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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2015, 07:48:17 PM »
Yep, this is an entirely new approach, fill the Leafs with one or two year mercenaries, whom we turn into new draft picks/prospects,  giving the young army a chance to come up and play when ready. After 58 years I think they are getting it right. Sorry no forgivness to Harold and all the rest to this point, fools squandring the Leafs legacy built by Conn Smythe all those years ago.
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2015, 08:43:34 AM »
Decent little article on how the organization views this camp:

http://theleafsnation.com/2015/7/8/how-has-an-organizational-shift-changed-the-leafs-prospect-camp

I definitely have noticed that it's been quite different than what some other teams are doing. We've seen a couple of clips of Leafs prospects on the ice but that hasn't seemed to be a large portion of the camp. Other teams have been running full-on scrimmages with their guys, I don't really see the point in trying to evaluate your prospects in that type of situation in the first couple of weeks of July.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2015, 08:48:14 AM »
Decent little article on how the organization views this camp:

http://theleafsnation.com/2015/7/8/how-has-an-organizational-shift-changed-the-leafs-prospect-camp

I definitely have noticed that it's been quite different than what some other teams are doing. We've seen a couple of clips of Leafs prospects on the ice but that hasn't seemed to be a large portion of the camp. Other teams have been running full-on scrimmages with their guys, I don't really see the point in trying to evaluate your prospects in that type of situation in the first couple of weeks of July.

The whole Pellerin interview is worth a read too.

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What was behind the break down in drills?

We kind of broke it into different positional situations. We focused on the breakout elements and then transitioned into more neutral zone with forwards and D in both areas and then we moved into the offensive zone. Always continuing the concepts of moving back into the defensive zone so we start that. You saw the way we transitioned in our zones, we did breakouts, Darryl worked into his neutral zone tactics, Mike Ellis and his staff worked down at some offensive zone stuff. That was kind of the concept and for the first three days we'll do that. It ties everything in to the Leaf language we're trying to build.

Why not as much scrimmaging this year?

It's July. I don't think it's fair to them. What we're trying to do right now is establish a criteria, an identity of what it's going to take to play for the Leafs and what the standard is. We've had some communication obviously with Mike Babcock with what he wants, what style of player he wants and we've designed this camp to bring out that performance in these players. That's why we're doing it. You won't see a lot of scrimmaging. The last day we will have some element. It builds up. You want to create the foundation for their game and then we kind of grow their game where they kind of put it all together. We have three days practice very similar to this. The fourth day we'll make two teams, we'll have more of a full practice where the D are with the forwards so they're putting all the things we've moved together in the first three days. Then the last day will be more game-like situations. There's a method to this madness right now.

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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 09:04:10 AM »
Decent little article on how the organization views this camp:

http://theleafsnation.com/2015/7/8/how-has-an-organizational-shift-changed-the-leafs-prospect-camp

I definitely have noticed that it's been quite different than what some other teams are doing. We've seen a couple of clips of Leafs prospects on the ice but that hasn't seemed to be a large portion of the camp. Other teams have been running full-on scrimmages with their guys, I don't really see the point in trying to evaluate your prospects in that type of situation in the first couple of weeks of July.

This stuck out to me from Siegel's article on it as just so dumb and unnecessary from past years:

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That means little to no scrimmaging, a staple from camps of old. The new Leafs regime just doesn't see the value. It was common in those old summer scrimmages for prospects to do whatever was necessary to stand out and impress, even get in a random and unnecessary fight.

http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-putting-new-spin-on-player-development-1.328243

Also a good Dubas quote right under that above paragraph: "We didn't bring them in here to play 4-on-4, play 5-on-5 against one another," Kyle Dubas, Leafs assistant general manager said. "We're trying to bring them in here and have them leave the camp having learned as much as possible."

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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 01:55:26 PM »
Dubas says Nylander will play C for Marlies next season.

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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2015, 01:59:24 PM »
He seems to want the puck a lot and Babs said OK earn it.  So lets hope him and Marner can earn it.  Looks like that decision will certainly keep him with the Marlies earning it next year.
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2015, 02:21:20 PM »
The Sabres have sold 10,000 tickets (at $10 a pop) to a scrimmage on Friday night:

http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/07/09/items-of-note-about-fridays-sabres-scrimmage/

I don't know if this shows how loyal/committed Sabres fans are to their team, or just how completely awful the city of Buffalo must be that a scrimmage between a bunch of no-name prospects + Jack Eichel is the most exciting thing going on in the city on a Friday night in July.

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2015, 02:57:45 PM »
The Sabres have sold 10,000 tickets (at $10 a pop) to a scrimmage on Friday night:

http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/07/09/items-of-note-about-fridays-sabres-scrimmage/

I don't know if this shows how loyal/committed Sabres fans are to their team, or just how completely awful the city of Buffalo must be that a scrimmage between a bunch of no-name prospects + Jack Eichel is the most exciting thing going on in the city on a Friday night in July.

It's similar in Edmonton, where McDavid scoring 5 goals in a prospect camp scrimmage is front page news.  I know he's going to be good, but stick handling through a bunch of pylons who are going out of their way not to make contact is hardly a show of his skill.  He does have slick hands, though.

It's great for both Buffalo and Edmonton, but yeah, I'm going with awful.
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2015, 02:58:43 PM »

Does anyone doubt that a similar thing here would be pretty well attended?
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2015, 03:10:06 PM »

Does anyone doubt that a similar thing here would be pretty well attended?

I mean I think that the Leafs have had these types of inter-squad prospect scrimmages before and I don't remember them being nearly that well attended. Would an Eichel/McDavid make that big of a difference? I guess that's tough to say, we would probably already have statues of them built. But to actually shell out money for tickets and parking to basically watch them practice? I dunno.

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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2015, 03:13:04 PM »
I mean I think that the Leafs have had these types of inter-squad prospect scrimmages before and I don't remember them being nearly that well attended.

Your memory might very well be better than mine but I don't remember anything where the Leafs offered entry into something like this for a fairly low cost.
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2015, 03:35:58 PM »

Why was Nylander wearing a Leafs jersey in April of 2014?
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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2015, 03:49:20 PM »

Why was Nylander wearing a Leafs jersey in April of 2014?

It looks like the photo was taken at the draft, so my guess is it was a mistake - should have been June 2014.

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Re: 2015 Development Camp
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2015, 03:51:29 PM »
Blame the stoners on reddit.

Anyway, it was posted to show how much these "small" picks can change/fill out in a year.

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2015, 03:51:29 PM »