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Pens interested in Winnik
« on: January 28, 2015, 07:55:22 AM »
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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger  ·  34 minutes ago
Penguins also made an offer last week on Winnik. Leafs aren't ready to move him...yet. #BelLetsTalk

I think Winnik could be a guy that a team seriously overpays for at the deadline, he's the type of player playoff teams love to load up with. No point in trading him now, wait for when teams get the most desperate.

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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 08:43:41 AM »
I don't imagine the offer was very good or he'd be gone IMO.

What's "overpaying" for Winnik? A 2nd? Beau Bennett?

I think he's a good player for a playoff team but I doubt we'll see much in return (whatever we end up with is ok by me though).

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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 10:12:27 AM »
A 2nd or 3rd, two signed Crosby Jerseys and one signed Malken thrown in along with a broken goalie stick of Fluery.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 10:26:57 AM »
A 2nd or 3rd, two signed Crosby Jerseys and one signed Malken thrown in along with a broken goalie stick of Fluery.

We already had stickgate, jerseygate and now we can have signgate.

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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 10:31:48 AM »
I think he's a good player for a playoff team but I doubt we'll see much in return (whatever we end up with is ok by me though).

You're probably right in that we won't see much for him when compared to the return for a topflight player or anything but I wouldn't write off the value in a 2nd rounder in a good draft or even the way that teams can sort of lose their mind at the deadline bidding on valuable role players. It's unlikely to happen again but Paul Gaustad did go for a first.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 10:37:49 AM »
You're probably right in that we won't see much for him when compared to the return for a topflight player or anything but I wouldn't write off the value in a 2nd rounder in a good draft or even the way that teams can sort of lose their mind at the deadline bidding on valuable role players. It's unlikely to happen again but Paul Gaustad did go for a first.

There are always a couple good players taken in the 2nd or 3rd round, so, while those picks tend to get moved without much concern, they definitely have value. The more picks you have, the greater your odds at finding the guys that actually reach their potential. On top of that, these picks are also currency that can be used to move up in the draft. It's not unusual to see a late 1st round pick moved for a pair of 2nd rounders.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 10:44:36 AM »
You're probably right in that we won't see much for him when compared to the return for a topflight player or anything but I wouldn't write off the value in a 2nd rounder in a good draft or even the way that teams can sort of lose their mind at the deadline bidding on valuable role players. It's unlikely to happen again but Paul Gaustad did go for a first.

There are always a couple good players taken in the 2nd or 3rd round, so, while those picks tend to get moved without much concern, they definitely have value. The more picks you have, the greater your odds at finding the guys that actually reach their potential. On top of that, these picks are also currency that can be used to move up in the draft. It's not unusual to see a late 1st round pick moved for a pair of 2nd rounders.

And I think to that end if something like that happens with Winnik it would sort of be the kind of deal that we haven't seen much from the Leafs over the last few years but that I think is crucial to a team trying to build it's prospect base. Sign a role player to a cheap deal, turn them into a draft pick...rinse and repeat as needed. Constantly being "in it" for a playoff spot means guys like a Jay McClement or Clarke MacArthur just leave with no benefit to the club.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2015, 11:37:31 AM »
Winnik's been great for us but if it's a 2nd or more, abso.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 12:33:52 PM »
Winnik's been great for us but if it's a 2nd or more, abso.

I would trade Winnik to a contender for a 2nd or 3rd pick and offer him a good contract this summer to see if he would re-sign with the Leafs again.  The more picks the better in my books.  I would replace him with one of the many Leaf borderline NHLers like Ashton or Kozun and see how they do.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 11:13:07 AM »
Have to agree, it would be great to go into  this draft with 2 1st rounders, 2 or 3 second rounders,etc. Time to get rid of some of the none core players including Captain P
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2015, 08:51:09 AM »
Winnik's been great for us but if it's a 2nd or more, abso.

I would trade Winnik to a contender for a 2nd or 3rd pick and offer him a good contract this summer to see if he would re-sign with the Leafs again.  The more picks the better in my books.  I would replace him with one of the many Leaf borderline NHLers like Ashton or Kozun and see how they do.

I think the "Ashton" boat has sailed. But for sure there are players in AHL that could play in that role.

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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 01:56:17 PM »
Winnik to the Kings for our 2nd round pick back would be nice, but probably too much to ask for.

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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2015, 02:17:27 PM »
Winnik to the Kings for our 2nd round pick back would be nice, but probably too much to ask for.

Maybe they could use David Booth?
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2015, 03:04:49 PM »
Winnik to the Kings for our 2nd round pick back would be nice, but probably too much to ask for.

They've already traded the Leafs pick to Columbus, who would have no interest in any of the Leafs' rentals.
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Re: Pens interested in Winnik
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 03:33:14 PM »
How did we lose our 2nd round pick? Bernier?

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