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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2014, 04:00:34 PM »
3. Key young players, Gardiner, Rielly, Kadri will take the next step. It would be nice to see Frattin join that group.

Frattin will be 27 in January, he's not really that young anymore.  Odds are there's not a ton of upside left for him to attain.

Given his limited pro experience I think it's reasonable to hope for some improvement, but yeah, his improvements at this point are more likely to be in the "more well rounded player" setting, rather than actually being that much better of a player.  His offensive zone awareness might get a tad better, his defensive play might improve, but he's not going to suddenly turn into a 40-50 point winger.

I think Frattin might surprise a lot of fans this season. Maybe not the 40-50 point variety of 'surprise', but perhaps the 20-35 range. Especially if he plays with Kadri for any significant amount of time.

I'd like to see a 2nd line of JVR-Kadri-Frattin develop some chemistry.
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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2014, 04:09:25 PM »
I think Frattin might surprise a lot of fans this season. Maybe not the 40-50 point variety of 'surprise', but perhaps the 20-35 range. Especially if he plays with Kadri for any significant amount of time.

I think that if he's playing 2nd line minutes with Kadri, and is only on pace to put up 20 points, the only surprise to me would be why he wouldn't be on waivers. 

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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2014, 04:20:14 PM »
I think that if he's playing 2nd line minutes with Kadri, and is only on pace to put up 20 points, the only surprise to me would be why he wouldn't be on waivers.

Almost regardless of how many points he puts up it's not a good sign for the team if he goes from being the 12th/13th forward on the Kings to being a top 6 player for the Leafs.
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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2014, 04:28:59 PM »
I'll be pretty surprised if Frattin plays over 30 games this season. He'll be in the pressbox for most of the year.

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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2014, 04:32:05 PM »
With the guys the leafs brought in I would be surprised if Frattin makes the team. This is IMO

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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2014, 04:34:36 PM »
They lost Legwand to free agency, Alfredsson was I think their top pointgetter last year?

Legwand was only there for 21 games and Alfredsson was only their top point getter by virtue of his being one of the only forwards to play close to a full season(and he might be back anyway).

It's weird to think about because of the remaining presence of guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Franzen but the Red Wings have a pretty young group of forwards that are pushing towards the forefront of the club. Tatar is 23, Nyquist is 25, Sheahan is 22, Jurco is 21.

So even if their older players break down I think that there's quite a bit of reason to think that more of that load could be carried by their younger players. Certainly enough of it to think that the loss of Legwand/Alfredsson doesn't really make the team worse.
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Re: Why the Leafs will be better...
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2014, 04:34:36 PM »