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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2014, 10:29:41 AM »

I traded picks and prospects, along with Lupul and the rights to Reims and Franson and ended up with Evander Kane and Giordano. I don't know how attainable Giordano is, but I think Kane is available. We could likely replace Giordano with another top 4 rearguard, but the premise is that we need one. Anywhooo.


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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2014, 10:06:07 AM »
Was listening to Brady and Walker this morning and there was a passing reference to Dan Boyle apparently having an interest to play in Toronto, recent trade to NYI notwithstanding.  Now I don't put any stock into this, but I was wondering: would this make sense on a short term deal?  If Phaneuf should be traded, this could provide some short-term relief.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2014, 11:25:42 AM »
Was listening to Brady and Walker this morning and there was a passing reference to Dan Boyle apparently having an interest to play in Toronto, recent trade to NYI notwithstanding.  Now I don't put any stock into this, but I was wondering: would this make sense on a short term deal?  If Phaneuf should be traded, this could provide some short-term relief.

Probably from Dreger, he reported yesterday that the Leafs were high on Dan Boyle's list.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2014, 11:55:01 AM »
Was listening to Brady and Walker this morning and there was a passing reference to Dan Boyle apparently having an interest to play in Toronto, recent trade to NYI notwithstanding.  Now I don't put any stock into this, but I was wondering: would this make sense on a short term deal?  If Phaneuf should be traded, this could provide some short-term relief.

Dan Boyle refuses to sign with Isles because he wants to play for a contender. Leafs high on his list.
Hrmmm.


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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2014, 12:15:08 PM »
Was listening to Brady and Walker this morning and there was a passing reference to Dan Boyle apparently having an interest to play in Toronto, recent trade to NYI notwithstanding.  Now I don't put any stock into this, but I was wondering: would this make sense on a short term deal?  If Phaneuf should be traded, this could provide some short-term relief.

Boyle will be 38 next season and his production has already started slipping. He's probably shouldn't be a 1st pairing guy anymore, and he's definitely not a #1 guy. I'm not sure he would provide short-term relief for the Leafs moving Phaneuf, because I'm not confident he can continue to play that much.
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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2014, 12:21:28 PM »
Was listening to Brady and Walker this morning and there was a passing reference to Dan Boyle apparently having an interest to play in Toronto, recent trade to NYI notwithstanding.  Now I don't put any stock into this, but I was wondering: would this make sense on a short term deal?  If Phaneuf should be traded, this could provide some short-term relief.

Boyle will be 38 next season and his production has already started slipping. He's probably shouldn't be a 1st pairing guy anymore, and he's definitely not a #1 guy. I'm not sure he would provide short-term relief for the Leafs moving Phaneuf, because I'm not confident he can continue to play that much.

My guess is he takes a 1 year deal from a contender and expects 2-3 years from a lesser quality team.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2014, 12:23:22 PM »
He did just lead a pretty successful Sharks team in ice time so he can still pretty clearly contribute at a high level. The problem is he did it without killing penalties which probably means he wasn't getting the toughest defensive assignments either. The Leafs are pretty well situated with offensive defensmen so it probably doesn't really make up for Phaneuf's place in the line-up.

The cap figure, really, would be everything. He'd be an upgrade on Franson, I think we can agree, but if he wants 6+ million a year then there's really no point.
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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2014, 12:33:27 PM »
Probably from Dreger, he reported yesterday that the Leafs were high on Dan Boyle's list.

Is his list entitled 'Teams desperately looking for leadership and intangibles who might overpay for me'?

Boyle's a fine player, but I'm just not sure he's the right fit for this team. Gardiner and Rielly need bigger roles on the powerplay, not smaller ones and the addition of Boyle would probably keep them on the 2nd unit. Also, like Nik said he doesn't really kill penalties and that's a role we're going to need to fill. Signing someone like Stralman or Fayne would make a lot more sense.

Now, if we somehow moved Phaneuf and had the cap space to sign Boyle ($5mil would be the highest I think I would go) then maybe it could work. We'd still need enough room to bring in say a Stralman, but that would give us:

Gardiner-Boyle
Gunnarsson-Stralman
Rielly-Gleason/Holzer/MacWilliam/Ranger

Basically if we could get good value for Phaneuf then Boyle would be a smart replacement. We'd still need one of Boyle/Gardiner/Rielly to step into a PK role though.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2014, 12:45:47 PM »
Also he doesn't really kill penalties and that's a role we're going to need to fill.

Well it should be noted this past season seems to be the only one in his career (at least in recent memory) that he didn't average at least 1:00 of PK time per game.  I'm sure he could still do it, I don't know the reasoning for him not this past season.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2014, 12:54:46 PM »
We are not a Dan Boyle away from a Cup run. Why oh why? Let him go somewhere else and lets give a kid a shot

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2014, 12:58:08 PM »
We are not a Dan Boyle away from a Cup run. Why oh why? Let him go somewhere else and lets give a kid a shot

But would he take a job from a kid or would he take a job from a vet who isn't delivering?

I think this defense BADLY needs a calm, experienced PROVEN veteran who can step in and help teach and be an example.  We really have not had that player in a long time.

What the kids learn from him now can become very valuable when the team is in cup run state.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2014, 01:13:24 PM »
We are not a Dan Boyle away from a Cup run. Why oh why? Let him go somewhere else and lets give a kid a shot

But would he take a job from a kid or would he take a job from a vet who isn't delivering?

I think this defense BADLY needs a calm, experienced PROVEN veteran who can step in and help teach and be an example.  We really have not had that player in a long time.

What the kids learn from him now can become very valuable when the team is in cup run state.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2014, 01:25:52 PM »
We are not a Dan Boyle away from a Cup run. Why oh why? Let him go somewhere else and lets give a kid a shot

But would he take a job from a kid or would he take a job from a vet who isn't delivering?

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2014, 01:38:17 PM »
But would he take a job from a kid or would he take a job from a vet who isn't delivering?

Considering what we've seen from this management and coaching group recently, odds are he's take the spot away from a kid.
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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2014, 01:45:15 PM »
But would he take a job from a kid or would he take a job from a vet who isn't delivering?

Considering what we've seen from this management and coaching group recently, odds are he's take the spot away from a kid.

Morgan Rielly would disagree with you on that.

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Re: Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2014, 01:45:15 PM »