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Re: Leafs Prospect Camp
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2013, 11:10:32 PM »
The 05-07 drafts were pretty good too.

05: Rask, Stralman
06: Tlusty, Kulemin, Reimer, Holzer, Stalberg, Komarov
07: Frattin, Gunnarsson

Keep in mind, within those 3 drafts they had 3 picks in the first 2 rounds, combined.

Also interesting to note that 8/10 of the picks were Euros.

Barry Trapp ran those drafts. And as Nik said, the 2001/2002 drafts were both very good as well and that was when Mike Penny was running things. I preferred both of those gentlemen's work to Morrison's.

edit: Although again, in defence of Morrison, some of his work can't be judged yet.

Morrison took over as Director of Scouting in 06 prior to the draft, didn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm pretty sure though... as I remember an interview with Trapp where he said that had he been in charge they would have taken Chris Stewart instead of Tlusty.

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2013, 11:28:35 PM »
Morrison took over as Director of Scouting in 06 prior to the draft, didn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, you're right. Trapp was fired about a month before the 2006 draft and Morrison was promoted to his position a day before it. I thought Trapp was around for longer.

With those drafts in his resume I'll concede Morrison's record looks better than Trapps. My biggest problem with Morrison is that he doesn't seem to want to take any chances on potential highly skilled players, top-10 picks like Rielly and Kadri aside. That could also be a Burke/Nonis trait though.

I still agree with Nik in that the best Leafs drafts were the Quinn/Penny years.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2013, 03:29:51 PM »
Morrison took over as Director of Scouting in 06 prior to the draft, didn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, you're right. Trapp was fired about a month before the 2006 draft and Morrison was promoted to his position a day before it. I thought Trapp was around for longer.

With those drafts in his resume I'll concede Morrison's record looks better than Trapps. My biggest problem with Morrison is that he doesn't seem to want to take any chances on potential highly skilled players, top-10 picks like Rielly and Kadri aside. That could also be a Burke/Nonis trait though.

I still agree with Nik in that the best Leafs drafts were the Quinn/Penny years.

That seems to be the one damning thing about the Leafs' track record at the draft, that their success rate is quite high but glaringly lacks star power.

The Kadri/Rielly picks were definitely a shift in the right direction though.

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Re: Leafs Prospect Camp
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2013, 04:37:33 PM »
I'm pretty sure though... as I remember an interview with Trapp where he said that had he been in charge they would have taken Chris Stewart instead of Tlusty.

I like Trapp even more now....
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2013, 06:14:39 PM »
I'm pretty sure though... as I remember an interview with Trapp where he said that had he been in charge they would have taken Chris Stewart instead of Tlusty.

I like Trapp even more now....

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Re: Leafs Prospect Camp
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2013, 06:56:32 PM »
Morrison took over as Director of Scouting in 06 prior to the draft, didn't he? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, you're right. Trapp was fired about a month before the 2006 draft and Morrison was promoted to his position a day before it. I thought Trapp was around for longer.

With those drafts in his resume I'll concede Morrison's record looks better than Trapps. My biggest problem with Morrison is that he doesn't seem to want to take any chances on potential highly skilled players, top-10 picks like Rielly and Kadri aside. That could also be a Burke/Nonis trait though.

I still agree with Nik in that the best Leafs drafts were the Quinn/Penny years.

To some extent yes, but the jury is still out on players like Leivo and Toninato.
He hasn't had alot of picks to work with every draft so he might want to play it safe .


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Re: Leafs Prospect Camp
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2013, 07:51:10 PM »
With those drafts in his resume I'll concede Morrison's record looks better than Trapps. My biggest problem with Morrison is that he doesn't seem to want to take any chances on potential highly skilled players, top-10 picks like Rielly and Kadri aside. That could also be a Burke/Nonis trait though.

A lot of it is because of the GM. GMs obviously decide on the direction of the organization and such, but, they also tend to have final say when it comes to 1st round picks. Guys like Biggs and Percy were taken because Burke decided they were the guys he wanted. Ditto for Gauthier and Nonis. From there on in, it's generally the head of scouting's call, but, at the same time, from there on in, there are less and less highly skilled players there to take a chance on.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2013, 08:40:30 PM »
I'm pretty sure though... as I remember an interview with Trapp where he said that had he been in charge they would have taken Chris Stewart instead of Tlusty.

I like Trapp even more now....

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2013, 08:40:30 PM »