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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 12:26:19 PM »
According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

I wonder what happens next year if Scrivens and Reimer falter this season and a new number one goalie is brought in. I guess a trade is the only option in that scenario?

Scrivens would still be able to play in the AHL during the second year of his contact, it would just cost the Leafs his full salary. He might also take up playing time from another goalie though, especially since Sparks would be eligible to play in the AHL that season.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2012, 01:09:16 PM »
I have no problems with this, but is it bad that my initial thought was, "Yup, we are going to enter this season with no upgrade in goal."  :-X
Yes you are right about no upgrade as far as a new goalie...but,I like to think of both Reims and Scrivens as maturing player upgrades.Hopefully one of these guys can be a solid no.1.

We all hope so I suspect... sadly, its all we have right now.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2012, 01:14:04 PM »
According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2012, 01:31:13 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2012, 01:52:50 PM »
According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

I wonder what happens next year if Scrivens and Reimer falter this season and a new number one goalie is brought in. I guess a trade is the only option in that scenario?

Scrivens would still be able to play in the AHL during the second year of his contact, it would just cost the Leafs his full salary. He might also take up playing time from another goalie though, especially since Sparks would be eligible to play in the AHL that season.

Ok. Well this deal works well in either scenario then. I like it.
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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2012, 02:10:39 PM »
Real_ESPNLeBrun: Scrivens deal with Leafs: 2012-13 $600,000 2013-14 $625,000  
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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 03:44:15 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html
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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 04:30:31 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html

Cool. Thanks.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 05:10:40 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html

Cool. Thanks.

Here's a few more goalies: Riku Helenius, Thomas Greiss, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers,  and Anton Khudobin. All are in similar positions that Scrivens is in.

And just looking at CapGeeks most recent 50 contracts, of the five players who were 26 years old or under and signed 2-year contracts, 5 of them had the same split, the 6th had a two-way deal in both years.

This could be because of the same waiver-related reasons that was brought up early though, but this type of split is fairly common for players who are on the cusp of making the NHL and want the extra security of a second year.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2012, 05:15:50 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html

Cool. Thanks.

Here's a few more goalies: Riku Helenius, Thomas Greiss, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers,  and Anton Khudobin. All are in similar positions that Scrivens is in.

And just looking at CapGeeks most recent 50 contracts, of the five players who were 26 years old or under and signed 2-year contracts, 5 of them had the same split, the 6th had a two-way deal in both years.

This could be because of the same waiver-related reasons that was brought up early though, but this type of split is fairly common for players who are on the cusp of making the NHL and want the extra security of a second year.

Interesting and most appreciated. I had no idea this was as common as it was.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 10:29:20 PM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html

Cool. Thanks.

Here's a few more goalies: Riku Helenius, Thomas Greiss, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers,  and Anton Khudobin. All are in similar positions that Scrivens is in.

And just looking at CapGeeks most recent 50 contracts, of the five players who were 26 years old or under and signed 2-year contracts, 5 of them had the same split, the 6th had a two-way deal in both years.

This could be because of the same waiver-related reasons that was brought up early though, but this type of split is fairly common for players who are on the cusp of making the NHL and want the extra security of a second year.

Interesting and most appreciated. I had no idea this was as common as it was.

Neither did I.  Added thanks.

The deal is OK.  Whether Burke will be around for Year Two is the real question.  No upgrade in goal means another playoff-free year, I fear.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 10:34:16 PM »
Scriven to fly. Scriven the dog a bone. Scriven it up.

Good deal, not much to complain about with it that I can see.  Seems fair.
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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2012, 11:11:17 PM »
Scriven to fly. Scriven the dog a bone. Scriven it up.

Good deal, not much to complain about with it that I can see.  Seems fair.

Yeah he deserved a chance and the Monster had too many chances already; so it makes sense.
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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 08:49:35 AM »
What does Scrivens' contract pay him at the AHL level? I read that he made $85,000 last season but his performance should have earned him a raise.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 10:08:01 AM »
Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

You know, there was a recent signing like this though the specifics escape me.  But being an impetuous fellow, I'm going to say that it was another goalie, Vancouver's Eddie Lack.  Let me check this but we'll see if my record of retaining useless information (while forgetting the things I shouldn't) holds steady.

*EDIT: nailed it

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Goalie+Eddie+Lack+signed+year+deal/7150631/story.html

Cool. Thanks.

Here's a few more goalies: Riku Helenius, Thomas Greiss, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers,  and Anton Khudobin. All are in similar positions that Scrivens is in.
And just looking at CapGeeks most recent 50 contracts, of the five players who were 26 years old or under and signed 2-year contracts, 5 of them had the same split, the 6th had a two-way deal in both years.

This could be because of the same waiver-related reasons that was brought up early though, but this type of split is fairly common for players who are on the cusp of making the NHL and want the extra security of a second year.

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Re: Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 10:08:01 AM »