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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Last post by Nik the Trik on Today at 07:15:30 PM »
Most of the trades you are referencing might be trade deadline deals for guys with little term left though.  Not often do really high-end defensemen get traded for futures in the off-season.  The Dougie Hamilton trade is probably the only recent example you could pull out.

High-end defensemen don't get traded much full-stop. So I'm not saying it's necessarily an inevitable but even if we downgrade the requirements I think the point still stands. If a high value defenseman becomes available and a team is looking for futures, it's better to be asset-rich.
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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: 2018 Toronto Blue Jays General Season Thread
« Last post by Darryl on Today at 07:02:43 PM »
Why not do both? Trade Happ now and talk to him about re-signing in the off-season. Win win.
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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« Last post by Nik the Trik on Today at 07:01:20 PM »
We'll disagree on a lot of politics, but I'm a business guy, and Ontario is in $350 billion worth of debt that gets serviced with your tax dollars.

So, yeah, there's going to be some cuts to programs that people will be upset about.  As long as they can get that deficit to $0, or ideally a surplus, quit adding to the mountain, and start to chip away it at, I'm expecting some things to come down the pipe that aren't going to be popular with many, including me.

Again, the money here came from the cap and trade program. If Ford keeps the cap and trade program and the revenues raised, that's one thing but he's already said he won't.

This is taking a relatively small amount of money raised from big businesses, invested into the green energy economy via small businesses and homeowners, that will now just go back to the big businesses who pay into cap and trade. It's not staying in the public coffers.
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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« Last post by Darryl on Today at 07:00:35 PM »
Flying cars in every drive way and leaded gas brought back to fuel them!
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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« Last post by Nik the Trik on Today at 06:57:12 PM »
Let me state clearly that I'm not against green initiatives, government subsidies for business, or rebates for consumers. Subsidies can be great for the economy.

But let me play devil's advocate.

1. It costs money that the government doesn't have.

They did have the money. The money for this program came from the provincial cap and trade program, something Ford has already promised to abolish. This isn't money that will just be re-invested elsewhere.

2. Homeowners and business owners generally are not the ones struggling financially compared to non-homeowners/business owners. Money could be used better elsewhere.

Again, this money will no longer be collected when cap and trade is scrapped. This is money going to homeowners and small businesses that will instead stay in the money of companies that pay into cap and trade, not be used for healthcare or to pay down the debt.

Companies that exceed emissions standards aren't the ones hurting in this economy either and that's the only ones who'll ultimately benefit here.

3. You could argue lower hydro bills could/should be incentive enough.

4. It was good for the environment. Not sure how much of a motivator this was for people. I think, generally, cost savings supersedes saving the planet. It's great when they coincide.

You might even think these two were connected.
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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« Last post by nutman on Today at 05:46:48 PM »
I knew when Lou joined the NYI the chances of JT coming went down, but now that Trotts has been hired, the chances are now gone IMO.  I guess we look elsewhere for our much needed center help.
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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Targets
« Last post by Highlander on Today at 05:25:22 PM »
Oh hey, the draft starts tomorrow.
I had a draft today, Sleeman's Honey Brown
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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« Last post by Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on Today at 03:23:27 PM »
And I guess Gryba can maybe play somewhere else, rather than Bakersfield.

Please check all that apply:

RH: __
D: __
Passing resemblance in that pic to pepperpot Mike Brown: __
Couldn't be that much worse than alternative who bounced back and forth between lineup and pressbox: __
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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« Last post by Coco-puffs on Today at 03:19:17 PM »
You make very good points about opportunity here:  Brown played with Nylander a fair amount the year he put up lots of points in the AHL- but, Nylander only played half of that season so its not like he was riding shotgun all year with him.  He still did very well that season while away from Nylander.
Kapanen also played 1st line AHL minutes, where Timashov and Bracco have been farther down the depth chart in the AHL so far- and that's probably deserved since they aren't as good as those other guys yet.

Next year will be very curious on the Marlies side. All the higher end razzle dazzle are Leafs now (Nylander, Brown, Dermott, Kapanen, Johnsson), so it'll be down to Bracco, Timashov, Brooks, Grundstrom, Liljegren, and Engvall + new adds (probably Dzierkals) to see if we can still be an upper tier team. One of the things that Lou and Babcock preached that Dubas took to heart was putting prospects through competitive situations (e.g. Calder Cup playoffs) rather than solely focusing on skills development.

It's a bit too bad that Korshkov isn't coming over this season (more money in the KHL. There'll be a bump of Russians the year after though with Korshkov, Chebykin, and maybe Bobylev and Kara making the jump to the Marlies.

This was the lineup for Game 7 of the Calder Cup:

Johnsson - Aaltonen - Grundstrom
Timashov - Mueller - Smith
Engvall - Gauthier - Greening
Marchment - Brooks - Moore

Marincin - Holl
Rosen - LoVerde
Nielsen - Liljegren

Sparks

So lets assume Johnsson, Sparks, and Dermott are up with the Leafs.  Ben Smith has already signed to play in Europe.

Almost everyone else is under team control unless the Leafs don't want to sign said player to a NHL contract.  (ie AHL Contract only requires renouncing rights and hoping we don't lose them).  This includes:  Aaltonen, Gauthier, Marincin, Holl

Considering our depth at C in the organization, I highly doubt Aaltonen and Gauthier don't get NHL contracts.  Holl will also get one.  Marincin should also garner a NHL contract, although I'd doubt he passes through waivers.  Another NHL team should take a flyer on him- but lets say he passes through.
We've also added Lindholm and Ohzighanov to the mix. 

As of right now, there are only a few NHL jobs up for grabs (2-3 forwards, 1-2 depth defensman) so a lot of the names mentioned will be back with the Marlies.

I doubt they won't be a upper tier team.  Not saying they will repeat as champs, but I don't doubt they'll be one of the better teams in the AHL again.

My Projected Leafs with a potato GM:
Johnsson - Matthews - Kapanen
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
Hyman - Nylander - Brown
(Trevor) Moore - Lindholm - Leivo
Martin

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Carrick  (although I'd like to swap Dermott and Hainsey here)
Rosen - Ohziganov

Fredex
Sparks

Marlies
Timashov - Aaltonen - Grundstrom
Engvall - Gauthier - Greening
Marchment - Mueller - Bracco
Clune - Brooks - Dzerkals
Depth: ( http://www.thetelegram.com/sports/potential-newfoundland-growlers-marlies-sign-five-to-ahl-contracts-219620/ )

Marincin - Holl
Borgman - Liljegren
Neilsen - LoVerde

Pickard
Kaskisuo
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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« Last post by Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on Today at 03:19:01 PM »
Trotz+Lou vs. Babs+Doogie: Tavares Cage Match is full-bore on.  There will be casualties.
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