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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: Yesterday at 10:44:39 PM »

Would that I could call down fire, I have a list.


NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Yesterday at 10:23:11 AM »
San Jose taking themselves out of Tavares contention for good?

This didn't last long. Sharks have cleared a lot of cap room and picked up some draft capital.

NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Yesterday at 10:20:12 AM »

Florida Panthers President of Hockey Operations & General Manager Dale Tallon announced today that the Panthers have acquired forward Mike Hoffman and a 2018 seventh round pick from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Florida's 2019 second round pick, 2018 fourth round pick and 2018 5th round pick.


Doug Wilson is a magician.

NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Yesterday at 10:07:36 AM »
San Jose taking themselves out of Tavares contention for good?

That's what I was thinking, but really it's only ~$1m in cap difference, right?

Eh, more the what environment do I want to raise a family in sort of thing.

Personally, I think the issue of high skilled picks that flame out because they don't score enough for top-6 but aren't 'tough' enough for bottom-6 is going to be less of a factor on a team that does not prescribe to the top-bottom 6 formula, which is me getting back up on my don't-build-4th-lines-around-Matt-Martin-types soapbox.

The Marlies are the template of what Dubas wants.
1st line: high end speed/scoring
2nd line: secondary scoring
3rd line: matchup line, but with scoring touch
4th line: lower lineup overmatch scoring (this one is the main difference between the Marlies and the Leafs prior to the scratching of Martin)

Obviously depth in the NHL relative to the rest of the league will be more difficult to come by due to the salary cap and the higher ceiling of play.

NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Yesterday at 09:52:09 AM »
San Jose taking themselves out of Tavares contention for good?

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: Yesterday at 09:46:55 AM »

I didn't know Tavares played with a young Sean William Scott.

Isn't the general idea that picking where the Leafs are you're either picking between a high ceiling or a relative safe floor? If a player has both it's unlikely they're going to be around at #25.

I think he was speaking in general terms with regards to Dubas' philosophy, but yes, the late first round pick (which is where we expect to be picking for the duration of Dubas' contract) is the arena in which this becomes most apparent.

I have some idea of the attributes that the new Leafs GM prizes in players [...] Iím obviously not privy to the actual information, but I think I have a pretty good idea where the teamís priorities lie.

Per the article, Dubas prefers a history of production from forwards and will not be drafting specifically for players that are projected for depth roles (a la Gauthier). The illustration used was Kasperi Kapanen, who was a 20s pick that Dubas targeted in the Kessel trade: he's projected to be a scoring top-6 winger, but if he falls short, the development team has already shifted his floor up into NHL territory by building up a penalty killing prowess. In other words, a floor can be built up, but a talent ceiling can't (or is much more difficult) to push higher.

The corollary is that depth players can always be picked up outside the draft (waivers, trade-filler, UFA signings, etc.).


Justin Bourne offers some perspective on Dubas' draft and team building philosophies. The long and short of it is that Dubas will favour players that are high ceilinged, so in the event of failure, you'd still have a useful player, i.e. players most of us here would be very interested in, and probably ones that Don Cherry would ermahgerd about.

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: June 18, 2018, 09:34:26 PM »

NHL Transactions / Re: Domi to MTL for Galchenyuk
« on: June 18, 2018, 04:25:47 PM »
So they addressed a need at Centre by trading a centre for an inferior winger? Does not compute.

It does if you're including the value of intangibles!

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« on: June 18, 2018, 04:21:47 PM »
Possibly but the better D man is Rosen who also plays the left side. Borgman is a righty so that's to his advantage. We'll see in the fall..

Borgman is a lefty.

And all three of Marincin, Rosen, and Borgman have experience on the right side.

NHL Transactions / Re: Domi to MTL for Galchenyuk
« on: June 18, 2018, 03:06:48 PM »
Bergevin's remarks about the trade are also getting resoundingly roasted.

When Keefe was first hired I kind of pooh-pooh'd that Dubas would hire an old hand rather than cast a wider net. I'm very glad to have been super wrong. These two work so well together and it was fantastic to see it culminate into a trophy hand-off and, as Justin Bourne so eloquently put it, a WWE-style celebration for Dubas.

I don't know all the history with Keefe, but I remember that Dubas took a chance on him when he hired him as coach of the Soo.  Some past affiliation with the scum David Frost that I'm not quite sure about, and I believe teams were reluctant to give Keefe a chance.  Great to see that Dubas was able to see the potential in him and bring that to fruition.

My main contention at the time had little to nothing to do with the toxic Frost situation and more to do with let's get the best that MLSE's nigh-infinite resources can afford us.

Now, it's very clear how important the relationship between the coach and GM is in pushing a team to its full potential; Keefe is clearly a believer in Dubas' vision, but their relationship appears to be one in which each person can challenge the other and both grow as a result. When Keefe came on to coach the Greyhounds, their Corsi jumped from 48-ish% to 59-ish% (I'm just going by memory here). He buys into using deeper looks at the numbers, and he knows how to coach those insights into how his teams play.

You can tell from the player comments that the Marlies would go through any wall for Dubas.

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