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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Today at 02:50:57 PM »
Calgary is apparently putting Adam Fox into play, and they are lacking in picks and scoring wingers. Brown + Bracco?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Today at 01:10:41 PM »
I'd do Z for the 10th.

He's a married man. Have you no propriety?!

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Targets
« on: Today at 08:58:05 AM »
There's talk that Adam Boqvist might fall. A right-shot, high-end skill defenceman from Sweden (did he have mono too?). If he's still kicking around in the 15-20 slot I'd be calling teams there.

This is pretty on brand for the captain of the Draft Sam Girard (and Erik Brannstrom) campaign.

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https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/06/22/kyle-dubas-on-drafting-25th-in-the-2018-nhl-draft-its-a-lively-and-fluid-situation-its-tough-to-predict-right-now/

Every time Dubas talks about the Leafs organization getting a good look at the Marlies and gaining new appreciation, we know who he's talking about right?

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How about Marincin? Is he going to be back with the organization?

Dubas: We are in discussion with Martyís people to see where he stands or not. He proved in the playoffs that he is a very, very valuable member of any organization. I know heís had a turbulent ride here, and it was great to see him start to earn his confidence this year with the Marlies Ė start to skate, make more plays, very, very solid defensively and excellent on the penalty kill, as he always has been. But I think our whole organization was impressed with how Martyís game grew. Heís not a young prospect by any means Ė heís a 92 born Ė but we are happy with where Marty is and I think heíd be a valuable member for us going forward.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Targets
« on: Today at 08:42:16 AM »
'Leafs trade up and get their coveted Defenseman'

The other two are great. Which defenseman outside of Dahlin would satisfy this particular headline? I don't see any of them playing in the NHL immediately.

Now if this were something like Edmonton trades their 10th OA pick to Toronto for Nikita Zaitsev (Bob: It's 1 for 1), and we promptly flip a package of that pick + Connor Brown + Andrew Nielsen for Colton Parayko, then they'll have (even more of) my attention.

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https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/06/22/kyle-dubas-on-drafting-25th-in-the-2018-nhl-draft-its-a-lively-and-fluid-situation-its-tough-to-predict-right-now/

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Miro Aaltonen is heading back to Europe. Thatís a tough loss, obviously, and tough to compete, maybe. Does this put an extra incentive for Frederik Gauthier or even drafting a center moving forward?

Dubas: If we draft a center tomorrow, we canít count on him, certainly. If anything, it creates some incentive for our internal people. Itís another depth spot that opens up for us, and we had kind of counted on Miro challenging for a spot on the Maple Leafs next year for sure. He was great for the Marlies. We appreciate his efforts. I donít begrudge his decision whatsoever. I think it makes our situation more lucrative for both centers and wingers in free agency that are maybe looking at our situation, so that will help us as we come into July 1st. That will increase our focus on that on July 1st, as well.

Was that a hockey decision or a personal decision for him to go back?

Dubas: What we were told by Miro and his people is that he wanted to be featured on the number-one scoring line in the KHL, and I donít begrudge that. That was his decision that was relayed to us via his agent and himself. We appreciate his efforts and what he did with the Marlies, and wish him well.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 02:49:11 PM »

I'm trying to figure out why Chiarelli would add a little nickel to his Salary Cap for the next two seasons.


So... he takes a cap hit to shave off some real dollars paid out.
And I guess Gryba can maybe play somewhere else, rather than Bakersfield.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 02:19:57 PM »

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Targets
« on: Yesterday at 01:03:29 PM »
Oh hey, the draft starts tomorrow.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: Yesterday at 12:54:48 PM »
You make very good points about opportunity here:  Brown played with Nylander a fair amount the year he put up lots of points in the AHL- but, Nylander only played half of that season so its not like he was riding shotgun all year with him.  He still did very well that season while away from Nylander.
Kapanen also played 1st line AHL minutes, where Timashov and Bracco have been farther down the depth chart in the AHL so far- and that's probably deserved since they aren't as good as those other guys yet.

Next year will be very curious on the Marlies side. All the higher end razzle dazzle are Leafs now (Nylander, Brown, Dermott, Kapanen, Johnsson), so it'll be down to Bracco, Timashov, Brooks, Grundstrom, Liljegren, and Engvall + new adds (probably Dzierkals) to see if we can still be an upper tier team. One of the things that Lou and Babcock preached that Dubas took to heart was putting prospects through competitive situations (e.g. Calder Cup playoffs) rather than solely focusing on skills development.

It's a bit too bad that Korshkov isn't coming over this season (more money in the KHL. There'll be a bump of Russians the year after though with Korshkov, Chebykin, and maybe Bobylev and Kara making the jump to the Marlies.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« on: Yesterday at 10:51:55 AM »
Well, that just seems dumb. I always thought it was a really good program/initiative.

Try to look at it from the Conservative perspective:

1. It didn't cost much
2. The money it did cost went to homeowners and small businesses
3. It encouraged investment in homes and lowered hydro bills
4. It was good for the environment

Clearly, something had to be done.


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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: Yesterday at 10:47:37 AM »
I could also point out that Brown has VERY high hockey-IQ and a better shot.  He also put up 61 points in the AHL at a much younger age.  Moore hasn't eclipsed 33.  I think Moore's speed will give him a good shot at being on the 4th line and PK duty, but that is still not near Brown's level.

That's a solid point. I like Brown (smart, generally in the right place at the right time), but I don't see him being more than a defensive utility option because of his lack of any other stand out capability. His offense is solely dependent on his linemates' ability to get the puck to him, and he is otherwise a straight-line player. His big AHL season was riding shotgun to William Nylander (who was artificially suppressed into the AHL), wasn't it? Happy to have him prove me wrong though.

Timashov is only a few months younger than Kapanen and hasn't put up anywhere near Kapanen's level of production.  And Kapanen probably tops out as a 2nd liner.  Bracco is a full year younger, so he still has time to develop, and has actually put up better numbers than Timashov (ppg).  I put the chances of Timashov playing on a 2nd line somewhere very low- Bracco is more likely but at least one more year away from sniffing the NHL.  Hard for me to put them ahead of Brown (or even in the same tier really).

I have Kapanen at least one tier up on Timashov and Bracco so I'm not particularly surprised by the difference there. At this tier of prospect, I think production is very much a function of opportunity. I'm excited to see how the two of them do outside of the shadows of Kapanen and Johnsson, as they become the go-to offense options probably with Grundstrom and Engvall.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: Yesterday at 09:58:36 AM »
Not a bad list.  Brown is way too low for a guy who can conceivably score 20 goals again, but yeah he's probably maxed out at being the third liner he is now.  Trevor Moore is only 1 year younger and still hasn't made the NHL- do you expect him to be better than a third-liner? 

I can understand having Timashov and Bracco ahead of him because they have higher ceilings (ie, 2nd line)- but I don't think their chances of hitting those ceilings are very high.  I personally wouldn't put them ahead of Brown if, as you state, you also include associated probability- but maybe your probability is a bit rosier than mine.

My list is coming in my next post so you can roast me right back.

Fair points. I have Moore above Brown because have you seen Moore skate? Granted it's only been against AHL so far, but he's essentially left shot Brown with better puckhandling and much better wheels.

I'm pretty high on both Bracco and Timashov. They're perimeter playmakers (which renders their smaller size less of a factor) and can both really hold the puck in traffic and have outstanding on-ice vision, which I put a good chunk of stock in.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: Yesterday at 09:34:33 AM »
So in the interest of drawing fire from Frank's decision-making process (Leivo and Aaltonen are both 25 now), I will also post my list and enjoy the subsequent roast. I'm more of a projected ceiling (and associated probability), rather than who has played NHL minutes type of ranker. I also just plopped this out without looking at anything other than the eligibility list.

1. Matthews
2. Nylander
3. Marner
4. Rielly
5. Liljegren
6. Kapanen
7. Dermott
8. Johnsson
9. Grundstrom
10. Borgman
11. Carrick
12. Timashov
13. Bracco
14. Rosen
15. Moore
16. Brown
17. Korshkov
18. Engvall
19. Sparks
20. Brooks
21. Dzierkals
22. Marchment
23. Rasanen
24. Nielsen
25. Woll

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: Yesterday at 07:20:19 AM »

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