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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner
« on: Yesterday at 11:22:22 PM »
Yeah, I'm advocate of keeping Marner.  I think that having game breakers like him and Nylander help the Leafs win games.  As we saw last night, having that element gives them an edge.  Werenski scored tonight, so I just started looking at his stats.  I found it interesting that the too have played the exact same number of games.  Werenski is 16 points behind Marner for career points at this time.  I can't help but wonder thought what the Leafs would look like with someone like Werenski on the back end.

A player like Marner helps drive a whole line. We saw last year how good the team could be when 3 full threats could be rolled out. And we saw last year and early this year how much of a factor Marner was to his line's success. I value having multiple scoring lines more than another offensive LD.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner
« on: Yesterday at 09:13:55 PM »
Quick question.  Would anybody here be upset if the Leafs traded Mitch Marner for Zach Werenski straight up?

Second quick questions.  In hindsight, should the Leafs have drafted Zach Werenski instead of Mitch Marner?

If Arizona picked Marner, the Leafs were ready to trade down and pick up either Provorov or Werenski +. Marner can be a game breaker though, so I’d think about a one-for-one, but only if Bracco/Johnsson hit 85+% of Marner (which they aren’t likely to).

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leivo signs 1-year extension
« on: Yesterday at 09:10:28 PM »
Or Ottawa really wants to commit seppuku and goes, hey Lou, Phaneuf said Bozak and JvR and Komarov are really good, so you guys want Karlsson for him?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leivo signs 1-year extension
« on: Yesterday at 04:30:05 PM »
I'm with Carlton on his read.

No guarantees with UFA (see the ordeals Winnik and Franson went through as proven useful players). Heck, PA Parenteau, who scored over 10 goals last season, is now toiling in the KHL. Sure, these are older examples, but they're all better than Leivo (albeit in different ways).

This gives Leivo at least another year of peace of mind (with a 33% raise for basically sitting quietly!), as even he can see the UFA list in the forward ranks is quite large (a la Aaltonen's reason). I can see the Leafs looking favourably on Leivo for taking 2 years for the team's benefit before his own and rewarding him accordingly with opportunities to perform.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leivo signs 1-year extension
« on: Yesterday at 03:13:24 PM »
Put me down for this deal as well.

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At what point do we fans become concerned with the slumping possession numbers?  If they stay that way after Matthews comes back?  Right now I have a hard time distinguishing what is happening now from what happened during the Kessel years.

Corsi is a proxy for possession, but not necessarily a proxy for how dangerous a team is (see LA Kings last season).

Case in point last Saturday's game vs. Boston, when they shelled us for a bajillion chances and McElhinney stood tall. Watch those shots again, and you'll see McElhinney just playing like a goalie is expected to, and Boston just firing it into the crest or pads from not that close in.

So the similarities with Carlyle's Leafs are that giving up lots of shots, but trying to keep them all to the outside. The Leafs right now are similarly letting some shots attempts through, but largely making sure they're not strenuous to save (a lot fewer rebound efforts lately).

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Basically identical to the Oshie deal as well.

Oshie being 2.5 years older makes that one a bit more questionable.

So if the Leafs actually want JvR for long term, it'll be in the 7/6M range. I don't see that happening with this Front Office. So does JvR want Cup chance or stability? He's already been underpaid for so long...

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NHL Transactions / Cam Atkinson extension: 7 years @ $5.875M AAV
« on: Yesterday at 11:34:31 AM »

Atkinson is 28 and for the past handful of years has been good for 40+ pts (more like 50-60 now), and 30 goals.

Maybe as good a JvR comparable as there is out there.

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This is a really sweet moment.

Whoever made the sign also needs some grammar lessons.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:08:40 AM »
The only defense Gudas has compared to Keith and Nyqvist is his swinging motion can be argued to be untargeted. Both Keith and Nyqvist were clearly swinging their sticks (upwards) in anger in the direction of the recipient player's head.

Gudas' in real time, looks like someone off balance trying to re-centre himself. I think it's pretty clear he intentionally whacked Perrault, but I don't think he intended to hit him in the neck or head. His eyes are on the play ahead and he wanted to get his stick down. My theory is that he decided to just bring it down hard to the ice, in case Perrault was still tangled up there, like on a leg, and not, as the slow motion replay suggests, that Perrault abandoned his post with the Night's Watch. If he really wanted to cut his head off, there'd have been more follow through and aiming.

Should still throw the book at him though. Intent doesn't matter as much if the behaviour is still reckless and dangerous.

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Nylander had that great pass to Rielly, a would’ve been good pass to Matthews if he was there, a strong backcheck, and then danced into his office with zero gas left to sling a fadeaway wrister on a sliding Schneider, all in one shift.
Kinda funny Hall basically left Nylander alone but I think he mightve been playing a potential pass to Gardiner.

It’s only fair after Nylander also gave Hall a free pass just before.

Good lord, that was awful.  Nylander let him walk right in.

While looking particularly egregious in isolation, it's not like anyone else was stopping Hall last night (other than Andersen). It was also a really good play by the Devils catching the Leafs tired.

Full OT
- Shift starts at 8:36 for Kadri - Nylander - Rielly
- Kadri strips Hall after he had taken the scramble off the draw and springs Nylander, who hits Rielly with a lead pass for a breakway (8:47)
- Nylander comes all the way back from the NJ goal line to break up Zajac's centering pass (8:57)
- Nylander tracks Moore back to the blueline and follows his man properly.
- (9:03) Moore smartly skates it into Kadri's coverage before bumping to the strong side as he knows his side is changing.
- Kadri starts to tail Moore after releasing Hall at the blueline, but Nylander doesn't fully handoff Moore to shade the sneaking Hall (Hall is really good at this). At this point, the Leafs are already 30 seconds into their shift and trapped.
- Palmieri sends a nice pass through Rielly's coverage (he's also gassed) at 9:04.
- This looks like a knob save by Andersen on Hall.

- Watch Hall deliberately dance through Rielly and Nylander's cross over coverage to get open at 9:20 when Palmieri circles at the blue line. Hall is ridiculously good at getting open. This is also clearly something Hynes has coached his team to do (forcing accidental picks).
- Palmieri elects to take the low percentage shot hoping for the rebound to Hall, but Andersen smartly kicks it out off the boards (9:21)
- Rielly still has the wherewithal to position himself high to shield the puck off the boards (9:22) and spring Nylander
- 9:24 and Nylander is now 48 seconds into his shift and busting his hump down the ice
- This 9:27 spin-o-rama centering pass that no one expects would have been a beautiful Matthews goal if he had been on the ice, but Rielly was changing and Kadri was still labouring up the ice. Three more strides and Kadri could've had it.
- Instead, Kadri picks up the errant pass and cycles behind the net with Nylander
- 9:32 Nylander wanders into the middle of the ice passing by Hall, who bit hard on Nylander's head fake towards Gardiner coming in down the wing, and elected to shade the defenseman instead (see the replay at 10:22)
- 9:34 Palmieri is clearly unfamiliar with Nylander and so he gives him several extra feet of space in coverage, also thinking he might pass to Gardiner
- Nylander buries a quick wrister past Schneider's left pad as he was cheating blocker side and got caught with the puck reversing on his movement when Nylander turned his hands. Hard to see from the back of his head, but it looked like Nylander was eying high blocker corner and let it fly low glove.

I need a gif machine.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 07:49:21 AM »

Quick is always selling something.

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Nylander had that great pass to Rielly, a would’ve been good pass to Matthews if he was there, a strong backcheck, and then danced into his office with zero gas left to sling a fadeaway wrister on a sliding Schneider, all in one shift.
Kinda funny Hall basically left Nylander alone but I think he mightve been playing a potential pass to Gardiner.

It’s only fair after Nylander also gave Hall a free pass just before.

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Nylander had that great pass to Rielly, a would’ve been good pass to Matthews if he was there, a strong backcheck, and then danced into his office with zero gas left to sling a fadeaway wrister on a sliding Schneider, all in one shift.

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Andersen
Nylander (even without the goal)

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