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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: October 17, 2018, 12:52:14 PM »
James Mirtle is saying they're heading towards a bridge deal based on the sources he's talked to.


https://theathletic.com/594581/2018/10/17/mirtle-william-nylander-stalemate-with-the-maple-leafs-appears-headed-for-a-bridge-deal-solution/

It's probably best for Nylander to go bridge. Has worked out well for other players in the past.

Bridge isn't ideal for the Leafs.

I disagree.  I think a bridge is actually the best thing for the Leafs.  I'm of the opinion that the Leafs have to get through the next two years, because of the Marleau contract.  So get Nylander in now at a lower hit for two years.  Get Marner and Matthews signed next year hopefully with some space because Nylander took the bridge, and then when Nylander's contract runs out you have the ability to revisit the discussions and slot Nylander in someplace around where Marner and Matthews are. 

Even with talk that Matthews wants a short deal, I still see it coming in around 12 million.   

I hear ya. I guess it depends on the parameters of the deal. Best case for the Leafs in my opinion would be 8 years at $6.5m which I thought was a fair target in the offseason.

If they can get Willy at $7m or $7.5m on an 8 year deal, I still think thatíll be better than what the number will be two years from now.

The Leafs might have to get creative in the interim.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: October 17, 2018, 09:10:32 AM »
James Mirtle is saying they're heading towards a bridge deal based on the sources he's talked to.


https://theathletic.com/594581/2018/10/17/mirtle-william-nylander-stalemate-with-the-maple-leafs-appears-headed-for-a-bridge-deal-solution/

It's probably best for Nylander to go bridge. Has worked out well for other players in the past.

Bridge isn't ideal for the Leafs.


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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: October 16, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »
I must be missing something as nothing in that post of yours makes my assumption incorrect?  It's why I keep asking how we can sign the 3 long term and not lose any present contracts. Obviously Marleau leaving or Nylander signing a bridge deal could solve it.

Well now you've lost me. You keep saying "how is this doable" and I gave you an example of how it is doable. If you're referring to losing Gardiner... well yeah. He might be a goner. That's just the reality of how the NHL works.

Also, why do you refuse to use the proper formatting for quoting people? I'm genuinely curious.

I think Gardiner is gone and not just to make cap room for other contracts. I don't think it'd be wise to sign Gardiner long term, even if the Leafs have the cap space.

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Willie who?

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LOL.  ;D

Good gosh.

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Lol

Lars Eller telling it like it is.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Auston Matthews
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:27:35 PM »
Given your druthers, would you rather have Matthews score 60 - 70 goals but end up with less than 100 points, or would you rather have him score around 40 goals but end up over 100 points?

I would rather the latter because it'd be more indicative of Matthews having some talent around him instead of a one man army.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »
Just thinking about the exodus of scoring wingers by boss Chiarelli in Edmonton. They had Hall and Eberle I believe on their 6x6 deals. Both now gone and they could really use scoring. When I preach strength down the middle with number-one centers and money for D and G, I certainly don't make light of the serious need for dynamic wingers. I just think that contending cap-teams can only really afford to splurge on one of them, and it looks like it'll be Mitchy more than Willy.

I think that's true. If you have Willy and Mitch it means you don't have that $8m guy patrolling the blue line.

Hopefully the $3m dman there can play some solid D.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:25:52 PM »
Am I the only one that thinks they should try to extend Gardiner, like, now? If we're floating Nylander for some of those names, to me, it just shows the value of keeping what we have. Jake's had a rough start, and maybe is having a few confidence issues, particularly going into a contract year.. maybe he'd be happy to be part of this going forward and get back on track - I'd be very comfortable giving him Zaitsev money and term... and moving Zaitsev.

I think they should trade him at the deadline.  :-[

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Media Thread
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:23:30 PM »
The Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

I'm not sure what going "Bobby Ryan" means in this context but I can just as easily say that not having Nylander could hinder dreams of a cup. Regardless, I don't want this to turn into yet another Nylander thread.

What I'm saying is that Dubas really only has one nuclear option in his pocket and he can't really use it for Matthews so the idea that he "has" to take this position with Nylander because of how it will affect his other dealings seems like a poorly thought out point here. As said above, Burke may not be the guy to listen to here.

What I'm trying to say is I agree with you, but because this situation won't exist with Matthews because there won't be a discrepancy about his worth and his indispensability to the team.

Nylander is replaceable (if not equalled) and he could be used to address other needs.

Yeah, sorry. I guess everything is just revolving around Nylander now.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Media Thread
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:21:57 AM »

I actually think the opposite is true. The harder the stance that Dubas takes with Nylander sort of weakens his position with Matthews and Marner. He can't let all of them sit or trade them all. Realistically, Dubas can play chicken with one of them. If he wants to do that with Nylander, fine, but the "trade him if he doesn't want to play ball" stuff is going to be hard enough to make work with Nylander, it would be damn near impossible with Marner and ludicrous to try on Matthews.

I don't think there's a chance of this situation happening with Matthews. He's going to get McDavid money (or possibly a little more) and no one is going to argue about it. If the Matthews contract blows up, the Leafs will probably be sunk anyway in terms of cup hopes.

Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

Marner's extension will be trickier than Matthews.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Morgan Rielly
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:09:26 AM »

Where Rielly ends up ranking among that draft class' defensemen is still a pretty interesting question. That he's better than the guys picked ahead of him seems like a safe bet. That he's better than the guys picked right after him(Lindholm, Dumba, Trouba) is still up in the air. Then there's the third rounders in the mix as well(Gostisbehere, Parayko).

Depends on whatís being measured, I think. Offensively speaking, heís always been a very good pseudo-forward. Defensively could be considered very meh.

His points are lighting up now because of the forwards heís getting the puck to, not necessarily that heís improved significantly.

I'm not sure I agree wholeheartedly. I think Rielly is playing with a new found confidence to jump up into the play and express his offensive side. The PP really is running through him even if Marner is the linchpin. 

I've always thought Rielly was good defensively, Carrick would have been more of a meh for me.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: October 12, 2018, 10:08:45 PM »
Hopefully thereís a GM out there that overrates Nylander like some Leaf fans.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: October 11, 2018, 01:22:19 PM »

I want to keep him, letís get a third line going... L1: Matthews/Nylander, L2: Tavares/Marner, L3: Kadri/Kappi

Flip Kapanen with Nylander and I do think we have a better set of line, since any RW with Matthews will score a ton... let Kappy build up some confidence in his game.

Can we PLEASE let Kapanen play the season on Matthews wing for the entire season so he can put up 20 goals - 40 assists and we can have a debate next season how he's worth $8m/season.  ;D

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He's certainly playing his best yet offensively.  Don't know what the fancy stats say about the other side of the puck.

His CF is 51.7% right now, which is a touch higher than what he's posted the past few years (between 49.8%-50.8%). With that said his shots against, goals against, and expected goals against rates are fairly significantly worse than his norms. Granted, we're only talking about 4 (wild) games.

Thanks, and makes sense given we are binge-watching That 80s Show thus far.

I guess I wonder whether it is even possible to "tighten up the defense" given the way the offense is structured and the parity in the league today.  The tale of last night's game was that Dallas's big line was superb.  The only difference is that we had 2 big superb lines.

For me, it's not so much tightening up the defense or improving the defensive system or players. For me, it's all about eliminating the turnovers/mistakes.

I think if this current d-core can eliminate the mistakes, they'll be just fine. That being said, maybe this combination of players are unable to do so.

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