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I'm trying to remember which press conference someone asked Babcock (or a Leaf) a really poop emoji question, and it turned out to be the ol' Soup Ken.

The reporter talking about Cherry was Ken Campbell.

I think Hunter has played a huge part in the success of the Marlies and the draft picks he's made that have seamlessly made the leap to the Leafs. I've been impressed with the kids in the system since Hunter came aboard. Certainly Hunter doesn't deserve all the credit, but man oh man I'd hate to see some other team pick him up.

That's a bit of an overstatement. He argued for Marner in 2015 when he and Dubas co-managed the draft before Lou and Babcock wanted Hanafin. (Dubas traded down remember to get the picks to select Bracco and Dermott.) Three years out though only Marner and Dermott have made any impact at the NHL with Bracco and Timashov beginning to produce in the AHL, although Bracco has been a healthy scratch at times during these playoffs.

In 2016 and 2017 he seemed to be the guy in charge at the draft, so let's look at his picks.


* Yegor Korshkov
* Carl Grundstrom (Looks like a good pick in limited time with Marlies.)
* Joseph Woll
* James Greenway
* Adam Brooks (Had an underwhelming first pro season with limited minutes, room to grow as a player and a pro, still has upside though.)
* Keaton Middleton
* Vladimir Bobylev
* Jack Walker
* Nicolas Mattinen
* Nikolai Chebykin

The rest of that is a huge bag of meh so far.


Ryan O’Connell
Ryan McGregor
Fedor Gordeev (Promising, but having extreme Jake Gardiner type growing pains transition from F to D.)
Vladislav Kara
Ian Scott
Eemeli Rasanen
Timothy Liljegren (Very promising as an 18y/o in the AHL, but likely still at least a year away from the NHL.)

So basically, Hunter's impact on the AHL has been Bracco, Timashov, Brooks and Liljegren in depth roles and Dermott who Dubas traded down for as the most meaningful piece. Grundstrom could need a season in the AHL too potentially.

At the NHL outside of Marner and Matthews who both seemed like slam-dunk picks at the time, he hasn't produced massively in three drafts.

I don't write all this to have a pop at you Redleaf, I just wanted to be clear on what exactly Hunter did, the media has painted his as a scouting God and we've yet to fully see that.

Honestly the waiting was making me sweat a little so I'm glad this is finally official.

Yup, I would not be surprised if the NHL asked them to hold off until after the 2nd round.

A nice part of this is that it'll suck all the air out of the room in terms of the Jets making the conference finals, their fans will be furious that all the coverage will be about Toronto now today.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: May 10, 2018, 08:14:31 PM »
That's ballsy from a network that seems pretty notorious for cancelling shows that receive good critical acclaim  pretty easily.  Who knows if Harmon can keep his ego in check to write a consistent additional 2-3 seasons let alone 5-7.

I mean, it's weird all around, right? Like you say Harmon and Roiland seem to have trouble working together, they take forever to make new episodes...I guess it's just making a ton of money? And maybe some of the delays were negotiating stalls?

Somehow I doubt they make 70 more episodes but I think this means we'll get at least a few more which I might not have said was even money last week.

Harmon was on Smodcast recently and said that the delay has been due to renegotiating their original contracts, he indicated that it was going well and fans could expect plenty more.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« on: May 08, 2018, 07:37:34 PM »
AJ from Timoth and Engvall makes it 2-0 with a few minutes still left on the major penalty.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« on: May 08, 2018, 07:34:03 PM »
The Crunch might have quit here, they had a guy suspended last game for a low hit on Marchment, the guy that replaced that player is Gallant and he just took a 10 foot run at Marchment and hit him in the head and has been tossed.

5 minutes and a game misconduct for Gallant.

At one point earlier the Marlies had been cycling it in the offensive zone for over 30 seconds while shorthanded.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« on: May 08, 2018, 07:21:37 PM »
1-0 Marlies early in Game 4 via Timashov.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Lou Will Not Return
« on: May 03, 2018, 03:02:05 PM »
I was just thinking about that media push too herman.

Looking at it now, it seems they wanted to take time to craft a new public image for Dubas in the hopes it goes a long way towards convincing more casual fans that he is more than just some nerd with a calculator and pocket protector.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Lou Will Not Return
« on: May 03, 2018, 02:32:11 PM »
2 had clauses that let them decide roughly where they would go with one of those saying publicly he didn't want to go to Canada.

I'd be curious to see when Demers (I'm assuming that's who you're talking about) publicly stated he didn't want to go to Canada.

Demers sorta confirmed that he nixed a trade to Vancouver, but I don't think he said anything about the entire country.

I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain it was mentioned that privately he didn't like the taxation in Canada.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: May 03, 2018, 11:48:59 AM »
I loved the original Karate Kid trilogy as a kid and I loved the new youtube show Cobra Kai a lot more than I thought I would. I was very cynical going into it, but it struck the right cheesy and nostalgic chords.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Avengers: Infinity War (Spoilers!)
« on: May 03, 2018, 11:46:59 AM »
I enjoyed it, for the most part, part of me feels a little cheated by the inevitability of what comes next though.

I am in no way a fan of the IIHF, but I am glad they did this.

I understand why it happened, I just don't think it's acceptable behavior in a reasonable society.

Respect for the occasion and civility towards everyone who has worked to make this thing happen isn't a lot to ask for. For some that tournament was the culmination of a life's work and these petulant kids couldn't make it through the medal ceremony without acting out.

The adults deserve even more severe punishment.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Lou Will Not Return
« on: May 02, 2018, 10:27:55 AM »
I think the Andersen deal showed that when they thought they had a chance to add a significant piece to the roster that they would pay a substantial price.

I know we don't want to rob the cupboard bare of all future assets, but they were likely a top 4 RD from being a second round team and who knows what from there.

To me, the key issue for the Leafs was not having someone good in the Hainsey spot. It would have pushed Hainsey and Zaitsev down the lineup, lowered their workload and quality of competition and allowed them to make plays.

I think an Andersen type deal with perhaps a little more value in terms of depth D like Carrick/Borgman could have shaken a significant RD upgrade loose.

Lou was just too conservative a lot of the time, especially after the Phaneuf deal.

He spent middling assets on short-term solutions and never really spent big on a long-term one.

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