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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Today at 07:17:30 PM »
And I've got Winnik at .29ppg since beginning of 2015-2016 during regular season games.

With the lovely user experience/ease of use of nhl.com stats, I'm having trouble getting his PK time, but I imagine it's not as significant as Komarov's.

I think Komarov is a significantly more valuable piece than either Winnik or Boyle.

If you want to quickly see someone's PK time, CBS lists it on their player page.

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Seems more likely that the arbitration was more a symptom than a cause there.

And I have to think Sakic deserves a spot, good return for Duchene notwithstanding.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Today at 03:48:46 PM »
On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

In his last three years seasons, Komarov racked up around 450 penalty minutes while scoring at a .45 ppg pace. Comparatively, Boyle played less on the PK(in more games) and scored at a significantly lower pace(.30).

I don't exactly know what the offer would be but I think a pretty compelling case can be made that Komarov is more valuable than Boyle.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: Today at 03:39:06 PM »
So far in this show, it's following a similar motivation beat that you referenced in the sex trafficking story, at least at first. He isn't trying to topple the systems and industries of injustice; he's just taking out anyone tangentially related to the reason he and his family were ambushed. The series quickly grounds that nihilism behind something a bit more relatable, even if Castle's personal motivation remains the same.

Well, but that's sort of my point. In the books, they go to some lengths to establish that what happened to him and his family was random. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. A victim not of a specific targeting but just the general atmosphere of lawlessness(it's important to keep in mind that the character was conceived in 70's era New York and as a Vietnam Veteran, something Ennis holds onto as key elements of the character) What he does he does out of obsession/an inability to deal with grief. The idea of him taking a break from it all to work construction because he figures he's gotten everyone behind the specific thing that happened to him and his family is very much not the idea.

I'm really very much not someone who has a problem with these properties deviating from the books generally. I just feel that sort of obsessive rage at the random cruelty of life is sort of the entire crux of what makes the character interesting. "They killed my family, so now I want revenge on them" is dime a dozen stuff.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Today at 01:19:48 PM »
By the same token, I don’t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won’t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: Today at 12:31:36 PM »
I’m not familiar with Ennis’ story to know what’s missing. Did any in particular themes come to mind, Nik?

Well, theme is probably a thorny word there as it can be hard to isolate that from plot and substance. But I think it's an important distinction to make that he's not just a more violent Batman. In most of those stories his motivations aren't really important(and they're certainly not as simple as protecting other people or revenge). Largely they're meditations on grief and rage, even as they're largely meaningless.

(There's a particular story about Eastern European sex trafficking which actually spells it out plainly. He kills a bunch of people because he hates criminals but is under no illusion that anything he did will change any of the damage done or put any real dent in the sex trafficking industry)

It's ugly and nihilistic in a lot of ways and I understand why ugly, violent nihilism isn't an easy sell. I do get why you can't really adapt most of his stuff faithfully(Ennis also wrote Preacher and most of what the Constantine movie is based on).

Alan Sepinwall said in his review that the Punisher really worked best in the books as a supporting character in his own books. You set up a neat crime story, establish some reprehensible villains and...then the Punisher kills them. Flipping that around into an examination of him or putting him in a traditional hero's role means, by default, having to try and analyze him or sympathize with him. Make him "good". But by the standard of the better books that'd be as silly as saying "Sure, he murdered all of those campers...but what makes Jason tick? What does he do when not killing?"

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Today at 09:42:09 AM »
I'm a massive fan of Komarov. In fact for a while in those really lean tough to watch years he was probably a favourite player just because of the way he went about things and the heart and effort he brought every night. He even had more of a skilled upside than you'd expect at times.

But I love the Leafs more and you have to do what is in the best long term interests of the Leafs, so probably you move him and then you can always talk to him again in the summer if needs be similar to the likes of Winnik. I think he'll get a better deal elsewhere as a UFA than I'd be willing to give him now, but that may change should others move on also (Bozak, JVR primarily)

Winnik also seems like a perfect comparison in terms of return. He returned a 2nd and a 4th the first time(and Zach Sill) and a 2nd and Connor Carrick the second time(while eating the Laich contract). You have to figure Komarov could fetch at least that. More if he's as valuable as some seem to think.

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Pilkunnussija, get a life.

Mulkku, you were also wrong on substance.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Yesterday at 09:26:03 PM »
Obviously from a future pipeline perspective, you turn the asset.

But as it stands today, the Leafs' record is 3rd in the league.  If they're in and around 3rd in the league at the trade deadline, do you really mess with your shot at a Cup this year?  I don't think I do.

If I was flirting with being the 10th-12th best team in the league, I think I turn JVR, Bozak, and Komarov...but I don't think I do that if I'm in a position where I'm amongst the very best teams in the league. 

You still have to pick your spots to take a run.

I don't necessarily disagree with that in theory but I think we have to be realistic about how good the team really is and acknowledge that records can be a little misleading. Right now the Leafs are only 3rd if you ignore measuring them in terms of points per game. They're actually 8th when games played are taken into account, behind teams like Jersey and Vegas. There's been a lot of good from this team this year but it's been pretty rare that I've watched them play a full 60 minutes and thought "this team might really have it this year".

And I really do not for the life of me get the urgency some of you are seeing. There's another season before the big extensions will kick in and even then the team is pretty free of bad contracts. They can't be careless with extension but the idea that their chances are fleeting seems pretty out there to me. They're at the start of their window, not the end.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Yesterday at 03:43:08 PM »
The only thing swinging things back towards a better return is non-1st round draft picks seem to fly out the door near the deadline.

Well, that and the whole selling point of Komarov is that he's a really good defensive player who helps out on the penalty kill(neither of which is true of Shaw) along with him being a valuable intangibles sort.

Otherwise it seems like this seems pretty contradictory. On the one hand Komarov will be a significant factor in determining where the Leafs get in the playoffs, on the other he's worth pretty meagre picks. I don't think both can be definitively true. Conversely, I'm not making any statements about his worth but I think his relatively minimal impact on where they finish is probably outweighed by what he could fetch.

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A noble quest.  We should all be aware that Idiocracy is happening before our very eyes.

I want to be remembered as the King Canute of my time.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: Yesterday at 01:02:36 PM »

Eh, this is probably one I'm a little too close to to be entirely objective. The Punisher books, specifically the ones written by Garth Ennis, are some of my very favourite comics of all time. As a result it's been pretty disappointing seeing attempt after attempt to take those specific books and try to mould them into something fit for mass consumption. The Daredevil series already tried to do that with one of my absolute favourite Punisher stories(The Punisher and a tied-up Daredevil on the roof) but took what was a very interesting examination of the kind of grief-driven obsession that drives Frank Castle as a character by forcing a more traditional hero to see things his way and turned it into a pretty bog standard case of the hero saving the day in the nick of time.

So I tried with the new series but it's the same old thing. They want to take the neat things Ennis did, the characters he created and some of the stories he set-up, and ignore any of the larger themes of what he did and just turn the character into a rehashed Charles Bronson type.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: Yesterday at 12:12:55 PM »
Pretty much any player is "replaceable".

I think fundamentally this is the point here. Most guys are replaceable so when you can flip them for assets you probably should. Especially in a situation where you are dealing with a lot of depth at a particular position and the guy you have no is arguably already overpaid for what he brings to the table.

Like other people are saying, thriving in a cap world requires a little bit of ruthlessness. This is going to be a hard adjustment for a fanbase that, in the past, has fallen in love with their 3rd and 4th line grinders.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:14:10 PM »
I just bristle at the comment that he wouldn't be a difference maker in the playoffs.  Sure, he wouldn't light up the scoresheet, but that's not his role and I think he's pretty effective in his role.

He wouldn't be replaced by nobody. He'd be replaced by someone with other skills that could also be valuable. The value Komarov brings vs. the value his replacement would(even if it's an internal replacement) is small enough that any series that would be decided by his presence is effectively going to be a toss-up anyway and is far more likely to be decided by any one of a hundred other variables.

Again, saying he wouldn't make the difference in a playoff run isn't the same thing as saying he's without value.

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It's probably key to keep in mind that the Coyotes are a young team and probably not as bad as their record indicates. The Leafs should be better than them on any given night but you can't expect to dominate anybody in this league.

I also agree with busta. The possession numbers didn't strike me as indicative of much tonight.

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