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R1G1—TOR v BOS: Bruins 5-1.  MotM: Hyman 7/1.  HM: Zaitsev 1/4.  Others: Kadri 0/1, Brown 0/1, Gardiner 0/1.
R1G2—TOR v BOS: Bruins 7-3. MotM: Matthews 2/0. HM: Dermott 1/2.  Others: Bozak 0/1.
R1G3—BOS v TOR: Leafs 4-2.  MotM: Plekanec 7/3.  HM: Marleau 4/8.  Others: Andersen 5/2, Gardiner 0/3.
R1G4—BOS v TOR: Bruins 3-1.  MotM: Marner 6/3.  HM: Plekanec 2/4. Others: Reilly 1/2.
R1G5—TOR v BOS: Leafs 4-3.  MotM: Andersen 14/0.  HM: Kadri 0/6.  Others: Hyman 0/5, Johnsson 0/1, Hainsey 1/1, Brown 0/1, Bozak 0/1.
R1G6—BOS v TOR: Leafs 3-1.  MotM: Andersen 13/0.  HM: Marner 0/6.  Others: Plekanec 1/4, Gardiner 0/1, Hyman 0/1, Nylander 0/1, Zaitsev 0/1.
R1G7—TOR v BOS: Bruins 7-4.  MotM: Marleau 10/0 (unanimous).  HM: Kapanen 0/9.  Others: Marner 0/1.

   
   MotM/Win      MotM/Loss      HonMen      Accolades      Times Voted      Points   
Forwards
42 Tyler Bozak   0      0      0      0      2      0   
12 Connor Brown   0      0      0      0      2      0   
11 Zach Hyman   0      1      0      1      3      2   
32 Josh Leivo   0      0      0      0      0      0   
18 Andreas Johnsson   0      0      0      0      1      0   
43 Nazem Kadri   0      0      1      1      2      1   
24 Kasperi Kapanen   0      0      1      1      1      1   
47 Leo Komarov   0      0      0      0      0      0   
12 Patrick Marleau   0      1      1      2      2      3   
16 Mitch Marner   0      1      1      2      3      3   
15 Matt Martin   0      0      0      0      0      0   
34 Auston Matthews   0      1      0      1      1      2   
28 Dominic Moore   0      0      0      0      0      0   
29 William Nylander   0      0      0      0      1      0   
19 Tomas Plekanec   1      0      1      2      3      4   
25 James van Riemsdyk   0      0      0      0      0      0   
 
Defensemen
8 Connor Carrick   0      0      0      0      0      0   
23 Travis Dermott   0      0      1      1      1      2   
51 Jake Gardiner   0      0      0      0      3      0   
2 Ron Hainsey   0      0      0      0      1      0   
46 Roman Polak   0      0      0      0      0      0   
44 Morgan Rielly   0      0      0      0      1      0   
22 Nikita Zaitsev   0      0      1      1      2      2   
 
Goalkeepers
31 Frederik Andersen   2      0      0      2      3      5.0   
35 Curtis McElhinney   0      0      0      0      0      0.0   
                                                         
I guess if I had to pick our best player in the series it would be Marner.  Andersen and Gardiner both had good series showings undone by their Game 7 collapse.

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Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isn’t clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isn’t fixed there won’t be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.

Over the last two seasons: 5th most total goals  despite playing 10-20 fewer (<----see that herman) games than most of the guys ahead of him, most even strength goals (tied with McDavid, but 20 fewer games), 3rd highest goals per game.

He's not overrated, he's flat out amazing and is only 20 years old.

He was flat out less than amazing this series.  And he's not beyond criticism.

Let me be clear: I said he might be a tad overrated.  By that, I mean he might end up being a notch or two below, say, Crosby.  He hasn't yet shown he can dominate a playoff game, let alone a series.  That's what I hope to see from him.  But it's an open question.

If he'd turned in a Marner-level performance this series, I wouldn't have any doubts anymore.  Until he does, I will: meaning, I wonder whether he'll not quite make the level of the best of the best.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: What to do with JVR
« on: Yesterday at 11:47:53 PM »
Just saying in the blame queue he's about 2/3ds of the way back.

My bringing the thread back to life has nothing to do with blame for the outcome of the Boston series. Rather, has to do with the inability of management to apprehend the situation their team was in, which has been clear to a lot of us for months now.

Right, and as I said I agree with you.

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Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isn’t clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isn’t fixed there won’t be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.
Matthew is not overrated and I'm def not worried about him. Give some credit to Chara. I think Babs said that Datsyuk didn't score a goal in his 1st 4 playoff series. He's 20 years old. I really hope Babs gives him Johnsson or Kaps for a winger next year.

I hope I'm wrong but he's definitely got something to prove in the playoffs next year (assuming we make them).

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: What to do with JVR
« on: Yesterday at 11:08:54 PM »
I don't think they should re-sign him but he did score 3 PP goals in the series, which is more than 34 & 29 did.  So best wishes James, you were a great trade and all the best wherever you land.

Which amounts to... what exactly? We go out in 5 rather than 6? I don't care a fig.


It just reeked of "Hey, steps 1 and 2 of the project are going well, that means we can skip steps 3 and 4, right?"

No, you can't skip like so, and it's your job to see that and act accordingly! Otherwise we could just let sickbeast or whoever run the damned franchise. So... Agreed. And on your point -- somewhere up there -- that it was an indecisive, cowardly move constrained by common sense.

Just saying in the blame queue he's about 2/3ds of the way back.

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A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Are we talking about Matthews?

Yes.

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R1G1—TOR v BOS: Bruins 5-1.  MotM: Hyman 7/1.  HM: Zaitsev 1/4.  Others: Kadri 0/1, Brown 0/1, Gardiner 0/1.
R1G2—TOR v BOS: Bruins 7-3. MotM: Matthews 2/0. HM: Dermott 1/2.  Others: Bozak 0/1.
R1G3—BOS v TOR: Leafs 4-2.  MotM: Plekanec 7/3.  HM: Marleau 4/8.  Others: Andersen 5/2, Gardiner 0/3.
R1G4—BOS v TOR: Bruins 3-1.  MotM: Marner 6/3.  HM: Plekanec 2/4. Others: Reilly 1/2.
R1G5—TOR v BOS: Leafs 4-3.  MotM: Andersen 14/0.  HM: Kadri 0/6.  Others: Hyman 0/5, Johnsson 0/1, Hainsey 1/1, Brown 0/1, Bozak 0/1.
R1G6—BOS v TOR: Leafs 3-1.  MotM: Andersen 13/0.  HM: Marner 0/6.  Others: Plekanec 1/4, Gardiner 0/1, Hyman 0/1, Nylander 0/1, Zaitsev 0/1.
R1G7—TOR v BOS:
R2G1—TOR v TBL:  :)

I love your moxie kid.

 :(

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A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: What to do with JVR
« on: Yesterday at 10:59:13 PM »
On reflection, I think I'll conclude that my opening bid -- trading him and other UFAs -- for futures was the right move.

One more playoff game for a reasonably good chance at decent, cost controlled players in 3 years is a bad deal.

Lou. Retire, binch.

Yeah, that was just a terribly mismanaged move. It bums me out to have been right about it but the Leafs were always going to face long odds getting out of the first round and you don't keep guys around for that.

It just reeked of "Hey, steps 1 and 2 of the project are going well, that means we can skip steps 3 and 4, right?"

Bang on.  They should have stayed with the plan (at least the plan of 2 years ago).

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Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isn’t clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isn’t fixed there won’t be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: What to do with JVR
« on: Yesterday at 10:54:35 PM »
I don't think they should re-sign him but he did score 3 PP goals in the series, which is more than 34 & 29 did.  So best wishes James, you were a great trade and all the best wherever you land.

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Kapanen could have had 4 goals in this series.  That guy is a clutch player.

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You're welcome, BL, and I feel for you being there tonight.

MotM: Marleau
HM: Kapanen

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Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.

We gave them a helluva scare.  But we are still more than a year away from being a serious playoff threat.  They've got to win a series first.

It’s all about the culmination of positive steps forward. It’s the first season playing with real expectations. We are going to cut bait with some anchors on the roster and the kids (who will still be kids) will be a bit wiser next time around. No way Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott don’t get full seasons with the big club.

As I said before the series began, this is the last year they get to play with house money in the playoffs.  They'd better win a playoff round next year or there will be some major rebellion due.

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This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.

There's no way you can class this loss with the last one.

It feels the same.

I won't try to deny you your feelings, but blowing a 3 goal lead they way they did is objectively a whole different animal.

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