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Coach/GM Eichel didn't want the internal struggle of a fight for 1st line minutes. 
I would have liked this better for Buffalo if they still had Ryan O'Reilly

That trade still baffles me from their perspective.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: Official Ottawa Senators Thread
« on: August 01, 2018, 04:06:34 PM »
I don't know what the Marlies do but when they were in St. John's the team would keep a list of good rentals to make it easier for the players. 

The implication being that most teams just handle this stuff on their own?

Honestly, I'm not being sarcastic here. I just would have assumed most AHL teams would let their players figure out their own housing situation. Do the Leafs provide for the Marlies?

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NHL Transactions / Re: Minor Transactions - 2018 Offseason
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:29:19 AM »
Wish they would go to an either/or arbitration process. I actually think the team's offer is rather fair.
So Cody Ceci figures he is a $6 million player??  I guess Gardiner should be asking for $8??

I think everyone needs to realize players are always going to ask for MORE than they are actually worth.  How often does an arbitrator (in the NHL) pick the player ask or the team ask.  Its always somewhere in the middle.  If he thinks he deserves 4.5, he's not going to ask for 4.5, he's going to ask for 6.

BTW, he's not worth 4.5 either.

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NHL Transactions / Re: Minor Transactions - 2018 Offseason
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:16:38 AM »
So Cody Ceci figures he is a $6 million player??  I guess Gardiner should be asking for $8??

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The Matthews Extension
« on: July 27, 2018, 06:13:11 PM »
I see no way Matthew's takes less than Eichel which isnt that much less than Tavares.
I think we get Mathews cheaper then everyone thinks.  As Traveres is on his main contract aka the big one. but Mathews is only on his first pay day. the big big bucks will come on his next one, and the same for the other two.  I think everyone is over blowing the amount they should get.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: July 24, 2018, 02:41:31 PM »
$6, $7, and $11 million.

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Just remember that only one parent should meltdown at a time,  the other then needs to be the voice of reason. Positions will be switched regularly until ... well forever!!

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: July 23, 2018, 10:15:35 AM »
I'm one of the rare folks who isn't a Hamilton fan.  Just always seems to be a guy that can't get to the next level or care that he can't.
If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.

You know what would be fun?

to TOR: Hamilton
to WPG: Gardiner
to CAR: Trouba

plus whatever else we would need to furnish the trade to even out values (more from us probably -- Kapanen/Brown/Johnsson, Top 90 picks, B-prospects), but we'd get a cost controlled 1RD at the end of it.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: July 23, 2018, 09:36:01 AM »
If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.
I think it's time for a bit of mutual back scratching:

to TOR: Trouba, Griffith(!!!)
to WPG: Gardiner, Nielsen, Greenway, 3rd Rd Pick

Trouba's relationship with the Jets is pretty sour by now, after a dogfight of an arbitration hearing. Gardiner goes to another contender that's closer to home and in need of LD stability. We give up more because Trouba is younger and still RFA.

The throw-ins are debatable.

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 18, 2018, 04:43:36 PM »
Feel free to go your own way.


Kuh - Why


How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

That's ridiculous.  I thought it was Cow-eee, and I think I should be right.

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 18, 2018, 03:57:52 PM »


Kuh - Why


How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 18, 2018, 03:37:27 PM »
Yeah certainly not worth arguing over but I put Tavares top 20 players in League and Matthews top 10. That would correspond with position I would put two traded players.
UGH.  As much as I love John Tavares, he's probably in the 10-20 range in the league.  And in the NBA, the superstars drive your success more than they do in the NHL (see:  McDavid)

Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

So not to belabor this point, but I am totally going to labor this point.  It was a bit tongue in cheek. 

Kawhi Leonard has been described as a superstar.  One of the top 5 players in the league when he is at his best.  The pundits have said that they gave up a real good player to get him. 

I put John Tavares in the superstar category and above the real good player category.  Is he top 5 in the League?  At his best, possibly.  2015 was a monster year for Tavares.  He finished third in Hart trophy voting, and he was a 1st team all star.  He also finished third in the scoring race.  So he's three years removed from that, but he has gotten to that level before, and I don't think he has dropped off that much.     

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 18, 2018, 02:47:57 PM »
Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The Matthews Extension
« on: July 09, 2018, 05:29:08 PM »
Thanks, didn't see that.
Tweet below is from Gino Reda. I can't figure out if Orr is saying Matthews wants to play in Toronto like Tavares or go home like Tavares??



 Bobby Orr on Auston Matthews negotiation.- “I don’t think it’s (about) money. It’s like John Tavares’ free agency. He wants to play in Toronto and if it doesn’t happen this year before the season starts, he still has a year left to fulfill his contract and we’ll see what happens”

There was an interview on TSN where Orr said that Matthews is very happy that Tavares is on the team, and Matthews wants to win a Cup, and that talk of any unhappiness on Matthews' part is silly and untrue.  He also dismissed the captaincy as being an issue.

So, I would say that Orr's suggesting that there are no issues with Matthews and the Leafs at all.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The Matthews Extension
« on: July 09, 2018, 05:15:25 PM »
Tweet below is from Gino Reda. I can't figure out if Orr is saying Matthews wants to play in Toronto like Tavares or go home like Tavares??



 Bobby Orr on Auston Matthews negotiation.- “I don’t think it’s (about) money. It’s like John Tavares’ free agency. He wants to play in Toronto and if it doesn’t happen this year before the season starts, he still has a year left to fulfill his contract and we’ll see what happens”

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