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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 15, 2018, 06:54:45 PM »
You might have  a decent argument if that Panik guy isn't currently being healthy scratched by the Coyotes!!!!!   
Really dumb trade . He’s tearing up the AHL. This looks like a Panik situation all over again. Why they give skilled guys away to keep junk like Komarov, Moore and Martin I have no idea.

I’d sloy him in over Brown, Komarov and Brown right now.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: February 15, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »
I meet a lot of people who think that the idea of paying for someone else's healthcare is nothing short of full blown socialism. The same folks then later tell me of the horrible story of how much a co-pay medical treatment cost them??? Sometimes I explain the single payer would actually help even them but most times I just laugh inside. 
If America had two things it vehemently hates: Less social stratification and single payer healthcare a huge portion of their current problems would be solved. Instead you have poor, disaffected people who need help who have easy access to lethal weapons.

I give up. America had turned its back on all logic. Rome isn't burning, it's being sacked.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: February 15, 2018, 06:04:38 PM »
Had a gun conversation earlier this week.  It started with me saying that my Wife doesn't like AZ and seeing people with guns is a large part of it.  The guys from Denver said they understand as in Colorado you have to cover your gun???  Yeah that solves it??  They just think differently than most Canadians in regards to guns and healthcare as two big examples.


I spend about 4 months each winter in Arizona and golf daily with whoever they pair me up with.  Last year I had a daily conversations with Americans about Politics and they were from both sides of the spectrum.  This year I have been here for two months now and have not heard even 5 things said about Politics.  It seems few are even paying attention to the mess that is occurring and are kinda turned away as if that means it is isn't happening because they aren't looking??  Will be interesting to see how that changes in a couple years as next election approaches.

It's kind of like - what's the point anymore? Everyone is so polarized and unwilling to consider any opposing viewpoints, so trying to talk about this stuff is like banging your head against a wall. I've basically given up on such topics as guns, climate change, etc. The gun violence here has gotten so ridiculous and pervasive, that events like yesterday hardly even register anymore. "Oh, another school shooting? How many killed? 17? OK." Both sides will trot out their standard talking points, no one will listen, and we'll repeat the same process again and again.

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NHL Transactions / Re: Phaneuf traded to LA
« on: February 13, 2018, 10:40:40 PM »
Saravelli says $5.5 million in cash savings for the Sens.


Why do either team make this trade?

I kinda get it from LA's position - they're trying to beef up their blue line for a run at the last wildcard spot, and they really don't give up much, as Gaborik has really struggled this season and Shore is basically a 3rd line depth type (and Thompson pretty much replaces him). I don't get it from Ottawa's perspective, other than the fact they save some money in terms of real dollars (around $4M in total). In terms of talent/team building, it's an odd choice for them, as there's barely any cap savings (other than potential LTIR, as Gaborik is Gaborik) and they don't really improve for the future.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: February 11, 2018, 10:10:34 AM »
This is a true story that still blows my mind over 30 years later.  I'm from a small town that is all white,
 never hated anyone for any reason especially skin color.  I got selected for a Provincial sports team and the team had a Black guy and a Japanese guy.  The Black guy walks up to me and introduces himself
 with Hi I'm Alex but everyone calls me Nig!!!!  I crapped my pants and quickly replied "you will be Alex to me"  He didn't seem to care but that interaction still bothers me.
You know, when they were trying to find the problem in Montreal's dressing room I'm not sure that they found the white, sorry, I mean "right", guy.

Did you see one of his former teammates from the WJC’s comment?
It was not good.

Well hey now I'm sure that guy had a good reason for using a racial slur to describe Subban for the past 9 years.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: February 11, 2018, 09:46:53 AM »
You know, when they were trying to find the problem in Montreal's dressing room I'm not sure that they found the white, sorry, I mean "right", guy.

Why not consider that the his fellow players just don't like his flashy selfish attitude rather than them being Racists??  I recall in the Final last year when he started the Crosby bad breath BS, which he admitted, it was reported than more than a couple of his Nashville teammates were not happy either. I like the player a lot, and the person even more, but it's easy to see how it might wear thin in a closed environment when you aren't doing so well.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: February 01, 2018, 10:08:33 AM »
I spend about 4 months each winter in Arizona and golf daily with whoever they pair me up with.  Last year I had a daily conversations with Americans about Politics and they were from both sides of the spectrum.  This year I have been here for two months now and have not heard even 5 things said about Politics.  It seems few are even paying attention to the mess that is occurring and are kinda turned away as if that means it is isn't happening because they aren't looking??  Will be interesting to see how that changes in a couple years as next election approaches.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: January 04, 2018, 10:25:32 PM »
Larsson was a steady force for the Oilers last year and all of their D stayed in the lineup.  It's silly to suggest they miss Eberle, they missed Sekera a lot more this season.  And when you have no top line D you really need your group of 2nd pairing guys to play well like they did last season. 
Wasn’t Edmonton’s playoff season largely due to Talbot and McDavid? Is Larsson that much of a difference maker?

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: January 04, 2018, 05:12:29 PM »
This year you are correct but that trade probably put them in playoffs last year.  No idea how to explain how bad they are this year??
Lucic + RH defenseman from trade > Hall + UFA D is really, really bad evaluation.
Trading Hall for any defenseman that's not even 40% Karlsson 1 for 1 is what makes it worse.

Ultimately, it was just a bad decision in a series of bad decisions.

Well, you're making the assumption that such a player was available for trade for Hall.

Also, to Nik's post, the evaluation that includes signing a good UFA defenseman to an affordable cap hit wasn't really an option for the Oilers...it was a "hope that we can sign", not a concrete option.  Good/great UFA defensemen don't sign in Edmonton, historically.

The correct answer here would've been to simply not trade Hall and definitely not sign Lucic. Literally doing nothing would've left them in a better position.

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Probably doesn't hurt to have quite a few guys looking for next deal and will be interesting to see how much money they look for going forward.
Skate hard and wait for other team to screw up seems like way too easy of a game plan. 
I don't care, there's no way this VGK team is this good.

They'll come back to earth.  Nobody punches this far above their weight all season.

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Skate hard and wait for other team to screw up seems like way too easy of a game plan. 
I don't care, there's no way this VGK team is this good.

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The leafs are terrible inept in their own end, I don't know how there can be an opponent alone in front on pretty much every shift of the game?

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: December 31, 2017, 10:01:28 AM »
Dear Teams

Please send me offers of a young goal scorer that you would be willing to trade me for my not so young player who doesn't seem to be able to score.

Thanks
Bergevin

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It's used in "winter".
Seeing this is the AZ game thread I'll give you a laugh and tell you that there is an indoor soccer facility in the Phoenix area. 
-35 tonight in Ottawa.  That's with the windchill.  Without the windchill, it's only -20.  I am supposed to go play indoor soccer.  Something feels wrong about the whole scenario.

They need it in the summer when it takes 5 minutes to melt in the sun!

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Seeing this is the AZ game thread I'll give you a laugh and tell you that there is an indoor soccer facility in the Phoenix area. 
-35 tonight in Ottawa.  That's with the windchill.  Without the windchill, it's only -20.  I am supposed to go play indoor soccer.  Something feels wrong about the whole scenario.

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