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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 19, 2018, 08:43:58 PM »

 Wow! I had expected a little more than a 4th.
Me too!  Why do our Leafs always get screwed when trading with the Blues?  Why???

What did you expect for an oft injured soon to be 25 year old winger with 14 points in 70 career NHL games? The Leafs were never getting more than a 4th for him. That's exactly what his value on the trade market was.

Unless they had waited until deadline day — then all kinds of circumstances might drive up the price.  Why trade him before then?
I thought this had been quite clear already.  Soshnikov had it in his contract that he had to be playing at the NHL level by a certain date, otherwise he could return to Russia.  That date had already passed.  The only thing the Leafs could have done would have been to demote Kapanen but they didn't want to do that for obvious reasons.  So their hands were tied.  They had no choice but to trade Soshnikov, and the other teams knew that.  Actually the fourth rounder is a pretty good return in light of all that.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 19, 2018, 05:27:56 PM »
So what's wrong with Dominic Moore again?  And what kind of upgrade would Glendening be?  I can understand the Leafs wanting to upgrade, but at least do it right.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:45:17 PM »
So Donaldson is not signing here and he expects to be a free agent in August.  Hopefully the Jays can get something for him at the trade deadline.  If not they will at least get a compensatory draft pick.  I think with Guererro Junior coming up it kind of makes sense to let Donaldson walk.  Too bad.  He's an outstanding player.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 18, 2018, 04:42:07 PM »
For you guys complaining about this deal, the Leafs had their backs against the wall and were in a roster crunch.  Soshnikov was saying he was going to go back to Russia if the Leafs didn't play him.  In fact I think he was pretty patient and even waited longer than he initially said he would.  The other teams knew the Leafs were in this situation and they acted accordingly.

Is a fourth round draft pick enough of a return for Soshnikov?  Probably not.  Ideally they would have gotten at least a third rounder for him.  But when you look at it from the standpoint that they could have lost him to Russia for nothing, the Leafs came out okay, and they gave the player a nice opportunity in another organization.

I liked the intensity Soshnikov played with, he reminded me a lot of Zach Hyman.  However he was too low on the depth chart and I'm happy we at least got something for him.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Leivo now.

I actually only remember seeing Sosh say the opposite. Do you have a quote?
Have a look here:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/leafs-recall-soshnikov-avoid-russian-loophole-1.4401340

Soshnikov was very patient.  That article is from November.  I'm glad things worked out for him, and that the Leafs at least got something for him.

All of that being said, Soshnikov never directly said he would go back to Russia.  It was simply a clause in his contract.  This is what he actually said:

“I have conversations with most of my players on a daily basis so we discuss the different possibilities, but Nikita wants to play in the NHL. He came to North America a few years back fully understanding and knowing it would not be easy, it would be hard,” Milstein said. “He gave up his KHL career and came here to try and play for the Toronto Maple Leafs and go through the American Hockey League system.

“He’s a true warrior. If he wanted to go back to Russia he could have, but there’s a reason he’s been working so hard here.”

From here:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/soshnikovs-agent-nikita-earned-right-nhl/

He handled it like a true professional.  Anyhow that's probably where the confusion comes from.

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Like, our playoff spot is basically 100% guaranteed. Why not just try it for a week or two?

If they don't make the playoffs, I'm coming back to this post.
For the time being his comments are insignificant.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« on: February 18, 2018, 01:36:25 PM »
It's sad to see Lawrie go out the way he did.  I would have rathered him over Solarte or Diaz as our infield backup.  He would have been a fan favorite here.  It must be injuries.  He's a very talented player.

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I honestly feel that the game last night could have gone either way.  The Leafs had multiple glorious scoring chances that they missed.  Hyman got robbed on an open net, and Matthews missed the net on one play.  There were numerous other golden chances like that where they missed also.  Then there was the dump out play that Don Cherry talked about, and that shot from the point was kind of fluky.

Hopefully the Leafs can pull out a win today.  I'm super impressed with how well they have played against the league's top teams lately.  They are looking like the team we saw at the beginning of the season again.  Cup contenders.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 18, 2018, 11:56:38 AM »
For you guys complaining about this deal, the Leafs had their backs against the wall and were in a roster crunch.  Soshnikov was saying he was going to go back to Russia if the Leafs didn't play him.  In fact I think he was pretty patient and even waited longer than he initially said he would.  The other teams knew the Leafs were in this situation and they acted accordingly.

Is a fourth round draft pick enough of a return for Soshnikov?  Probably not.  Ideally they would have gotten at least a third rounder for him.  But when you look at it from the standpoint that they could have lost him to Russia for nothing, the Leafs came out okay, and they gave the player a nice opportunity in another organization.

I liked the intensity Soshnikov played with, he reminded me a lot of Zach Hyman.  However he was too low on the depth chart and I'm happy we at least got something for him.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Leivo now.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 17, 2018, 02:15:03 PM »
You've got to have a guy like Martin on the team despite how much the NHL has changed. 

Why?
Protection for guys like Auston Matthews.  Just ask Mats Sundin what he thinks of Tie Domi.

So Martin’s presence in the press box will have an impact on whether the other team finishes their check against Matthews?

I know this was a popular line of thinking in the Don Cherry / Bobby Orr years, but I didnt think anyone still thought this way.
Things can still get out of hand in an NHL game and sometimes a guy like Martin is useful, is all I'm saying.  Against a team like Boston, for example.  You don't want Marchand running around doing whatever he wants out there.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 17, 2018, 11:51:31 AM »
You've got to have a guy like Martin on the team despite how much the NHL has changed. 

Why?
Protection for guys like Auston Matthews.  Just ask Mats Sundin what he thinks of Tie Domi.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 17, 2018, 11:31:13 AM »
I personally think Leivo is good depth, and the team will need him next year when someone inevitably leaves the organization.  At this point I don't think the Leafs should do much unless a very good deal comes along.  They don't have any glaring weaknesses IMO, and really when the team has just gone 9-1, even beating teams like Tampa Bay, Columbus, and Nashville, should you really change anything?

I hear a lot of flak about Polak, Komarov, and Martin, and while a lot of that is perfectly justified, those guys still play an important role on the team and they are good depth and good pieces to have in the playoffs.  Komarov is an elite penalty killer and I don't think he's as bad as everyone says he is.  He is a prototypical fourth line player and I have no issue with him playing that role on this team.  You've got to have a guy like Martin on the team despite how much the NHL has changed.  And Polak, well, of those three guys I like him the least because he's too slow and I find him a defensive liability.  So if they get rid of anyone I think it should be him, and perhaps make a deal for an upgrade on defense.  But even with that being said, Polak isn't *that* bad, particularly if he's being used as a seventh defenseman.

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Man, Polak showed him his bare fist. He'd better be careful.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Seattle Expansion: Protection List
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:23:53 PM »
The NHL is coo-coo for Coco-puffs.  They should be expanding to Quebec.  I like a lot of what Gary Bettman has done, but losing the Quebec City franchise hurts.  Plus we could easily support another team in Southern Ontario.

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Here's a good article that came out today on Morgan Rielly and how he's established himself as a true #1 defenceman this season:

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So what is Morgan Rielly? Well, he’s a defenceman who:

Leads his team in Controlled Zone Exits
Is above league average at preventing Controlled Zone Entries
Outshoots the opposition when he’s on the ice
Is on pace for over 50 Points
Does all this while facing extremely difficult competition

There’s only one other defenceman in the NHL who meets these criteria. His name is Drew Doughty.

If Rielly can keep playing at the level he has this season, I don’t think the Leafs don’t need to go looking for a #1 defenceman – they’ve found him.

https://mapleleafsnation.com/2018/02/14/morgan-riellys-evolution-into-a-1-defenceman/

You can go back and look at some of my posts from last season where I expressed doubt about whether Rielly could take another step forward in his play, but he's certainly proven me wrong this season. I think the team can still use a pretty big upgrade in the top-4 on the right side but I don't know if it really HAS to be a Doughty or Karlsson type player.

Umm.  That statement makes doesn't make no sense at all.
I find your post insignificant, actually.  :P

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 04, 2018, 03:24:51 PM »
The Leafs are in a good position this trade deadline.  If they do nothing, fine.  But if Lamoriello gets some offers he can't refuse, he will take them.  If they can get a first round pick for JVR I think they will do it.  A second rounder for Bozak would be nice also.  Then if they can offload Komarov and Martin they will have room for the young guys in their system who aren't playing right now.  It looks like the Leafs are going to get a nice boost internally on Defense with Holl, Dermott, and Liljegren.  So things look good for next season.  If the Leafs make some noise this year in the playoffs, great.  I just don't see them as contenders yet.  Next season maybe.

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