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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: John Tavares is a Maple Leaf
« on: July 16, 2018, 01:07:56 PM »
The best part of that letter was: 'I have a special connection with this franchise that you will never understand.'  ???

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM
« on: July 09, 2018, 06:41:42 PM »
The Leafs will raise the cap themselves by being awesome.

As ridiculous as that may sound there's truth to it. No question, the NHL makes more when the Leafs are competitive. If the cap is $80M and the cap is determined by 57% of league revenues then league revenues equals $80M / 57% x 31 teams = $4.35B? Can anyone confirm the league revenue figure?

So if the Leafs want to move the cap themselves by $6M to pay for a Nylander it would require $326M more in revenues [(6M x 31 teams)/57%].

If you want to raise the cap, I would suggest perhaps adding an expansion team, and then have it be really successful immediately. And then maybe add another in a couple of years.

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: July 01, 2018, 12:22:00 PM »
Tavares to sign with the Leafs??? Say it ain't so!!!

I really just posted this to see my sig.  :P

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: June 29, 2018, 06:58:00 PM »
I don’t get this ‘getting harassed in the streets’ mentality. And whatever restaurants they go to I sure as hell cant afford.

Well, sure, but I don't think anyone was accusing you of harassing these guys. But they do go out into the world. And the most famous guys on the Leafs are pretty recognizable. Especially if, as is frequently mentioned, they're going to start doing a lot of commercial work to capitalize on the fame.

That said, I don't think it's really an issue of being harassed on the streets. To be honest I'm not really sure who said that was a thing.

When I lived in Portland (OR) my wife and I had dinner one night 2 tables over from Robert Redford. Not a single person approached the table in the couple of hours we were there. Unless you're in LA - where people call their PR people to let them know where they'll be, rather than attempt to be anonymous - I'm not sure celebrity mugging is much of a thing.

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: June 28, 2018, 09:16:16 PM »
Props to RedLeaf for being way ahead of this one all the way back in 2014:

I don't know if it merits its own thread or not, but according to James Mirtle (@mirtle) via Twitter:

Hearing the Leafs will add Wes Clark to their hockey ops team. He's currently director of player development for the Soo Greyhounds.

Clark has worked training elite hockey players for a long time, including John Tavares. Will likely help Leafs develop their picks.

Here's some links on him:

I am honestly surprised that it took this long.

Can his friendship with Tavares help to lure John to Toronto? Wishful thinking, huh?

I think I'm more impressed with you finding that quote. No offense, RedLeaf.  :P

Why the eggplant emoji?

Its replaced the banana as the go to Phallic emoji.

I thought it was maybe a True Romance reference.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
« on: May 25, 2018, 09:21:44 PM »
What are the chances Sparks is our backup next season? I just can't figure out whether he's for real, or whether he's a AHL lifer sort of guy. My heart tells me AHL lifer, but he's certainly been tearing up the AHL.

I honestly think the whole thing with Dubas is either going to go really well or else really badly. It's a real trial by fire for him. He's either going to sink or swim. We'll see. I am cautiously optimistic personally. His stat knowledge is impressive. But there is something to be said for Lou's years of experience running a team. Things like trades and negotiations worry me somewhat with Dubas. We'll see. I was not happy with what Lou did at the end of this season. He should have stocked assets.

It's got to be either one or the other.  Unless the Leafs are just mediocre, which I suppose will be viewed as "really bad".  The problem is, especially with the draft strategy, you need a bit of time and distance to appreciate picks made outside the first round.  You can see that from people tying to evaluate Hunter's draft record.  Outside of the first round picks (and Dermott in round 2), we haven't seen any breakthroughs on the players that Hunter decided on.  Does that mean he did a piss poor job in drafting?  For now it appears that way, but  maybe a few of the players picked later make contributions next season or the year after and we look back and realize Hunter actually did a fairly good job.  The same will apply to Dubas.  People will want to see changes right away, but often times it doesn't work that fast. 

I guess the immediate changes he could make to improve the team for next season is the subtraction of guys like Martin, Komarov, Polak and the Leafs promote from within to give some speedy Marlies a shot.  It'll be interesting to see if he pulls off any signing or trades for players we might not expect who are currently undervalued by the NHL.

The market is going to want to see results fast.  This team had 105 points this season, but lost in round 1.  That's not going to cut it for this upcoming season.  If the team doesn't progress past round 1 again, it'll be viewed as a huge failure and the stories will begin that Dubas didn't do enough to improve the Leafs.  Man he's got a tough job.
The big question is, how are they going to replace JVR's 40 goals? Not to mention Bozak.

It's a matter of scoring more by committee.  Instead of one player getting 36 goals (JVR), let's say Matthews and Nylander each get more PP time and they score 7-8 goals each more than they would have otherwise. 

Matthews +8
Nylander +7
15 extra goals

Then you hope that guys like Johnsson and Kapanen can get 10-15 each?
Johnsson + 13
Kapanen + 12
25 extra goals

Martin and Komarov only combined for 10 goals on the season, replace them with guys that might score 8-10 each, and you have an additional 16-20 goals.

The math can add up with better players on each line.

I'm not so sure they need to replace all of JVR's goals. A 20-goal scorer is just fine if it's someone who is less of a defensive liability.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Lou Will Not Return
« on: May 22, 2018, 10:30:45 PM »
So I have come to the conclusion that this is a ruthless forum. You guys like arguing and debating endlessly. The place is largely unmoderated. I'm not used to it. But I will try to stay and adapt. We'll see.

Well, you got part of it right, at least.

With respect to being unmoderated, I'd  imagine it's a rare thread that Carlton (to name one individual) hasn't read and taken appropriate action when needed. And ruthless? I'm not seeing it.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
« on: May 10, 2018, 08:02:34 PM »
Alex Lyon stops 94-95 shots in this game (and LOSES!!!!).  To bad he is property of Phili


The guy that stopped 94 of 95 won, the other dude stopped 51 of 53 and lost.
And that's why I was wondering why LuncheonMeat put loses in there.


Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
« on: May 10, 2018, 12:34:53 PM »
Alex Lyon stops 94-95 shots in this game (and LOSES!!!!).  To bad he is property of Phili


I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with everything that Frank wrote.

Do your duty and delete his post, and we'll all pretend you didn't write that.

If the Leafs D can continue to initiate passes rather than using the boards and the forwards keep moving on, and Andersen excels again -- basically replicating the good works they all put in for Games 5 & 6 -- even with Boston having the line change advantage, the Leafs should be able to eke out the win.

No expectations but for the sake of breaking the losing-to-Boston-in the -playoffs-again 'curse', it would do well for Toronto to emerge victorious.


Some pretty good observations here:

Assuming you consider a paywall good observations.

Our boy barney_rebel finished the Boston Marathon in 3:24:14...

He stinks, dude.  :-X

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I might welcome Matt Martin back in the lineup for game 3.  :-\

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