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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Useless Thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 02:33:32 PM »
Half the men fail? I'm sure the number is much lower than that, but that's call survival of the fittest, and it's a good thing for the species (from a purely biological perspective, at least - it's large part in what drives evolution). Also, women only go for high status men? That's going to news to a lot of people I know.

You really want to help these guys who are sad they can't find women to sleep with? Legalize sex work and do the work to remove the stigma attached to it. Give them an out where both parties receive some sort of benefit. This enforced monogamy BS is basically slavery.

The safety improvements to legalized sex work is the biggest thing for me.  It fixes a large part of the concern around sex trafficking.  It diminishes the risks of STIs to both johns and sex workers.  It diminishes the risks of drug culture in the sex industry.  There really isn't a very good argument for not legalizing it.

If it quiets down the "Incel" culture, I'm good with that too but I'm having a hard time being overly sympathetic toward a mindset that wants to mandate relationships.  It's pretty absurd.

On a legislative level, yeah, I agree with that course.

That's not going to solve the incel problem though, because their real issue isn't access to sex -- it's the objectification of women, it's having power over another, it's the culture of winning the woman (and the right to use her body) as an achievement.

edit: i.e. what Nik said.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Useless Thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 02:08:38 PM »

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Useless Thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:54:05 PM »
I think, at least in Peterson's case, that people are always going to gravitate towards things that reinforce whatever world views they already hold(even if they're unarticulated). Especially if they can cloak it in a vague sheen of academia.

I think that's correct. I also would've gone with vague veneer.

I was sent a podcast interview of Shapiro with Peterson, and Peterson brought up that same fact of life: people cling to their 'axiomatic' beliefs and will defend it irrespective of facts to the contrary (see the Backfire Effect).

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Useless Thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:46:27 PM »
On the other hand, I saw this video and it made me smile. Aforementioned family member thinks I'm a leftist extremist.


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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Useless Thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:37:54 PM »
I have a family member who is more conservative leaning (and very much not an idiot) and is really amenable to Peterson and Shapiro and the like, and I too, do not know why.

I guess it's because they are articulate? and really into maintaining the status quo?

We had a good row about that Google doofus' manifesto too.

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https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/5/17/17365400/maple-leafs-sign-four-players-to-elcs-pierre-engvall-jesper-lindgren-igor-ozhiganov-par-lindholm

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Igor Ozhiganov
Ozhiganov is a 25-year-old Russian, right-shooting defender, who has spent a lot of time not playing for CSKA in the KHL. The team is a top-ranked team and they went all the way to the final this year, losing to Ak Bars Kazan.

Ozhiganov has been a surplus player all season, and heís been used primarily as a fourth-unit defender, playing defensive minutes or running out the clock in blowouts. He saw action mostly against lesser teams, and when the playoffs game, he saw mostly the view from up in the stands.

You will hear that CSKA played former Leafs defender Alexei Marchenko ahead of him, and thatís true, but not the whole story.


He does not seem to be a player who produces personal offence. How he plays defensively is difficult to assess from afar. The KHL does not breakdown time on ice by game state, and there is no shot data for that league. All that can be used to assess Ozhiganovís play is his personal shot rate, his plus/minus or his points.

By those measures... well, he has a great plus/minus considering his usage. Weíll know when training camp comes, what we have here.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: May 17, 2018, 03:21:52 PM »
I agree in principle, but that's kind of the situation we've been put into with the lottery win and Lamoriello's build philosophy. Internal expectations are also part of that picture. Are we not nearly at critical mass for high end talent?

Setting all of that aside, what moves could Dubas be making to funnel more high end talent into the fold? Even stripping out all of our spare parts, this core is, at its baseline of play, pretty comfortably at the edge or in the playoffs.

Sure and if you want to say that they should go with the best or least-bad option I don't necessarily disagree. I wouldn't even argue that it's doomed or anything. A good trade or two, some real development from Dermott and Liljegren(or others within the system) and Freddy getting hot at the right time and who knows? They won't be the Blackhawks or Penguins but they can probably be the 2011 Bruins or 2006 Canes. They absolutely can build a team with a puncher's chance.

Which is what some of us wanted to avoid.  I would argue that trading for Freddy is when the writing was on the wall that the plan had been accelerated.  Maybe though they didn't think they would be this good this soon.  Hard to say, but if you look at the moves after that, I think they went in to a win now mode, and that it was a bit too soon to do so.

I would characterize it more as, let's see how far this group goes (i.e. JvR), rather than an outright win-now. Win-now would've been spinning Nylander off for Tanev or something equally stupid. They really only made short-term gambles of generally doing not much other than delaying the rise of the (other) children.

Anyway, my question is less what we should've have done, and more what can we do now.

I don't think we're up the creek without Tavares, but I also don't think getting him would significantly derail our future either.

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Engvall: yay! needs to continue to work on skating and gaining the confidence to assert himself in the middle ice.

Lindgren: I wasn't sure he'd be signed, but he's an RHD and Grundstrom's best friend, so there are good reasons to keep him in the fold with so many contract slots opening up.

Lindholm: Everything I've heard points to him being a steady defensive centre who can PK and occasionally make a sweet pass.

Ozhiganov: Basically a meaner, more defensive Alexey Marchenko from what I've read.
This is last year's read on him: http://faceoffcircle.ca/2017/08/23/igor-ozhiganov-good-add-leafs-organization/

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: May 17, 2018, 01:07:47 PM »
Well, I think the obvious point there is that an impatient fan base shouldn't be a key factor in team building.

I agree in principle, but that's kind of the situation we've been put into with the lottery win and Lamoriello's build philosophy. Internal expectations are also part of that picture. Are we not nearly at critical mass for high end talent?

Setting all of that aside, what moves could Dubas be making to funnel more high end talent into the fold? Even stripping out all of our spare parts, this core is, at its baseline of play, pretty comfortably at the edge or in the playoffs.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: May 17, 2018, 12:27:16 PM »
I think thatís the right read, Nik. Theyíre only going to make a big fish trade if the piece coming back is as much (if not more) of a needle mover. Otherwise, itís all about nipping at the fringes of other rosters for underutilized talent.

This is why I lean towards trying your darndest to land Tavares if he is even a bit open to coming here. Pile all the cap allotment in him, the big 3 and the next layer of high value commitments at moderate hits, and use the remainder for filling the wings and depth defense with cheap Marlies that will eventually be traded for assets.

If Tavares goes somewhere else, and no shutdowny centre comes in, then itís Willy time, and you flesh out the wings to support Matthews and Nylanderís respective deficiencies accordingly.

I think where we agree is that I think that may very well be their best plan to improve the team immediately.  Where we disagree is I don't think that's a very good plan for building a team that can become one of the clubs that separates themselves from the pack.

Given where we already are and the lack of patience in the fan base for building further from within via top-5 picks, what would be a better plan going forward for greater separation?

Forward depth is the area we can really stand out with.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: May 17, 2018, 11:40:14 AM »
What that means is, I'm looking for a 20-24 year old 3rd pairing defender that can skate out of trouble, make an accurate pass, and aggressively break up plays on a carrier, but who doesn't necessarily put up points. In stats terms, that means high relative CF%, low CA60, don't care about iCF but where the iFF is a higher proportion of the overall iCF (which means he can get shots through).

So a good skating, smart decision making, good passing and reasonably good shooting defenseman who can't put up points?

Haha hasnít had the opportunity to put up points yet due to opportunity or playing only with garbage forwards.

I.e. doesnít need to score it himself

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: May 17, 2018, 10:36:51 AM »
So, I'm a big proponent of offense = effective defense.

That being said, I also feel there is a huge belief among hockey management groups that 50+ pt defenders are ones who need 7M+ and they are highly valuable and sought after (sup, Dion Phaneuf?).

I also believe that trying to score from the point regularly (a la Brent Burns, Shea Weber) is basically the NHL version of the long two-pointer in basketball: it is depressingly inefficient. On a team like the Leafs, that's taking the puck away from your actual firepower (Matthews, Nylander, Kadri), so they really only use the point shot for deliberate high tips, rebounds, and to keep goaltenders occasionally honest by bringing their shot down to the top of the circle.

What that means is, I'm looking for a 20-24 year old 3rd pairing defender that can skate out of trouble, make an accurate pass, and aggressively break up plays on a carrier, but who doesn't necessarily put up points. In stats terms, that means high relative CF%, low CA60, don't care about iCF but where the iFF is a higher proportion of the overall iCF (which means he can get shots through).

It also means I'm willing to ship out one of Rielly/Gardiner for a king's ransom because Dermott could make them surplus to needs for a fraction of the cost. I kind of want to keep Gardiner over Rielly too, because of the CA60 difference, but salary considerations and age might flip that around.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official Movie Thread
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:10:35 AM »

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2018 NHL Playoffs / Re: Jets (C2) vs. Golden Knights (P1)
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:09:23 AM »
Apparently fast, always attacking hockey is both effective and entertaining.

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