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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Roy Halladay dies in Plane Crash
« on: November 07, 2017, 04:17:58 PM »

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/former-blue-jays-pitcher-roy-halladay-dead-plane-crash//

Well, I'm gutted. Obviously feel terrible for his family. One of the greats.

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General NHL News & Views / Scoring Records and Modern Contexts
« on: October 19, 2017, 08:38:10 AM »

So here's what I think is(hopefully anyway) an interesting question that came out of a discussion of Baseball and it's home run record and what standard should be used for modern players.

Basically, I wonder what goal and point totals people think would constitute a modern player putting together a season that was as good or better than any other scoring seasons in history. Obviously the game has changed so much since Lemieux and Gretzky's heyday that while those totals are undeniably impressive, they're not really fair standards to hold the likes of Crosby and his eventual successors to. Gretzky was great, obviously, but he wasn't twice as good as Crosby at his best.

To get a clue, a useful tool is adjusting points for the level of league scoring. Hockey Reference's adjusted point totals adjusts Gretzky's best ever goal total to 69 and his highest ever point total to 170 and Lemieux's to 71 and 165. Brett Hull's 86 goal season adjusts to 78 goals which is the highest total I can find(Ovechkin's best clocks in at 72).

So what would a modern player have to do to have the most impressive scoring season of all time? Personally, I think 70ish goals and 150-160 points would do it. Basically a step or two better than Crosby was in 2010-2011 but over the course of a full season.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Doug Gilmour
« on: October 10, 2017, 12:47:55 PM »
Dougie has a book coming out. Here's a fun factoid from it about his leaving the team:

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I told Cliff I wanted to play for a team that really wanted me. One with good management and good coaches, and a chance to win the Stanley Cup. I also told him I wanted to play somewhere in the States, but close to Toronto. After spending so much time away from home for so many years, I hadn’t had the chance to be the kind of father I wanted to be to Maddie. Now, with a new young family and Maddie close by, I didn’t want to jeopardize that again.

In hindsight, my request probably cost the Leafs the best deal they could have made for me. Cliff told me which teams were interested, and the first one was Vancouver. The Canucks’ general manager, Pat Quinn—Cliff ’s old friend—was considering sending young prospect Markus Naslund to Toronto for me.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/book-excerpt-doug-gilmour-explains-rejected-trade-canucks/

Oof. Naslund on Sundin's wing would have been nice.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Marincin on waivers
« on: October 05, 2017, 12:04:35 PM »


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General NHL News & Views / Season Prediction Thread
« on: October 04, 2017, 10:24:00 AM »

You all know how this goes.

West

1. Edmonton
2. Nashville
3. Anaheim
4. Calgary
5. Chicago
6. Dallas
7. San Jose
8. Minnesota
9. St. Louis
10. Los Angeles
11. Arizona
12. Winnipeg
13. Vancouver
14. Colorado
15. Vegas

East

1. Pittsburgh
2. Tampa
3. Washington
4. Florida
5. Toronto
6. Montreal
7. Columbus
8. Philly
9. NYR
10. Ottawa
11. NYI
12. Carolina
13. Buffalo
14. Boston
15. New Jersey
16. Detroit

Cup Pick: Tampa over Edmonton
Awards: Connor McDavid for all of them. Norris, Adams, the lot.

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Sounds like an Eichel extension is just about done. Mckenzie saying it's in the 10 per range.

So, you know, that seems pretty relevant to Auston.

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General NHL News & Views / 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: September 06, 2017, 12:56:18 PM »

Hockey has principles now.

https://www.nhl.com/info/nhl-declaration-of-principles

Interestingly enough "Sometimes, if your team needs a boost, you should agree to a fistfight with a guy on the other team" isn't one of them.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Minor Ex-Leaf News
« on: August 28, 2017, 12:07:12 PM »

Figured there should be a spot for minor stuff that didn't need its own thread. So, for instance:

The Flyers will be retiring Lindros' 88:

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flyers-to-retire-no-88-jersey-of-eric-lindros--philadelphia-flyers/c-290779804

I guess it's nice to see him having patched things up with Philly but man, looking back on that, they treated him badly.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Tavares
« on: August 23, 2017, 10:10:15 AM »

I put this up not in the hopes that we in any way replicate the Stamkos thread but just because I'm guessing we're going to hear a lot of speculation about the possibility until Tavares signs an extension.

That said...nobody would really think it's a good idea, right? The Stamkos situation pretty much drove a stake into the heart of the idea that someone like that would take a huge discount to play for the Leafs so just from a dollars standpoint it makes almost no sense unless you follow it up with trading one of MNM and even then, all due respect to Tavares, I'd rather take their growth potential.

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NHL Transactions / Draisaitl's New Deal, 8 yrs/8.5 aav
« on: August 16, 2017, 02:07:30 PM »



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All Sports But Hockey / 5 Favourite Athletes
« on: July 30, 2017, 02:29:54 PM »
So this was going around Twitter and thought it'd be a fun off-season thing to kick around:


So here are mine:

1. Cal Ripken
2. Mats Sundin
3. Lebron James
4. Mario Lemieux
5. Roy Halladay

The fifth spot was tough. Wendel/Hasek/Potvin/Pudge/Bolt all considered.

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General NHL News & Views / The NHL's Dead Era
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:09:32 PM »
So this is more of a half-formed idea than anything but the mediocre-ness of the HOF class as well as the absence of any real OGWAC to root for in this year's finals I thought I'd look back 20 or so years to look at why there doesn't really seem to be any iconic older players in the NHL right now(absent Jagr who I think started playing in 1976).

Basically, if you look at the '94 to '02 drafts and try to work out who in those classes might be HOFers you get a pretty bleak picture. I've divided it into these categories:

Definitely: Iginla, Thornton, Datsyuk, Chara
Probably: The Sedins, Hossa, Alfredsson, Zetterberg
Maybe: Marleau, Doan, Nash, Lecavalier, Richards, Elias

Now, are any of these guys icons? Combined among those 15 guys are only 7 cup winners(winning a total of 13 cups, 8 for Hossa/Elias/Datsyuk). There are only 2 Hart trophies there and both of those were questionable choices, there are 2 Lindsays, 2 Conn Smythes, 4 Richards and 1 Norris. Combined, those 15 only had 9 NHL first team all-star selections. For the most part they were either the best players on teams that didn't win or sidekicks on teams that did.

So I guess my question with all of this is...what happened? Is there some kind of Malcolm Gladwell-esque explanation as to why this almost decade long period of hockey seems so lacking in greats? Is it concussions? The lockouts? I know there was a lot of talk around that time about how Canadian hockey needed to re-emphasize skill but it's not like other nations dominated(Sweden probably fares the best on that list but still...). I sort of have a half-baked theory on why that is but it doesn't really answer the major question.

Anyways, just something I'm thinking about.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Hainsey to Leafs [2 years, $3.0mil AAV]
« on: July 01, 2017, 11:24:34 AM »

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General NHL News & Views / Selanne(and others) elected to HHOF
« on: June 26, 2017, 03:11:06 PM »

The others being Mark Recchi, Paul Kariya and Dave Andreychuk on the NHL side of things.

No Almo(who in his prime I'd take over all of the inductees other than Teemu) or CuJo but good on Dave.

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General NHL News & Views / Sidney Crosby and History
« on: May 26, 2017, 12:16:03 PM »

So here's an idle thing to kick around on a boring day. Now that he's reached a 4th cup final in a cap era and suffered through some more health stuff, is it time to start thinking of Crosby from a historical perspective? Obviously he could still have a ton of hockey left but can we begin to wrap our heads around him in the GOAT conversation?

So, for me, he's definitely with the holy trinity of Gretzky/Lemieux/Orr. But after that? I think still behind Gordie and, with the caveat that it's an impossible comparison, Hasek. After that? I don't know. I think he's definitely in the top 10, maybe top 7.

I don't have a set definition for these things but this right now is probably my Crosby-free top 10:

1. Lemieux
2. Gretzky
3. Orr
4. Hasek
5. Howe
6. Jagr
7. Lidstrom
8. Sakic
9. Beliveau
10. Bobby Hull

Again, with only half a career it's tough to judge these things but keeping era-relative scoring in mind...I think Crosby is up there in the Sakic mix at least.

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