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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Leafs worst 1st round pick
« on: November 16, 2017, 10:53:45 AM »
I stumbled across an article that listed Tyler Biggs as the Leafs biggest draft bust.  The criteria they used for saying this is the following:

"The 2011 draft was a huge low point, when the Buds squandered two first round picks on Stuart Percy (25th overall) and Tyler Biggs (22nd overall). Percy has at least played 12 games at the NHL level, while Biggs is gone from the Maple Leafs system and is in the ECHL as a free agent. In the Brian Burke “truculence” era, Biggs was square in Burke’s sights at the ’11 event, coming in at 6’2″ and 220 lbs. Unfortunately, Biggs was a bust in the AHL with the Marlies and was eventually sent to the ECHL’s Orlando Solar Bears in 2015 before being included in the Phil Kessel trade to Pittsburgh."

That got me looking through the Leafs draft history and seeing if I could find someone who would be considered more of a bust then Biggs.  See the thing is, I think that while Biggs didn't amount to much, you have to take other things in to consideration, such as draft position and who else was available.  There were better options than Biggs at the time of the draft, and I believe several brought that up at the time, so maybe you feel he is the biggest bust as well.  Here's a list of the Leafs first round picks over the years, and what they accomplished in the NHL.  Obviously some of these are not going to be in the conversation because they were really good picks, but I thought I would include them all as a nice walk down memory lane. 

Year   Position   Player   Games Played   Points
2017   17th Overall   Timothy Liljegren    0   0
2016   1st Overall   Auston Matthews    98   88
2015   4th Overall   Mitch Marner    96   76
2014   8th Overall   William Nylander    122   87
2013   21st Overall   Frederic Gauthier    28   4
2012   5th Overall   Morgan Reilly    331   135
2011   22nd Overall   Tyler Biggs    0   0
2011   25th Overall   Stuart Percy    12   3
2009   7th Overall   Nazem Kadri    427   274
2008   5th Overall   Luke Schenn    664   138
2006   13th Overall   Jiri Tlusty    446   177
2005   21st Overall   Tukka Rask    407   9
2002   24th Overall   Alexander Steen    835   540
2001   17th Overall   Carlo Colaiacovo    470   157
2000   24th Overall   Brad Boyes    822   505
1999   24th Overall   Luca Cereda    0   0
1998   10th Overall   Nikolai Antropov    788   465
1995   15th Overall   Jeff Ware    21   1
1994   16th Overall   Eric Fichaud    95   1
1993   12th Overall   Kenny Jonsson    686   267
1993   19th Overall   Landon Wilson    375   119
1992   8th Overall   Brandon Convery    72   28
1992   23rd Overall   Grant Marshall    700   239
1990   10th Overall   Drake Berehowsky    549   149
1989   3rd Overall   Scott Thorton    941   285
1989   12th Overall   Rob Pearson    269   110
1989   21st Overall   Steve Bancroft    6   1
1988   6th Overall   Scott Pearson    292   98
1987   7th Overall   Luke Richardson    1417   201
1986   6th Overall   Vincent Damphousse    1378   1205
1985   1st Overall   Wendel Clark    793   564
1984   4th Overall   Al Iafrate    799   463
1983   7th Overall   Russ Courtnall    1029   744
1982   3rd Overall   Gary Nylund    608   171
1981   6th Overall   Jim Benning    610   243
1979   9th Overall   Laurie Boschman    1009   577
1977   11th Overall   John Andersen    814   631
1977   12th Overall   Trevor Johansen    286   57
1975   6th Overall   Dan Ashby    188   96
1974   13th Overall   Jack Valiquette    350   218
1973   4th Overall   Lanny McDonald    1111   1006
1973   10th Overall   Bob McNeely    283   98
1973   15th Overall   Ian Turnbull    628   440
1972   11th Overall   George Ferguson    797   398
1970   8th Overall   Daryl Sittler    1096   1121
1969   9th Overall   Ernie Moser    0   0
1968   10th Overall   Brad Selwood    163   47
1966   4th Overall   John Wright    127   52
1964   5th Overall   Tom Martin    3   1
1963   6th Overall   Walt McKechnie    955   606

So for me, it's 1988's Scott Pearson (sorry Scott).  I feel that with a 6th overall pick, you should get a pretty good player.  I think I read somewhere that the Leafs reached on him in that draft, which I think is supported by the fact that the next 4 players taken in that draft were Martin Gelinas, Jeremy Roenick, Rod Brind'Amour, and Teemu Selanne.   

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NHL Transactions / Tomas Jurco to Blackhawks for 3rd round pick
« on: February 24, 2017, 05:04:41 PM »

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/

Just sad.  Whether through joking or whatever, they completely corrupted the program in no time flat.

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NHL Transactions / Devante Smith-Pelly to New Jersey
« on: February 29, 2016, 03:34:56 PM »
For Stefan Matteau

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NHL Transactions / Shane Prince to Islanders
« on: February 29, 2016, 03:11:06 PM »
Senators have sent Shane Prince and 7th in 2016 to Islanders for a third in 2016.

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NHL Transactions / Brandon Pirri to Anahiem
« on: February 29, 2016, 02:25:34 PM »
For a 6th.  From Florida.

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NHL Transactions / Eric Gelinas to Colorado
« on: February 29, 2016, 01:45:36 PM »
For a third.

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General NHL News & Views / Habs suffer twitter fail
« on: February 24, 2016, 10:14:38 AM »
Ah the internet.  Clearly this campaign was designed by someone who still had faith in the human race.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2536730/montreal-canadiens-automated-twitter-campaign-backfires/

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Tie Domi's book
« on: November 04, 2015, 12:56:58 PM »
So Tie put out a book.  One article said that one of the problems with it is he doesn't name names.  Like in this excerpt:

"There are some other good bits, but in the book Domi has an annoying habit of not providing names. For example, he talks about the last year of his career in 2005-06 and how he said a player who was a free agent came to his house to have Domi help him get signed by the Toronto Maple Leafs. He then goes on to write about how the player began acting out, “like he couldn’t take the pressure…and eventually things came to a head at a team meeting. This guys stood up in front of the team and started criticizing the guys around him. He talked as though he was untouchable and knew all the answers, and acted as though everyone else was the problem. We were stunned, and he just kept going on and on. A lot of my teammates were staring at me in shock. It was the first time Mats (Sundin) ever looked at me as if to say, ‘Do something. Now.’ When I saw that, I snapped.
“ ‘Hey,’ I yelled. ‘Why don’t you shut the hell up? If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say it. We don’t need any negative B.S. right now. I don’t know what kind of leadership you learned on other teams, because you don’t have any.’ ”
Prior to that season, the Maple Leafs signed three free agents – Eric Lindros, Jason Allison and Mariusz Czerkawski. We’ll let you decide to which one he’s referring."

That was from the hockey news.  He does apperently name names in some cases though

"But that’s not what people who loved Domi as a player want to read. Much of the book is devoted to his life as an on-ice fighter, with some interesting and amusing sidebars that occurred during his career. He talks about one night when he and former New Jersey Devils defenseman Ken Daneyko got into a head-butting contest in a bar, and how in Calgary in 2003, he and a couple of teammates had to force an extremely intoxicated Ed Belfour into a cab to take him back to the team hotel. Belfour continued to resist until Domi had no other choice but to punch him in the face and knock him out cold"

Anyways, it sounds like a good read.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Leafs Looking at Zajac
« on: September 24, 2015, 03:21:02 PM »

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Going Forward
« on: September 13, 2015, 12:28:58 PM »
There is a lot of assumption in this post, but I was wondering how people would feel about this scenario.

Let's say the Leafs get the first overall pick next year and they take Matthews.  Lets also say that Stamkos goes to free agency.  Should the Leafs sign him next year in that scenario?  Would it be a mistake?

I'm just wondering if there is a scenario where signing a player like Stamkos would be a benefit.

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