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He was talking about the Russian linesman from the Olympics. The video stopped and then it went back to him again right while he was in the middle of talking.

They cut to Cherry from earlier today talking during the Olympic broadcast in the morning.
Ah ok thanks.

He was talking about the Russian linesman from the Olympics. The video stopped and then it went back to him again right while he was in the middle of talking.

Oh man Don Cherry just got censored. I wonder what he said.


I'm not sure why the Leafs are the betting favorites in this game with Matthews being injured.

Probably a good opportunity to win a couple of bucks.
I thought about buying a Pro Line ticket.  Any other tips?  I'm tempted. :)

They need Polak with Marchand playing.

Yup. They definitely need a slow, plodding defenceman because the Bruins have a quick, skilled forward who plays a chippy physical game. That'll show 'em!
So who would you rather then?  Carrick?  The problem is that the Leafs don't have much of a viable replacement for Polak.  That should be their one deadline acquisition IMO.  I was hoping Liljegren would get a late season callup but I guess not.  At least Polak brings some grit.  I don't like him either, honestly.  But if he even somewhat prevents guys like Marchand from running amok without consequence that's worth something, IMO.

They need Polak with Marchand playing.

I'm not sure why the Leafs are the betting favorites in this game with Matthews being injured.  Should be a great game to watch though.  I hope Leivo plays well.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: Yesterday at 09:11:00 PM »
you were exaggerating things
I probably was.  That was a dark time to be a Leafs fan.  I did not enjoy it.  You are right, Burke did some good things and the remaining players on our roster are testament to that.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: Yesterday at 08:55:14 PM »
They actually have a somewhat decent chance of going to the cup this year. 

I think that's the point of contention. Right now they're probably underdogs to make it out of the first round.
JVR was the one good thing Brian Burke did for Toronto.  He fleeced Philly's GM at the time.

Burke drafted Kadri, Rielly and Brown, signed Bozak, traded for Gardiner...
Didn't one of the draft picks he traded for Kessel turn into Tyler Seguin?  I'm pretty sure it did.  Another one became Dougie Hamilton.  There was another pick also.  IIRC it was two firsts and a second for Kessel.  Essentially now we have Kapanen to show for all that.  Perhaps there were outside influences but I'm not a fan of what Brian Burke did in Toronto.  Yes, you can cherry pick the good things he did.  Overall he was slightly less of a disaster than John Ferguson, though, IMO.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: Yesterday at 07:16:20 PM »
Why are you guys suggesting the Leafs should trade JVR?  The Leafs are a few points out from being the top team in the league right now.  I say change nothing.  They are rolling right now and they have good chemistry.  They actually have a somewhat decent chance of going to the cup this year.  It's not easy to do that.  I have watched them play against great teams like Tampa Bay, Nashville, and Boston lately and I really think this team is for real.  While it would be tempting to trade JVR for a nice haul, I don't think I would do it, personally.  JVR has practically as many goals as Auston Matthews.  He is extremely talented.  JVR was the one good thing Brian Burke did for Toronto.  He fleeced Philly's GM at the time.

If the Leafs do anything, the should make a somewhat minor addition.  Not a big splash.  They have numerous spare parts like Josh Leivo who they can parlay into something they could use, like a decent defenseman that would keep Polak out of the lineup.  He doesn't even have to be all that great.  Polak is pretty terrible IMO.

What the hell are you doing hanging around here, herman?  Your stuff is 11000x better than Colby Freaking Armstrong and a bunch of other talking heads on the broadcasts.  For God's sake, some forward-looking producer should show Millen the gate, turn off Romanuk's mic, shove a tablet in your hands, and let you telestrate the damn games.

I'm flattered, but tv is a whole different gig than writing. I edit my writing. Really hard to edit what comes out of my mouth when it's rolling! Aside from some usual gaffes and standard talking points, Millen and Romanuk mentioned some interesting things last night that I'd give them props for: when Kadri had a clean break, Millen pointed out how the Leafs' bench called out Three! Three! to let him know he had support; he also noted how the younger Leafs didn't talk much on the ice. I'm pretty convinced a lot of Gardiner's troubles with Zaitsev (and everyone's chemistry issues with Zaitsev) is that he doesn't get much communication from him. Contrast that with Carrick (and how much Hainsey barks at everyone) and you see cleaner breakouts and retrievals.

I wrote it all myself, but Carlton's not entirely wrong in that a lot of the observations I've made were refined by the writings (and podcast appearances) of others, which might be difficult for me to cite exactly. The big three (point five) writers of influence for Leafs systems analysis for me are probably Justin Bourne, Anthony Petrielli, Gus Katsaros, and when he was publicly available, Jack Han. They're still my observations (if you want to timestamp check the GDTs and other threads  :P ) but their writings have helped me with the terminology and helpful things to watch for. I haven't played the game at any organized level, and I have zero direct access to the team, so I've definitely got some assumptions in there that could be wrong.
I agree, herman, that you're extremely knowledgeable and you're fun to chat with on the forum here also.

I will say that the talking heads on TV have a script.  So you wouldn't be going into that blind.  I do think you would fit in nicely in the sports media in some capacity, if you are not doing so already.  I also don't know how much you enjoy your current day job. :)

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:20:34 PM »
Based on Babcock's comments not long ago that the best way for the players to put pressure on the GM is to play well, I would say that the Leafs just might be going for it this year, I believe they have gone close to 9-1 since Babcock said that.  They do have a half decent shot to go for a nice run.  Lou Lamoriello's job is not easy right now.  I'm not sure what I would do.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 19, 2018, 08:43:58 PM »

 Wow! I had expected a little more than a 4th.
Me too!  Why do our Leafs always get screwed when trading with the Blues?  Why???

What did you expect for an oft injured soon to be 25 year old winger with 14 points in 70 career NHL games? The Leafs were never getting more than a 4th for him. That's exactly what his value on the trade market was.

Unless they had waited until deadline day — then all kinds of circumstances might drive up the price.  Why trade him before then?
I thought this had been quite clear already.  Soshnikov had it in his contract that he had to be playing at the NHL level by a certain date, otherwise he could return to Russia.  That date had already passed.  The only thing the Leafs could have done would have been to demote Kapanen but they didn't want to do that for obvious reasons.  So their hands were tied.  They had no choice but to trade Soshnikov, and the other teams knew that.  Actually the fourth rounder is a pretty good return in light of all that.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 19, 2018, 05:27:56 PM »
So what's wrong with Dominic Moore again?  And what kind of upgrade would Glendening be?  I can understand the Leafs wanting to upgrade, but at least do it right.

Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:45:17 PM »
So Donaldson is not signing here and he expects to be a free agent in August.  Hopefully the Jays can get something for him at the trade deadline.  If not they will at least get a compensatory draft pick.  I think with Guererro Junior coming up it kind of makes sense to let Donaldson walk.  Too bad.  He's an outstanding player.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Soshnikov traded to the Blues
« on: February 18, 2018, 04:42:07 PM »
For you guys complaining about this deal, the Leafs had their backs against the wall and were in a roster crunch.  Soshnikov was saying he was going to go back to Russia if the Leafs didn't play him.  In fact I think he was pretty patient and even waited longer than he initially said he would.  The other teams knew the Leafs were in this situation and they acted accordingly.

Is a fourth round draft pick enough of a return for Soshnikov?  Probably not.  Ideally they would have gotten at least a third rounder for him.  But when you look at it from the standpoint that they could have lost him to Russia for nothing, the Leafs came out okay, and they gave the player a nice opportunity in another organization.

I liked the intensity Soshnikov played with, he reminded me a lot of Zach Hyman.  However he was too low on the depth chart and I'm happy we at least got something for him.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Leivo now.

I actually only remember seeing Sosh say the opposite. Do you have a quote?
Have a look here:

Soshnikov was very patient.  That article is from November.  I'm glad things worked out for him, and that the Leafs at least got something for him.

All of that being said, Soshnikov never directly said he would go back to Russia.  It was simply a clause in his contract.  This is what he actually said:

“I have conversations with most of my players on a daily basis so we discuss the different possibilities, but Nikita wants to play in the NHL. He came to North America a few years back fully understanding and knowing it would not be easy, it would be hard,” Milstein said. “He gave up his KHL career and came here to try and play for the Toronto Maple Leafs and go through the American Hockey League system.

“He’s a true warrior. If he wanted to go back to Russia he could have, but there’s a reason he’s been working so hard here.”

From here:

He handled it like a true professional.  Anyhow that's probably where the confusion comes from.

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