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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Media Thread
« on: August 07, 2018, 11:58:09 AM »

Hey gang, have you watched Sportsnet's reasonably competent NHL coverage and thought to yourself "I think they probably would make a good burger", well, do I have the restaurant who'll charge you eight bucks for a pint of Bud Light for you!

Admittedly I don't eat in Toronto very often but those prices seem nuts. $26 for a chicken caesar salad?! An $18 grilled cheese!?

edit: actually, a $27 plate of nachos is my favourite, only because guac is an extra $11! It's a share plate so I'd imagine it's an ok size but still.
I eat out here a lot. These prices are just obscene.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2018-19
« on: August 07, 2018, 11:55:22 AM »
20. Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

This is a pretty big debut for a freshly drafted non-first rounder.
Maybe they just like his taking over for JVR. SDA!

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: August 05, 2018, 02:23:28 PM »
Weird question time.

Bourne speculated about minor league prospects still having a higher reputation than their performance merits.

He said specifically that there was one very clear one on the Marlies that it would be wise to trade while still valuable.

Care to speculate as to who he was talking about?

The Goat

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« on: August 02, 2018, 08:41:51 AM »
Kyle Baun has signed for my team in Belfast. Is he any good? The British league is probably about ECHL+ standard

ECHL+ is pretty good! Didn't think it was that good.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« on: July 27, 2018, 03:16:41 PM »
That's been one of the great victories for people like Trump and his supporters. Getting people to automatically dismiss the work of a news organization because their perceived editorial bent isn't perfectly aligned with their own political views. There are lots of news sources who are to the right of me who still have journalists doing real work(the WSJ, the Globe and Mail) no matter how much I disagree with their opinion pages.

Absolutely. But I don't think that a lot of the media is doing the public much of a service, either. A lot of non-editorial pieces are being influenced heavily by bias, even in mainstream papers, and it's difficult to get through too many articles without feeling like you're being told what to think. The Toronto Star in particular, of which I was a 30 year subscriber, has devolved horribly in this regard, and I assume it has to do with it's internal financial pressures, which has affected other outlets as well.

I'd love to see a news hub with relatively unbiased content, and editorialized commentary with "duelling viewpoints" - the first on one side of the page, and then a counterpoint directly across on the other side, so one could understand and consider the merits of each perspective. It's difficult to be a 90s era liberal any more, because it seems you're being shoved hard left or hard right by the media.

Also not to make a thing out of this, the problem with point, counter-point is the facts don't always line up 50/50. For example, just off the top of my head, newspapers actually do do a lot of 50/50 coverage of this, or at least there is a 50/50 split in terms of yes or no amongst an aggregate number of news outlets. The issue here is that there is almost unanimous consensus that humans are a driving cause of global warming due to greenhouse gas emissions, yet there is this idea that doing a subject justice is to give air time/paper space to show the opposing viewpoint, even though it's not commemesurate with the level of consensus (97%~ of scientists).

I do think the political spectrum has generally shifted harder right than it has left, and in some ways it is reflective in newspapers, but I think non-op pieces of most mainstream papers do a pretty good job of sorting the facts, unless it's patentedly obvious they're pandering yellow-media rather than true news outlets (Fox, Sun etc.). 

NHL Transactions / Re: Minor Transactions - 2018 Offseason
« on: July 25, 2018, 11:59:36 AM »
What makes you say that?  Its entirely within the rules.

I guess the question is: should it be? Especially if it was the plan all along for the Caps to re-sign him to a more cap friendly AAV?

I guarantee if the Leafs did this exact same thing with Marleau next season (although his buyout would be trickier because of his signing bonus and because he's a +35 contract), other teams would be crying out.

Weren't there things we did in the past that we thought were within the rules that ended up being not in the rules?

All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 19, 2018, 10:37:34 PM »
I don't. Because I think the fundamental question is ultimately the same. If a team isn't in a realistic position to win a championship with the current roster, do you want your management to be making the big and frequently difficult decisions in order to change that? Sure, the Leafs in Kessel were at a different point in the process but right now do you think any of us would blink at trading someone like Gardiner or Kadri if it returned a defender who would help the team win?

I would like the team that I cheer for to make smart difficult decisions.  So take the decision to trade Shea Weber for P.K. Subban.  I'm sure it was a difficult decision for Poile to make that move even with the term Subban had.  Does he make the move if Subban only has one year left, and there are rumors he hates country music?  Does he roll the dice on one year of P.K. Subban because they haven't gotten over the hump yet?

So if Subban walks after that year, and now they don't have Subban, and they don't have Weber, are they in a better situation?  Was that one year of Subban really worth giving up Weber?  Is the one loss in the finals worth where you are afterwards? What about Edmonton's trade with the Blues to get Pronger?  Edmonton bought low on that one, and it worked great for a year, but then he wanted out, and Edmonton has been a shambles since then ( although to be fair they were a shambles before Pronger got there too ). 

And that's really how this discussion started.  You posted about how this will be considered a brilliant move or an insane one.  I think with all the red flags around Kawhi, and what is likely to happen after he leaves, I think a person will be able to argue that this will end up a swing and a miss.

I think you're focusing a little too much on the one year of Kawhi vs. the larger issue though. The Raptors didn't just have some bad playoff losses in the last few years, they had some bad playoff wins. Teams that, by virtue of their respective records, the Raptors should have stomped took the Raptors to tense 7th games. Then getting swept by a very vulnerable Cavs team(who Boston and Indiana could push and who Golden State obliterated).

I'm focusing on that aspect because to me that is the thing that makes the trade make less sense for me.  It negates the whole "we are going to win a championship" argument because even if the Raptors get to the final, they are probably going to lose because of the strength of the west.  So in that respect, you aren't really building to anything.  I don't necessarily buy that they are going to be able to flip Kawhi for more than they gave up because if the rumors are true, they would be dealing with only one team.  The sign and trade aspect does give them a little bit of leverage, but there really isn't anything on the Lakers that is overly exciting in return.

So you've gone back on your word on a player that spoke highly of the area that he played in, which can have negative effects when dealing with other players and you are already a market that has trouble retaining players, to buy a one year shot at a final that is likely to be unsuccessful.  I don't disagree that things were fundamentally broken, but you could also play it out by saying "Well Lebron's not here anymore, so let's take another swing at this with the team we've got" and if that fails, you can still break up the team and do a rebuild because you can then say "Well it wasn't just Lebron", because that has been the argument for their failure for some time.  That they keep running into Lebron.  I agree that it's not the reason and that the team with DeRozan isn't constructed to win much in the playoffs, but in two years time, you are probably in the same spot where you need to rebuild.
Isn't that a bit fatalistic though? By your logic why would any team not named Golden State try to win at all then? Why bother having a league?

All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 19, 2018, 12:31:19 AM »
So is DeRozan just a good player? I have a hard time believing the Tyler Bozak vs Tavares analogy.

All Sports But Hockey / Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« on: July 18, 2018, 01:43:42 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?

General NHL News & Views / Re: Ray Emery Passes Away
« on: July 15, 2018, 11:19:40 PM »
Man he was young! Shocking news...

Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

Same, so i'm a bit disappointed. I'd have liked them gamble a bit on Johnsson... he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup. I was hoping for a 4 year deal at about 1.8.

Yeah but would he take that? I probably wouldn't if I were him.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: July 13, 2018, 11:06:32 AM »
I honestly didn't think that was strong language at all. Seemed more of a factual, historical account of what he's done.

All Sports But Hockey / Re: World Cup Russia 2018
« on: July 09, 2018, 09:18:21 AM »
Today -- Semi-Final 1 -- Croatia vs England

Tomorrow -- Semi-Final 2 -- France vs Belgium
France Belgium Tues @ 2pm
England Croatia Wed @ 2pm

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: July 06, 2018, 03:43:38 PM »
Yakupov's signed a 2-year deal in Russia:

Daigle played over 600 games? Damn!

*Edit: And his numbers aren't really super atrocious.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leafs sign Tyler Ennis
« on: July 06, 2018, 03:39:41 PM »
Low risk, high reward.  Just the kind of signings that should be done on the margins of the forwards.

Don't see much of a downside. He works out - ok cool. If he sucks he's benched very easily.

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