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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kasperi Kapanen
« on: October 12, 2018, 04:33:29 PM »
Ok maybe "solve" this cap issue is too strong a word, but "ease" their cap issue would not be. According to whom you believe, Nylander's ask was $8.5 million (Draisaitl money). Drouin cap hit is $5.5 million, that would be a $3 million saving (assuming Nylander got his ask...but we all know that's never going to happen. Regardless, if he refused to sign anything under $7 million that might force the Leafs  hand towards a trade. Though I also think he will eventually sign for under $7 mil.

Most things I've read have Nylander's ask at 8 million. But, again, it's very much a similar cap situation even with Drouin who's cheaper because I don't think he's as good as Nylander.

Why talk about this in a Kapanen thread? Just saying that perhaps, Kapanen is capable of filling Nylander's boots alongside Matthews if a trade does happen.

It's a tangential connected to Kapanen at best. I'm sure I'm overreacting because so many threads are needlessly turning into Nylander threads but there is a whole Armchair GM thread for trade proposals as a point of discussion. This topic will almost certainly have nothing really to do with Kapanen.

Ok. Point taken. Maybe I look for a better suited thread next time. But as for Nylander being appreciably better than Drouin, not sure that's true. But I can see why people might think that. Nylander forecasted upward projectory by most, one would expect he'll keep on improving.  Has Drouin reached his potential. I don't think so, but I also never felt from Day 1 that Montreal was the right fit for him. Dealt for as the guy who could help turn the franchise around, that's a lot of pressure for a Quebec kid. I see him more as a Kessel type (not talking about similiar skill set, which they are not), just a strong support guy on a winning team but not the leader.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kasperi Kapanen
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:48:00 PM »
With Kapanen looking pretty decent alongside Matthews, how about a blockbuster between the Original Six great rivalry, Leafs and Habs.

Nylander to Montreal for Jonathan Drouin. Similar type players, solving Leaf's cap issue. Drouin becomes topline left winger either now or when Marleau retires. Habs with cap space get a guy who can slide into center ice.

I know the Leafs would prefer to shore up the defense but top d-men are hard to come by and there is some promise in the system with Liljegren, Sandin and Durzi.

I just thought this would make an interesting topic for discussion. I think Drouin might be feeling the pressure in Montreal and could use another change of scenery, and thrive with an offensively loaded team like the Leafs. Could he find the same chemistry with Matthews he once had with Nathan MacKinnon?

If such a deal were ever done, would a pick be thrown in by one side, and if so what?

But imagine the comparisons moving forward in Leafs-Habs match-ups? Would be interesting...

Thumbs up or thumbs down?

Huge thumbs down, Druin for Nylander? Really?

Nylander won't be traded, he will get signed soon.

Not saying I am in favour of this, just trying to get people's opinions. I don't think the difference between these players talent wise is as great as you may perceive it is. Also I asked if a pick would also be warranted by either side and if so, by how much to balance such a deal. Assuming Marleau might be done after next year, the Leafs are not as strong on the left wing side.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kasperi Kapanen
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:42:42 PM »
How does this solve the team's cap issue? Drouin's cap hit is 2.5 million less than Nylander's reported ask. If Matthews gets 12 long term and Marner 9 then it's the difference between 37.5 million for your top 4 forwards and 40(assuming Nylander gets his ask). That's effectively the exact same boat.

Also, how is "Should we trade Nylander for Drouin" in the Kapanen thread?

Ok maybe "solve" this cap issue is too strong a word, but "ease" their cap issue would not be. According to whom you believe, Nylander's ask was $8.5 million (Draisaitl money). Drouin cap hit is $5.5 million, that would be a $3 million saving (assuming Nylander got his ask...but we all know that's never going to happen. Regardless, if he refused to sign anything under $7 million that might force the Leafs  hand towards a trade. Though I also think he will eventually sign for under $7 mil.

Just because I throw out an idea for discussion, doesn't mean I am proposing it should be done. It's just saying, that if it came to a trade, and they couldn't find the right d-man, maybe they explore other options.

I've been a Leafs fan for decades, and sometimes I think fans tend to over-value our players compared to players on other teams. Personally, talent-wise, I don't think there is as much difference between Nylander and Drouin as some people might think. What would Drouin's numbers look like playing alongside Matthews?

Why talk about this in a Kapanen thread? Just saying that perhaps, Kapanen is capable of filling Nylander's boots alongside Matthews if a trade does happen. (Again I don't think it will...but stranger things have happened.) I see all kinds of threads on here veering off in different directions. I didn't think it was jumping off the diving board to tie those things together...


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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kasperi Kapanen
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:22:43 AM »
With Kapanen looking pretty decent alongside Matthews, how about a blockbuster between the Original Six great rivalry, Leafs and Habs.

Nylander to Montreal for Jonathan Drouin. Similar type players, solving Leaf's cap issue. Drouin becomes topline left winger either now or when Marleau retires. Habs with cap space get a guy who can slide into center ice.

I know the Leafs would prefer to shore up the defense but top d-men are hard to come by and there is some promise in the system with Liljegren, Sandin and Durzi.

I just thought this would make an interesting topic for discussion. I think Drouin might be feeling the pressure in Montreal and could use another change of scenery, and thrive with an offensively loaded team like the Leafs. Could he find the same chemistry with Matthews he once had with Nathan MacKinnon?

If such a deal were ever done, would a pick be thrown in by one side, and if so what?

But imagine the comparisons moving forward in Leafs-Habs match-ups? Would be interesting...

Thumbs up or thumbs down?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: September 24, 2018, 10:51:33 PM »
Switching things up a bit. Most of the pundits think Ennis automatically drops back to 4th line left wing once Nylander signs. I am thinking something else.

Babcock has been keeping Kapanen and Johnsson on the flanks of Lindholm the whole training camp. I don't think he's been super impressed with their effort, so he not going to hand them 3rd line duties over a well-rounded player, with more experience, like Connor Brown, or ahead of a veteran, with skill, working his tail off like Ennis.

I think if Nylander gets back during pre-season or later, Ennis ends up playing left wing 3rd line with Kadri and Brown, making Leivo odd man out again.

Johnsson and Kapanen will have to play better to earn their way up the lineup, that's my take.

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Not exactly a surprise, but if there was some sort of battle for the 4C spot then it's over now.

Goodbye Goat Man.

Back-up goalie (McBackup isn't making this an easy decision) and 6D (Carrick seems to have played himself out of that spot) are still up for grabs.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: September 23, 2018, 09:20:06 PM »
Hoping you are right at number 3, but would like to keep it to 40 mil

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Contracts for the Big-3
« on: September 23, 2018, 09:04:09 PM »
Curious about people's opinions on these regarding Nylander?

1. What do you think we'll see most likely, bridge or longer term?
2. If bridge deal, how long and at what dollar amount?
3. If long-term, how long and at what dollar amount?
4. Do you think it gets done before the season starts?
5. Given the fact the Leafs are deep on the right side, with Marner, Kapanen, Brown and with Bracco (coming along), the Leafs could trade from strength to either 1) shore up the defence 2) strengthen the left wing, with the departure of JVR and Marleau's career winding down. What do you think the chances of something like that happening?

Personally, in terms of bargaining power, Nylander camp has none except to sit out and eventually that will cost them. Leafs hold all the cards at this point. Seems like some kind of crazy ego thing going on that they think he is closer in talent to Matthews and Marner than he really is. He's very talented but I don't see the level of consistency on a nightly basis.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Say goodbye to JVR
« on: July 01, 2018, 11:24:13 AM »
Steady reliable goal scorer, but I wouldn't have paid him $7 million a year to stay. May have been the worst defensive forward on the team, and not much for digging pucks out of corners, though that was not really his role, would have like to see him use that size to more advantage. The 65 goals he got over past two years were his best back-to-back years of his careers, maybe due to just being in his prime but many of them were handed to him on a platter by Marner. Great at tips though. Wish him well, but not too well in Philly. I think Andreas Johnsson can take his place, score 20+ and be much better defensively. We'll see I guess. If the saved money can land us Tavares will be well worth it.

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Crap Devils score. Moment I jump on here. That being said, there are couple of things I'd like to give Jake Gardiner props for.

He takes a lot of crap for different things, but here a couple of things I'd really like to praise him for  - often overlooked and never really mentioned.

1. He keeps an incredible number of plays in at the offensive blueline with his speed, his ability to knock or gloves pucks down or simply corral bouncing pucks. I think he is far better at it than any other Leaf blueliner and better than most I've watched on other teams.

2. He rarely gets caught on a bad pinch (despite his risk-taking to keep pucks in, which makes it even more impressive). I mean when was the last time you saw a highlight with Gardiner getting caught up ice. Pretty impressive in my opinion. Just watch him, he's is really skilled at keeping pucks in without getting burned.

Just my two cents worth.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: JVR
« on: March 20, 2018, 08:15:29 PM »
We'll see if he really loves Toronto and takes a hometown discount to be a part of history when it comes.

JVR's hometown is in New Jersey and his love for the city/his teammates isn't necessarily linked to his willingness to take a below market deal to stay here.

Seriously, hometown discount is just a turn of a phrase. Every Leaf fan know he's an American. Not saying it is linked, just saying some guys do to less to stay with team and place they like, especially if they have a shot a winning it all. Stamkos for one could have gotten more on the open market. We'll see what Tavares does.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / JVR
« on: March 19, 2018, 08:30:32 PM »
Nothing like 5 goals in a couple of games to ramp up the talk.

Here's my take on JVR.

If I were the Leafs, I'd offer $6 million for five years, take it or leave it.

Can they afford it? Yes.  For about $32 million, they can lock up all their key forwards including JVR and Nylander, by letting Bozak, Komarov go and trading Martin back to the Island. Throw in another $5 million for bonus for Matthews and Marner. Aaltonen will likely fill one of the left over forward spots in expensively. Matthews missing time helps us with the Nylander contract as it no doubt affects his points total. Highly doubtful Nylander's contract would eclipse Jets Ehlers, though he may match it at $6 million.

The would still leave quite a bit of cash left over, if you budgeted $40-45 million for forwards out of $80 million cap. Another $25-30 million will cover the d-men, and you could still have $10 million left over for goaltending and spare change.

Lupul, Gleason and Cowen all come off the books after this year, so that's about $7 million in savings.

The Leafs can let Hainsey walk after next year and buyout the final year of Marleau's contract if they need to. Resigning Matthews and Marner will got done, you can be sure of that.

It would be nice to keep JVR, but not over pay for him. He's kind of one dimensional - though you can't get much better a dimension that scoring.

If I were the Leafs I would also insist on a limited no trade clause, 10 team kind of thing, just to be on the safe side.

We'll see if he really loves Toronto and takes a hometown discount to be a part of history when it comes. Or if the Leafs mgmt love him enough to make him a decent enough but not outrageous offer to stay. I highly doubt they'd do that. I think $30 million over five years is fair for both sides.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leafs acquire Plekanec
« on: February 25, 2018, 06:32:39 PM »
I think Plekanec is simply to strengthen the existing roster for the playoffs.
JVR, Bozak and Komarov will likely all be sticking around.
I think it's highly unlikely they deal for McDonagh unless it's using picks and prospects, the Rangers are thinking rebuilt not rentals like the Leafs pending UFAs - that would make no sense.
I could see the Leafs adding someone like Mike Green if the price wasn't too high.
The Leafs might be able to get a second rounder back for JVRs negotiating rights with some team, should they choose to let him walk.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 11, 2018, 11:53:39 AM »
With talk about the Leafs add center depth, here are few thoughts.

If this Leafs wanted to move Komarov to centre on 4th land, pick up Grabner for a second go around. Imagine him and Kapanen on either wing, blinding speed. Another good penalty killer if anyone got hurt, and some scoring touch. Babcock liked him if when they let him go.

Mikael Backlund, decent two way center with speed and some skill. If Calgary were to hit the skids of the next couple of weeks, they might part with him for a younger player, Leivo or Sosh and a pick.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 03, 2018, 08:11:05 AM »
I personally don't see the Leafs trading any of JVR, Bozak or Komorov at the trade deadline, unless it is such a great offer they can't refuse and upgrades the current team. They won't subject from the existing lineup to a sell off in personnel as that would be sending the wrong message to a team that wants to win.  Babcock made it pretty clear this week, he's all about add not subtract. I think they hang on to all of them for as long a playoff run as possible, and then the Leafs wait to see what's going to happen with Taveras. If they have a real shot at him (he decides he wants out of the Islanders), they would likely dump all 3 of the contracts to make room. I think the Leafs are more likely to let their young d-man develop and see what they have for another year and take a shot at Taveras. If they don't get him. I could see them maybe resigning some of their pending UFAs and trying to take shot at Doughty next year depending on the development of their young d-men and where the Nylander and Marner contracts close at (Nylander's probably sets the bar for Marner unless Marner has a crazy good or bad following season). I think it's pretty clear Matthews will be in the 10-12 K range. Anyway that's my take.
While everyone including myself was anxious to see the Leafs add a right-handed d-man to strengthen the back end, I think now Shanny and Lou have wisely been patient and let these young d-men develop to see what they have. The cupboard may not have been as bare as first thought.

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