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Messages - Frank E

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To be fair, Ottawa may have wanted a roster player like Boedker in return, low on salary but serviceable in the top 6.  That would be why Tallon wouldn't have offered the same kind of deal.  So more like a 3 way deal was in place, but Ottawa may have not liked the optics of trading Hoffman within the conference...given that it happened on practically the same day, I'd bet on something like this to have happened.

Their roster is pretty terrible, and they still have to ice a team.

Like Nik said, it's not like Melnyk is advocating a rebuild there, at this point anyways.

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I didn't feel like Gauthier really had the tools to begin with. I think that point is fair that if a player has not produced in junior there's no point taking a swing hoping that in the best case scenario he ends up being a guy you can pick up via cheap trade or waiver wire.

But what does "produced in Junior" really mean in that context? In Gauthier's draft year he produced 60 points in 62 junior games. That's not great but, again, lots of guys have gone on to be really good offensive players in the NHL producing at comparable or even lower rates in their draft years.

I just read through a lot of the pre-draft scouting stuff on Gauthier and the reaction here and it's more "he could be a 2nd liner if he puts it all together" than it is "Best case scenario, he's a 4th liner".

Without googling it, I remember the Gauthier being a strong defensive player with all those tools, big guy, but his offensive game needed work...as well as his skating.

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NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Today at 09:54:59 AM »
San Jose taking themselves out of Tavares contention for good?

That's what I was thinking, but really it's only ~$1m in cap difference, right?

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NHL Transactions / Re: Hoffman traded to San Jose
« on: Today at 09:44:40 AM »
Is Bergman any good?

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: Today at 09:36:43 AM »
I didn't want to mention it, but now that Bob has broken this, I can tell you that I have been asked to be in the video. 

I think it would only be right for me to solicit your opinions on what I should say...

"Hey John, do you want everyone you've ever known since Grade School bugging you for tickets? People scrutinizing everything about your life and how it relates to your on-ice performance?"

"How about dealing with an irrational, hypercritical media that will be quick to blame you for any of the team's shortcomings while demanding you give them the time they want? Or a rabid fanbase who will talk about loyalty but are so desperate for success they'll turn on you the moment it seems like you're not everything they ever wanted?"

"Lots of money though, right? Nah, despite the massive amounts of revenues you'd be generating for us we're not allowed to offer you any more than the Florida Panthers or Carolina Hurricanes. Wouldn't be fair to them."

"The Toronto Maple Leafs: Because the Uniforms are nice, I guess."

"Hey John, listen, if you're a guy like me, don't you hate going out for dinner, or drinks, and being left alone to be lonely and bored? 

Well, if you're lucky enough to sign here, that will never ever happen again for the rest of your life.

It'll be great!  People will walk right up to you, and will either shower you with adulation, or they will yell obscenities to your face, solely dependent on your most recent on-ice shift. But like any pro athlete, I'm sure you enjoy that kind of accountability.

Your family will love these kinds of daily interactions."

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 05:44:59 PM »

Ok... but when a team fires a coach (or relieves them of their duties) with term on their contract isn't that the exact same thing?

Well, no, because they're paying that coach exactly what they agreed to, no matter if he's coaching or not.

We don't know the details here, but if this extension was predicated on both parties agreeing to the 2 year extension, then Trotz is perfectly within his contractual rights to exit/not agree to it.

I get the feeling that this was not a contract extension that needed Trotz approval, and was automatically triggered.  If that's the case, then the Caps might have issue with it...but like any employer, what are you going to do, force the guy to coach your team?  Obviously not, so better they just allow him to move on.

Think of it this way, if the contract clause was automatic, and the salary ballooned to something like $10m, and the Caps didn't want to do it and protested, I think we'd all feel that then they shouldn't have signed the deal in the first place. 

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: Yesterday at 05:33:24 PM »

This is dumb but more teams probably do it than we realize.

Anyway if Matt Martin is involved in this in any way it'll be his greatest contribution to the team.

I didn't want to mention it, but now that Bob has broken this, I can tell you that I have been asked to be in the video. 

I think it would only be right for me to solicit your opinions on what I should say...

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: Yesterday at 04:40:34 PM »
A week from today we could be negotiating with Tavares :o
I don't see it, Lou would never have gone to the island without knowing he would keep Tavares

I mean there's no way for Lou to know for sure if Tavares would sign or not.  If he was so certain of Tavares staying I would think the deal would have been done shortly after Lou took over.

Yeah, there's a lot that could be going on here, but I mentioned earlier that it may be that the Tavares camp has already signaled that they're moving on, and Lou is there to oversee a tear-down of sorts...we really don't know.

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Why the eggplant emoji?

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 04:26:22 PM »
I think Lou will make a phone call...and that would certainly signal something positive to the Tavares camp.

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I wonder what the plan is with Leivo...speaking of roster guys that probably won't play next year.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: June 15, 2018, 04:15:18 PM »
Nik's drunk again guys.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: June 15, 2018, 01:52:06 PM »
I don't mean to be too critical here, but define "#3"...and then tell me how you accumulate 6 of them.

Good defensemen that aren't Hedman/Doughty/Karlsson-money can be drafted and developed quite readily without lottery picks. Dermott and Liljegren are projected for that range of potential and Liljegren has the ceiling to exceed it. Honestly, Zaitsev qualifies too (#4) and is only derided for the contract he was signed to. We're already sitting on Rielly and Gardiner who are on the upper end of that 2nd tier offensively.

I think there's a cap allocation program there though, right?

I mean, you can put $10m into a guy that plays 25 mins a night, and skimp on your bottom pairing.  But icing a corps of 6 X $4m-$5m puts you in ~$27m tied up in defense.

And this is exacerbated by the fact that this strategy has to include "putting your resources into high skill forwards", which then will mean more $$ tied up in forwards.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« on: June 15, 2018, 12:22:38 PM »

I'm not Gus, but I'm pretty sure I've said this thread before.

I don't mean to be too critical here, but define "#3"...and then tell me how you accumulate 6 of them.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
« on: June 15, 2018, 12:02:46 PM »
The thing I took away from my watching the Marlies for 15 minutes is that Andreas Johnsson will be on the big club come Octo.  That's what you call a razor-sharp insight.

Sticking your neck way out there...I admire your confidence.

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