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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: Yesterday at 04:00:11 PM »

Probably doesn't happen... but... if the Leafs were looking for a cheap centre to have round just in case while Matthews is out Holland wouldn't be the worst option.
Sure why not, it's costs nothing.

Except a roster and contract spot.

Yeah, I think Carlton might be drunk.

Imagine not liking Jake Gardiner? I honestly feel bad for some of you.

It's OK to be critical even of those you care for. 


The puck was right there...I don't understand the call on Brown there.  He fought for positioning on a puck that was in his feet.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 22, 2018, 03:03:12 PM »
I have no idea how to make this D better without giving up the farm. Is Seabrook a consideration? Robidias Island can be wonderful place late in someone's career.

Kronwall? Johnson?

Hard, hard pass on all 3. Wouldn't take them for free.
I am trying to come up with attainable names. Unlike the massive names everyone else is throwing out there. Let's not forget Polak/Carrick = woof as well.

You put McDonagh in that top pairing, then Hainsey is quite the upgrade to your 3rd pairing.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 22, 2018, 03:02:00 PM »
So what is everyone ok to give up for McDonagh?

If I'm allowed to dream out loud then ideally the bulk of a McDonagh deal would come from assets gained from the trading of JVR and/or Bozak. If JVR could yield a B+ prospect and a pick and Bozak a second rounder then I think that, plus a first and some filler. I think Brown/Johnsson would be tough sells for a team that figures to be rebuilding if they're going to be 27+ when the team is rebuilt.

So, not Korshkov either?

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 22, 2018, 01:15:24 PM »
I'm sorry, but I just don't see Ryan McDonagh as some kind of savior that we need to part with significant prospects/picks for at this point in the Shanaplan.

He's a #1 defenceman who is only 28 years old and is signed to a reasonable cap hit for the next two playoff runs. He's solid defensively and he scores a very good amount at 5-on-5. He can skate. He's experienced. He's played a top pairing shutdown role for years. He has leadership qualities. This isn't Kevin Shattenkirk. He's basically the perfect compliment for Rielly on the top pairing. It'd be a bonus if he was right handed but that's hardly the end of the world.

Do we know if he can play the right side effectively?

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Looking down the pipeline
« on: February 22, 2018, 08:57:42 AM »
I really don't understand the criticism of Gardiner in his own end. He gives it away periodically (as all defenceman do) but his gap control and positioning are strong, which is probably why the Leafs get a lot more shots than the other team while he is on the ice.

The real defensive problems are the likes of Zaitsev and Polak, who are positionally wonky and often blindly fire it away when they do manage to get control.

You're right that Gardiner is a net positive and is of huge value to the team.

However, if you don't see that Gardiner is prone to the "big mistake" more than most other dman of his caliber/lineup slot, you are either lying, blind or not watching enough hockey aside from the Leafs.

I love Gardiner, but it's a love-hate relationship at times.

The "big mistake" phenomenon is mostly a matter of certain fans looking for it, it seems to me (i.e. confirmation bias). There's no real evidence to suggest that he's more prone to big mistakes than other defenceman. At the same time, there are plenty of analytic statistics to show that he's a strong defender.

I'm with WIGWAL.

I think BustaStrange is nuts.  Gardiner has always had trouble in his own zone, maybe less so this season, and less last year than the year previous, but he still has more than his fair share of brain farts.  People jump all over Polak for every bumble in his zone, then forgive Gardiner because of what he does in the NZ and OZ. 

Rielly doesn't seem to make those brutal plays nearly as often, neither does Hainsey.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:28:15 PM »
Well, they're going to have to give to get.  They're not getting anything valuable for Brooks and Bracco. 

General NHL News & Views / Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
« on: February 21, 2018, 06:01:47 PM »
This is sensational stuff.

When's the Oiler one?

I don't think that article is any good at all.  It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.

General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Tavares
« on: February 21, 2018, 03:34:15 PM »
Analytics guys seem down on him, but the traditionalists seem to like him.

Have "traditionalists" ever met a 4th liner they didn't like?

Seth Griffith  :(


To be fair, you didn't say fourth liner in the NHL.

^ This is quality posting, right here.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Fehr traded to the Sharks
« on: February 20, 2018, 05:43:45 PM »
I know my favourite Fehr memory...

So the Leafs are required to won tonight as it's my last leafs game as a free man and I'm holding my tmlfans bachelor party right here in this GDT  8)


Only kidding, it's the best decision I ever made, congrats!

Yeah, no.  Your life is about to get very expensive...then have kids, and your whole life gets super expensive.

Just stay single and keep all of your money to spend selfishly. 

Your deposit is probably a sunk cost, but cut bait, like, now.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Trade Deadline
« on: February 19, 2018, 05:49:17 PM »
Centre depth move, I guess.  You won't have to worry about this guy wanting more ice and to play in the top 9. 

Babcock loves his PK guys.

I'd prefer someone with a little more offensive upside, as long as we're shopping.

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