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Title: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 05:27:54 PM
Never knew the small town I am from, is in the Guiness book of world records for something!

Quote from: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-fascinating-facts-about-snow.php

5. The Longest Winter Road in the World

Constructed each January on ice and snow, the ‘Wapusk Trail’ road has a length of 467 miles and links Gillam, Manitoba with Peawanuk, Ontario, Canada. ‘Wapusk Trail’ is the longest seasonal winter road in the world. It even got a Guinness World Records certificate. This type of ‘temporary highways’ have a crucial role in enabling goods to be delivered to communities without permanent road access. Warm weather forces the closure of the winter road staring with March, early April. Air transportation is an alternative, but it’s quite expensive.

Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 18, 2011, 05:39:53 PM
How did we last a whole week with out a useless thread?
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 18, 2011, 06:40:27 PM
where the hell is Peawanuk, Ontario?
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
where the hell is Peawanuk, Ontario?

Probably a North Western Ontario reserve. My guess would be quite a ways north of Sioux Lookout Ontario, which is just a ways north of Dryden I believe.

After a bit of googling, here it is:

(http://www.flightstothunderbay.com/peawanuck2.GIF)

Fact that will interest you: Its close to Polar Bear Provincial Park
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 18, 2011, 06:48:58 PM
it's on the southern edge of Polar Bear Provincial Park which abuts Hudson bay, right on the Winisk River. (thank you google maps)....so, hell and gone way up north.
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Post by: Derk on July 18, 2011, 07:16:52 PM
I missed the useless thread. I used to post here all the time. Then the dancing banana got banned.

Ah, memories. :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=371921
STATELINE, Nev. -- Former NHL all-star Joe Sakic picked a good spot for his first career hole-in-one -- a US$1 million two-hopper into the cup on the waterfront par-3 17th at the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship at Lake Tahoe on Sunday.

"That's a shot you never imagine hitting," said Sakic, who won two Stanley Cups and an MVP trophy with the Colorado Avalanche. "I've never even been close before."

For the last three years, any player hitting an ace on the signature hole at Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course earned a $1 million bonus from tourney sponsor American Century, with the Kansas City-based investment company stipulating that half of the prize go to its primary charity benefactor.

So Sakic will split the $1 million with Lance Armstrong's Livestrong Foundation for cancer research.

"If you're going to do it, why not here?" he said. "When it went in, I didn't believe it."

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Post by: AlmosGirl on July 18, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
Go away for a week and the whole place falls off the face of the earth! :o
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on July 19, 2011, 08:42:29 AM
So now that you're back, everything should start working again. :)
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Post by: AlmosGirl on July 19, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
So now that you're back, everything should start working again. :)

 :)
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Post by: Madferret on July 20, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I met someone today who pronounced 'google' - 'go oggle'.
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Post by: Derk on July 20, 2011, 05:09:35 PM
I met someone today who pronounced 'google' - 'go oggle'.

I think I will take your advice and go ogle after work. :)
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Post by: Damian on July 20, 2011, 05:25:56 PM
I met someone today who pronounced 'google' - 'go oggle'.

I think I will take your advice and go ogle after work. :)

Just dont get caught
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Post by: bustaheims on July 20, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
I met someone today who pronounced 'google' - 'go oggle'.

I think I will take your advice and go ogle after work. :)

Just dont get caught

Sometimes, it's more fun if you do.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on July 20, 2011, 06:34:01 PM
I met someone today who pronounced 'google' - 'go oggle'.

How is it pronounced? I thought it was Go Oggle too  :o

Serious?
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Mordac on July 21, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
I'm bored.

Give me funny links to read. :)

Keep'em SFW, please. ;)
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 21, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
I'm bored.

Give me funny links to read. :)

Keep'em SFW, please. ;)

break.com
ebaumsworld.com
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 21, 2011, 05:20:34 PM
I'm bored.

Give me funny links to read. :)

Keep'em SFW, please. ;)

http://www.toptenz.net/
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on July 21, 2011, 06:22:16 PM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 21, 2011, 06:29:31 PM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

http://www.canadat.ca/

Its local to me but honestly, I have no idea if its what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on July 21, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

http://www.canadat.ca/

Its local to me but honestly, I have no idea if its what you're looking for.

Yeah, that one seems to have a minimum order as well.   Telling me I have to get at least 10.

I've been rewatching Kenny vs. Spenny, and Kenny's T-shirts crack me up in every episode.   I've decided I can't live without a shirt with my own face on it.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 21, 2011, 06:49:09 PM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

http://www.canadat.ca/

Its local to me but honestly, I have no idea if its what you're looking for.

Yeah, that one seems to have a minimum order as well.   Telling me I have to get at least 10.

I've been rewatching Kenny vs. Spenny, and Kenny's T-shirts crack me up in every episode.   I've decided I can't live without a shirt with my own face on it.

Nice!
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 22, 2011, 09:16:34 PM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

You can contact "Lids", they do custom hats and you can buy 1 or any amount you want, not sure if you have one close by.
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Post by: Damian on July 23, 2011, 09:55:11 AM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

I can get custom tshirts all day long. Check out http://kodegarment.com/   I have an interest in this company on the side...

1 offs? No problem, one sided $20.... PM me if your interested
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 25, 2011, 09:16:28 AM
Watching the Classic series from 2003 between the Leafs and Flyers on the NHL Network.

How did we not win at least one cup from 2000 to 2004? We had a really good team and a lot of talent :/
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Post by: Deebo on July 25, 2011, 11:24:07 AM
Anyone know a place online where you can get custom hats/shirts made?   They also need to ship to Canada and have no minimum order size.

I've found a bunch of places, but they either cost an arm and a leg to get them in Canada, or you need to buy at least a dozen of them or something like that.

http://www.canadat.ca/

Its local to me but honestly, I have no idea if its what you're looking for.

Yeah, that one seems to have a minimum order as well.   Telling me I have to get at least 10.

I've been rewatching Kenny vs. Spenny, and Kenny's T-shirts crack me up in every episode.   I've decided I can't live without a shirt with my own face on it.

http://www.avery.ca/avery/en_ca/Products/Printable-Crafts/Printable-Fabric/White-T_shirt-Transfers-_-6pk-3-extra-bonus-sheets_03271.htm

This might be a cheaper option.
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Post by: Mordac on July 25, 2011, 11:40:37 AM
They work OK, but be careful not to turn the iron up too much, or you'll burn your face.
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Post by: Tigger on July 25, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
It takes a photon 30 000 years to travel from the core of the sun to the surface ( neutrinos take two seconds ). The sunlight shining today was created during the last ice age, weird.
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Post by: bustaheims on July 25, 2011, 03:31:23 PM
It takes a photon 30 000 years to travel from the core of the sun to the surface ( neutrinos take two seconds ). The sunlight shining today was created during the last ice age, weird.

Science!
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on July 25, 2011, 03:37:26 PM
It takes a photon 30 000 years to travel from the core of the sun to the surface ( neutrinos take two seconds ). The sunlight shining today was created during the last ice age, weird.

Science!

 :)
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Post by: Potvin29 on July 27, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/30sumag.gif)
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Post by: Sarge on July 27, 2011, 10:19:43 AM
Loonie above $1.06 US?  :o
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Post by: Derk on July 27, 2011, 03:38:59 PM
That's useless?

Or would that be the US dollar that is approaching useless? :)
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 27, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
That's useless?

Or would that be the US dollar that is approaching useless? :)

 :)
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Frank E on July 27, 2011, 10:21:09 PM
That's useless?

Or would that be the US dollar that is approaching useless? :)

Pretty serious stuff, and the idiots in charge are all playing politics. 

The thing is that they've got to make deep deep spending cuts over the next 20 years to get this thing under control. 

They're like a 20 year old with an unlimited credit card fast forwarded 20 years later. 
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on July 28, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
I've been asked to redesign/improve the website of a local carpentry shop, and I'd appreciate some input.   I've done a few pages as volunteer jobs for non-profit organizations, but this is the first paid gig I've gotten that is vaguely in the field I'm looking at as a career, so it's important that I do it well.

I've spoken with the owner, but he doesn't seem to really know what he wants.   He just wants it to be better and more professional.   I'll be meeting up with him in person on Tuesday, so I figure I'll spend some time this weekend mocking up some ideas and make a pitch to him then.

The url of the current site is http://murphywallbed.ca.

If anyone gets a chance, just take a glance at it, and if you can think of any design flaws, missing or useful features, etc, I'd appreciate.
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Post by: Madferret on July 28, 2011, 07:00:16 PM
I've been asked to redesign/improve the website of a local carpentry shop, and I'd appreciate some input.   I've done a few pages as volunteer jobs for non-profit organizations, but this is the first paid gig I've gotten that is vaguely in the field I'm looking at as a career, so it's important that I do it well.

I've spoken with the owner, but he doesn't seem to really know what he wants.   He just wants it to be better and more professional.   I'll be meeting up with him in person on Tuesday, so I figure I'll spend some time this weekend mocking up some ideas and make a pitch to him then.

The url of the current site is http://murphywallbed.ca.

If anyone gets a chance, just take a glance at it, and if you can think of any design flaws, missing or useful features, etc, I'd appreciate.

See if he has any testimonials or letters from satisfied customers.  In trades your reputation is everything.
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Post by: bustaheims on July 28, 2011, 07:07:53 PM
I think the big thing for him is to do something that really separates him from the competition but isn't gimmicky or cheesy, etc. Right now, his site is really pretty bland and non-descript, and would easily get lost among the other options.
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Post by: Frank E on July 28, 2011, 07:16:13 PM
I've been asked to redesign/improve the website of a local carpentry shop, and I'd appreciate some input.   I've done a few pages as volunteer jobs for non-profit organizations, but this is the first paid gig I've gotten that is vaguely in the field I'm looking at as a career, so it's important that I do it well.

I've spoken with the owner, but he doesn't seem to really know what he wants.   He just wants it to be better and more professional.   I'll be meeting up with him in person on Tuesday, so I figure I'll spend some time this weekend mocking up some ideas and make a pitch to him then.

The url of the current site is http://murphywallbed.ca.

If anyone gets a chance, just take a glance at it, and if you can think of any design flaws, missing or useful features, etc, I'd appreciate.

What's the show?  If the beds are the show, then more beds on the first page.

Ask him one question, "Where do you make your money?"...then take his answer and focus on that very product.  Everything else is secondary.
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Post by: Madferret on July 28, 2011, 08:24:46 PM
And ask him if he KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT OUR POST STATS.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 28, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
And wear pants!
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on July 29, 2011, 09:43:11 AM
That's useless?

Or would that be the US dollar that is approaching useless? :)

Pretty serious stuff, and the idiots in charge are all playing politics. 

The thing is that they've got to make deep deep spending cuts over the next 20 years to get this thing under control. 

They're like a 20 year old with an unlimited credit card fast forwarded 20 years later.

I racked up enormous credit card debt in my many years in university. Luckily, I got a good job when I graduated, rented a room, lived lean and paid all my debts down. It's tough, but it can be done. Unfortunately, most countries these days have problems with that sort of thing.

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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 29, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
SP,

I would have him make the images bigger....there's way too much 'blank space' on those pages, and I'm on a small laptop. If it looks small to me, imagine what it looks like on a huge full size computer screen.  The home page has two tiny images on it. They need upsizing.

Whoever said focus on the one thing he makes money on is right. Take the images for it and make them front and centre. (I think it's important to show both photos too, the tucked away bed and the off the wall image, for comparative purposes) If they have a showroom example, it should be shown perhaps on the contact page, so people know what they're looking at.

It might just be me, but I'd kinda like to see a price range shown so I'd know right off the bat that I'm either ready to go with it or in over my head. As a shopper, I hate wasting lots of my time (and gas) going to see something only to find it's way crazy expensive or really not suitable for what I want. That'll be an argument to have with the owner though.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on July 29, 2011, 02:26:51 PM
Oh, that's not me.   That's what's been there for the past 4 years, the last time he hired someone to do it.   I haven't touched it yet.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I've written down a bunch of notes.   I just got off the phone with the owner, and he wants the entire site rebuilt from the ground up.   The only thing he likes about it is how easy it is to find through search engines.   He wants an entirely new site, he wants people to be able to purchase stuff through the site with a credit card, and he wants to be able to upload pictures and videos himself.

So it's a bigger (and better paying) job than I thought it was going to be.   We're meeting on Tuesday to figure out the details.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 29, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
and don't forget Safari and Chrome...for the Mac and Linux users.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 29, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
oh, and if he wants people to be able to order online, he might wanna look at PayPal and/or online debit as an option too! Some people (like me and anyone I know who has a cop in the family) don't want to be giving out their credit card info online.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on August 01, 2011, 11:26:50 AM
agreed... Paypal is the safest and most common option for transactions these days...
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 02, 2011, 11:44:26 PM
So I was cleaning out my purse and found a 100 dollar HST cheque from december. Can I still cash it, or will I need to call and have them issue me a new cheque since its more than 6 months old?
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Post by: Darryl on August 03, 2011, 12:33:27 AM
You are fine to cash it.
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Post by: Damian on August 03, 2011, 08:26:43 AM
yes, cash away
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 03, 2011, 09:38:03 AM
Hit a deer aboot an hour ago driving back home from my vacation. The hood, bumper, side panel, headlight are all damaged and my car hesitates to accelerate when I try drive. Currently waiting for the tow truck to take my car to the closest dealership and me to Ashern to catch the bus home. At least I have my Gma and 2 cousins on the bus who are heading to Gillam for a week.

I'm ok, just shook up.
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Post by: Damian on August 03, 2011, 09:47:53 AM
Glad no one was hurt, most importantly
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Post by: You're right on August 03, 2011, 09:55:55 AM
Glad no one was hurt, most importantly
+1 - pretty scary stuff.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 03, 2011, 11:50:55 AM
glad to hear you're okay Leafaholic, but :`( the deer ....
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Post by: Mordac on August 03, 2011, 02:53:16 PM
Hit a deer aboot an hour ago driving back home from my vacation. The hood, bumper, side panel, headlight are all damaged and my car hesitates to accelerate when I try drive. Currently waiting for the tow truck to take my car to the closest dealership and me to Ashern to catch the bus home. At least I have my Gma and 2 cousins on the bus who are heading to Gillam for a week.

I'm ok, just shook up.

You're very lucky....I know a couple of people who've died hitting deer. You take out the legs, and the torso comes right in the windshield. My mom actually wrote off her car hitting a deer.

Glad to hear you're OK. :)
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Post by: Sarge on August 03, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
Stupid dear  >:( Glad you're okay Leafaholic.
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Post by: Potvin29 on August 03, 2011, 09:23:59 PM
Glad you're okay.  And also glad it was not a moose.
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Post by: Darryl on August 03, 2011, 11:01:25 PM
Hit a deer aboot an hour ago driving back home from my vacation. The hood, bumper, side panel, headlight are all damaged and my car hesitates to accelerate when I try drive. Currently waiting for the tow truck to take my car to the closest dealership and me to Ashern to catch the bus home. At least I have my Gma and 2 cousins on the bus who are heading to Gillam for a week.

I'm ok, just shook up.

Two things

Glad to hear you weren't hurt and welcome to the deer club. I've hit 2 of these of oh so intelligent creatures.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 04, 2011, 12:45:04 AM
Thanks everyone, home safe and sound now, was able to catch the bus heading to Gillam and even had to wait a couple hours for it, so I wasn't stranded.

I was really lucky, all I remember is seeing a flash of it run in front of me and then thud and looking over in the passenger side window and saw it fall into the ditch, it hid the hood and flipped over the rest of the car.

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284916_118652548231385_100002599222319_123529_3478428_n.jpg)

With hitting a deer I wont have to pay a deductible, but now to wait and see what the estimated damage is and if they will write the car off or not. The hood, front bumper and side panel will need to be replaced, also the passenger side headlight. The engine light is on and the traction control light as well and when i went to accelerate a bit to get my car off the road, it struggled to accelerate. Not sure why, at first I thought my front passenger tire was messed up from it but its fine.

Sucks that my car is now 900 kms from home and if they fix it, I have to make arrangements to go get it and if they write it off I need to get a new car, which I don't want to do as I love this car.

Shouldn't complain too much though, besides a stiff, sore neck and back I am fine.
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Post by: Bullfrog on August 04, 2011, 07:52:42 AM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\
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Post by: Tigger on August 04, 2011, 08:37:29 AM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

Not quite the same but I totaled my dad's '71 Duster one year before I got my license...  :(
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on August 04, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

Not quite the same but I totaled my dad's '71 Duster one year before I got my license...  :(

I had a real near miss with a deer on my motorcycle 2 years ago.... mere inches.... scary as hell. Glad I took the riding course tho.... pay off big time
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Darryl on August 04, 2011, 09:14:41 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

The deer shouldn't have been driving in the first place.
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Post by: AlmosGirl on August 05, 2011, 11:02:05 AM
Glad to hear that you are ok Leafaholic!  That's really scary.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 05, 2011, 04:41:35 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

The deer shouldn't have been driving in the first place.

 >:(  see, now this is where I miss my spewing lion picture. that was my exact reaction to your wiseass remark, Darryl.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 05, 2011, 06:25:06 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

The deer shouldn't have been driving in the first place.

 >:(  see, now this is where I miss my spewing lion picture. that was my exact reaction to your wiseass remark, Darryl.

What? It's gone?  >:(
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 05, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
test

test


 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/mccabebabe/monitorspew.jpg)
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 05, 2011, 08:33:58 PM
Wooo! Apparently, I *am* still in the spitting lion business. Upgraded the Mac to OS Lion (how appropriate) and my macro program wouldn't work. So the husband upgraded my macro program....and fortunately, just imported all my old macros. Yay.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 05, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
Nice... Slowly, this place is feeling more homely.
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Post by: Ronco on August 06, 2011, 12:44:13 AM
A farmer in South Western Ontario has successfully grown a field of vibrators...... unfortunately, he now has a problem with squatters.

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Post by: Heroic Shrimp on August 06, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
Vintage bad fashions:  http://www.visualnews.com/2010/10/16/who-shot-the-couch-vintage-bad-fashions/
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Post by: Sucker Punch on August 07, 2011, 01:41:04 AM
Does Ruffles not do salt & vinegar chips?   I feel like salt & vinegar with the ridges is a combo I'm missing out on.
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 07, 2011, 05:49:26 AM
Does Ruffles not do salt & vinegar chips?   I feel like salt & vinegar with the ridges is a combo I'm missing out on.

I was looking for them the other day and couldn't find them anywhere! I think they would be the best type of chip for salt and vinigar! I can feel my mouth hurting just thinking about it!
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Post by: Potvin29 on August 07, 2011, 08:06:45 AM
Vintage bad fashions:  http://www.visualnews.com/2010/10/16/who-shot-the-couch-vintage-bad-fashions/

Slack Power.
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Post by: AvroArrow on August 07, 2011, 03:27:48 PM
Does Ruffles not do salt & vinegar chips?   I feel like salt & vinegar with the ridges is a combo I'm missing out on.

I was looking for them the other day and couldn't find them anywhere! I think they would be the best type of chip for salt and vinigar! I can feel my mouth hurting just thinking about it!

I know they tried them....not sure for how long.
(http://www.taquitos.net/im/sn/rufflessaltvinegar.jpg)
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Post by: Ronco on August 07, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
I gotta have the strangest cars in my neighborhood.
There's a Delorean down the st, and a Chopped Lincoln Continental that say Pimp all over it.
Then today i had Buddy come up the st in one of those mini motorcycles.
It was painted yellow very well done, and chopped.
He had on the mirror sunglasses and a helmet with flames, and a beard.
Way to big for this thing, but hey he made it work.

Unreal..
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 07, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
Would anyone like to buy an 04 SX2.0? All it needs is a new transmission and brakes! haha
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 13, 2011, 09:54:16 AM
Anyone been on the Windseeker at Canada's Wonderland yet? Holy cow was that scary. - Partly because my 8 year old daughter who was JUST tall enough to get on was beside me which freaked me out and partly because it's so farggin' high. - I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: TheMightyOdin on August 14, 2011, 12:07:49 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

Not quite the same but I totaled my dad's '71 Duster one year before I got my license...  :(

I had a real near miss with a deer on my motorcycle 2 years ago.... mere inches.... scary as hell. Glad I took the riding course tho.... pay off big time

George Carlin would have called it "a near hit".
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on August 14, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

Not quite the same but I totaled my dad's '71 Duster one year before I got my license...  :(

I had a real near miss with a deer on my motorcycle 2 years ago.... mere inches.... scary as hell. Glad I took the riding course tho.... pay off big time

George Carlin would have called it "a near hit".

damn near ...
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: TheMightyOdin on August 14, 2011, 03:33:21 PM
A deer totaled my dad's '78 Trans Am, one year before I got my license.  :-\

Not quite the same but I totaled my dad's '71 Duster one year before I got my license...  :(

I had a real near miss with a deer on my motorcycle 2 years ago.... mere inches.... scary as hell. Glad I took the riding course tho.... pay off big time

George Carlin would have called it "a near hit".

damn near ...

I've had a couple of close calls with deers but while driving a car. Those got my heart rate racing real fast. If I had had the same experiences on my bike I probably would have crapped my pants.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 14, 2011, 05:59:31 PM
Okay, stupid question (I'm pretty much still a chimp on the computer.) I know what I post here and want to include a gif or jpg it's ... but what about in an email? [img] url [img]?
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 14, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
Okay, stupid question (I'm pretty much still a chimp on the computer.) I know what I post here and want to include a gif or jpg it's ... but what about in an email? [img] url [img]?

Most email software should allow you to drag and drop the image into the email.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 14, 2011, 06:20:21 PM
Okay, stupid question (I'm pretty much still a chimp on the computer.) I know what I post here and want to include a gif or jpg it's ... but what about in an email? [img] url [img]?

Most email software should allow you to drag and drop the image into the email.

I tried that in Gmail... Either it doesn't work or I did something wrong which I suppose is possible. - Not sure how I could eff that up though.  :-\
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 14, 2011, 06:24:01 PM
I tried that in Gmail... Either it doesn't work or I did something wrong which I suppose is possible. - Not sure how I could eff that up though.  :-\

Works fine for me. Are you perhaps working in "plain text" mode? That's the only thing I can think of being a problem. You need to be in "rich formatting" for it to work.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 14, 2011, 06:39:36 PM
I tried that in Gmail... Either it doesn't work or I did something wrong which I suppose is possible. - Not sure how I could eff that up though.  :-\

Works fine for me. Are you perhaps working in "plain text" mode? That's the only thing I can think of being a problem. You need to be in "rich formatting" for it to work.

Hmmm... I'll play around with it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on August 15, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 15, 2011, 01:18:27 PM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(

Mine are 8... and I'd already be a wreck. It's nice you could do that for her though.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Stronger Than All on August 15, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(

Mine are 8... and I'd already be a wreck. It's nice you could do that for her though.

My parents came to visit us and our son on Saturday and convinced us to let him go home with them until tonight :P

He's 19 months old.  I can't wait to see him tonight!
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 15, 2011, 03:16:16 PM
Pretty slow day here at TMLfans.ca, only 9 posts in almost 24 hours in total for the whole site  :o
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Zee on August 15, 2011, 04:10:26 PM
Pretty slow day here at TMLfans.ca, only 9 posts in almost 24 hours in total for the whole site  :o

It'll pick up once training camp opens and we actually have something to talk about.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: cw on August 15, 2011, 05:13:18 PM
Pretty slow day here at TMLfans.ca, only 9 posts in almost 24 hours in total for the whole site  :o

It'll pick up once training camp opens and we actually have something to talk about.

Yep. There's been almost no Leafs news over the last few weeks.

1st rookie camp game is Sept 10th so less than a month to go before things get rollling
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on August 15, 2011, 08:57:34 PM
I tried that in Gmail... Either it doesn't work or I did something wrong which I suppose is possible. - Not sure how I could eff that up though.  :-\

Works fine for me. Are you perhaps working in "plain text" mode? That's the only thing I can think of being a problem. You need to be in "rich formatting" for it to work.

Hmmm... I'll play around with it. Thanks.

I'm not 100% on this, but I think that embedded images aren't enabled by default in gmail.

I think you have to enable it somehow, either in your email settings or via Google Labs (prerelease extentions for google mail and other google applications).
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 15, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I think that embedded images aren't enabled by default in gmail.

I think you have to enable it somehow, either in your email settings or via Google Labs (prerelease extentions for google mail and other google applications).

I didn't change any settings or have Google Labs, and it embedded images for me without issue.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on August 15, 2011, 10:11:28 PM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(

Mine are 8... and I'd already be a wreck. It's nice you could do that for her though.

My parents came to visit us and our son on Saturday and convinced us to let him go home with them until tonight :P

He's 19 months old.  I can't wait to see him tonight!

It's that much sweeter when they arrive home........
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 15, 2011, 10:30:35 PM
I tried that in Gmail... Either it doesn't work or I did something wrong which I suppose is possible. - Not sure how I could eff that up though.  :-\

Works fine for me. Are you perhaps working in "plain text" mode? That's the only thing I can think of being a problem. You need to be in "rich formatting" for it to work.

Hmmm... I'll play around with it. Thanks.

I'm not 100% on this, but I think that embedded images aren't enabled by default in gmail.

I think you have to enable it somehow, either in your email settings or via Google Labs (prerelease extentions for google mail and other google applications).

It's funny. The guy I sent the gif to (via click and drag) says he got it. However, the gif doesn't show in my sent folder... not even as an attachment. - Wierd.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: L K on August 16, 2011, 11:42:28 AM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 16, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.

Because, if there's one thing that natural born predators should do, it's stick to a pure fruit, vegetable and grain diet.
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on August 16, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.

Because, if there's one thing that natural born predators should do, it's stick to a pure fruit, vegetable and grain diet.

Exactly... I mean its gonna be tough to get the cats the shell sunflower seeds... imagine the frustration, not to mention the mess
Title: Re: Temporary Useless Thread
Post by: WhiskeyJack on August 16, 2011, 07:14:50 PM
Vodka and ice will ruin your kidneys. Rum and ice will ruin your liver. Whiskey and ice will ruin your heart. Gin and ice will ruin your brain. Coke and ice will ruin your teeth. Wow! I never realized ice was so bad for my health.  :o
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Deebo on August 16, 2011, 07:46:47 PM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.

Someone from PETA should head into the wild and try to convince a Lion that it can live on a vegan diet.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on August 16, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
If a lion ate a vegan in the forest and no one is around to hear it would it finally answer the question... 'what does tofu taste like?'.

Ooops, does it count as a 'kill' is what I should have asked, vegans don't have enough energy to make a sound and answer any questions like that...

As a leading member of the feline squad I hope the vegan would at least bounce well or maybe that's a tree thing, dunno.

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 17, 2011, 02:42:29 PM
Any cigar aficionados out there?

I enjoy a nice 'gar as much as the next guy from time to time but when it comes to buying 'em, I'm a tad lost. Can I get 15-18 relatively tasty smokes for 50-60 bucks? - That's sort of where my budget is. Basically, I'm off for a boys weekend next month and a few of the guys smoke a heck of a lot more than I do and I want to be able to contribute something.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on August 17, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(

Mines 9, 10 in September and she had her second week long stay at camp earlier this summer. Last year she was a little worried and I walked her into her cabin and we made sure everything was going to be fine before taking the long walk away, this year she was all 'bye dad, see you next week' at the gate. *Sigh*...

I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on August 18, 2011, 07:21:27 AM
Packaged my little one of to camp for the first time yesterday (9 year old, gone for 1 week).

She'll be fine and have a great time I'm sure - me and the missus will probably be a wreck by Wednesday.

The worst part of being a parent is letting go......little by little..... :'(

Mines 9, 10 in September and she had her second week long stay at camp earlier this summer. Last year she was a little worried and I walked her into her cabin and we made sure everything was going to be fine before taking the long walk away, this year she was all 'bye dad, see you next week' at the gate. *Sigh*...

I feel your pain.
I only have to last until Saturday morning.........it's been really difficult for me but I know she is probably having a fantastic time - me, not so much!
2 more sleeps...........
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 18, 2011, 07:25:35 AM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.

Someone from PETA should head into the wild and try to convince a Lion that it can live on a vegan diet.

LOL!!  as long as my lion's safe:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/mccabebabe/monitorspew.jpg)
and definitely NOT a vegan
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 18, 2011, 10:38:09 AM
PETA trying to push veganism on cats...........idiots.

Someone from PETA should head into the wild and try to convince a Lion that it can live on a vegan diet.

Like these guys did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSLQu-d6ZQ

 ;D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Green Leaf on August 18, 2011, 08:09:31 PM
Hope other XP users find this as handy as I do. It allows you to add a "Quick Launch" option to the Send To menu.

http://lhamil64.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/add-a-quick-launch-option-to-the-send-to-menu-windows-xp/ (http://lhamil64.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/add-a-quick-launch-option-to-the-send-to-menu-windows-xp/)

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 18, 2011, 11:20:59 PM
I just left the Kenny Chesney concert..amazing amazing show!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Rick Couchman on August 19, 2011, 06:29:25 PM
I'm on Ritalin - and it does the opposite for adults as it does for kids (it's a stimulant and antidepressant for adults).  And it's working on my depression, in conjunction with Effexor.  Who knew?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 19, 2011, 10:11:50 PM
My new favorite adult beverage - the "Bulldog." It's a traditional lime Margarita (a big one) with a bottle of Corona turnded upside-down in it. The beer obviously stays in the bottle and you lift it up a bit everytime you want to add some to the beverage. - OMG, yum!.. and a nice glow after just the one.   
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on August 20, 2011, 01:43:38 AM
My new favorite adult beverage - the "Bulldog." It's a traditional lime Margarita (a big one) with an upside down bottle of Corona turnded upside-down in it. The beer obviously stays in the bottle and you lift it up a bit everytime you want to add some to the beverage. - OMG, yum!.. and a nice glow after just the one.   

So, a right-side-up bottle?

And you're sure you've only had one?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 20, 2011, 09:25:49 AM
My new favorite adult beverage - the "Bulldog." It's a traditional lime Margarita (a big one) with an upside down bottle of Corona turnded upside-down in it. The beer obviously stays in the bottle and you lift it up a bit everytime you want to add some to the beverage. - OMG, yum!.. and a nice glow after just the one.   

So, a right-side-up bottle?

And you're sure you've only had one?

lol... I told you they were good.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: seahawk on August 20, 2011, 10:04:37 PM
I just left the Kenny Chesney concert..amazing amazing show!

Jealous! I wanted to go, but couldn't get my hands on tickets.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on August 20, 2011, 11:18:55 PM
So the useless thread dropped its "official" title. Looks like this thread is all grown up. *sniff*  :'(
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 20, 2011, 11:38:15 PM
My new favorite adult beverage - the "Bulldog." It's a traditional lime Margarita (a big one) with a bottle of Corona turnded upside-down in it. The beer obviously stays in the bottle and you lift it up a bit everytime you want to add some to the beverage. - OMG, yum!.. and a nice glow after just the one.   

I drank two of these the other night at Lonestar...they're soooo good!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 21, 2011, 05:50:29 PM
The Lonestar has those? Ill have to try one next time I'm in Toronto, there is a Lonestar across the street from the Hotel I usually stay at.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AlmosGirl on August 22, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
I'm on Ritalin - and it does the opposite for adults as it does for kids (it's a stimulant and antidepressant for adults).  And it's working on my depression, in conjunction with Effexor.  Who knew?

That's very interesting.  I never would have thought that.  Glad to have you back Rick!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 22, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
Today is going by wayyyyyyyyyy to slowly :/
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 23, 2011, 10:40:22 AM
MonikaPlatek Monika with a K
Just heard this on the radio: here are 3 new words making their way into the dictionary: woot, mankini and jeggings #seriously
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on August 23, 2011, 10:42:07 AM
MonikaPlatek Monika with a K
Just heard this on the radio: here are 3 new words making their way into the dictionary: woot, mankini and jeggings #seriously

What the hell is a Jeggings?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 23, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
MonikaPlatek Monika with a K
Just heard this on the radio: here are 3 new words making their way into the dictionary: woot, mankini and jeggings #seriously

What the hell is a Jeggings?

No clue, the only one I have ever heard of before was w00t.

Curiousity got the best of me:

Jeggings are leggings that are styled to look like tight denim jeans.
mankini is the thong type swimsuit Borat wore in the movie.

Some other additions apparently are:

• Sexting: sexual text messages
• Retweet: repeating someone else’s tweet in your own Twitter feed
• Cyberbullying: just like bullying, but online

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/sexting-retweet-and-mankini-make-the-cut-in-new-oxford-dictionary/
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on August 23, 2011, 10:57:43 AM
MonikaPlatek Monika with a K
Just heard this on the radio: here are 3 new words making their way into the dictionary: woot, mankini and jeggings #seriously

What the hell is a Jeggings?

No clue, the only one I have ever heard of before was w00t.

Curiousity got the best of me:

Jeggings are leggings that are styled to look like tight denim jeans.
mankini is the thong type swimsuit Borat wore in the movie.

Some other additions apparently are:

• Sexting: sexual text messages
• Retweet: repeating someone else’s tweet in your own Twitter feed
• Cyberbullying: just like bullying, but online

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/sexting-retweet-and-mankini-make-the-cut-in-new-oxford-dictionary/

This kind of crap should stay in urbandictionary. What constitutes a word going into the dictionary these days anyway? I should just make something up and tell them they missed one.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on August 23, 2011, 11:13:28 AM
This kind of crap should stay in urbandictionary. What constitutes a word going into the dictionary these days anyway? I should just make something up and tell them they missed one.

The basic guideline they use is A) the word does not have an obvious synonym - for instance, there really isn't any other way to say "retweet" or "sexting" as a single word and B) it's entered the general parlance of society. Most people will know what a retweet is, or what sexting is. Mankini is pretty obvious, as is cyberbullying. Jeggings . . . that one is a bit of a stretch, though, I imagine it's a fairly commonly known term in the fashion community.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on August 23, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
Is it just me, or did anybody else just feel the slightest tremor of an earthquake in Toronto?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 24, 2011, 11:04:52 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
My pick as top (fave) album/CD/whatever for last year (2010) was Eminem's Recovery. 4 months to go but think I've found this year's winner.


Really Bob? I would have never guessed that, the things you learn on twitter about people.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on August 25, 2011, 08:57:50 AM
Who are these random people that keep following you on twitter for no reason?   I keep getting e-mails that Alexia Altsisi or Martynas Ligeika are now following me.   What do they expect to get out of it?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Spare Change on August 25, 2011, 10:50:10 AM
Who are these random people that keep following you on twitter for no reason?   I keep getting e-mails that Alexia Altsisi or Martynas Ligeika are now following me.   What do they expect to get out of it?
Based on there names?  Citizenship.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 25, 2011, 11:14:42 AM
Who are these random people that keep following you on twitter for no reason?   I keep getting e-mails that Alexia Altsisi or Martynas Ligeika are now following me.   What do they expect to get out of it?
Based on there names?  Citizenship.

Usually its just spam lol..and they will disappear in a day or two haha..I've been stuck between 197 and 200 followers for about 3 $onths despite gaining 2 or 3 new followers every day hahah
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 25, 2011, 04:02:49 PM
Gotta love a short work day, I was called into work last night at 10pm, didn't get home til 4am, so I didn't have to come back to work until after lunch and I am leaving 30 mins early today to see my nephew at the airport before he flies back to Winnipeg, 3 hours and 21 mins at work today, minus the time spent here last night :D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 27, 2011, 06:24:17 PM
Kush card for the win.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Jalili on August 27, 2011, 06:42:40 PM
Kush card for the win.

That's what I'm talkin about

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRYrciOzNK1JmJ7DYBJeSjrrlZYkBU-N9pCiDLlGyJYfOiPjwJpQ)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on August 27, 2011, 09:42:55 PM
Back after a full week off the grid... wow
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 30, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Rick Couchman on August 30, 2011, 05:38:29 PM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!

That's like KFC.  I get a bucket of chicken about twice a year.  Seems like such a great idea at the time, but then ya feel the globs of fat pulsing through your arteries hours afterward...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on August 31, 2011, 12:47:47 AM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!

That's like KFC.  I get a bucket of chicken about twice a year.  Seems like such a great idea at the time, but then ya feel the globs of fat pulsing through your arteries hours afterward...

There truly is nothing like the first piece of chicken from KFC.   Then you quickly start regretting it.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on August 31, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
yeah yahoo fantasy hockey is back and open for regristration this year =) gonna get my fantasy hockey on
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on September 08, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
Jeff Marek:  thank you for not being Joey Vendetta.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 08, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!

That's like KFC.  I get a bucket of chicken about twice a year.  Seems like such a great idea at the time, but then ya feel the globs of fat pulsing through your arteries hours afterward...

I feel that way with most fast food places, it sounds like a good quick meal, but after I feel like crap, the worst is McDonalds, where it starts before I even leave the resteraunt.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on September 08, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!

That's like KFC.  I get a bucket of chicken about twice a year.  Seems like such a great idea at the time, but then ya feel the globs of fat pulsing through your arteries hours afterward...

I feel that way with most fast food places, it sounds like a good quick meal, but after I feel like crap, the worst is McDonalds, where it starts before I even leave the resteraunt.

I merely drive by a McDonalds and I have to take a dump.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 08, 2011, 01:14:08 PM
My buddy ran into Evander Kane and Big Buff last night at the airport, haha

Small city, not really a surprise to run into Jets from time to time I guess.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on September 08, 2011, 01:14:34 PM
Popeyes seems like such a good idea for lunch until after I've eaten it..then I just feel sick to my stomach :( but the firecracker shrimp are sooo good!

That's like KFC.  I get a bucket of chicken about twice a year.  Seems like such a great idea at the time, but then ya feel the globs of fat pulsing through your arteries hours afterward...

I feel that way with most fast food places, it sounds like a good quick meal, but after I feel like crap, the worst is McDonalds, where it starts before I even leave the resteraunt.

I merely drive by a McDonalds and I have to take a dump.
Despite the obvious "over sharing" moment, that made me laugh out loud at work. :o
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on September 09, 2011, 05:11:44 AM
According to a research report from University of Lund (Sweden) Several cases of type-1 diabetes could be caused by virus infections.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on September 09, 2011, 11:37:42 AM
Just got back from 20 days traveling New Zealand.  Was awesome.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on September 09, 2011, 11:47:07 AM
Just got back from 20 days traveling New Zealand.  Was awesome.

On a related note, I hate you.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on September 11, 2011, 10:34:29 AM
4 people in Gothenburgh (2nd biggest city), Sweden were arrested today. They are suspected for preparing a terror crime. According to a police source they do have links to Al Qaeda. The Swedish security police confirmed that they were suspected for preparing a terror crime.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Mordac on September 11, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
4 people in Gothenburgh (2nd biggest city), Sweden were arrested today. They are suspected for preparing a terror crime. According to a police source they do have links to Al Qaeda. The Swedish security police confirmed that they were suspected for preparing a terror crime.

Gothenburg? That's right near the drunk moose!

Stebro, I wanted to ask you if, in Sweden, they call a "moose" a "Swedish Elk"?

There was a new bit this week, about a moose that had eaten fremented apples, and got stuck in a tree, however, the BBC insist on calling the animal a "Swedish Elk". I'd never heard that name before, and wondered if it's actually what it's referred to there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14842999

Just curious.  :)
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Post by: Sarge on September 12, 2011, 04:06:54 PM
So I tried paddle-boarding for the first time this weekend. OMG! I need to get in to this HARD! Anyone try this yet? It's basically like a surf board but you propel yourself with an upright paddle. I couldn't belive the amount of tranquility, zen (whatever you want to call it) I got out of this. Moreover, its a really good work-out. I'm soooooo hooked.   
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Post by: Ronco on September 17, 2011, 08:16:24 PM
Man this place has changed. I see more Site users on Facebook than i do on here in a given day.
When i joined this was Facebook...

Leafs Style.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 18, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
Man this place has changed. I see more Site users on Facebook than i do on here in a given day.
When i joined this was Facebook...

Leafs Style.

just wait til hockey season, dude........
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Post by: skrackle on September 18, 2011, 08:21:18 PM
Man this place has changed. I see more Site users on Facebook than i do on here in a given day.
When i joined this was Facebook...

Leafs Style.

just wait til hockey season, dude........
Yes, I agree.

Personally, I'm just rounding into pre-season form. I'm in an intense posting training camp, and I'm a bit winded.

But do stay tuned for a series of illuminating (and ground-breaking, if not legendary) posts regarding the ultimate nature of Toronto Maple Leafs hockey from myself and my many esteemed colleagues at....

...what's this place called, again?
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Post by: Ronco on September 19, 2011, 12:16:13 PM
Well Oct 2nd i'm heading up to Cayuga and catching the Leafs Alumni play. $10.00 a ticket.
Should be a blast i'm taking my daughters.
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Post by: Peter D. on September 19, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
Got on one of the new subways yesterday on my way home from the Jays game.  Pretty sleek looking and a nice, smooth ride.  Glad to see Toronto's transport system is somewhat catching up with the times.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 21, 2011, 12:05:35 AM
Pretty awesome night, met the Hanson brothers from the Slap Shot movie, as well as booed Kerry Fraser a lot and even met Trevor Kidd.

They were all playing in a charity hockey game in Winnipeg tonight (battle of the badges), to raise money for the Amedeus Steen Foundation.
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Post by: AvroArrow on September 21, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
Some of this is ridiculous:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81842992/

*warning: site typically contains adult content that may not be safe for work*
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Post by: Kessel Run on September 21, 2011, 05:54:49 PM
Man this place has changed. I see more Site users on Facebook than i do on here in a given day.
When i joined this was Facebook...

Leafs Style.

just wait til hockey season, dude........
Yes, I agree.

Personally, I'm just rounding into pre-season form. I'm in an intense posting training camp, and I'm a bit winded.

But do stay tuned for a series of illuminating (and ground-breaking, if not legendary) posts regarding the ultimate nature of Toronto Maple Leafs hockey from myself and my many esteemed colleagues at....

...what's this place called, again?

I hope so! I really hope the traffic around here starts picking up when the season starts.
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Post by: Bullfrog on September 22, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
in the wasteland of Twitter, what does RT mean?
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 22, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
in the wasteland of Twitter, what does RT mean?

Re tweet I think?
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Post by: bustaheims on September 22, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
in the wasteland of Twitter, what does RT mean?

Re tweet I think?

Yup, retweet - the Twitter equivalent of forwarding.
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2011, 08:10:57 AM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 23, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\

You can always goto Real Sports and watch some hockey if you are in Toronto for the night, always a good time there.
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2011, 08:21:15 AM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\

You can always goto Real Sports and watch some hockey if you are in Toronto for the night, always a good time there.

Um, yeah... I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't love me that much.  ;D
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Post by: You're right on September 23, 2011, 08:54:58 AM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....
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Post by: MonikaM on September 23, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
Um, yeah... I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't love me that much.  ;D

She'll love Real Sports. It is a classy restaurant with tasty food and some quieter spots.

It's worth a try.
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Um, yeah... I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't love me that much.  ;D

She'll love Real Sports. It is a classy restaurant with tasty food and some quieter spots.

It's worth a try.

I just can't bring myself to suggest that.... Maybe another time.
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2011, 02:40:13 PM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....

East Side Mario's... Shared a pizza and a pitcher. - Even though I found out later that she hates beer. It's a swell idea but I need to ramp it up.
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Post by: You're right on September 23, 2011, 02:46:35 PM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....

East Side Mario's... Shared a pizza and a pitcher. - Even though I found out later that she hates beer. It's a swell idea but I need to ramp it up.
Pizza AND wings!

I actually bought my wife an anniversary ring for our 10th - she loved it. Now after 10 years she doesn't expect much from me.........my evil plan is working!

Have a great anniversary in any case.
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2011, 02:51:14 PM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....

East Side Mario's... Shared a pizza and a pitcher. - Even though I found out later that she hates beer. It's a swell idea but I need to ramp it up.
Pizza AND wings!

I actually bought my wife an anniversary ring for our 10th - she loved it. Now after 10 years she doesn't expect much from me.........my evil plan is working!

Have a great anniversary in any case.

Thanks! I wish I had the scratch right now to do the same but it's not in the cards. She'll have to settle for way too many of our wedding flowers, a nice dinner and whatever the heck she wants to do later... Hopefully me!  ;)
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Post by: You're right on September 23, 2011, 02:53:51 PM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....

East Side Mario's... Shared a pizza and a pitcher. - Even though I found out later that she hates beer. It's a swell idea but I need to ramp it up.
Pizza AND wings!

I actually bought my wife an anniversary ring for our 10th - she loved it. Now after 10 years she doesn't expect much from me.........my evil plan is working!

Have a great anniversary in any case.

Thanks! I wish I had the scratch right now to do the same but it's not in the cards. She'll have to settle for way too many of our wedding flowers, a nice dinner and whatever the heck she wants to do later... Hopefully me!  ;)
Sometimes there's nothing better than "scoring" on a Saturday night! ;D
And strange coincidence - our first date was at East Side Mario's!
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Post by: AlmosGirl on September 30, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Went to the Enrique concert last night with my sister and our daughters!  Had an amazing time.  Enrique was good but could have been better.  Too much talking and not enough singing.  Pitbull was freakin amazing!!!  That guy is an entertainer and really knows how to get the crowd going!
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Post by: You're right on October 02, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Just got back from Battle of the Blades show. I had been tweeting back and forth with Jeremy Roenick for the past couple of weeks and I asked if my daughter could get a picture with him - he said sure.
He sent me a message earlier today to stop by early and see him and when I tried to there was a lot of security so I tweeted back that I couldn't get close. Just before air time he sent me a message asking where my seats were and what I was wearing. Within a minute he barged his way through the crowd to find me! Great guy - signed autographs for my daughter and friend and posed for a picture.

Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!
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Post by: Kessel Run on October 02, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
Anything happening around town tomorrow night? 10 year wedding anniversary tomorrow and other then dinner I have nothing planned. - I'm so screwed.  :-\
Recreate the first date.........win big points! (unless it was a less than memorable experience) and, oh yeah.....bring lots of gold and diamonds.....

East Side Mario's... Shared a pizza and a pitcher. - Even though I found out later that she hates beer. It's a swell idea but I need to ramp it up.
Pizza AND wings!

I actually bought my wife an anniversary ring for our 10th - she loved it. Now after 10 years she doesn't expect much from me.........my evil plan is working!

Have a great anniversary in any case.

Thanks! I wish I had the scratch right now to do the same but it's not in the cards. She'll have to settle for way too many of our wedding flowers, a nice dinner and whatever the heck she wants to do later... Hopefully me!  ;)
Sometimes there's nothing better than "scoring" on a Saturday night! ;D
And strange coincidence - our first date was at East Side Mario's!

The first date I had with the girl I'm dating now was also East Side!  :o
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Post by: 4th Liner on October 03, 2011, 08:07:16 AM
....[snip]
Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!

Great story! JR seems like a good guy - he certainly knows how to treat his fans.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 03, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
....[snip]
Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!

Great story! JR seems like a good guy - he certainly knows how to treat his fans.

totally *hated* him as an opposing player....but I think I would've loved him if he'd been a Leaf. I've enjoyed him in his off ice career though,
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Post by: You're right on October 03, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
....[snip]
Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!

Great story! JR seems like a good guy - he certainly knows how to treat his fans.

totally *hated* him as an opposing player....but I think I would've loved him if he'd been a Leaf. I've enjoyed him in his off ice career though,
I felt the same (if you're not a Leaf, you are the enemy ;)).

I did however always enjoy the outspoken comments that he and Brett Hull would make - just calling it as they saw it and not caring about fines or disciplinary actions.
Based on my recent experience he has moved way up my list of all time good guys!
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Post by: Potvin29 on October 03, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
Finally, everything a male Sens fan could want: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/new-service-offers-to-pose-as-fake-girlfriend/article2188685/
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 03, 2011, 11:10:26 AM
Finally, everything a male Sens fan could want: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/new-service-offers-to-pose-as-fake-girlfriend/article2188685/

HAHAHAHHAHAHahhhahahaahahhahahahahhahhahaha.........
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Post by: Damian on October 03, 2011, 02:51:59 PM

Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!

Totally agree..... met him at the Bristol PLace hotel a million years a go for an autograph session we he was a rookie, except he walked into the restaurant as we were eating. He and his date sat right beside us.... sparked up a chat with him, he was totally cool... signed a hockey card and a pic. we chatted for about 10 mins.... like him ever since.... 
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 04, 2011, 07:30:48 PM

Total class act! I scored big points with my daughter and got to meet one of my favorite players!

Totally agree..... met him at the Bristol PLace hotel a million years a go for an autograph session we he was a rookie, except he walked into the restaurant as we were eating. He and his date sat right beside us.... sparked up a chat with him, he was totally cool... signed a hockey card and a pic. we chatted for about 10 mins.... like him ever since.... 

Well, except when he scored that goal, right?
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Post by: Michael on October 05, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
I am wondering if anyone here can make any good dining recommendations for my upcoming weekend in Toronto. It has been a while since I have stayed in Toronto so I am looking for great dinner, breakfast and/or brunch ideas. I am staying in the Jarvis/Dundas area from Friday until Monday - going to the HHOF and game on Saturday and the Portlands for a show on Sunday. Right now the only reservations set are for Real Sports Bar and Grill on Saturday before the game.

Any good suggestions?
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 05, 2011, 04:29:18 PM
I've only been to Toronto a few times, but if you're willing to travel a bit, the Gladstone Hotel is fabulous for breakfast and lunch. It's on west queen west though (about a 10 min. TTC ride from where you're staying.)

For something casual, I really enjoyed the food at the Grindhouse Burger Bar on King.
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Post by: Michael on October 05, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
I've only been to Toronto a few times, but if you're willing to travel a bit, the Gladstone Hotel is fabulous for breakfast and lunch. It's on west queen west though (about a 10 min. TTC ride from where you're staying.)

For something casual, I really enjoyed the food at the Grindhouse Burger Bar on King.

Thanks man I appreciate it. Good suggestions.
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Post by: sucka on October 05, 2011, 05:00:20 PM
I've only been to Toronto a few times, but if you're willing to travel a bit, the Gladstone Hotel is fabulous for breakfast and lunch. It's on west queen west though (about a 10 min. TTC ride from where you're staying.)

For something casual, I really enjoyed the food at the Grindhouse Burger Bar on King.

Thanks man I appreciate it. Good suggestions.

Stockyard  is pretty good for some southern style BBQ.  It's on St Clair, just west of Bathurst, it's really good, check out their website thestockyards.ca.  But some things tend to sell out so make sure to go at a decent time.  On the other side and it's closer to where you are, I'd recommend Gio Rana's REally Really Nice Restaurant (but i think everyone still calls it Gio's Nose) in Leslieville, on Queen St E.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 05, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
I've only been to Toronto a few times, but if you're willing to travel a bit, the Gladstone Hotel is fabulous for breakfast and lunch. It's on west queen west though (about a 10 min. TTC ride from where you're staying.)

For something casual, I really enjoyed the food at the Grindhouse Burger Bar on King.

I started following the Grindhouse Burger Bar on twitter a while ago, when a follower retweeted something of theirs, my next trip I MUST try one of their burgers, they look good!
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Post by: Bender on October 05, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
I've only been to Toronto a few times, but if you're willing to travel a bit, the Gladstone Hotel is fabulous for breakfast and lunch. It's on west queen west though (about a 10 min. TTC ride from where you're staying.)

For something casual, I really enjoyed the food at the Grindhouse Burger Bar on King.

Thanks man I appreciate it. Good suggestions.

For pubs I'm a big fan of Bar Volo and C'est What?

As for fine dining, head on over to King St. and take your pick. There's a section with lots of good places to choose from.
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 05, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
and while it's a chain restaurant, I have to say i really enjoyed the breakfasts at Eggspectation, just by the Eaton Centre. cheaper than a hotel breakfast, that's for sure.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 05, 2011, 07:43:42 PM
and while it's a chain restaurant, I have to say i really enjoyed the breakfasts at Eggspectation, just by the Eaton Centre. cheaper than a hotel breakfast, that's for sure.

see, we went to the Eggspectation in Ottawa in August and I wasn't impressed at all. Preferred the hotel breakfast, and the closer and more reasonably priced restaurant we went to on Sparks St....
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 06, 2011, 01:07:02 AM
Does anyone under the age of 80 eat Big Turk bars?
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 06, 2011, 09:34:51 AM
I got a loan through my bank, TD, with a lower interest rate then a few of my credit cards, to pay them off and have everything in one place and lower interest rate. Is it common that after they pay off the cards they cancel them? The bank that is? It seems like the 3 cards I got paid off, are all refusing transactions now, except the TD Visa I have with the bank.

I don't remember them mentioning that they would cancel the card after they called to pay it. Its not like I ever missed a min payment, infact I always paid way more then the min payment :S
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Post by: sucka on October 06, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
I got a loan through my bank, TD, with a lower interest rate then a few of my credit cards, to pay them off and have everything in one place and lower interest rate. Is it common that after they pay off the cards they cancel them? The bank that is? It seems like the 3 cards I got paid off, are all refusing transactions now, except the TD Visa I have with the bank.

I don't remember them mentioning that they would cancel the card after they called to pay it. Its not like I ever missed a min payment, infact I always paid way more then the min payment :S

Why would they, you're a cash cow for them!  In fact, if you haven't done anything to compromise your credit score, i'm surprised they haven't upped your limit.
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 06, 2011, 10:07:27 AM
I got a loan through my bank, TD, with a lower interest rate then a few of my credit cards, to pay them off and have everything in one place and lower interest rate. Is it common that after they pay off the cards they cancel them? The bank that is? It seems like the 3 cards I got paid off, are all refusing transactions now, except the TD Visa I have with the bank.

I don't remember them mentioning that they would cancel the card after they called to pay it. Its not like I ever missed a min payment, infact I always paid way more then the min payment :S

They can't cancel the cards without your permission.

And like sucka suggested, it's in their benefits to have you keep the cards so you can rack up a big balance again.
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Post by: sucka on October 06, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
I got a loan through my bank, TD, with a lower interest rate then a few of my credit cards, to pay them off and have everything in one place and lower interest rate. Is it common that after they pay off the cards they cancel them? The bank that is? It seems like the 3 cards I got paid off, are all refusing transactions now, except the TD Visa I have with the bank.

I don't remember them mentioning that they would cancel the card after they called to pay it. Its not like I ever missed a min payment, infact I always paid way more then the min payment :S

They can't cancel the cards without your permission.

And like sucka suggested, it's in their benefits to have you keep the cards so you can rack up a big balance again.

Not sure about them unable to cancel the cards though.  I'm pretty sure they can do so unilaterally.  Remember it's not a right that you recieve credit from the institution, it's a benefit granted to you after you accept a string of conditions.  What if your financial situation went to the toilet, i'm pretty sure if they had that knowledge they would clamp down on the credit they extend you and perhaps even close the card...which would probably further hurt your credit score.  But I think they'd have to inform you first.
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Post by: Peter D. on October 06, 2011, 10:18:31 AM
Does anyone under the age of 80 eat Big Turk bars?

YES!  It's my favourite chocolate bar.  One giant ju-jube wrapped in chocolate?!  I get disappointed when I finish all 7 ribbings off.
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Post by: Mordac on October 06, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
Does anyone under the age of 80 eat Big Turk bars?

YES!  It's my favourite chocolate bar.  One giant ju-jube wrapped in chocolate?!  I get disappointed when I finish all 7 ribbings off.

I'm with you! While not my favourite, it's certainly good eatin', and I, too, am disappointed when it's all gone. I'm going to buy one on my break.:)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 06, 2011, 11:03:16 AM
Hmmm ok, thanks for the info, I will have to call the person I dealt with at the bank for the loan and see what is going on.
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 06, 2011, 03:03:13 PM
Not sure about them unable to cancel the cards though.  I'm pretty sure they can do so unilaterally.  Remember it's not a right that you recieve credit from the institution, it's a benefit granted to you after you accept a string of conditions.  What if your financial situation went to the toilet, i'm pretty sure if they had that knowledge they would clamp down on the credit they extend you and perhaps even close the card...which would probably further hurt your credit score.  But I think they'd have to inform you first.

Good point. I was assuming the credit cards were from other institutions.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 06, 2011, 04:28:43 PM
Not sure about them unable to cancel the cards though.  I'm pretty sure they can do so unilaterally.  Remember it's not a right that you recieve credit from the institution, it's a benefit granted to you after you accept a string of conditions.  What if your financial situation went to the toilet, i'm pretty sure if they had that knowledge they would clamp down on the credit they extend you and perhaps even close the card...which would probably further hurt your credit score.  But I think they'd have to inform you first.

Good point. I was assuming the credit cards were from other institutions.

Thinking about it, the two cards that have been cancelled or closed, whatever happened, one is with CIBC and another with BMO and I am with TD, so maybe that is the reason. The Amex and TD cards are still working....
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 08, 2011, 07:28:51 AM
There's a cat a little ways down the street from me that was hit and killed by a car.   It's head is crushed, it's pretty gruesome.   But there is a tag still around its neck.

Do I walk down and see if I can find a phone number or something on it?   I feel like I should do something, but I also don't want to get up close and personal to pick through a poor kitty carcass...

Is there no one you can call about this?   I mean, animal rescue, the SPCA, some kind of humane organization, they won't do anything after it's dead, right?
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Post by: sucka on October 08, 2011, 08:31:57 AM
There's a cat a little ways down the street from me that was hit and killed by a car.   It's head is crushed, it's pretty gruesome.   But there is a tag still around its neck.

Do I walk down and see if I can find a phone number or something on it?   I feel like I should do something, but I also don't want to get up close and personal to pick through a poor kitty carcass...

Is there no one you can call about this?   I mean, animal rescue, the SPCA, some kind of humane organization, they won't do anything after it's dead, right?
as an owner of two dogs that sometimes run off, it can be quite nerve wracking when they do so.  Always afraid she'll be run over or dognapped.  It may be a huge relief to know one way or the other the fate of the cat.  Maybe the tags will have info from it's vet. 
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 08, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
There's a cat a little ways down the street from me that was hit and killed by a car.   It's head is crushed, it's pretty gruesome.   But there is a tag still around its neck.

Do I walk down and see if I can find a phone number or something on it?   I feel like I should do something, but I also don't want to get up close and personal to pick through a poor kitty carcass...

Is there no one you can call about this?   I mean, animal rescue, the SPCA, some kind of humane organization, they won't do anything after it's dead, right?
aw, SP.... I think so poorly of sens fans and then you come along and do something nice and sensitive like care about a dead kitty's family. As a pet owner myself, I'd want to know why Pet didn't come home last night (not that mine ever leaves the house). If you can safely get at the tag (wear gloves!) do see if there's a owner or vet name and number and call them. I'd appreciate finding out what happened to my animal, even if it means he's gone. But at least I wouldn't be left wondering if/why he ran away and whatever became of him that way.

Oh, and to answer your original question, I'm not sure for your area. But here in Barrie, if you call the Humane Society, they will come up and er, collect the carcass, and dispose of it properly. They do roadkill of the wild variety too (raccoons, etc) or hand over the info to the provincial folks. Check with your local 'dog pound' folks, If they don't do it, they may be able to direct you to the people who do.

You rock, you know, you really do.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 08, 2011, 09:40:39 AM
All the tag says is "Lucy" unfortunately, so I guess I'm gonna make a few calls now.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 08, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
All the tag says is "Lucy" unfortunately, so I guess I'm gonna make a few calls now.

kudos to you for doing this, SP..... just for you, I won't say nasty stuff about Alfredsson in the GDT tonight. I won't even complain if he scores.
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Post by: Rick Couchman on October 08, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
All the tag says is "Lucy" unfortunately, so I guess I'm gonna make a few calls now.

kudos to you for doing this, SP..... just for you, I won't say nasty stuff about Alfredsson in the GDT tonight. I won't even complain if he scores.

Is the carcass still fresh enough to make a decent soup out of?
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 08, 2011, 03:15:07 PM
All the tag says is "Lucy" unfortunately, so I guess I'm gonna make a few calls now.

kudos to you for doing this, SP..... just for you, I won't say nasty stuff about Alfredsson in the GDT tonight. I won't even complain if he scores.

Is the carcass still fresh enough to make a decent soup out of?

>:-(

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Post by: Mordac on October 08, 2011, 06:06:27 PM
'That's not my cat, officer. My cat doesn't have guts coming out of her mouth.'
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Post by: Potvin29 on October 11, 2011, 09:40:53 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 11, 2011, 10:01:54 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike

Science!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on October 11, 2011, 10:04:39 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike

Fools, sure.  Not sure about the April though.  Nothing says proof like a footprint with some random fur that can't be linked in any way whatsoever to Bigfoot.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 11, 2011, 10:13:15 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike

Fools, sure.  Not sure about the April though.  Nothing says proof like a footprint with some random fur that can't be linked in any way whatsoever to Bigfoot.

Maybe they got some of those "scientists" that deny climate change.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 11, 2011, 10:27:59 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike

Fools, sure.  Not sure about the April though.  Nothing says proof like a footprint with some random fur that can't be linked in any way whatsoever to Bigfoot.

Maybe they got some of those "scientists" that deny climate change.

Surely, you mean scienticians.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 11, 2011, 10:36:15 PM
Is it April 1st or something?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096655,00.html?xid=fblike

Fools, sure.  Not sure about the April though.  Nothing says proof like a footprint with some random fur that can't be linked in any way whatsoever to Bigfoot.

Maybe they got some of those "scientists" that deny climate change.

Surely, you mean scienticians.

(http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/wp-content/images/frink.gif)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 11, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
(http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/wp-content/images/frink.gif)

(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/05/Simpsons-Scientician.jpg)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on October 12, 2011, 10:18:14 AM
I can now explain the reason that traffic was better today and not as many people running into one another on the sidewalk.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/)
I haven't seen so many people watching where they are going in a long time.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on October 12, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
Ive noticed zero problems with my blackberry service in the last couple days :S
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on October 12, 2011, 11:20:49 AM
Nevermind lol..my bbm msgs dont seem to be going through now hahah..i guess i spoke too soon
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Mordac on October 12, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
There is definitely an issue with Blackberry right now.

My phone is ringing off the hook with people having issues.

http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on October 12, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
Its ok bbry, I still love you :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: seahawk on October 12, 2011, 02:12:54 PM
There is definitely an issue with Blackberry right now.

My phone is ringing off the hook with people having issues.

http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml

Guess that explains why I couldn't access the Globe and Mail or this site on my phone this morning.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 12, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
There is definitely an issue with Blackberry right now.

My phone is ringing off the hook with people having issues.

http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml

Guess that explains why I couldn't access the Globe and Mail or this site on my phone this morning.

If you have Wifi on your phone and a Wifi hotspot to access, you can still use your non blackberry apps.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 12, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
I was looking at Franson's TSN page and noticed the typo under the trade that brought him here :D

Quote
2011/07/03 Toronto Maple Leafs traded Bredd Lebda and Robert Slaney from the Nashville Predators for Cody Franson and Matthew Lombardi.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on October 12, 2011, 06:47:52 PM
I was looking at Franson's TSN page and noticed the typo under the trade that brought him here :D

Quote
2011/07/03 Toronto Maple Leafs traded Bredd Lebda and Robert Slaney from the Nashville Predators for Cody Franson and Matthew Lombardi.
We should have known from the name he'd be stale.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on October 13, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
So I whipped out the "plum" sauce last night at dinner and happened to look at the ingredients. No surprise, the first ingredient is water. The second ingredient I thought might be sugar but sugar was actually the fourth. So what is the second ingredient you ask?...


... Pumpkin! Yes, pumpkin. So that begs the qusestion. Why isn't "plum" sauce called "pumpkin" sauce? Anyway, I'm calling it "pumpkin sauce" from here on out.     
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 14, 2011, 03:25:37 AM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

This seems like a bunch of college kids protesting just for the sake of protesting without really trying to accomplish anything but get articles written about them.

There's a rally here in St. John's tomorrow, but while I support the idea in theory, I'm not going to spend my Saturday sitting around and whining with other people for no reason.   Newsflash: poor people don't like being poor and unemployed people want jobs.   Do we really need to protest to send government the message that we want more money and better jobs?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 14, 2011, 05:15:32 AM
Everytime there is any protest everyone just says it is "a bunch of college kids."  I've seen a pretty wide spectrum of society represented in these.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 14, 2011, 05:37:24 AM
That comment wasn't really about the demographic makeup of the protesters.   I just get the impression that they're full of piss and vinegar and want to change the world without actually doing anything.   Stereotypical qualities of college kid protesters.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 14, 2011, 05:44:48 AM
Ahh gotcha now, I see.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on October 14, 2011, 08:18:04 AM
That comment wasn't really about the demographic makeup of the protesters.   I just get the impression that they're full of piss and vinegar and want to change the world without actually doing anything.   Stereotypical qualities of college kid protesters.

I read an article (CNN I think), these protests are trying to mimic the Team Party rallies (back when it first started and it hadn't become a lobby group yet).  The difference is the Tea Party demographic was a bunch of people who would go out and vote. 

Maybe these protesters prove me wrong, but I'm not expecting them to show up and enact change through democracy.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

That's the problem with a lot of protests these days. Little to no discernible cause or goal, confusion over what they're protesting, etc. It's a shame, too, because, these guys have done a great job of organizing what could be a very influential group - one that could conceivably accomplish something - but, I can't help but feel like they've sort of dropped the ball here.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 11:49:12 AM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

That's the problem with a lot of protests these days. Little to no discernible cause or goal, confusion over what they're protesting, etc. It's a shame, too, because, these guys have done a great job of organizing what could be a very influential group - one that could conceivably accomplish something - but, I can't help but feel like they've sort of dropped the ball here.

What really irks me is the amount of Marx these people throw out there. I'm left of center and I agree that unfettered capitalism isn't the answer and Marx makes some good points, but even Engels himself stated his Manifesto was outdated by the turn of the century. I'm just so tired of intellectuals using theory as if it's reality and the cure all for our social ills. Show me a working model as opposed to "Capitalism is evil."

I think Keynes did a pretty good job at placing safety nets in his capitalist theory. I think people think that Milton Friedman's capitalism is the only one out there.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Manson on October 14, 2011, 12:08:38 PM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

This seems like a bunch of college kids protesting just for the sake of protesting without really trying to accomplish anything but get articles written about them.

There's a rally here in St. John's tomorrow, but while I support the idea in theory, I'm not going to spend my Saturday sitting around and whining with other people for no reason.   Newsflash: poor people don't like being poor and unemployed people want jobs.   Do we really need to protest to send government the message that we want more money and better jobs?

I've been saying the same thing.  I'm trying to figure out exactly what they're protesting.  They are very vague when giving reasons.  I've heard, "We want the government to step in and level the financial playing field".  Okay there.

From what I gather, though, it looks like a collection of society's finest who are angry that they never accomplished or amounted to anything and are taking it out on the global corporate environment and/or the government.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on October 14, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
I want all who participate in the protests to be registered somehow - that way when they earn any money we can all lay claim to our fair share right?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on October 14, 2011, 12:41:56 PM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

That's the problem with a lot of protests these days. Little to no discernible cause or goal, confusion over what they're protesting, etc. It's a shame, too, because, these guys have done a great job of organizing what could be a very influential group - one that could conceivably accomplish something - but, I can't help but feel like they've sort of dropped the ball here.

RABBLE RABBLE!

Protesters these days indeed.  Back when WE were protesting, we had a reason! And a goal! And we got what we wanted from the man!


Of course back then I also wore an onion on my belt.....
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2011, 12:58:52 PM
RABBLE RABBLE!

Protesters these days indeed.  Back when WE were protesting, we had a reason! And a goal! And we got what we wanted from the man!


Of course back then I also wore an onion on my belt.....

Jokes aside, the fact is, it's largely true. In the 60s, the major protests had clear goals - equal rights for all, regardless of skin colour, race, gender etc; stop the war in Vietnam, and so on. People knew exactly what the protesters wanted and what they were protesting. These days, the cause has become blurred, there's less unity among the protesters and their demands are . . . well, I'm not sure they even know what their demands are.

And, for the record, I don't tend to protest and you're older than I am. :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 01:06:34 PM
Maybe these protesters prove me wrong, but I'm not expecting them to show up and enact change through democracy.

But that's always going to be the goal. Protests make the news, news coverage informs the discussion, the discussion affects voting. The idea that protests of the 60's were somehow in and of themselves the catalyst for change or that they had any more specific policy initiatives other than OWS' goal of addressing the disparity of wealth in the western world strikes me as rose-coloured hindsight.

It's a fledgling movement that is in the process of asserting itself. Criticizing them for not having a policy platform already strikes me as holding them to a standard that not many movements would meet.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 01:29:22 PM
Maybe these protesters prove me wrong, but I'm not expecting them to show up and enact change through democracy.

But that's always going to be the goal. Protests make the news, news coverage informs the discussion, the discussion affects voting. The idea that protests of the 60's were somehow in and of themselves the catalyst for change or that they had any more specific policy initiatives other than OWS' goal of addressing the disparity of wealth in the western world strikes me as rose-coloured hindsight.

It's a fledgling movement that is in the process of asserting itself. Criticizing them for not having a policy platform already strikes me as holding them to a standard that not many movements would meet.

Yeah, but until the political climate of America shifts to the middle you're going to have the far right vs. left of centre and far left. And the ethos of America has basically been "leave me alone, don't take my money." The majority of Americans don't want tax increases but want better services. They want a social safety net without paying for it. Now that people are on hard times and they want help, they simply can't get any.

People will say that the money that went to the bailouts should've went to the people. Well, to be perfectly honest, without the bailouts everyone would be a lot worse off than they are now.

And while I agree America needs tighter controls and regulation and should work for the people, the people need to come together first and bridge the gaps between each other first. You have a dismal approval rating from Congress right now, but yet you have such strong support for one of the most divisive figures in American politics right now in Rick Perry. I think the powder keg hasn't even exploded yet.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 01:40:50 PM
People will say that the money that went to the bailouts should've went to the people. Well, to be perfectly honest, without the bailouts everyone would be a lot worse off than they are now.

It depends on which bailouts you mean. Some were probably beneficial to the economy, others just capitalized banks without having strict assurances that those banks would then unfreeze their lending. A strong case could be made that nationalizing those banks and getting them to lend out the bailout money or "give it to the people" would have done much, much more to staunch the collapse and increase the speed of recovery.

You have a dismal approval rating from Congress right now, but yet you have such strong support for one of the most divisive figures in American politics right now in Rick Perry. I think the powder keg hasn't even exploded yet.

Such strong support? He's polling at an average of 13.7 percent in the Republican primary. Even if you assume that a Republican primary comprises 50% of the voters that works out to under 7 percent nationally. That seems like a pretty good working definition of fringe.

And there are lots of things that do have broad based support that the OWS' movement seems built around. Every poll I've seen about raising the taxes on the highest income bracket back to Clinton-era levels tends to be at 65% or higher.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Manson on October 14, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 01:58:42 PM
Clinton's quote in Rolling Stone:

"I think that, on balance, this [protest] can be a positive thing, but they’re going to have to transfer their energies at some point to making some specific suggestions ... to put the country back to work," he said. A good place to start: Obama's jobs plan. "They need to be for something specific and not just against something because if you’re just against something, somebody else will fill the vacuum you create," he said.


Totally agree with this, however it's a hard thing to achieve. People are better at identifying things they dislike rather than solutions that could work. However, I also think it's somewhat unfair to look at the protestors for a solution. I think they have some ideas for what a solution could look like but ultimately its up to Congress to actually work together to perform the will of the people. I think it can be done though. There needs support for initiatives that can curtail some of the banks' unfettered policies.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 02:09:44 PM
Clinton's quote in Rolling Stone:

"I think that, on balance, this [protest] can be a positive thing, but they’re going to have to transfer their energies at some point to making some specific suggestions ... to put the country back to work," he said. A good place to start: Obama's jobs plan. "They need to be for something specific and not just against something because if you’re just against something, somebody else will fill the vacuum you create," he said.


Totally agree with this, however it's a hard thing to achieve. People are better at identifying things they dislike rather than solutions that could work. However, I also think it's somewhat unfair to look at the protestors for a solution. I think they have some ideas for what a solution could look like but ultimately its up to Congress to actually work together to perform the will of the people. I think it can be done though. There needs support for initiatives that can curtail some of the banks' unfettered policies.

I think that's bogus. The Tea Party never made any specific policy agenda. "Cut spending" is no more specific than "Regulate the banks". The only thing this movement needs to be effective is to be a cohesive voting block.

And something tells me that the people in OWS aren't terribly concerned with making their movement positive in Bill Clinton's eyes. Clinton is as responsible as anyone for the way the treasury department became a lobbying extension of investment banks.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on October 14, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.   
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Manson on October 14, 2011, 02:23:27 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
Can someone explain to me what this Occupy Wall Street thing is all about?   I can't figure out what their goal is.   I understand that they don't like corporate greed, but how is camping out going to accomplish anything?

Even the website doesn't say anything about what they want.   The about (http://occupywallst.org/about/) page doesn't say anything about what their goal is, it's just all about what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Have they made any requests?   How do "We, the people of the United States of America, considering the crisis at hand," plan to "now reassert our sovereign control of our land."?

That's the problem with a lot of protests these days. Little to no discernible cause or goal, confusion over what they're protesting, etc. It's a shame, too, because, these guys have done a great job of organizing what could be a very influential group - one that could conceivably accomplish something - but, I can't help but feel like they've sort of dropped the ball here.



Of course back then I also wore an onion on my belt.....

Was it the style at the time?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess

Maybe he was trying to prove to the cop that hippies DO wear deoderant?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on October 14, 2011, 03:14:05 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess

It's pretty hard to tell from a still, I mean looking at the cop pulling his arm he could have fallen off balance ( the still image could also suggest he was trying to stop the other cop from falling ) or maybe he was clothes lining him for no reason ( seems about as likely unless the cop nurpled a friend of his or something ) It seems like proof of a scuffle... past that?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 03:20:53 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess

It's pretty hard to tell from a still, I mean looking at the cop pulling his arm he could have fallen off balance ( the still image could also suggest he was trying to stop the other cop from falling ) or maybe he was clothes lining him for no reason ( seems about as likely unless the cop nurpled a friend of his or something ) It seems like proof of a scuffle... past that?

I'm pretty sure that's a still photo of this video

http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001 (http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001)

If you look real hard you can see the guy in question in the blue shirt jumping at the cop seconds after the cop runs up behind a protester and decks him in the head.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on October 14, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
If you didn't say so I'm not sure I could have said with any certainty that was the same situation, tough to make out the guy in blue but if it is and he was jumping in on the other guys behalf then fair enough. I watched the interview on that site with the guy who appears to be getting clobbered by the cop initially and he wasn't arrested and didn't seem to know why he was assaulted, fwiw.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 03:42:26 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess

It's pretty hard to tell from a still, I mean looking at the cop pulling his arm he could have fallen off balance ( the still image could also suggest he was trying to stop the other cop from falling ) or maybe he was clothes lining him for no reason ( seems about as likely unless the cop nurpled a friend of his or something ) It seems like proof of a scuffle... past that?

I'm pretty sure that's a still photo of this video

http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001 (http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001)

If you look real hard you can see the guy in question in the blue shirt jumping at the cop seconds after the cop runs up behind a protester and decks him in the head.

The never ending "The Whole World is Watching" chant makes them sound like a cracked out cult.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 03:44:09 PM
Yeah, not him. The guy's in a green shirt, not blue.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 03:44:42 PM
The never ending "The Whole World is Watching" chant makes them sound like a cracked out cult.

It's just an old-timey reference.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 14, 2011, 03:46:40 PM
Yeah, not him. The guy's in a green shirt, not blue.

Nobody is saying that the guy in the picture is the guy getting hit. He jumps in afterwards.

edit: if you pause the video at three and at four seconds in you clearly see the guy who jumps the cop walking past the camera, in front of the guy the cop hits.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
Yeah, not him. The guy's in a green shirt, not blue.

Nobody is saying that the guy in the picture is the guy getting hit. He jumps in afterwards.

edit: if you pause the video at three and at four seconds in you clearly see the guy who jumps the cop walking past the camera, in front of the guy the cop hits.

Sorry, yeah, you're right. He jumps in just ahead of the other blue shirted protester. I'd like to hear/see what happened for the officer to deck that guy.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on October 14, 2011, 03:58:15 PM
Yeah, not him. The guy's in a green shirt, not blue.

Nobody is saying that the guy in the picture is the guy getting hit. He jumps in afterwards.

edit: if you pause the video at three and at four seconds in you clearly see the guy who jumps the cop walking past the camera, in front of the guy the cop hits.

Sorry, yeah, you're right. He jumps in just ahead of the other blue shirted protester. I'd like to hear/see what happened for the officer to deck that guy.

Probably the same thing - it was a one punch domino thrown earlier that morning
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on October 14, 2011, 04:05:59 PM
The never ending "The Whole World is Watching" chant makes them sound like a cracked out cult.

Wonder what others make of a good 'ol Go Leafs Go chant...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on October 14, 2011, 04:16:28 PM
Another peaceful protestor becomes the victim of police brutality

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/79/protester.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/protester.jpg/)

Ooh I'm sure that cop did something to provoke him and fully deserved that clothesline.

Poking him with a cattle prod is my guess

It's pretty hard to tell from a still, I mean looking at the cop pulling his arm he could have fallen off balance ( the still image could also suggest he was trying to stop the other cop from falling ) or maybe he was clothes lining him for no reason ( seems about as likely unless the cop nurpled a friend of his or something ) It seems like proof of a scuffle... past that?

I'm pretty sure that's a still photo of this video

http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001 (http://www.thestreet.com/video/11277783/occupy-wall-street-vs-police-fighting-breaks-out-as-protesters-march-down-broadway.html#1217881026001)

If you look real hard you can see the guy in question in the blue shirt jumping at the cop seconds after the cop runs up behind a protester and decks him in the head.

The never ending "The Whole World is Watching" chant makes them sound like a cracked out cult.

Look out.  An online petition has been signed by 7,000 Canadians against the choice to clear out the park so Brookfield can clean it.

I mean, what can you do to stop them if they have gone to online petitions?
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Post by: Mordac on October 14, 2011, 06:39:20 PM
I don't see the problem here...do you? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/marijuana-candy_n_1003184.html)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 15, 2011, 09:55:26 AM
I don't see the problem here...do you?
 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/marijuana-candy_n_1003184.html)

Wtf?

As stated in the article, I am also surprised it took this long before someone raised a concern about it, I can understand this being sold in stores that sell pipes and what not, but in grocery stores to kids?
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Post by: Bender on October 15, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Re: Occupy Toronto: This guy lashing out at big pharma. Need to look at alternative health care, even "shamanism," he says. "We will spiral out if we do not take care of this health problem.

Yes, shamanism is clearly the answer. Maybe he's a fringe guy, but still. I don't believe in people advocating snake oil methods of treatment, I think it's downright despicable. I'm not saying that botched operations and prescription drugs don't have the possibility to kill people, but to turn away from tested methods with chances of survival for "even shamanism"?

While I agree that there are issues with social inequality and jobs, I don't see how protesting will help people get jobs, I just don't. Moreover, there's not much to protest about our Canadian banking system, which seems to be pretty conservative. I know a few people working in the financial sector and they aren't out to swindle people. Moreover, one in particular started from nothing, from an immigrant family and began working during the recession of the late 80s. He's now doing very well for himself, but I have a feeling people don't really care about the back story. He's well off now, so he's clearly the enemy.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 15, 2011, 04:05:43 PM
Re: Occupy Toronto: This guy lashing out at big pharma. Need to look at alternative health care, even "shamanism," he says. "We will spiral out if we do not take care of this health problem.

He's either an idiot or a con artist.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 15, 2011, 04:10:33 PM
While I agree that there are issues with social inequality and jobs, I don't see how protesting will help people get jobs, I just don't.

The goal is to bring about the political changes that would result in a more equitable society. This isn't a job interview.
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Post by: Tigger on October 15, 2011, 05:15:22 PM
Yes, shamanism is clearly the answer. Maybe he's a fringe guy, but still. I don't believe in people advocating snake oil methods of treatment, I think it's downright despicable. I'm not saying that botched operations and prescription drugs don't have the possibility to kill people, but to turn away from tested methods with chances of survival for "even shamanism"?

That's a pretty narrow view, I doubt you've done much reading or investigation of what that term and how it applies really means. Western medicine is obviously rooted in the scientific method and that's what we're used to for the most part ( and yes, thankfully in many ways ) but to lump an incredibly large part of world societal belief and action into 'snake oil' euphemisms serves no purpose to me, it's as bad as lumping medical malpractice insinuations onto every MD or suggesting openly that the Catholic Church is just another cult or that every banker is a greedy despicable sob.

I don't know him but what the guy seems to be saying is that alternative health care choices should be investigated which is difficult for me to outright disagree with and I think you're kind of changing the focus by going after Shamanism, it was a tag notion to the greater point.

Usually when someone says 'even...x' they mean it's admittedly/probably on the fringe.
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Post by: Bender on October 15, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
While I agree that there are issues with social inequality and jobs, I don't see how protesting will help people get jobs, I just don't.

The goal is to bring about the political changes that would result in a more equitable society. This isn't a job interview.

Ok, but this wouldn't happen during a boom market imo. If everyone had more jobs and job security and we were out of the recession we would never see something like this happen. So to some degree this protest is about job security.

And for more of a side note: I also believe in creating a more equitable society but when you carry around pictures of Marx like he's a saviour then I think some of the debate shifts beyond what is equitable and into a whole other mode of production, that quite clearly clashes with what we have today. Maybe the intent is that he's a role model for change, but, to be honest, he's a very divisive figure.

And just to add a bit: Everyone is talking about inequality: The inequality of what? Everything currently?

New chant: "they say cut backs, we say fight back."

To what end? Do we want higher taxation on corporations? The wealthiest Canadians? Because the answer isn't that simple when your province is bleeding money and is up to its eyeballs in debt right now and going through a recession to boot.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/commentary/neil-reynolds/ontario-like-california-going-for-broke/article1684035/


Maybe I'm not one for general sloganeering, or maybe I'm misinterpreting their zeal as a lack of focus, but I think the discussion should start with a shift in philosophy from laissez-faire capitalist economics and a move back to Keyenesian economic policy which did a better job of bucking recessions. We also have gross mismanagement of finances. In times of economic boom you have to restrain yourself from overburdening yourself with projects and initiatives that you'll have to cut during a recession, and you've got to make sure you save some of the money during a boom market to pay for job creation initiatives during a recession. It's this utter failure of looking forward that has caused this problem.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 15, 2011, 05:50:48 PM
Ok, but this wouldn't happen during a boom market imo.

It depends on what you mean by a boom market. The reality is that the Dow Jones or TSE aren't terrific economic indicators for a lot of people. If it was something more central to the lives of most people, like the median household income compared to the cost of living you might be right but that's like saying anti-war protests are pointless because nobody would show up if there weren't any wars. 

If everyone had more jobs and job security and we were out of the recession we would never see something like this happen.

I don't think that's true. Unemployment has risen...1 percent? 2 percent in the last few years? I don't think that the breaking point is whether 92% of people are employed or 90%. I think it's the more pressing issues that affect the majority of people.

And for more of a side note: I also believe in creating a more equitable society but when you carry around pictures of Marx like he's a saviour then I think some of the debate shifts beyond what is equitable and into a whole other mode of production, that quite clearly clashes with what we have today.


First off, I haven't seen a ton of people claiming Marxist ideologies as being central to the OWS movement.

But if they are, so what? It's no more important that these people to be completely up on The Communist Manifesto than it was that the Tea Party have read Wealth of Nations or John Locke. At issue is whether or not they can unify a grassroots movement into an organized political voting block.

And just to add a bit: Everyone is talking about inequality: The inequality of what? Everything currently?

At a guess, economic disparity and political access. 

To what end? Do we want higher taxation on corporations? The wealthiest Canadians? Because the answer isn't that simple when your province is bleeding money and is up to its eyeballs in debt right now and going through a recession to boot.

I don't think anyone would look at those things as the be all and end all of the movement but they're probably good starts. 
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Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 16, 2011, 02:03:51 PM
I had heard that one of the occupy wall street points was to establish a $20 an hour minimum wage. Not sure where I heard this or if it's even true.
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Post by: Bates on October 16, 2011, 02:31:54 PM
Minimum wage can increase as much as anyone wants and it will never be enough money to give someone a good quality of life.  As min wage increasese so does all other wages and thus the prices of all goods also increase leading to min wage not being enough to live off.  It's a viscious cycle that only gets better with moving yourself above the min wage job market.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 17, 2011, 04:52:02 AM
There's an article in the paper this morning about Occupy Newfoundland which took place this weekend.   They interviewed the lead organizer, and asked him about the criticism that their goals are vague and unrealistic.   The organizer fella disagreed, then went on to state that the clear, realistic goal was to make people think for themselves and not put blind faith in politicians.

Which still seems vague and unrealistic to me.
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Post by: L K on October 17, 2011, 08:32:33 AM
Yes, shamanism is clearly the answer. Maybe he's a fringe guy, but still. I don't believe in people advocating snake oil methods of treatment, I think it's downright despicable. I'm not saying that botched operations and prescription drugs don't have the possibility to kill people, but to turn away from tested methods with chances of survival for "even shamanism"?

That's a pretty narrow view, I doubt you've done much reading or investigation of what that term and how it applies really means. Western medicine is obviously rooted in the scientific method and that's what we're used to for the most part ( and yes, thankfully in many ways ) but to lump an incredibly large part of world societal belief and action into 'snake oil' euphemisms serves no purpose to me, it's as bad as lumping medical malpractice insinuations onto every MD or suggesting openly that the Catholic Church is just another cult or that every banker is a greedy despicable sob.

I don't know him but what the guy seems to be saying is that alternative health care choices should be investigated which is difficult for me to outright disagree with and I think you're kind of changing the focus by going after Shamanism, it was a tag notion to the greater point.

Usually when someone says 'even...x' they mean it's admittedly/probably on the fringe.

The problem is that if you don't regulate the profession that a lot of snake-oil salesmanship sneaks in among the stuff that has actual benefit.  The next problem is that a lot of the alternative stuff will fight tooth and nail to avoid the same regulatory requirements that "Western medicine" have.  You can't have it both ways.  If pharmaceuticals didn't have to go through 5 phases of clinical trials on top of dozens of failed attempts to develop a drug in the first place they wouldn't be nearly as expensive as people hate them to be.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 17, 2011, 09:01:15 AM
Minimum wage can increase as much as anyone wants and it will never be enough money to give someone a good quality of life.  As min wage increasese so does all other wages and thus the prices of all goods also increase leading to min wage not being enough to live off.  It's a viscious cycle that only gets better with moving yourself above the min wage job market.

That's really not true. Ontario recently saw a significant increase to its minimum wage and didn't see a corresponding bump in inflation anything resembling what you're describing.
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Post by: Bates on October 17, 2011, 09:27:22 AM
Take a look at SK as a real better example Nik.  They starting drastic increases in min wage about 3 or 4 years ago.  House prices have since doubled.  Almost every Govt Union has been on strike or threathened job action for major wage increases.  Property taxes have increased by large amounts every year.  I actually run a retail pet store and while I would agree that prices and such did not instantly increase, as that would drive customers away, I have found myself constantly adjusting prices to cope with increased costs from products and staff.  The same bag of dog food that I sold for $40 4 years ago is now almost $70.

When min wage was under $7 per hour here about 5 years ago I ran a 15,000 sq/ft store with payroll at about $15K every 2 weeks.  I now run a 5000 sq/ft store with payroll at around $13K every 2 weeks.  How do you think this increase in payroll gets paid for?  Price increases and margin increases.

The prob with min wage increases is the effect it has on all wages.  If the guy making $7 per hour gets a Govt mandated increase to $10 per hour do you think the guy now getting $10 per hour will be happy keeping that wage?  How about the the $20 per hour guy?  All wages start to increase slowly after every min wage increase.  Now the cost of everything has to increase and eventually(months) min wage once again leads to min wage earners don't make enough for decent quality of life.

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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 17, 2011, 09:53:22 AM
Take a look at SK as a real better example Nik.

One isn't a better example because it backs up your point. Back in the day I looked at this issue pretty extensively and it's just a stark reality that increases to the minimum wage don't lead to corresponding bumps in inflation or the CPI the way you're claiming they do. Those things tend to hang on various other factors such as the general health of the economy.

Admittedly, I don't know a ton about the dog food business but I have to assume that the same massive bump that most commodities have seen plays a pretty substantial role in whatever price increases it's seen. All food prices are raising disproportionately with just about anything else in the world.
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Post by: Bates on October 17, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
SK is a better example because there has been enough time pass since massive increases to see what the effects were.  You stated that Ont"s increases were recent so I would guess not enough time to see changes I have seen in SK.  Can you honestly tell me that a huge increase in one of the imput costs of any product such as wages will not lead to an increase in the price of that product?  And can you again tell me that all wage earners above min wage will just happily keep their present wages while min wage earners get a large Govt mandated wage increase? 
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 17, 2011, 10:25:25 AM
SK is a better example because there has been enough time pass since massive increases to see what the effects were.  You stated that Ont"s increases were recent so I would guess not enough time to see changes I have seen in SK.

Well, you know what they say about assumptions. Gradual increases to the minimum wage in Ontario started in 2007 so if your "three or four years ago" is bang on then it's been the same stretch of time.

Can you honestly tell me that a huge increase in one of the imput costs of any product such as wages will not lead to an increase in the price of that product?

Well, the general calculation of inflation is price against purchasing power so the argument supported by the numbers is that the input costs are balanced by the subsequent bump in purchasing power.

And can you again tell me that all wage earners above min wage will just happily keep their present wages while min wage earners get a large Govt mandated wage increase?

You're making an economic argument with words here. How are these things measured? What has happened to the median wage in Sask post-minimum wage bump? Personal anecdotal evidence is fine and dandy but the reality of wide sweeping policy like the minimum wage is that it will affect different businesses differently.
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Post by: Bates on October 17, 2011, 10:31:50 AM
I think below you have essentially agreed with my arguement that increses in min wage will do nothing for the min wage worker in terms of purchasing power.  as min wage increases so do the costs of the very products/services they need to purchase.  It's a chicken/egg scenerio.  What goes up first prices or wages.  Either way I will stick to my thought that min wage will never be an income that someone can live a decent quiality of life on.



Well, the general calculation of inflation is price against purchasing power so the argument supported by the numbers is that the input costs are balanced by the subsequent bump in purchasing power.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 17, 2011, 10:41:26 AM
I think below you have essentially agreed with my arguement that increses in min wage will do nothing for the min wage worker in terms of purchasing power.

Quite the opposite, I'm afraid. I'm saying that the lack of evidence of the kind of inflation rate increase you're talking about makes a compelling argument that purchasing power does increase with a minimum wage increase provided you're right about the increase of production costs.

  It's a chicken/egg scenerio.  What goes up first prices or wages.  Either way I will stick to my thought that min wage will never be an income that someone can live a decent quiality of life on.

Again, it's an economic argument. If these things are established fact, there would be evidence for them. There isn't really.

The problem with the minimum wage has been that for years and years the CPI jumped as per the natural ways of things while minimum wage remained stagnant. Increasing the minimum wage to accurately reflect it's purpose as a social policy doesn't have immediate or certain repercussions.
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Post by: Tigger on October 17, 2011, 06:30:11 PM
The problem is that if you don't regulate the profession that a lot of snake-oil salesmanship sneaks in among the stuff that has actual benefit.  The next problem is that a lot of the alternative stuff will fight tooth and nail to avoid the same regulatory requirements that "Western medicine" have.  You can't have it both ways.  If pharmaceuticals didn't have to go through 5 phases of clinical trials on top of dozens of failed attempts to develop a drug in the first place they wouldn't be nearly as expensive as people hate them to be.

First off I agree that any alternatives embraced in such a fashion need to be regulated but I also don't hold my breath that such regulations are immune to Quacks and charlatans, see Larry Stowe and Dr. Frank Morales as an example.

On the whole I don't think we really disagree here I just don't like the 'dirty word' factor.
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Post by: You're right on October 18, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
Toronto did not seem quite occupied enough.....so I did my part by staying in "the stall" a little longer today.

Stickin' it to the man ;D
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 18, 2011, 05:39:28 PM

Calvin and Hobbes brilliantly sums up the OWS movement decades beforehand:

Supply and Demand (http://slyoyster.hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/cJJ7l.jpg)
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 19, 2011, 06:40:31 PM
So the rule is to tip your waitress 15%.

What about taxi drivers?
What about pizza delivery guys?
What about when you go to pick up takeout, and the debit machine asks you to enter a tip?
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Post by: Nik the Trik on October 19, 2011, 06:47:50 PM
So the rule is to tip your waitress 15%.

What about taxi drivers?
What about pizza delivery guys?
What about when you go to pick up takeout, and the debit machine asks you to enter a tip?

I don't know if there's as established a protocol for those first two things as there is for a server at a restaurant. Personally
I wouldn't tip anyone if I were ordering take-out. Typically with delivery/cab drivers my tip will be more about rounding up than it will trying to work out a percentage as I don't want to fumble with change in either situation.
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Post by: Ronco on October 19, 2011, 10:24:32 PM
Wind storm. Put out your Blue bin share your plastic with the neighborhood, or go out on the street several times grabbing items you "Know" are yours and like a fool try to put said item back in blue bin.

Repeat.

Next day no wind at all. Never fails.
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Post by: Stebro on October 20, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
Hurray! One of the channels I have will broadcast all NHL-games soon in Sweden. Which should mean that I can watch the leafs all the time, unfortunately they will start with that after New Years, but I'm gonna go nuts when it starts. It will be interesting to work on a few hours of sleep on a regular basis again :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 20, 2011, 02:23:43 PM
Hurray! One of the channels I have will broadcast all NHL-games soon in Sweden. Which should mean that I can watch the leafs all the time, unfortunately they will start with that after New Years, but I'm gonna go nuts when it starts. It will be interesting to work on a few hours of sleep on a regular basis again :)

Awesome! Too bad it wasn't starting New Years Eve with the Leafs and Jets game though!

If you ever need a site to watch games online, a pretty good one is:

www.firstrowsports.com
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Post by: bustaheims on October 21, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
So, what time is today's Rapture scheduled for? I don't want to miss it.
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Post by: riff raff on October 23, 2011, 12:13:12 AM
So, what time is today's Rapture scheduled for? I don't want to miss it.

When Reimer disappeared during tonight's game, I thought maybe they were one day off on the date.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 29, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
What goes with gin?   Don't usually drink it, but I'll be throwing em back tomorrow night.   Don't like tonic, thinking maybe grapefruit juice?
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Post by: Potvin29 on October 29, 2011, 01:31:55 AM
A purse as well.

But seriously, maybe this might help: http://www.webtender.com/cgi-bin/imbselect
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 29, 2011, 01:51:33 AM
Gin's a girly drink?   I guess I should skip the cherries and umbrella I was gonna have with it...
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Post by: Potvin29 on October 29, 2011, 01:59:53 AM
Gin's a girly drink?   I guess I should skip the cherries and umbrella I was gonna have with it...

I meant with the grapefruit juice, I quite like gin & tonic (although I was told it was a "girly drink" before).  I don't care.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on October 29, 2011, 02:17:19 AM
The only thing that came to mind when thinking of gin was Gin & Tonic and Gin & Juice, from that Snoop Dogg song.   Don't really like tonic or orange juice.

Maybe I'll just drink it with coke, then I can pretend it's something cool.
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Post by: The Red Polar Bear on October 29, 2011, 03:25:53 AM
I hate gin, but I've heard that Gin and Ginger is pretty good.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 29, 2011, 06:05:57 AM
What goes with gin?   Don't usually drink it, but I'll be throwing em back tomorrow night.   Don't like tonic, thinking maybe grapefruit juice?

Juice, 7-up, anything with a sweet taste to it.

Gin is pretty good.
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Post by: Madferret on October 29, 2011, 06:13:30 AM
Drinking Gin & Tonic...feeling Supersonic...
or
Rolling down the street smoking endo....sipping on Gin & Juice...
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Post by: Mordac on October 29, 2011, 12:38:05 PM
Lots of excellent beverages can be made with gin!

http://www.drinkoftheweek.com/category/drink-recipes/gin-drink-recipes/

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Post by: Drunk Leaf Fan on October 29, 2011, 04:53:19 PM
This is timely, I've been meaning to get in to gin. Apparently Hendrick's is the good stuff.

Anyone, anyone?
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Post by: Madferret on October 29, 2011, 07:34:44 PM
This is timely, I've been meaning to get in to gin. Apparently Hendrick's is the good stuff.

Anyone, anyone?


I've been drinking gin & tonics since I was a kid, proper like.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 31, 2011, 08:06:45 AM
THink I am rundown from work 13 hours a day or longer each day over the last 4 weeks, taking a sick day to recover.
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Post by: sucka on October 31, 2011, 08:14:48 AM
THink I am rundown from work 13 hours a day or longer each day over the last 4 weeks, taking a sick day to recover.

I'm off todAy, but to gear up for exactly what you had.  12-14 hr days all throughout November, weekends included.  It always takes a toll because when I'm working into the evening, it's hard to be able to fall asleep even when I'm tired.
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Post by: Madferret on October 31, 2011, 02:50:03 PM
Anyone doing Movember?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.
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Post by: Corn Flake on October 31, 2011, 03:08:04 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

cheater!  Supposed to start with a clean slate for Movember. 

And yea.. I'm doing Movember. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on October 31, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.
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Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

cheater!  Supposed to start with a clean slate for Movember. 

And yea.. I'm doing Movember.

 ;) Does it still count if I keep the full beard though? 
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Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

 >:( Well I guess I'm not doing Movember then.
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Post by: Madferret on October 31, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

 >:( Well I guess I'm not doing Movember then.

That was quite the circle Floyd.
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Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

 >:( Well I guess I'm not doing Movember then.

That was quite the circle Floyd.

My kingdom for a bearded emoticon!
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Post by: Madferret on October 31, 2011, 03:26:56 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

 >:( Well I guess I'm not doing Movember then.

That was quite the circle Floyd.

My kingdom for a bearded emoticon!

What's with the offline status?
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Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

 >:( Well I guess I'm not doing Movember then.

That was quite the circle Floyd.

My kingdom for a bearded emoticon!

What's with the offline status?

I was fiddling around a few days ago... Must have changed that setting. Got something against bearded ninjas?
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Post by: Corn Flake on October 31, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

cheater!  Supposed to start with a clean slate for Movember. 

And yea.. I'm doing Movember.

 ;) Does it still count if I keep the full beard though?

Keep the beard, just shave the mustache area...  you would be the winner of Movember by default.
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Post by: Corn Flake on October 31, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

Your face will appreciate the treatment your legs have been getting for years.
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Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:34:54 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

cheater!  Supposed to start with a clean slate for Movember. 

And yea.. I'm doing Movember.

 ;) Does it still count if I keep the full beard though?

Keep the beard, just shave the mustache area...  you would be the winner of Movember by default.

My wife would love that  ::) I'm surprised she still lets me touch her with the beard. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 31, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
I'm just glad my husband doesn't participate. I hate hate HATE facial hair on men. Blech! Ptooie!! yuck!

:D

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Post by: Corn Flake on October 31, 2011, 03:54:42 PM
I'm just glad my husband doesn't participate. I hate hate HATE facial hair on men. Blech! Ptooie!! yuck!

:D

Mine would feel the same - except that I'm actually trying to raise money for prostate cancer research and not just doing it for fun - so she lets it slide.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on October 31, 2011, 03:56:57 PM
I'm just glad my husband doesn't participate. I hate hate HATE facial hair on men. Blech! Ptooie!! yuck!

:D

I don't care for it much on women either.  ;)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 31, 2011, 04:36:43 PM

I'm doing it. Getting the rest of the male half of the family in on it. I'm probably going to go with the ol' biker stache just to emphasize the ridiculousness and drive those donations up.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on October 31, 2011, 05:20:39 PM
Anyone doing Movember?

I've been rockin'  a full beard for a couple weeks now... Does that count? I've been asked if it was for Movember a few times now.

No - I'm a lazy shaver myself but I'm going to groom and quaffe the stash and shave daily.

Your face will appreciate the treatment your legs have been getting for years.

You mean my cankles - you always get the two mixed up.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 31, 2011, 05:29:41 PM
Anyone in the St. John's area should send their kids treat or treating at my house.   Been living her for five years, never had any kids show up.   Tonight, I've gotten six of 'em, and I'm woefully underprepared.

I've been giving out toonies, because I have no candy or anything to give them.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Frank E on October 31, 2011, 05:58:23 PM
Anyone in the St. John's area should send their kids treat or treating at my house.   Been living her for five years, never had any kids show up.   Tonight, I've gotten six of 'em, and I'm woefully underprepared.

I've been giving out toonies, because I have no candy or anything to give them.

Just park Skippy's mom on your porch. 

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 31, 2011, 07:13:09 PM

I've only gotten three trick or treaters and I bought a package of 90 bite size chocolate bars to give out. I'm really tempted to just start handing out handfuls of the things so I don't wind up with a ton of candy left on my hands.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on October 31, 2011, 07:59:27 PM
50 kids so far here. Only a couple of candies left. I might have to dig into the handful I saved for myself, for shame!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 01, 2011, 01:27:35 AM
New owner at the store, and I need to fill out TD1 tax return forms.   It's all pretty straightforward until it asks me to enter how much I'm going to be paying in tuition for the coming year.

I don't know how much it will cost until I register.   I won't know how many books I'll need to buy or how much they'll cost until I get the course outline.   Do they want me to just guess how much it will cost?   And didn't the tuition freeze end this summer, so the costs won't be the same this winter as they were last semester?

I HATE bull#$#% TAX FORMS
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Kessel Run on November 01, 2011, 09:07:58 AM
New owner at the store, and I need to fill out TD1 tax return forms.   It's all pretty straightforward until it asks me to enter how much I'm going to be paying in tuition for the coming year.

I don't know how much it will cost until I register.   I won't know how many books I'll need to buy or how much they'll cost until I get the course outline.   Do they want me to just guess how much it will cost?   And didn't the tuition freeze end this summer, so the costs won't be the same this winter as they were last semester?

I HATE BULLcrap TAX FORMS

The tuition freeze was extended another three years I believe.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AvroArrow on November 01, 2011, 09:22:53 AM
A little late to respond, but I'm doing Movember this year.  Need to shave tonight after work to clean the slate.

I can't grow facial hair very well, so this is going to be interesting...but, at least, it's for a good cause.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 03, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
I wonder if it's normal to drink as much milk as I do, I basically drink 2 litres every day, and when I was younger and sported a lot, I drank a lot more.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on November 03, 2011, 09:51:10 PM
I can drink like a litre a day, but two litres is a bit much
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on November 03, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
I wonder if it's normal to drink as much milk as I do, I basically drink 2 litres every day, and when I was younger and sported a lot, I drank a lot more.

Do white russians count?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TheMightyOdin on November 03, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
I wonder if it's normal to drink as much milk as I do, I basically drink 2 litres every day, and when I was younger and sported a lot, I drank a lot more.

All from the same breasts?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 03, 2011, 10:48:54 PM
I hardly drink any milk... Maybe a cup's worth every two/three weeks? Is that bad? I do take a daily vitamin though.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on November 03, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
Not bad at all Floyd. I don't drink any milk at all.

The milk industry has to be a testament to effective marketing, because the crap they spout off is hilarious to me. "Studies show Canadians just aren't drinking enough milk" and crap like that.

Need calcium and vitamin C? Eat some broccoli. There are actually studies that show drinking milk LEADS to osteoprosis.

Here's a good summary on why you shouldn't drink that white sludge:
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

I will admit to eating yogurt though. We make our own yogurt at home though, so it's all natural and healthy. Not that anti-biotic, sugar, and artificial sweetener filled crap you get at the grocery store.

Aside from everything above, I many don't drink it because I also hate the taste and texture of it.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 03, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
Okay, cool. Yeah, I probably have 2/3 portions of yogurt a week and I do love my broc.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on November 04, 2011, 08:56:45 AM
Okay, cool. Yeah, I probably have 2/3 portions of yogurt a week and I do love my broc.

For the record, you would have to eat 10 cups of broccoli to get your daily calcium intake.  I wouldn't want to live in your house if you did.  :o

This anti-cow's milk thing has me sleuthing... not sure I buy it yet but worth some investigation.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 04, 2011, 10:28:09 AM
Okay, cool. Yeah, I probably have 2/3 portions of yogurt a week and I do love my broc.

For the record, you would have to eat 10 cups of broccoli to get your daily calcium intake.  I wouldn't want to live in your house if you did.  :o

This anti-cow's milk thing has me sleuthing... not sure I buy it yet but worth some investigation.

Yeah, I don't love it that much.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 04, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
I knock off about a litre of chocolate milk a day...am I going to go blind or something? Lupus? It is lupus?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Peter D. on November 04, 2011, 11:20:04 AM
Let's face it -- nothing is good for us to consume anymore.       
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 04, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
I knock off about a litre of chocolate milk a day...am I going to go blind or something? Lupus? It is lupus?
No, but you may start crapping out milky ways.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 04, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
I knock off about a litre of chocolate milk a day...am I going to go blind or something? Lupus? It is lupus?
No, but you may start crapping out milky ways.

Sounds like a win-win situation !
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on November 04, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
Let's face it -- nothing is good for us to consume anymore.     

Well that's just not true.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 05, 2011, 04:47:18 PM
Do the clocks go back tonight or tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: 4th Liner on November 05, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
Do the clocks go back tonight or tomorrow night?

Tonight - it's always in the wee hours of Sunday morning.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 05, 2011, 04:54:45 PM
Do the clocks go back tonight or tomorrow night?

Tonight - it's always in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

Ah, thanks... An extra hour of sleep tonight! Good thing.... I need to be up @ 4:15 to make it in to work on time.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 05, 2011, 05:45:43 PM
I wonder if it's normal to drink as much milk as I do, I basically drink 2 litres every day, and when I was younger and sported a lot, I drank a lot more.

All from the same breasts?
no, they take turns
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on November 05, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
Let's face it -- nothing is good for us to consume anymore.     

Well that's just not true.

That's true. I've yet to read one report saying anything negative about the frequent consumption of CC reserve.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 05, 2011, 06:21:54 PM
you know that you're really bored and time is passing slowely when you preparing tomorrow's laundry as a desperate measure to pass time before the game
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bates on November 05, 2011, 07:51:28 PM
Alcohol is good for complexion.  It removes pimples, blackheads, and moles from the faces of girls you are looking at.

Let's face it -- nothing is good for us to consume anymore.     

Well that's just not true.

That's true. I've yet to read one report saying anything negative about the frequent consumption of CC reserve.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on November 05, 2011, 09:47:28 PM

It's probably a solid sign that I've had nothing today but whiskey and gummy bears when the newscaster breaking into the college football game says "A toddler dies in a southern tier crash, tonight after college football" and and my reaction is "Oh good, then there's still time to save the child".
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on November 06, 2011, 11:32:23 AM
Alcohol is good for complexion.  It removes pimples, blackheads, and moles from the faces of girls you are looking at.

Let's face it -- nothing is good for us to consume anymore.     

Well that's just not true.

That's true. I've yet to read one report saying anything negative about the frequent consumption of CC reserve.

and thats not all.... it sheds those unwanted pounds as well
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 08, 2011, 10:09:39 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 08, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)

It's 10 in the morning?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 08, 2011, 10:11:59 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)

It's 10 in the morning?
Not over here :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 08, 2011, 10:12:48 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)

It's 10 in the morning?
Not over here :)

Location?
NVM - you are in Sweden yes?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 08, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)

It's 10 in the morning?
Not over here :)

Location?
NVM - you are in Sweden yes?
Yep, that is correct!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 08, 2011, 10:35:38 AM
just had an entire grilled chicken as afternoon snack :)

It's 10 in the morning?
Not over here :)

Location?
NVM - you are in Sweden yes?
Yep, that is correct!

Hail Alfie
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 09, 2011, 02:53:13 AM
My family thinks I'm a jackass for wanting to vacation in Sweden sometime.   I'd love to go over and check out a few hockey games, metal shows and leggy blondes.

Might have to leave them at home and make it a boys' trip.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on November 09, 2011, 08:16:36 AM
I'll come, you paying?

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on November 10, 2011, 09:14:48 AM
I finally watched Slapshot. And figured out what "the foil" is!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: You're right on November 10, 2011, 01:50:58 PM
I finally watched Slapshot. And figured out what "the foil" is!
Really? I find that surprising, but then again I think that movie should be part of every school's curriculum.

Don't watch the sequel.......
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on November 10, 2011, 03:35:11 PM
I finally watched Slapshot. And figured out what "the foil" is!
Really? I find that surprising, but then again I think that movie should be part of every school's curriculum.

Don't watch the sequel.......

Well the movie came out 10 years before I was born sooo... :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 10, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
It's great to be back in my 2nd home (Toronto) !! I can't believe it has almost been 7 months since I have been here :S
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 10, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 12, 2011, 03:25:23 AM
Welcome back!

Thanks, met Kessel today and am going to meet Belfour & Gilmour tomorrow and maybe get to chill with Reimer again, if he is feeling ok, this is turning out to be quite an epic trip thus far :-D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 12, 2011, 09:25:07 AM
Welcome back!

Thanks, met Kessel today and am going to meet Belfour & Gilmour tomorrow and maybe get to chill with Reimer again, if he is feeling ok, this is turning out to be quite an epic trip thus far :-D

... you mean if his Mom says it's okay.  ;)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on November 13, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
im not much for skin products etc, but I do have skin problems that I hate...and most products I have tried are completely crap no matter what the price is...now I have actually found something that I like, it's not perfect, but better than basically everything I have tried...it's a series called bulldog...and no this is no commercial :) I think that the main reason is that it doesn't contain that sodium sulfate whatever crap...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 13, 2011, 09:10:29 PM
30 mins into my flight to Wpg, this plane has free wifi, aboot time Air Canada gets wifi on their planes, its friggin awesome !
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 17, 2011, 02:44:39 AM
I'm having moustache problems.   The biggest moustache I've had before is when I didn't bother shaving for a few days, and now I've got one that's starting to get bushy, and it's driving me crazy.

1. Is there a technique to blowing your nose with a moustache?   It gets all matted and feels disgusting, I have to wash my face every time I blow my nose.

2. How do you get a big moustache without having the problem of the hairs getting in your mouth constantly?   If I trim it, it's just going to stay small and lame.   If I let it go, the hairs curl around my lip, and that sucks too.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AvroArrow on November 17, 2011, 08:50:50 AM
I'm having moustache problems.   The biggest moustache I've had before is when I didn't bother shaving for a few days, and now I've got one that's starting to get bushy, and it's driving me crazy.

1. Is there a technique to blowing your nose with a moustache?   It gets all matted and feels disgusting, I have to wash my face every time I blow my nose.

2. How do you get a big moustache without having the problem of the hairs getting in your mouth constantly?   If I trim it, it's just going to stay small and lame.   If I let it go, the hairs curl around my lip, and that sucks too.

I've had issues with #2 and all I did was trim around the mouth-line (not everything).  Has definitely removed 99% of the annoyance for me.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on November 17, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
I'm having moustache problems.   The biggest moustache I've had before is when I didn't bother shaving for a few days, and now I've got one that's starting to get bushy, and it's driving me crazy.

1. Is there a technique to blowing your nose with a moustache?   It gets all matted and feels disgusting, I have to wash my face every time I blow my nose.

2. How do you get a big moustache without having the problem of the hairs getting in your mouth constantly?   If I trim it, it's just going to stay small and lame.   If I let it go, the hairs curl around my lip, and that sucks too.

It's just like other hair, you can train it.  Get a moustache comb and comb it away from your mouth.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2011, 10:47:22 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AvroArrow on November 18, 2011, 10:55:02 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Deebo on November 18, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

no, they have just added a seperate coffee menu with specialty coffees.

They would never drop the mcdonald's name, it's iconic.

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Deebo on November 18, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on November 18, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
I'm having moustache problems.   The biggest moustache I've had before is when I didn't bother shaving for a few days, and now I've got one that's starting to get bushy, and it's driving me crazy.

1. Is there a technique to blowing your nose with a moustache?   It gets all matted and feels disgusting, I have to wash my face every time I blow my nose.

2. How do you get a big moustache without having the problem of the hairs getting in your mouth constantly?   If I trim it, it's just going to stay small and lame.   If I let it go, the hairs curl around my lip, and that sucks too.

It's just like other hair, you can train it.  Get a moustache comb and comb it away from your mouth.

Wax it, baby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbcwLZQfFKo
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2011, 11:01:09 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

McDonald's coffee is really good now (just my opinion.) Better than Timmy's.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: leafsjunkie on November 18, 2011, 11:32:24 AM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

McDonald's coffee is really good now (just my opinion.) Better than Timmy's.

McDonalds coffee is great now. Tim's blows, I haven't given them a penny in almost a year for their over priced and crappy food/coffee. My coffee ALWAYS tastes burnt from Tim's, they've lost my business for good.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AvroArrow on November 18, 2011, 01:08:57 PM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

I don't drink coffee either.  I didn't specifically mean to say their coffee is crap.  Just calling it crap for no real reason.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on November 18, 2011, 01:23:02 PM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

McDonald's coffee is really good now (just my opinion.) Better than Timmy's.

Mickey D's coffee is awesome.  I hardly go to Tim Hortons anymore.  It's cheaper than Timmy's too.  Even the espresso, latte's and all the like are really good. 
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Post by: Heroic Shrimp on November 18, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
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U.S. Congress is now less popular than the banks, BP during the Gulf oil spill, Paris Hilton, communism, and Hugo Chavez.  But still almost twice as popular as Castro in '08!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 18, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

"I just pass a McDonalds and I have to take a crap..."
- Unknown
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2011, 02:58:24 PM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

"I just pass a McDonalds and I have to take a crap..."
- Unknown

It's "dump"... and that was me.  :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 18, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
McDonald's is McCafe now? Junk mail says McCafe and drive thru employee said welcome to McCafe... They've canned McDonald's handle officially?

I doubt it - probably just promoting their "McCafe" crap.

Do you say crap from experience or is that an assumption?

I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I've heard the drinks are pretty good.

"I just pass a McDonalds and I have to take a crap..."
- Unknown

It's "dump"... and that was me.  :P

lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2011, 03:02:15 PM


lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]

Just being brutally honest... Seriously, outside a McMuffin (no egg) or hash brown, I just can't eat the stuff. It gives me the Barry Trotz.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 18, 2011, 03:03:39 PM


lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]

Just being brutally honest... Seriously, outside a McMuffin (no egg) or hash brown, I just can't eat the stuff. It gives me the Barry Trotz.

lol....wow. Dude we get it!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Erndog on November 18, 2011, 03:05:10 PM


lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]

Just being brutally honest... Seriously, outside a McMuffin (no egg) or hash brown, I just can't eat the stuff. It gives me the Barry Trotz.

You mean the Darren Puppas ;)

And I for one am a sucker for McDonalds. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2011, 03:09:20 PM


lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]

Just being brutally honest... Seriously, outside a McMuffin (no egg) or hash brown, I just can't eat the stuff. It gives me the Barry Trotz.

You mean the Darren Puppas ;)

And I for one am a sucker for McDonalds.

haha!... No, not the Puppas, that would imply something solid  :o... Ferret, so I take it any of my photo finish stories are out of the question then?  :P   
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on November 18, 2011, 03:11:55 PM


lol - you sir are the classiest man here.  ;]

Just being brutally honest... Seriously, outside a McMuffin (no egg) or hash brown, I just can't eat the stuff. It gives me the Barry Trotz.

You mean the Darren Puppas ;)

And I for one am a sucker for McDonalds.

haha!... No, not the Puppas, that would imply something solid  :o... Ferret, so I take it any of my photo finish stories are out of the question then?  :P

Yeah man I'm good I'll just wait for the movie.  :@
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 18, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
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My monitor!!! Please!!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on November 18, 2011, 11:51:27 PM
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Waxing nostalgic, my loyal best friend who passed a couple summers back, miss him.
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Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2011, 07:50:44 AM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 19, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384345_10150435625145260_620950259_10632135_1312799216_n.jpg)

Waxing nostalgic, my loyal best friend who passed a couple summers back, miss him.

wow, what a beautiful dog! 
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 19, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.

that was the same with us. Our first dog was a sudden loss, and we waited about six weeks before getting another. When the second one was failing, we knew it was gonna have to be soon, and finally took him in, both the kids came in (he was 'their' dog growing up) to say good bye that morning. By noon, they were both begging us to get another dog, like NOW.  'The family isn't complete without a dog.'  Miko joined us the following weekend.
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Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2011, 10:18:03 AM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.

that was the same with us. Our first dog was a sudden loss, and we waited about six weeks before getting another. When the second one was failing, we knew it was gonna have to be soon, and finally took him in, both the kids came in (he was 'their' dog growing up) to say good bye that morning. By noon, they were both begging us to get another dog, like NOW.  'The family isn't complete without a dog.'  Miko joined us the following weekend.

Really sucks when they leave us doesn't it?  :'(
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Post by: Madferret on November 19, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
Brown Floyd
Stink Floyd

/maturity
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Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
Brown Floyd
Stink Floyd

/maturity

Run(s) Like Hell?
Mudman?
Drain Damage?

/maturity

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Post by: Tigger on November 19, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.

I know what you mean but I was pretty heartbroken at the time and didn't know if I could or would, still haven't. Funny thing happened, a 'friend' ( you'll see ) came over a couple months after and said he knew someone who had some kittens and were looking for homes, I said I wasn't really into it and he said that's ok she'll probably just drown them anyways... of course I was horrified by that but figured he was just messing with me. He showed up with this little beauty a week or so later and it set my world a little more right... she doesn't like dogs a whole lot so I've given in to both her wishes and my doubts, for now...

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/18878_310412876247_534741247_3334651_2925826_n.jpg)
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Post by: Tigger on November 19, 2011, 05:32:01 PM
wow, what a beautiful dog!

Yeah, he was a beauty, you can see the look in his eye in that photo too, full of trouble and too smart for his own good.

This is probably my favourite photo I have of him, it's a little more ominous...

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/22578_310343571247_534741247_3334393_4165565_n.jpg)
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Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2011, 05:57:31 PM
I'm not much of a cat person, Tigger but I appreciate where you're coming from.
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Post by: Tigger on November 19, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
It's weird Floyd, I like cats but I'm way more of a dog person. Getting to know her has been really rewarding, surprisingly.

I have a little chunk of land, 5 acres and mouses do their best to get in every year, she's been a godsend that way, she's a great mouser. Funny, I think I may have told this story OTOS but one moment I will never forget was the day she was sleeping while a mouse was drinking out of her water bowl, didn't have a camera for that one but I just about fell off my chair. Bravest mouse evah! ( or thirstiest...)
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Post by: Stebro on November 19, 2011, 06:11:47 PM
Well now my daddy taught me how to walk quiet and how to make my peace with the past
I learned real good to tighten up inside and I don't say nothing unless I'm asked
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2011, 06:16:01 PM
When my wife and I moved in together, we got a boy and a girl kitten (siblings.) At that time I loved cats. The boy just pissed everywhere, aggravated the dog, and killed the furniture. Eventually, I demanded he go and since we my wife didn't want to split them, they both went to Grandmas. I still kind of miss the girl and might (BIG MIGHT) consider another female one day but hell will freeze over before I get another male.   
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Post by: Tigger on November 19, 2011, 06:26:21 PM
I'm way more used to female cats as well though in my youth we had two male cats ( brothers ), one that slept with our german shepherd bizarrely enough ( though by day they were like Ralph and Sam... ) and they were most excellent felines. I hear what you're saying though, years later we took in a stray male that decided everything had to smell like him and that was terrible. I probably would have put up a fuss if my buddy had brought a male...

Grandmas are awesome! :)
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Post by: AlmosGirl on November 22, 2011, 10:53:46 AM
Very cute Tigger and sorry about your dog.  It's hard losing a pet.

We lost our Boxer Leesha several years ago to cancer.  We adopted her when she was 6 from Boxer Rescue and had her 3 wonderful too short years.  We got a new Boxer last November (after about 5 yrs) and Bella was beautiful and we loved her but my gosh, she was just so much work.  With 3 kids, rep hockey and everything else, we just didn't have the time to devote to her.  Now, we would have kept her and did the best that we could but hubby's brother who lives 5 mins from us, said that he would take her.  So, she has the best of both worlds.  She gets to go camping, hiking, long runs and we still get to see her every week and she's turned into such a beautiful, happy and sweet dog.

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Post by: Tigger on November 22, 2011, 03:28:49 PM
Losing him was real hard AG, at the time it was obvious but it's amazing how much they can become a part of your life, I still feel the loss today.

Great story about your brother in law taking the Boxer, life has a funny old way of working out sometimes. :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on November 22, 2011, 06:21:04 PM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.

I know what you mean but I was pretty heartbroken at the time and didn't know if I could or would, still haven't. Funny thing happened, a 'friend' ( you'll see ) came over a couple months after and said he knew someone who had some kittens and were looking for homes, I said I wasn't really into it and he said that's ok she'll probably just drown them anyways... of course I was horrified by that but figured he was just messing with me. He showed up with this little beauty a week or so later and it set my world a little more right... she doesn't like dogs a whole lot so I've given in to both her wishes and my doubts, for now...

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/18878_310412876247_534741247_3334651_2925826_n.jpg)

Nobody can say no to that picture!
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 22, 2011, 08:16:52 PM
I could! I don't like cats.
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Post by: AlmosGirl on November 23, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
I could! I don't like cats.

LOL LHF!  C'mon though, that is one cute pic!
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Post by: Sarge on November 24, 2011, 02:33:45 PM
Funny. My Mom just got a cat. What did she call it? - Mr.T
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Post by: TheMightyOdin on November 25, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
I lost my dog 18 months ago and haven't gotten over it... I said I'd never get another dog but that lasted only a couple of months. I don't think I could manage without one.

I know what you mean but I was pretty heartbroken at the time and didn't know if I could or would, still haven't. Funny thing happened, a 'friend' ( you'll see ) came over a couple months after and said he knew someone who had some kittens and were looking for homes, I said I wasn't really into it and he said that's ok she'll probably just drown them anyways... of course I was horrified by that but figured he was just messing with me. He showed up with this little beauty a week or so later and it set my world a little more right... she doesn't like dogs a whole lot so I've given in to both her wishes and my doubts, for now...

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/18878_310412876247_534741247_3334651_2925826_n.jpg)

Based on the picture I would have named this cat Yoda because it looks like its using the force.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 25, 2011, 01:14:10 PM
I could! I don't like cats.

LOL LHF!  C'mon though, that is one cute pic!

maybe, but I still don't like cats. They kill birds and squirrels. They don't keep me safe at night when hubby's at work like my 100 pound dog does.
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Post by: Tigger on November 25, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
@Odin... This is the kitty you were looking for... :)


(http://cdn.randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/types-of-labs.jpg)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 27, 2011, 03:43:49 PM
Went to Fargo, North Dakota on Thursday to experience my first Black Friday, and it was awesome, I had a lot of fun. We arrived in Fargo at 4pm, my cousin and Uncle got dropped off at Best Buy to wait in line (they were 50th in line) and it was a good idea they did that, because hours later the line exploded and by midnight at least 400 ppl were in line. The got a voucher for the laptop my cousin wanted around 10ish.

My aunt and Gma went to Target around 6pm and stood in line and me and my other cousin drove between the two locations bringing food, coffee, water, giving them breaks to warm up in the van, use the washroom.

Around 1130, we went back to Target and I got in line with my Aunt and my Gma went to the van, they allowed ppl into the store in groups of 30, wait 30 seconds then 30 more ppl, we were in the second group to go in and we had mapped out where the tvs were, we wanted, and I went right for them. Problem though, huge crowd that I couldnt get around, but then I saw a little path to the left of me around other tvs, snuck through there and right to the front of the crowd, snagged one TV, jumped up and saw my aunt and waved her over, grabbed another tv and pretty much laid on them to keep them safe til she got there.

barely a minute later a lady grabbed one and put it down by us and said she got the last one, there had to have been 50 tvs and they were gone in a matter of minutes, it was awesome, such a rush.

Got the 46" HDTV LCD Westinghouse for $298. I didn't really buy anything else except a Hurley zip up sweater and GTA IV for xbox and then 2 40's of Captain Morgans Spiced rum for $25 and 2 cartons of smokes at the border.

I am looking forward to going next year, doubt I'll do the wait in line thing though. My cousin got a $250 jacket from JC Penny for $60, what a deal, it is a really nice jacket too and I picked it out for her lol My other cousin got a Laptop for $178 I think it was, Lenovo brand, 2GB or ram, 250 GB hard drive, I am not really a fan of Lenovo, but he is only 10 and it should be fine for what he will do with it and also he saved up all year for this laptop doing chores and everything, he was pretty happy when he got it.

No incidents in the two stores we went too, everyone was friendly and talkative all night til the store opened, I was even doing coffee runs for ppl behind us in line lol and people in front of us ordered pizza and then started selling it by the slice, good idea, I may do that next year, they sold 7 pizzas in a matter of 30 minutes ($3 a slice or 2 slices for $5).
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Post by: Sucker Punch on November 27, 2011, 03:55:06 PM
Went to Fargo, North Dakota on Thursday to experience my first Black Friday, and it was awesome, I had a lot of fun. [...] wait in line [...] stood in line [...] got in line

I've got to say, your entire post kind of sounds like hell on earth to me.
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Post by: Bullfrog on November 27, 2011, 07:01:23 PM
Went to Fargo, North Dakota on Thursday to experience my first Black Friday, and it was awesome, I had a lot of fun. [...] wait in line [...] stood in line [...] got in line

I've got to say, your entire post kind of sounds like hell on earth to me.

Ditto. Sounds like he had fun though. The thought of standing in line for deals on electronics and other stuff (no matter how good of a deal) is just about near the bottom of my list of desirable things to do.......and I'm poor.
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Post by: L K on November 27, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
Went to Fargo, North Dakota on Thursday to experience my first Black Friday, and it was awesome, I had a lot of fun. [...] wait in line [...] stood in line [...] got in line

I've got to say, your entire post kind of sounds like hell on earth to me.

Ditto. Sounds like he had fun though. The thought of standing in line for deals on electronics and other stuff (no matter how good of a deal) is just about near the bottom of my list of desirable things to do.......and I'm poor.

That's why they created Cyber-Monday's....less trampling, but more maxing credit cards when you don't have the money and then complaining about how the economy is keeping you from paying your mortgage.
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Post by: Bullfrog on November 28, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
That's the first time I've heard the term Cyber Monday. and funny enough, right below your post was an advertisement for Cyber Monday at amazon.ca.
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Post by: Zee on November 28, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
That's the first time I've heard the term Cyber Monday. and funny enough, right below your post was an advertisement for Cyber Monday at amazon.ca.

It's a nice buzz word, but I actually got a deal.  I've been eyeballing some earbuds for over a year now but never bought them because I didn't want to pay over $100, well behold FutureShop put the very earbuds I wanted on sale for 50% off today.  Thank you Cyber Monday.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on November 28, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
That's the first time I've heard the term Cyber Monday. and funny enough, right below your post was an advertisement for Cyber Monday at amazon.ca.

That's not funny, it's google watching everything you do.
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Post by: Bullfrog on November 28, 2011, 05:17:02 PM
Well that explains why most of the ads are for mail order brides and porn sites.


<crickets>
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on December 04, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
Saw/felt my first plastic 100 dollar bill  yesterday... Weird.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 04, 2011, 02:39:31 PM
Saw/felt my first plastic 100 dollar bill  yesterday... Weird.

they're purty but they're a pain in the rump too. The self scan units at work won't recognize them as real money and our cash office currency counter isn't calibrated for them either, which means I have to count all that money by hand. *sigh*
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Post by: Tigger on December 04, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
Saw/felt my first plastic 100 dollar bill  yesterday... Weird.
Yeah, I've seen them too, they're a little odd.

I wonder if they go through a dryer ok?

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Post by: Sarge on December 04, 2011, 03:18:05 PM
They have a familiar texture to them and it's bugging me that I can't figure out what they feel like yet.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 04, 2011, 03:25:39 PM
They have a familiar texture to them and it's bugging me that I can't figure out what they feel like yet.

condoms?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on December 04, 2011, 03:28:21 PM
They have a familiar texture to them and it's bugging me that I can't figure out what they feel like yet.

condoms?

OMG! Maybe... It's been a while!  :)
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Post by: Madferret on December 12, 2011, 08:56:36 AM
Architects apologize for 9/11 blast look-alike design (http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/12/12/architects-apologize-for-911-blast-look-alike-design)

SEOUL - A Dutch architectural firm has apologized for its design of twin skyscrapers in central Seoul which resemble the exploding World Trade Center towers in New York and have infuriated families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks.

The blueprint for the luxury apartment buildings was released last week and shows a structure which juts out at the middle to accommodate pools, restaurants, cafes and a gym.

Relatives of victims of al-Qaida’s Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States have expressed outrage, according to U.S. media reports, saying the designers have no respect for those that died and branding the design a cheap publicity stunt.

Designer MVRDV said it had not intended to create an image resembling the attacks, and it did not see the resemblance during the design process.

“We sincerely apologize to anyone whose feelings we have hurt. It was not our intention,” the company said on its website.

It did not indicate whether it would change the design.

“A real media storm has started and we receive threatening e-mails and calls of angry people calling us al-Qaida lovers or worse,” it said on its Facebook page.

The district developer is expected to decide on the final design plans by March.


(http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1322802123075_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=420x)
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Post by: Hockey_gal on December 17, 2011, 12:52:49 AM
Not useless info but my neighbour passed away. Not even 60 shocking news for my family :(
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Post by: Sucker Punch on December 19, 2011, 03:35:01 AM
Hot damn, you think anyone in hockey could pull off something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGCsEQ15L4) (New Zealand vs. Tonga in rugby, both teams doing their tribal war dance at each other before the start of the match).

That looks badass as hell, but I don't think it would translate very well...

EDIT: When I played rugby in high school, we used to do laps to death metal while yelling at the opposition before a match.   At 15, I thought it was pretty cool.   I'm just happy I don't have any video of it, because I don't think it looked as awesome as I thought it did.
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Post by: Sarge on December 19, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
I just took down a baconator... and I hate myself for it.
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Post by: Stebro on December 19, 2011, 03:06:03 PM
I've started to play Eastside hockey manager 2007 again, right now I have a 2-0 lead in the playoffs over the devils, and am currently playing the 3rd game. And right now the 4th OT will start, I don't think it's ever taken such a long time to decide a game when I've been playing Eastside. Right now Hedberg is the goalie for the devils, he has saved 68/69 shots, and I've got Bäckström in the net, and he has saved 53/54 shots.

F*** the devils scored with less than a minute left of the 4th OT period. Totalt shots 76-72 to the leafs, and 2-1 to the devils.

Link (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Stebro/devils.jpg)

Ffs 16 pp's and no goals.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on December 19, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
I just took down a baconator... and I hate myself for it.

Think of all the tofu you saved.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 19, 2011, 03:43:03 PM
::::::shudder of horror:::::

tofu. yeeeeuch. it's gagworthy
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Post by: Bender on December 19, 2011, 05:05:49 PM
::::::shudder of horror:::::

tofu. yeeeeuch. it's gagworthy

It's delicious in Phad Thai and Paneer! :)
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Post by: Deebo on December 19, 2011, 09:59:26 PM
::::::shudder of horror:::::

tofu. yeeeeuch. it's gagworthy

It's delicious in Phad Thai and Paneer! :)

Paneer isn't tofu.
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Post by: Bender on December 19, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
::::::shudder of horror:::::

tofu. yeeeeuch. it's gagworthy

It's delicious in Phad Thai and Paneer! :)

Paneer isn't tofu.

Oh yeah, Cottage Cheese. Well, it's good in Phad Thai :)
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Post by: bustaheims on December 19, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
Oh yeah, Cottage Cheese. Well, it's good in Phad Thai :)

And miso soup.
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Post by: Stebro on December 20, 2011, 09:36:55 AM
Just got off the phone, said yes to starting giving money to Amnesty on a regular basis again. Not sure if that was such a smart idea considering that I don't even have a job now, but hey, what the heck :)
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 20, 2011, 09:46:53 AM
Just cancel the debit from your bank or credit card.  ;)

Give when you can without it being a detriment to your personal situation.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on December 21, 2011, 10:19:57 AM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D
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Post by: Zee on December 21, 2011, 10:25:28 AM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
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Post by: Stebro on December 21, 2011, 11:48:06 AM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.
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Post by: Madferret on December 21, 2011, 12:07:57 PM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.

Couldn't you just have taken the job until something you are qualified for presented itself?
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Post by: Stebro on December 21, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.

Couldn't you just have taken the job until something you are qualified for presented itself?
This is actually what I've been told by others the last 3 times it has happend.  :D But I quit two of those 3, because I was so bored that I actually got sick from the whole thing, and they're always asking me 2 things:
1. Why did you stay such a short time?
2. Why did you take the job if you have the education?

And that always becomes a problem for me. Another thing is also, that for everytime I take one of those jobs it means that I can't work with what I was educated for, and it has happend several times, and I am forgetting a lot of the things from the education, since I can't work with it. And at the moment it feels as if, I can't keep on doing something that I know wont be for long term, I've done it so many times in a row now.
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Post by: Madferret on December 21, 2011, 03:07:08 PM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.

Couldn't you just have taken the job until something you are qualified for presented itself?
This is actually what I've been told by others the last 3 times it has happend.  :D But I quit two of those 3, because I was so bored that I actually got sick from the whole thing, and they're always asking me 2 things:
1. Why did you stay such a short time?
2. Why did you take the job if you have the education?

And that always becomes a problem for me. Another thing is also, that for everytime I take one of those jobs it means that I can't work with what I was educated for, and it has happend several times, and I am forgetting a lot of the things from the education, since I can't work with it. And at the moment it feels as if, I can't keep on doing something that I know wont be for long term, I've done it so many times in a row now.

Is it safe to assume that Sweden's social assistance programs are wealthier / better than Canada's? Actually...isn't Sweden a socialist country?
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Post by: Stebro on December 21, 2011, 03:32:44 PM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.

Couldn't you just have taken the job until something you are qualified for presented itself?
This is actually what I've been told by others the last 3 times it has happend.  :D But I quit two of those 3, because I was so bored that I actually got sick from the whole thing, and they're always asking me 2 things:
1. Why did you stay such a short time?
2. Why did you take the job if you have the education?

And that always becomes a problem for me. Another thing is also, that for everytime I take one of those jobs it means that I can't work with what I was educated for, and it has happend several times, and I am forgetting a lot of the things from the education, since I can't work with it. And at the moment it feels as if, I can't keep on doing something that I know wont be for long term, I've done it so many times in a row now.

Is it safe to assume that Sweden's social assistance programs are wealthier / better than Canada's? Actually...isn't Sweden a socialist country?
Depends on what you mean really, it's better in Denmark for example, if you mean unemployment benefits. But technically the max limit that you can get unemployment benefits is at roughly 3450 us dollars per month, but then you get 80% of that before taxes at max. So basically you could end up at around 1700 us dollars per month at max, unless you have like income insurances and stuff like that.

Sweden is considered as a socialist country by a lot, probably due to the fact that the Social democrats have ruled the country for a very long time. However the right are in their 2nd period now, and the Social democrats have big internal issues right now, so they've dropped a lot.
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Post by: Madferret on December 21, 2011, 03:41:32 PM
I did something today that I haven't done before. I said no to an interview for a job. I would have received a pay raise and a steady job, still I said no :D

That has to be a good feeling knowing you don't need it.
Well actually im unemployed, so I do need a job. It's just that I felt that I had to say no, since I'm overqualified, and I've taken lots of jobs before that I've been overqualified for, but it's become a problem for me. I can't use my education, and they're always asking me on interviews why I've worked in so many roles that I'm overqualified for. It was tough, but felt like the right thing to do.

Couldn't you just have taken the job until something you are qualified for presented itself?
This is actually what I've been told by others the last 3 times it has happend.  :D But I quit two of those 3, because I was so bored that I actually got sick from the whole thing, and they're always asking me 2 things:
1. Why did you stay such a short time?
2. Why did you take the job if you have the education?

And that always becomes a problem for me. Another thing is also, that for everytime I take one of those jobs it means that I can't work with what I was educated for, and it has happend several times, and I am forgetting a lot of the things from the education, since I can't work with it. And at the moment it feels as if, I can't keep on doing something that I know wont be for long term, I've done it so many times in a row now.

Is it safe to assume that Sweden's social assistance programs are wealthier / better than Canada's? Actually...isn't Sweden a socialist country?
Depends on what you mean really, it's better in Denmark for example, if you mean unemployment benefits. But technically the max limit that you can get unemployment benefits is at roughly 3450 us dollars per month, but then you get 80% of that before taxes at max. So basically you could end up at around 1700 us dollars per month at max, unless you have like income insurances and stuff like that.

Sweden is considered as a socialist country by a lot, probably due to the fact that the Social democrats have ruled the country for a very long time. However the right are in their 2nd period now, and the Social democrats have big internal issues right now, so they've dropped a lot.

Oh ok.
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Post by: Stebro on December 22, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
managed to get Sean Avery to get 996 penalty minutes in one season when playing Eastside hockey manager lol
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 23, 2011, 08:39:40 AM
5 more days :-D
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Post by: Bullfrog on December 23, 2011, 09:42:48 AM
Until what? This isn't facebook, man.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 23, 2011, 10:18:52 AM
I think it's until he's back in Winnipeg and/or out of Gillam.

Be nice to those local polar bears though, huh?
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Post by: Derk on December 23, 2011, 10:32:41 AM
Already trying to balance my family / friends schedule for the holidays. Need to choose between friend co-workers and a friend client today. Then I need to pick up my mother-in-law. And the wheel goes round. :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 31, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
Just got a haircut and since my hair isn't styled yet, I'm wearing my Leafs hat, too much trash talk already. Got my Leafs Reimer jersey on now! Can't wait until game time and to be at the MTS Centre repping the blue and white!

Go Leafs Go !
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Post by: Stebro on January 09, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
Ovechkin just scored a hattrick for me, it took 1 minute and 5 seconds of the first period. I've never had anyone score a hattrick that fast when playing Eastside. :)
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Post by: Michael on January 12, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
I am currently in Jamaica on my last day at a very nice resort. An hour or so ago I was at the swim up bar and the "over-the-top" friendly bartender says to me "Where you from mon?". I replied, "Canada". So he says, "oh Canada. Go Leafs Go. Right?"

It made me laugh. Good to know that he knows who to cheer for.
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Post by: Stronger Than All on January 12, 2012, 03:18:36 PM
I am currently in Jamaica on my last day at a very nice resort. An hour or so ago I was at the swim up bar and the "over-the-top" friendly bartender says to me "Where you from mon?". I replied, "Canada". So he says, "oh Canada. Go Leafs Go. Right?"

It made me laugh. Good to know that he knows who to cheer for.

Easily the best place I have ever vacationed!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on January 13, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Huh. Never been to Jamaica. Been to Barbados a number of times. The only problem there is that Bert's Bar is "the home of the Ottawa Senators in Barbados". Got to watch the Leafs beat the Habs on tv there on the opening night last season. :)
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Post by: Sarge on January 13, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
Huh. Never been to Jamaica. Been to Barbados a number of times. The only problem there is that Bert's Bar is "the home of the Ottawa Senators in Barbados". Got to watch the Leafs beat the Habs on tv there on the opening night last season. :)

... I could be goin' to Bert's in March.  8)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Rick Couchman on January 16, 2012, 01:13:45 PM
I remembered to renew the TMLfans.ca/.net/.com just moments ago.  They were set to expire tomorrow so for $40, anyone could have claimed them from us - oops!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 16, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
I remembered to renew the TMLfans.ca/.net/.com just moments ago.  They were set to expire tomorrow so for $40, anyone could have claimed them from us - oops!

Dang, I used to have my url's set to auto-renew, but then turned it off since i had no time for my sim league anymore and lost the urls lol
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on January 16, 2012, 02:34:28 PM
I remembered to renew the TMLfans.ca/.net/.com just moments ago.  They were set to expire tomorrow so for $40, anyone could have claimed them from us - oops!
I'm sure that TMLfans.ru isn't taken :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on January 16, 2012, 02:43:38 PM
I've been fed up with the company providing my phone service lately. I have it through this "thing" (not sure what you usually call them in english) in the wall, for both the phone and broadband. But the phone service has been crap lately, so after a few months of just being annoyed and calling them, I thought that I'd cut the crap, but we negotiated a deal which means that I only pay if I use the phone, nothing else to pay for.

But still I miss the old times when the phone services ALWAYS worked. I mean from the age of 0-18 I remember that our phone was down like once, when a thunder bolt hit something.
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Post by: Zee on January 16, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
I remembered to renew the TMLfans.ca/.net/.com just moments ago.  They were set to expire tomorrow so for $40, anyone could have claimed them from us - oops!

Dammit there goes my takeover plan :(
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Post by: Stebro on January 17, 2012, 12:11:55 PM
It's weird everytime i'm in a bad period, there's always one thing that saves me if I listen hard enough, and that is the music of Springsteen. It doesn't matter what I'm going through, I can always find something and feel like "Oh, that's exactly what this is like". I can't find that in other people's music. Thank you Bruce ;)
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Post by: Zee on January 18, 2012, 09:05:44 AM
I just discovered the "Ignore" button to ignore users.  It is glorious, although I wish it would also ignore their posts when people quote them.  Guess you can't have it all.
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Post by: Ronco on January 22, 2012, 10:54:17 PM
Turnip's mixed with potato's...mashed anyone tried it?

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Post by: Damian on January 23, 2012, 07:59:29 AM
Turnip's mixed with potato's...mashed anyone tried it?

Its awesome
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Post by: Bates on January 23, 2012, 10:00:41 AM
The Newfie Sunday dinner better known as Jigg's Dinner is often followed on Monday by a combined leftover meal called Hash.  It puts the potatoes, turnip, cabbage and such in a frying pan and mashing them together.  It is literally a to-die-for meal.
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Post by: Madferret on January 23, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Can't say I've tried Newfie Hash myself - is it anything like Afghan Hash?
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Post by: Bates on January 23, 2012, 10:19:01 AM
Newfie hash comes in 2 types.  The kind you and Grandma have on monday after Jigg's dinner and the kind you and Grandpa have on Saturday night to get ready for Jigg's dinner!!!  I believe Saturday's is very similar to the kind you are looking for??
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on January 23, 2012, 10:48:21 AM
Newfie hash comes in 2 types.  The kind you and Grandma have on monday after Jigg's dinner and the kind you and Grandpa have on Saturday night to get ready for Jigg's dinner!!!  I believe Saturday's is very similar to the kind you are looking for??

Do you remember the 'Jamaican Thread' at the old boards?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bates on January 23, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Don't remember that one.
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Post by: Zee on January 23, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 23, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\

Same size as the Starbucks Venti, Starbucks is coming out with a new size in May in the US, a Trenta, 31 oz's :|
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Zee on January 23, 2012, 11:41:31 AM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\

Same size as the Starbucks Venti, Starbucks is coming out with a new size in May in the US, a Trenta, 31 oz's :|

Isn't the Starbucks venti only 20oz?  Hence the "venti"?
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Post by: The Red Polar Bear on January 23, 2012, 12:59:06 PM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\

Same size as the Starbucks Venti, Starbucks is coming out with a new size in May in the US, a Trenta, 31 oz's :|

Isn't the Starbucks venti only 20oz?  Hence the "venti"?

1) You're compensating for your lack of sleep :P

2) Starbucks is weird. Their hot drink cup is 20oz, while their cold drink cup is 24oz. I go there often 'cause I have friends who work there who get me free stuff :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Zee on January 23, 2012, 01:05:43 PM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\

Same size as the Starbucks Venti, Starbucks is coming out with a new size in May in the US, a Trenta, 31 oz's :|

Isn't the Starbucks venti only 20oz?  Hence the "venti"?

1) You're compensating for your lack of sleep :P

2) Starbucks is weird. Their hot drink cup is 20oz, while their cold drink cup is 24oz. I go there often 'cause I have friends who work there who get me free stuff :P

Wow, I just learned a useless thing about Starbucks hot vs cold drink.  This thread delivers!  :D ;)
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Post by: seahawk on January 23, 2012, 07:24:04 PM
I just picked up the new Tim Horton's x-large 24oz coffee cup.  This thing is massive, I feel like I'm overcompensating for something.  :-\

Same size as the Starbucks Venti, Starbucks is coming out with a new size in May in the US, a Trenta, 31 oz's :|

Isn't the Starbucks venti only 20oz?  Hence the "venti"?

1) You're compensating for your lack of sleep :P

2) Starbucks is weird. Their hot drink cup is 20oz, while their cold drink cup is 24oz. I go there often 'cause I have friends who work there who get me free stuff :P

Wow, I just learned a useless thing about Starbucks hot vs cold drink.  This thread delivers!  :D ;)

24 ounces of an iced passion tea lemonade, yum :) Starbucks already has the Trenta size in the US for cold beverages. No word on when it will land north of the border. I went to Tim's today and almost ordered the new XL. Thankfully, I remembered the changes before I got to the counter.
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Post by: Heroic Shrimp on January 24, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Every Presentation Ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIABo0d9MVE

Pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on January 24, 2012, 01:43:01 PM
My sister-in-law is in town and staying with us for a week.

Time to say goodbye to naked wigwal weeknights. :(
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Post by: Damian on January 24, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
My sister-in-law is in town and staying with us for a week.

Time to say goodbye to naked wigwal weeknights. :(
Shouldnt your neighbours be sending your SiL a thank you card for that ?  :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on January 24, 2012, 03:18:11 PM
How very dare you!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on January 24, 2012, 03:44:13 PM
My sister-in-law is in town and staying with us for a week.

Time to say goodbye to naked wigwal weeknights. :(

Is she hot?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on January 24, 2012, 03:54:42 PM
My sister-in-law is in town and staying with us for a week.

Time to say goodbye to naked wigwal weeknights. :(

Is she hot?

LOL
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on January 24, 2012, 06:30:25 PM
Looks like a younger version of my wife, so yeah I think so!
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 25, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
Happy birthday Leafaholic!

(http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/ressalovesnsn/402499.gif)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on January 25, 2012, 12:34:51 PM
Hey, yeah... I should check there more often and extend some wishes... Happy B-day, dude. 
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 26, 2012, 10:29:30 AM
Thanks LHF and Sarge :-D


I'm flying to Winnipeg at noon today and will be there for 12 weeks, starting my level 2 apprenticeship at Red River College Monday!

The last 6 months have been awesome, I have been in Gillam for a total of 2 months maybe and now leaving for almost 3 again. This is all due to training I have in Winnipeg for my job.

I am hoping to get rotated to a station down south this July when they do the annual rotations! I have started to even get serious about house hunting too!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 11:57:36 AM

I've got a ski trip this weekend and was looking for some recommendations alcohol wise. I've already got the vino covered and I've already chosen my whiskeys(Maker's Mark/CCR) but I'm thinking about another top shelf spirit. Anyone have a particular favourite? I'm leaning towards Tanqueray 50 or something like that.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 26, 2012, 12:00:26 PM

I've got a ski trip this weekend and was looking for some recommendations alcohol wise. I've already got the vino covered and I've already chosen my whiskeys(Maker's Mark/CCR) but I'm thinking about another top shelf spirit. Anyone have a particular favourite? I'm leaning towards Tanqueray 50 or something like that.

I'm a fan of Kahlua, Bailey's and/or Amaretto. Depends on what else is happening!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on January 26, 2012, 12:01:08 PM

I've got a ski trip this weekend and was looking for some recommendations alcohol wise. I've already got the vino covered and I've already chosen my whiskeys(Maker's Mark/CCR) but I'm thinking about another top shelf spirit. Anyone have a particular favourite? I'm leaning towards Tanqueray 50 or something like that.

(http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/3089.jpg)

It's a Polish vodka... Shoot it right out of the freezer.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 12:02:20 PM
I'm a fan of Kahlua, Bailey's and/or Amaretto. Depends on what else is happening!

Oh, good point. Any liqueur suggestions would be helpful too.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 12:03:13 PM
It's a Polish vodka... Shoot it right out of the freezer.

Commonly available?
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Post by: Sarge on January 26, 2012, 12:04:07 PM
It's a Polish vodka... Shoot it right out of the freezer.

Commonly available?

Yup.
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Post by: Sarge on January 26, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
It's really got a unique flavour... I hated it at first. You might feel the same way too but it's not expensive so there's not much you have to lose here. - Just shoot it ice cold.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
It's really got a unique flavour... I hated it at first. You might feel the same way too but it's not expensive so there's not much you have to lose here. - Just shoot it ice cold.

Hah, well, I'm not sure if shots are on the menu and I'm pretty loyal to Stoli when I do go with Vodka.

I'm not really asking for me, because I'm pretty set with my bourbon/rye, but more of a top shelf thing to impress the other folks.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 26, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Very old Wisers, Cracken Spiced Rum and White Owl Whiskey, not sure if that's the kind you are looking for, but they are pretty tasty. The very old wisers has sky rocketed in price lately though, in MB its 60$ a bottle and it used to only be 30 a few years ago :s
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Post by: Sarge on January 26, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
It's really got a unique flavour... I hated it at first. You might feel the same way too but it's not expensive so there's not much you have to lose here. - Just shoot it ice cold.

Hah, well, I'm not sure if shots are on the menu and I'm pretty loyal to Stoli when I do go with Vodka.

I'm not really asking for me, because I'm pretty set with my bourbon/rye, but more of a top shelf thing to impress the other folks.

It's the king of thing that keeps our spirits warm while outside in the winter. It's a great traveler. 
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Post by: Zid on January 26, 2012, 12:58:41 PM
It's really got a unique flavour... I hated it at first. You might feel the same way too but it's not expensive so there's not much you have to lose here. - Just shoot it ice cold.

Hah, well, I'm not sure if shots are on the menu and I'm pretty loyal to Stoli when I do go with Vodka.

I'm not really asking for me, because I'm pretty set with my bourbon/rye, but more of a top shelf thing to impress the other folks.

It's the king of thing that keeps our spirits warm while outside in the winter. It's a great traveler.

Zubrowka is excellent. Nice spice overtones, mixes well with ginger ale.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on January 26, 2012, 01:40:34 PM

I've got a ski trip this weekend and was looking for some recommendations alcohol wise. I've already got the vino covered and I've already chosen my whiskeys(Maker's Mark/CCR) but I'm thinking about another top shelf spirit. Anyone have a particular favourite? I'm leaning towards Tanqueray 50 or something like that.

You a gin drinker? The crack of alcohol...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
You a gin drinker? The crack of alcohol...

I've been known to have the occasional G and T in the evening or a Greyhound with breakfast. That's why Tanq 50 was my thought. It'd been recommended to me, along with Hendricks, as one of the better gins available.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on January 26, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
You a gin drinker? The crack of alcohol...

I've been known to have the occasional G and T in the evening or a Greyhound with breakfast. That's why Tanq 50 was my thought. It'd been recommended to me, along with Hendricks, as one of the better gins available.

Love me some g & t's...bluecollar Beefeater. Hendricks is good - never heard of Tanq 50.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 26, 2012, 02:34:01 PM
but more of a top shelf thing to impress the other folks.

in that case, Sambuca!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 02:34:53 PM
Love me some g & t's...bluecollar Beefeater. Hendricks is good - never heard of Tanq 50.

Sorry, it's Tanqueray 10, not 50. It's their top shelf gin.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on January 26, 2012, 02:37:55 PM
Love me some g & t's...bluecollar Beefeater. Hendricks is good - never heard of Tanq 50.

Sorry, it's Tanqueray 10, not 50. It's their top shelf gin.

Oh - you going to go for it?
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Post by: Nik the Trik on January 26, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Oh - you going to go for it?

Not sure. I'll probably hit up one of the bigger LCBO's today or tomorrow and follow my nose.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on January 26, 2012, 02:54:38 PM
Oh - you going to go for it?

Not sure. I'll probably hit up one of the bigger LCBO's today or tomorrow and follow my nose.

Where are you going skiing? Blue Mountain?
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on January 28, 2012, 11:09:48 AM
If you guys wanna try something new, try Spicebox whiskey ... Mixed with coke, it tastes just like vanilla coke
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Post by: Spare Change on January 28, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
Hey Guys,

I'm currently working part time at the Brick in mississauga (dundas/ridgeway) beside Costco. 

Thursday February 2nd 2012 we're having a family/friends discount day.
So there's discounts on all furniture, applainces, electronics and mattresses.
If anyone is looking to buy anything, or wants a discount pm me and I can send you some info about it.  Thanks!
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Post by: Stebro on January 31, 2012, 12:56:49 PM
Frank to Raymond: "Hot is now cold" :D
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Post by: Kessel Run on February 02, 2012, 10:23:34 PM
February.
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Post by: Sarge on February 06, 2012, 07:04:29 AM
It hurts to blink today... Stupid Super Bowl party.
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Post by: 13 on February 08, 2012, 01:19:27 PM
 Watching the Republican primaries reminds me just how happy I am to be a Canadian. Rick Santorum.... Seriously? It almost makes me respect our knuckleheads, uh, politicians.... almost.
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Post by: Potvin29 on February 08, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
Watching the Republican primaries reminds me just how happy I am to be a Canadian. Rick Santorum.... Seriously? It almost makes me respect our knuckleheads, uh, politicians.... almost.

Although him and Harper could have a "Sweater-Vest Off" for the title.
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Post by: Stebro on February 09, 2012, 04:40:22 AM
lol Scott Young is pulling out of retirement to play for a crappy swedish team
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Post by: Sarge on February 09, 2012, 11:48:10 AM
My wife's dear friend at work woke up this morning and her husband didn't... 53 years old, good health, massive heart attack. So shocking and sad... No sense trying to figure it out.
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Post by: Stebro on February 10, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
I'm gonna spill my guts out kind of, but it's okay, none of you live here anyways :) There's this girl who I used to get great eye-contact with, and I suspect that she was interested too, but im not 100% sure. And I've made lots of mistakes. We hadn't seen eachother for like 2 years or so, and I met her in the subway, and she looked at me and smiled, and I completely freaked out and looked the other way. She looked really disappointed and ran off quickly when we were supposed to get off.

I regret that, but yeah I kind of panicked. It became too intense. And then I made another big mistake, you see back then I didn't know anything other than where she worked. So I sent some choco close to valentine's day, but wouldn't give my name. I was kind of cryptic and gave a fake e-mail that I used, and said that we met on the subway (She doesn't live in Stockholm, so they don't have any subway where she lives, and this was in Stockholm). So I didn't receive any answer. I regret sending it to work though, but I didn't have any other info to go on.

So time for the next screwup, I managed to find her on facebook, and sent her a message. I didn't receive an answer, and a few months later I realized that you couldn't send me pm's if you're not on my friend list. And I don't know if she had blocked that or not either. So the question now is should I try texting her? Or will that make me come off as a complete stalker :D
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Post by: Damian on February 10, 2012, 12:23:53 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
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Post by: Stebro on February 10, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on February 10, 2012, 01:37:47 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Did you text her a picture of your junk?
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Post by: Stebro on February 10, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Did you text her a picture of your junk?
No, I sent her a picture of Alfie.
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Post by: Deebo on February 10, 2012, 01:40:04 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Turn it back on.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 10, 2012, 01:45:56 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Turn it back on.
Just did, nothing so far, the worst thing that could happen is no answer at all. I'd even prefer "I hate you" over no answer :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 10, 2012, 02:06:25 PM
Hey, her loss if she doesn't get back to you.  You're a good guy Stefan and well done for putting yourself out there.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 10, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Hey, her loss if she doesn't get back to you.  You're a good guy Stefan and well done for putting yourself out there.
Thanks man, you know how I determined whether to do it or not? Being a hockey nerd I did it the logical way. I was playing Eastside, and decided that if I'd win the first game vs Ottawa I'd text her. I had a 5-3 lead with a few mins, and then Ottawa tied it up with less than a minute to go. And I was like "Yay, they've got the momentum, I'm off the hook!". Then they got a pp in the overtime, and then the leafs scored a shorthanded, and I was like ???
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 10, 2012, 02:17:05 PM
That's awesome! :)

The Leafs beating the Sens! :D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on February 10, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Turn it back on.
Just did, nothing so far, the worst thing that could happen is no answer at all. I'd even prefer "I hate you" over no answer :)

Hey man, my advice is not to worry about it either way. Next time you have to go into it like what you're doing is something you do all the time, that you've always done and is completely natural for you. Otherwise she'll sense you're uncomfortable and it will make her uncomfortable. You just have to push out those negative thoughts and feelings and change them with positive ones!

And I'm not saying it's a magic bullet or anything, but the next time a girl gives you eye contact you'll be way better equipped to take it further. And to be honest, sometimes it's a great feeling to find out: "This chick ain't what she's cracked up to be. I can't believe I was even nervous about her."
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 11, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
I'd contact her.... the door is either open, or closed.... you need to find out .... hope it works out for you
I sent her a txt-message and then turned off the phone lol oh lordie

Turn it back on.
Just did, nothing so far, the worst thing that could happen is no answer at all. I'd even prefer "I hate you" over no answer :)

Hey man, my advice is not to worry about it either way. Next time you have to go into it like what you're doing is something you do all the time, that you've always done and is completely natural for you. Otherwise she'll sense you're uncomfortable and it will make her uncomfortable. You just have to push out those negative thoughts and feelings and change them with positive ones!

And I'm not saying it's a magic bullet or anything, but the next time a girl gives you eye contact you'll be way better equipped to take it further. And to be honest, sometimes it's a great feeling to find out: "This chick ain't what she's cracked up to be. I can't believe I was even nervous about her."
Haven't heard anything from her, so I guess that's my answer. I just think it's weird. I mean why can't a person just answer? Well, guess it's time to move on, even if it's weird without an answer.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on February 11, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Onward.....
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Ronco on February 12, 2012, 12:09:47 AM
I killed my Facebook account. Stupid app.
Got tired of trying to change my email address on the stupid thing.
Wouldn't accept my alternate so i killed it.

Technology run amok.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on February 12, 2012, 12:17:19 AM
I killed my Facebook account. Stupid app.
Got tired of trying to change my email address on the stupid thing.
Wouldn't accept my alternate so i killed it.

Technology run amok.

Straight to the man!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 14, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
lately I've actually been thinking a lot more about starting my own company...but im not sure if I wanna do it alone...I'm gonna go to a free course that the Tax Authorities are hosting to learn more...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Damian on February 14, 2012, 03:21:01 PM
Do it .... many of us have. Was it all success? No. But you have to start somewhere and learn. Even if it means your company is just you, and your expertise....
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 15, 2012, 05:34:31 AM
My new doctor is a competent genius and she actually listens a lot. Felt a bit sorry for her though. She had a great education from China, came to Sweden to work, and had to do the dishes at some restaurant for several years. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that kind of work, I just wish that we were better at giving people from other countries a fair chance.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on February 15, 2012, 05:36:11 AM
Do it .... many of us have. Was it all success? No. But you have to start somewhere and learn. Even if it means your company is just you, and your expertise....
I'm just worried about the start, about actually getting customers. And what if I'd market "my" company in a certain way, and then when the customers wants help, I can't solve it. What if I lack the competence? I think I have a pretty good idea though in relation to my background.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on February 23, 2012, 10:15:03 AM
Not a Torontonian so in theory I don't care, but it's fascinating all the same: Is Ford for real with this Subway business? 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on February 23, 2012, 12:35:55 PM
Not a Torontonian so in theory I don't care, but it's fascinating all the same: Is Ford for real with this Subway business?

It really is unreal, but I think it just stands out a bit more because Full blown US style politics hasn't ramped up here to the same extent.
The notion that he was elected to build subways when 99% of his platform was 'Gravy train' is hilarious.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on February 23, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
Just bored at work... had a cranky client call.

I just thought of this and burst out laughing.


"Surly only cares about number 1: Surly!
"Oh. Sorry Surly."
"Shut up!"
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on February 23, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Not a Torontonian so in theory I don't care, but it's fascinating all the same: Is Ford for real with this Subway business?

It really is unreal, but I think it just stands out a bit more because Full blown US style politics hasn't ramped up here to the same extent.
The notion that he was elected to build subways when 99% of his platform was 'Gravy train' is hilarious.

This is the problem with putting 4-year politicians in charge of 20-year projects.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on February 23, 2012, 03:32:27 PM
Not a Torontonian so in theory I don't care, but it's fascinating all the same: Is Ford for real with this Subway business?

It really is unreal, but I think it just stands out a bit more because Full blown US style politics hasn't ramped up here to the same extent.
The notion that he was elected to build subways when 99% of his platform was 'Gravy train' is hilarious.

This is the problem with putting 4-year politicians in charge of 20-year projects.

They have no vested interest. Once they're out, they're no longer held accountable for project completion. Moreover, the new politicians coming in will always scrap the foundation built before. It's absolutely ridiculous. We should reward consensus building, not tearing each other into the ground because they wear a different colored tie.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: sucka on February 23, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
Not a Torontonian so in theory I don't care, but it's fascinating all the same: Is Ford for real with this Subway business?

It really is unreal, but I think it just stands out a bit more because Full blown US style politics hasn't ramped up here to the same extent.
The notion that he was elected to build subways when 99% of his platform was 'Gravy train' is hilarious.

This is the problem with putting 4-year politicians in charge of 20-year projects.

They have no vested interest. Once they're out, they're no longer held accountable for project completion. Moreover, the new politicians coming in will always scrap the foundation built before. It's absolutely ridiculous. We should reward consensus building, not tearing each other into the ground because they wear a different colored tie.

I've always believed that what is needed is a benevolent dictator for things to get moving in the right path.  Unfortunately 99% of the dictator talent pool isn't benevolent.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 23, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
Are we more scared of Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum running the US?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: 13 on February 23, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
Are we more scared of Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum running the US?


 Won't happen. The left, the moderate righties and the sane will not vote for the Republicans. Only the stereotypical God fearin', gun carryin', gay fearing, flag wavin', "USA, USA, USA" chanting Americans will vote for these nutjobs. Then again..........
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on February 23, 2012, 07:30:09 PM
Are we more scared of Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum running the US?

He's a joke candidate who only appeals to the fringe aside from short-term appeal in polls.  He's too far gone off the deep end of the right with a base that relies heavily on the Evangelical movement to pose an actual threat in the general election.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Ronco on February 23, 2012, 11:18:46 PM
TSN is ready i tell ya. Their ready for the trade deadline.
They are soooo ready.

I mean they really are ready.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on February 23, 2012, 11:24:32 PM
TSN is ready i tell ya. Their ready for the trade deadline.
They are soooo ready.

I mean they really are ready.

I dunno, Ronco. Do you think they're ready?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 23, 2012, 11:33:14 PM
Was wondering if anyone knew....















Are TSN ready for the trade deadline?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on February 24, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Not sure if they're ready, but they sure are prepared.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 24, 2012, 09:47:11 AM

Has anyone else heard anything about the new Nexus S featuring Tapatalk?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on February 24, 2012, 09:49:40 AM

Has anyone else heard anything about the new Nexus S featuring Tapatalk?

NO! Please do tell!  I am super interested in hearing about it on every post on this site!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on February 24, 2012, 11:18:17 AM

Has anyone else heard anything about the new Nexus S featuring Tapatalk?

LOL!

Yeah, I noticed that came built in to the tapatalk app. Time to remove it!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on February 25, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
Maybe not quite worth it's own thread, but very useful information when travelling to the US from Canada:  If ever you use your VISA credit card in the US and are asked to enter your (non-existant) zip code, say at a gas station pump, enter the 3 digits from your postal code plus 00 and it will work.  So if your postal code is A1B 2C3, you would enter in 12300, and you're good to go.

VISA told me this before my recent trip to the US and it made life a lot easier at the gas stations in particular.  I can't say whether or not this is applicable to other credit cards too, though it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on February 26, 2012, 05:09:15 AM
My postal code contains three zeros, so it'd be 00000, not sure that would work :s lol
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on February 27, 2012, 12:36:24 AM
I received a free weekend at Elk Horn resort, it's a timeshare thing but I know people that have gone before and its low-pressure and once you say no thanks, they don't ask again.

I like free stuff :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on February 27, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
Oh dear...

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1137273--conservative-scripts-misdirected-voters-in-2011-election-say-call-centre-staff?bn=1
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on February 29, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
My postal code contains three zeros, so it'd be 00000, not sure that would work :s lol

According to VISA it would.  There's lots of rural postal codes with mostly zeros.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on March 06, 2012, 12:49:56 AM
I made cake in a microwave today. It was better than expected.

http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Make_Cake_in_a_Mug
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on March 09, 2012, 10:05:55 AM
The worst feeling in the world is driving down the highway and in the distance you see a vehilce hit the ditch and rollover :/

Thankfully there was only one occupant and he was ok, besides being shaken up.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on March 09, 2012, 10:40:27 AM
Woke up at 4am to the sound of sirens, looked out the window and the neighbor's house was on fire.  Started in the garage (on one side of the house) and it took all of 15 minutes and the whole thing was up in flames.  Everyone is fine and got out ok, but the house is done, including 2 cars in the garage.

We live in the country and houses on our street are far enough apart that it wasn't a danger to us or anyone else, but what a surreal and helpless feeling.  The family is just devastated. They ran out in house coats and flip flops and nothing else.. most likely everything they owned is gone.   :(
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: AlmosGirl on March 09, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Woke up at 4am to the sound of sirens, looked out the window and the neighbor's house was on fire.  Started in the garage (on one side of the house) and it took all of 15 minutes and the whole thing was up in flames.  Everyone is fine and got out ok, but the house is done, including 2 cars in the garage.

We live in the country and houses on our street are far enough apart that it wasn't a danger to us or anyone else, but what a surreal and helpless feeling.  The family is just devastated. They ran out in house coats and flip flops and nothing else.. most likely everything they owned is gone.   :(

That's heartbreaking and sad.  I can't even imagine but the silver lining is that everyone got out ok.  Possessions can be replaced but lives can't.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on March 09, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
Woke up at 4am to the sound of sirens, looked out the window and the neighbor's house was on fire.  Started in the garage (on one side of the house) and it took all of 15 minutes and the whole thing was up in flames.  Everyone is fine and got out ok, but the house is done, including 2 cars in the garage.

We live in the country and houses on our street are far enough apart that it wasn't a danger to us or anyone else, but what a surreal and helpless feeling.  The family is just devastated. They ran out in house coats and flip flops and nothing else.. most likely everything they owned is gone.   :(

oh that's awful. *hugs* Been there. We were eating supper at our dining room table and the sun was shining right in my eyes so I got up to pull shut the curtain......and saw flames coming out of the side window of the house across the street from us. Called 911. It took 'forever' for them to get here (less than six minutes actually, but like you said above, we watched helplessly as the house started to burn and it seems like it takes forever) My husband ran over, kicked down the door and shouted for people. We didn't think anyone was home cause their van was gone. Absolutely awful feeling made even worse when Steve came running down the street (the road was closed off because of all the fire vehicles) and saw it was *his* house.... He was just in shock, and then we all started crying when the firefighters brought out hamster cages with deceased inhabitants in it :-( "How am I gonna explain this to the kids!" Poor guy. Just terrible. And you're right, it's the most awful helpless feeling as you're waiting for the fire dept.

My suggestion to you, if you can do it, is to help the family with some immediate needs. If you can afford it, take kids out for some clothes/toys. Or organise a neighbourhood help in this regard. We talked to the local pet store who gave us supplies and two hamsters for the girls. Our neighbourhood got together to get them emergency clothes etc and took stuff to the cleaners for them and to WalMart/Zellers for other stuff. Luckily, their house wasn't destroyed but there was so much smoke and water damage a lot of stuff had to be replaced anyway. They had to live in a rented place for quite some time while the house was repaired, but their neighbours helped them put together all the sort of stuff you need in the kitchen (where the damage was).

Thank goodness your neighbours got out safely. Hopefully, they had insurance and their material needs will be looked after. Again, *hugs*, I know how awful it feels.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on March 10, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Just got a weird private message at facebook...it said "Who da he** are you, I'll c u"..some girl I used to know added me the other day, and I think that it's her ex, but im not sure ??? So what should I do? Just ignore it?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on March 10, 2012, 03:26:48 PM
You should fight him in the Wendy's parking lot.   Defending your manhood and honour and whatnot.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on March 10, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
You should fight him in the Wendy's parking lot.   Defending your manhood and honour and whatnot.
lol, the funny part is that I don't really care for her either to be honest. So I don't know what the fuzz is about. It's just weird getting messages like that from people you don't even know. I guess that I'll just ignore it.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on March 12, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
Oh man, I just spoke to an international recruitment company who wanted someone to work as a consultant for a huge company. We talked about the salary demands, and I stated my demands, which was higher than it usually is in Sweden for that role. Then they got back to me later today, and they thought that I wanted that salary after taxes, and they agreed on it if I get the job.  ;D And my demand was before taxes.  :P
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on March 12, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
Hey, good luck! :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on March 18, 2012, 04:05:25 AM
Can anyone suggest a good, but inexpensive web host?

The site needs a .com domain and PHP support, but that's about it.   Required bandwidth and server space is minimal.   I really just need to most inexpensive but reliable web hosting company available.   I've been combing through review sites, but the reviews are sometimes very contradictory, so I'm having a hard time choosing.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on March 19, 2012, 11:37:29 AM
Just got a weird private message at facebook...it said "Who da he** are you, I'll c u"..some girl I used to know added me the other day, and I think that it's her ex, but im not sure ??? So what should I do? Just ignore it?

Considering their grammar/spelling is very poor, I don't think you have much to worry about lol
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Darryl on March 21, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Can anyone suggest a good, but inexpensive web host?

The site needs a .com domain and PHP support, but that's about it.   Required bandwidth and server space is minimal.   I really just need to most inexpensive but reliable web hosting company available.   I've been combing through review sites, but the reviews are sometimes very contradictory, so I'm having a hard time choosing.

How much space and room you looking for? I have used http://www.charlottezweb.com/ for Okbluejays.com for years and have nothing but good things to say about them.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Darryl on March 21, 2012, 10:28:35 PM
lol, the funny part is that I don't really care for her either to be honest. So I don't know what the fuzz is about. It's just weird getting messages like that from people you don't even know. I guess that I'll just ignore it.
Stebro get me his address and I'll send Ozzie Canseco to fight the guy in your place. Ozzie told me any time, any where since I told him to stop typing everything in caps lock on twitter.  I figure we give him that guys address kill to morons with one stone :D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Manson on March 21, 2012, 11:05:02 PM
Mikhail Grabovski and Shane Doan look very similar with their helmets on.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Peter D. on March 28, 2012, 10:19:43 AM
Anyone wear a nightguard to prevent grinding their teeth?  I just picked mine up yesterday and wore it last night for the first time -- it's certainly something I'll have to get used to.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Zid on March 28, 2012, 11:09:48 AM
Anyone wear a nightguard to prevent grinding their teeth?  I just picked mine up yesterday and wore it last night for the first time -- it's certainly something I'll have to get used to.

I am wearing mine for over 2 years now. Don't even notice it anymore. It makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sucker Punch on March 28, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
My lady had one, but ground her teeth right through it.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on March 28, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
Anyone wear a nightguard to prevent grinding their teeth?  I just picked mine up yesterday and wore it last night for the first time -- it's certainly something I'll have to get used to.

I got one a couple of months ago but haven't made a real effort to get used to it yet. I was surprised how tightly it sticks to your teeth.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Peter D. on March 28, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
I am wearing mine for over 2 years now. Don't even notice it anymore. It makes a huge difference.

What differences have you noticed?  The only issue I have experienced thus far is recession in my gums, although I've started to feel tension on the sides of my head in recent months. 

I was told though that in a few months, I'll get so used to it that I won't notice it and that it will actually feel weird if I don't wear it.

I got one a couple of months ago but haven't made a real effort to get used to it yet. I was surprised how tightly it sticks to your teeth.

Yeah, when I first tried mine yesterday I was surprised by that.  Also that it's a hard plastic -- I was expecting a bit more flex, similar to a mouth guard worn for hockey.  It was awkward not being able to have my top front teeth close in front of my bottom ones.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Zid on March 28, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
I am wearing mine for over 2 years now. Don't even notice it anymore. It makes a huge difference.

What differences have you noticed?  The only issue I have experienced thus far is recession in my gums, although I've started to feel tension on the sides of my head in recent months. 

I was told though that in a few months, I'll get so used to it that I won't notice it and that it will actually feel weird if I don't wear it.

I got one a couple of months ago but haven't made a real effort to get used to it yet. I was surprised how tightly it sticks to your teeth.

Yeah, when I first tried mine yesterday I was surprised by that.  Also that it's a hard plastic -- I was expecting a bit more flex, similar to a mouth guard worn for hockey.  It was awkward not being able to have my top front teeth close in front of my bottom ones.

I had really sensitive teeth from grinding. It eased it greatly, same with my jaw soreness.  My nightguard is Versteegian, nice and flexible. My gf has a nightguard that's different brand and it's really stiff plastic.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on March 28, 2012, 02:59:37 PM
The one I have is a very hard plastic with a slightly softer plastic inside. The annoying thing is you have to run it under hot water then stick it on your teeth where it'll cool. That's not so annoying, it's just that my wife always wants to talk to me after I stick it in and itsch annnoyig...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 02, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
So, remember Nutman clone and alround Leafs homer 'Leafaholic99'?

Turns out he's ditched the Leafs and become a Jets fan.  Sold all his merchandise on the cheap claiming he ripped the people off because it's Leafs stuff and they suck. 
 no laughing matter, but damn son.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on April 02, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
So, remember Nutman clone and alround Leafs homer 'Leafaholic99'?

Turns out he's ditched the Leafs and become a Jets fan.  Sold all his merchandise on the cheap claiming he ripped the people off because it's Leafs stuff and they suck. 

no laughing matter, but damn son.

I mean, if that's true, it's not really surprising. He started and maintained the Jets thread all year.

Although it's pretty funny that anyone would bail on the Leafs for the runaway success of the Jets.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on April 02, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
I suspected as much.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on April 02, 2012, 10:36:33 PM
Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 03, 2012, 01:50:19 AM
So, remember Nutman clone and alround Leafs homer 'Leafaholic99'?

Turns out he's ditched the Leafs and become a Jets fan.  Sold all his merchandise on the cheap claiming he ripped the people off because it's Leafs stuff and they suck. 

no laughing matter, but damn son.

I think it was an April Fools prank, WIGWAL.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on April 03, 2012, 09:32:49 AM
Where is he though? I just assumed he gave up and probably went full out Jets.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on April 03, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Where is he though? I just assumed he gave up and probably went full out Jets.

He goes by RyanSH now.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on April 03, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
Ah. Cheers.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Madferret on April 03, 2012, 10:37:29 AM
Ever since the 60s leaving cults has been a huge pain in the ass...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on April 03, 2012, 10:43:13 AM
Ever since the 60s leaving cults has been a huge pain in the ass...

Pssshhht! Try recruiting these days.  :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 03, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
I think it was an April Fools prank, WIGWAL.

That would be pretty funny.

The pics of him in a Jets sweater are a good sell too.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 08, 2012, 04:30:22 PM
Anyone ever use wagjag before? Just wondering if there's a way to get around the max buys/person thing. Can you make a separate account and use the same credit card number?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on April 11, 2012, 05:51:23 PM
I used to really enjoy creamed corn as a kid. Now? Lost its allure.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 11, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
I used to really enjoy creamed corn as a kid. Now? Lost its allure.

euwwwwww. I could never, ever eat that. I don't care how good it tastes, it's always looked like puke to me.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on April 11, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
i completely forgot about creamed corn! I used to eat that lots as a kid.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on April 11, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Yeah, couldn't finish it, unfortunately.

In other news, was in the bathtub the other night trying to soak and relax. When my head came out of the water, my ears forgot to drain. That was Sunday, and I have most of my hearing back, though I am going to the doc tomorrow to get the rest of it back. Weird.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Ronco on April 13, 2012, 11:50:15 PM
Mmmm Tea time. Chinese paying $200.00 for a cup of Poo tea made from the dung of pandas.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 14, 2012, 04:39:20 AM
Lmfao!! I thought my April Fools prank was a bust, apparently not lol

I am still a die hard Leafs fan, just haven't really had time for hockey this season, in Sept and Dec I was in training for work, and from the end of Jan until last week I was in college for my level 2 apprenticeship. For those reasons, I have been in Winnipeg for over half the season, so I didn't get nhl center ice and have been unable to watch most Leafs games.

I also started dating my gf back in December, so my free time has been spent with her.

I am a Jets fan as well, but they come second to the Leafs and always will, I wore my Leafaholic 99 jersey to both Leafs/Jets games in Wpg this season and cheered the Leafs on for the whole game!

My gf and I are planning on attending a Leafs/Jets game in Toronto next season, as she has never been there before. I'm going to wear my Leafaholic99 jersey and she is going to wear my Jetsaholic 12 jersey (#12 as our first date was December 12th) :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 14, 2012, 04:42:39 AM
Oh and creamed corn rules, especially when it is placed on top of mashed potatoes mmmm
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Post by: Derk on April 14, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Oh and creamed corn rules, especially when it is placed on top of mashed potatoes mmmm

I would have to agree. I had that combination a few times when I was young. :)
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Post by: Sarge on April 16, 2012, 11:43:27 AM
The "small" salad container in the cafeteria here at work holds quite a bit more stuff than the "large" one and is obviously cheaper. - Been that way for a couple years and they haven't clued in. Stupid people are awesome!   
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 16, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Lmfao!! I thought my April Fools prank was a bust, apparently not
Well played sir, well played.
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Post by: Corn Flake on April 16, 2012, 12:48:20 PM
i completely forgot about creamed corn! I used to eat that lots as a kid.

Yeah I had forgotten too... until now.  :-[
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Post by: Damian on April 16, 2012, 01:45:11 PM
Oh and creamed corn rules, especially when it is placed on top of mashed potatoes mmmm

I would have to agree. I had that combination a few times when I was young. :)

That combo, in a pot, with some garlic, onions and cilantro makes an excellent corn chowder
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Post by: Madferret on April 20, 2012, 09:32:17 AM
Happy 420
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 20, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Happy 420
Was coming here to say this!

Have a good one!
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Post by: Sarge on April 20, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
 :-[ What am I missing?
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 20, 2012, 11:23:11 AM
:-[ What am I missing?

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1165023--how-420-came-to-be-a-marijuana-day-the-real-story

I heard about it on the Stafford show this morning, cause I was asking the same question.
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Post by: Sarge on April 20, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
Ah. Cheers.
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Post by: Madferret on April 20, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
Happy 420
Was coming here to say this!

Have a good one!

You too mate
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Post by: Madferret on April 20, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
:-[ What am I missing?

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1165023--how-420-came-to-be-a-marijuana-day-the-real-story

I heard about it on the Stafford show this morning, cause I was asking the same question.

No judging! ;]
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on April 20, 2012, 01:14:56 PM
420 usually means my bedtime is 430.   :(  >:(  :o  8)  ;D
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Post by: Sarge on April 20, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
4 cans of Pringles in 20 minutes?
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 20, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
420 usually means my bedtime is 430.   :(  >:(  :o  8)  ;D
Put down that Indica and pick up the Sativa my friend.
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Post by: Madferret on April 20, 2012, 01:18:43 PM
420 usually means my bedtime is 430.   :(  >:(  :o  8)  ;D

tuggin at 425?
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Post by: Corn Flake on April 20, 2012, 01:29:23 PM
4 cans of Pringles in 20 minutes?

That comes right after the uh, you know.. other thing.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on April 20, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
420 usually means my bedtime is 430.   :(  >:(  :o  8)  ;D
Put down that Indica and pick up the Sativa my friend.

I did not know this.  Thanks, I may have to make a phone call.   ;D
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 25, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
I have a student in my class who has Cerebral Palsy, she just sang an original song called disability to the whole class; all about her struggle and how it relates to her classmates.  Damn you chopped onions!
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Post by: Tigger on April 25, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
5 things invented by Donald Duck (http://www.cracked.com/article_19021_5-amazing-things-invented-by-donald-duck-seriously.html)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Peter D. on May 03, 2012, 12:49:52 PM
Whether or not you agree with Mayor Ford's policies/beliefs or not, I don't think he should really be faulted for the way he reacted towards the Star reporter last night. 
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Post by: Bender on May 03, 2012, 01:02:59 PM
Whether or not you agree with Mayor Ford's policies/beliefs or not, I don't think he should really be faulted for the way he reacted towards the Star reporter last night.

He was close enough to the property to arouse suspicion. Besides, its not like the guy was there in the middle of the day. It was the evening - I sure as hell wouldn't want some skulking reporter - or maybe worse, a thief! - even remotely near my property at night.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on May 04, 2012, 12:41:01 AM
I don't know, if someone told me someone was outside of my house looking towards it, on public land, my first reaction would probably be to confirm that the person was actually doing that rather than react like a lunatic and attempt to fight him.

But that's just me.
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Post by: Bender on May 04, 2012, 12:49:25 AM
I don't know, if someone told me someone was outside of my house looking towards it, on public land, my first reaction would probably be to confirm that the person was actually doing that rather than react like a lunatic and attempt to fight him.

But that's just me.

Yeah, but that scenario is entirely dependent on your version of things. A guy walking by is one thing but a guy right outside of your house taking pictures when you've had issues in the past with privacy? Right outside your fence? This REALLY does not sound usual. Its not like he was on the sidewalk. I'd get my back up for sure if it looked like someone had a camera aimed at my house for longer than 10 seconds.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 01:07:02 AM
Yeah, but that scenario is entirely dependent on your version of things. A guy walking by is one thing but a guy right outside of your house taking pictures when you've had issues in the past with privacy? Right outside your fence? This REALLY does not sound usual. Its not like he was on the sidewalk. I'd get my back up for sure if it looked like someone had a camera aimed at my house for longer than 10 seconds.

If I were genuinely concerned, I'd lock the doors and call the cops. If I lived next to a large plot of public land, I'd probably have to learn to live with the idea of people being near my house.
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Post by: Potvin29 on May 04, 2012, 01:07:14 AM
Has it been proved he was actually taking pictures of his house?  If he saw him taking pictures of his house, then sure, but so far all I've read is that Ford claimed someone told him he was, and I'm not inclined to take him at his word at this point, especially when it comes to the media.

If he was taking pictures of the ravine/park area, etc due to the Ford's wanting to purchase it, and in doing so had to be near Ford's property with a camera, then I don't have a problem with it.

And really, could Ford not have just come out, found out what was going on (maybe the reporter would have explained it to him?) and then reacted, instead of going into instant Hulkmayor mode?
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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 02:26:27 AM
Ford seems, oh I dunno, kind of a reactive sort of chap. I'm not really surprised by his actions but I have to wonder, if that wasn't a reporter and say someone who actually meant to do him harm, wouldn't he just be walking right into it?

Also, is this some kind of record for a mayor having the police called to his home?

..."nuts, nuts, nuts"...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on May 04, 2012, 02:37:44 AM
He is very reactive and impulsive and crazy for someone who is the mayor of a huge city.
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Post by: Spare Change on May 04, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
Has it been proved he was actually taking pictures of his house?  If he saw him taking pictures of his house, then sure, but so far all I've read is that Ford claimed someone told him he was, and I'm not inclined to take him at his word at this point, especially when it comes to the media.

If he was taking pictures of the ravine/park area, etc due to the Ford's wanting to purchase it, and in doing so had to be near Ford's property with a camera, then I don't have a problem with it.

And really, could Ford not have just come out, found out what was going on (maybe the reporter would have explained it to him?) and then reacted, instead of going into instant Hulkmayor mode?

It's been confirmed that the cinder blocks were placed outside his fence (the photographer used them as a stool).Also, it's his neighbor who saw someone in the backyard and went over to rob fords house to tell him.

I don't see anyway to spin this positively for Toronto Star. It seems like a joke, 7:30 at night, taking pictures of the mayors back yard? Extremely excessive and unnecessary. Whether it's for they story Dale claimed or not, either let him know that you're taking pictures, or do it during the day, like a normal person would've.

Why is the onus on Ford to put protecting his family second behind making sure the guy taking pictures of his backyard and *possibly* into his house is well-intentioned. Ford never touched him, he approached him aggressively, sure, but this is just the Toronto Star getting extremely out of hand on the way they deal with Rob Ford.

I'm not going to defend Ford by saying he acted 100% appropriate, but I can't blame the guy for his actions. Wether it's charging at Dale, though never touching him, or threatening media blackouts (which I disagree with) i'd say enough has happened to justify Fords actions.

http://blogs.canada.com/2012/05/03/rob-ford-vs-the-toronto-star-cant-we-just-all-get-along/

Toronto Star handling it "professionally" as the mayor declines to release his security video to the media.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 09:12:05 AM
It's been confirmed that the cinder blocks were placed outside his fence (the photographer used them as a stool).Also, it's his neighbor who saw someone in the backyard and went over to rob fords house to tell him.

Nothing's really been confirmed in this. We have Ford's story and Dale's story both of which are quite different.

I don't see anyway to spin this positively for Toronto Star. It seems like a joke, 7:30 at night, taking pictures of the mayors back yard? Extremely excessive and unnecessary. Whether it's for they story Dale claimed or not, either let him know that you're taking pictures, or do it during the day, like a normal person would've.

At 7:30 PM the sun would still have been up. A reporter, especially one on the city hall beat, can't do everything in their job between 9-5 because those are the hours that probably require him to be at city hall. He wasn't some weirdo skulking around someone's backyard in the pitch of night, he was on public land while it was still light out. 

Why is the onus on Ford to put protecting his family second behind making sure the guy taking pictures of his backyard and *possibly* into his house is well-intentioned.

The same reason that the onus is on everyone in existence to put making sure you're actually being threatened before you react as if it were the case.
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Post by: Corn Flake on May 04, 2012, 09:36:23 AM
Ford seems, oh I dunno, kind of a reactive sort of chap. I'm not really surprised by his actions but I have to wonder, if that wasn't a reporter and say someone who actually meant to do him harm, wouldn't he just be walking right into it?

Also, is this some kind of record for a mayor having the police called to his home?

..."nuts, nuts, nuts"...

Don't know if he is right or wrong on this latest one but yeah the optics repeated calls to the police for a variety of things both inside and outside his home are really not good at all. 

What amazes me is despite the fact this guy attracts and/or brings upon himself all kinds of noise, it somehow seems to wash off his back pretty easily.  It just seems like an average mayor or even mayoral candidate would have been booted a long time ago for the things Ford has gotten into. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 09:41:42 AM
What amazes me is despite the fact this guy attracts and/or brings upon himself all kinds of noise, it somehow seems to wash off his back pretty easily.  It just seems like an average mayor or even mayoral candidate would have been booted a long time ago for the things Ford has gotten into.

Like, via a recall election? I'm not even sure what the mechanism for that would be.

Anyways, I don't know that he's that much more of an embarrassment then Mel Lastman was and he stuck around until the bitter end.
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Post by: Sarge on May 04, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
Pistachios. - I love you so.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Spare Change on May 04, 2012, 10:00:07 AM
It's been confirmed that the cinder blocks were placed outside his fence (the photographer used them as a stool).Also, it's his neighbor who saw someone in the backyard and went over to rob fords house to tell him.

Nothing's really been confirmed in this. We have Ford's story and Dale's story both of which are quite different.

Zravko Gagro, Ford’s next door neighbour, reported seeing a man just before 8 p.m. – about 30 minutes before sundown.

“He looked very fishy, and I went to the Mayor’s house and I told him what was going on,” Gagro said. (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/03/mayor-rob-ford-doesnt-deny-charging-at-star-reporter-with-a-raised-fist/)

That's the neighbour confirming he saw someone poking around the backyard before he went to tell Ford.
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I don't see anyway to spin this positively for Toronto Star. It seems like a joke, 7:30 at night, taking pictures of the mayors back yard? Extremely excessive and unnecessary. Whether it's for they story Dale claimed or not, either let him know that you're taking pictures, or do it during the day, like a normal person would've.

At 7:30 PM the sun would still have been up. A reporter, especially one on the city hall beat, can't do everything in their job between 9-5 because those are the hours that probably require him to be at city hall. He wasn't some weirdo skulking around someone's backyard in the pitch of night, he was on public land while it was still light out. 
I won't disagree with the working outside 9-5, but if you're going to the mayors house, knowing there has already been incidents not only with your paper, but incidents at his home with a comedian, does it really make sense to sneak around his backyard at 7:30pm? Also, Ford claims (hasn't been verified yet, so I'll wont state it as fact) that Dale was a big distance away from the land Ford was trying to buy.
He's trying to buy land at the side of the property, not at the back fence where the altercation happened.

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Why is the onus on Ford to put protecting his family second behind making sure the guy taking pictures of his backyard and *possibly* into his house is well-intentioned.

The same reason that the onus is on everyone in existence to put making sure you're actually being threatened before you react as if it were the case.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. This isn't the first time the media has caused an issue on his property, let alone the 2nd time he's had to call police.

He's received death threats in the past,which would put any normal person on edge. While I don't think it was smart to go out to see who's snooping, he came out aggressively but never touched the guy. 

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
It's pretty stupid to aggressively confront a complete stranger snooping around outside your house.

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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 10:14:29 AM
That's the neighbour confirming he saw someone poking around the backyard before he went to tell Ford.

Sure, it's been confirmed that Dale was there but you stated as a fact that those cinder blocks had been placed there and that Dale was standing on them. That's not confirmed in the story you link to or anywhere else.


I won't disagree with the working outside 9-5, but if you're going to the mayors house, knowing there has already been incidents not only with your paper, but incidents at his home with a comedian, does it really make sense to sneak around his backyard at 7:30pm? Also, Ford claims (hasn't been verified yet, so I'll wont state it as fact) that Dale was a big distance away from the land Ford was trying to buy.

Again, that presupposes that Dale was "sneaking", which is a loaded word, vs. just standing on public property and taking pictures of it. Dale's admitted that the piece of land he was on wasn't the land Ford was trying to buy but there's no dispute that Dale was, at all times, on public property.

And, no, I don't think it's Dale's responsibility to inform the Mayor as to the stories he's working on to preclude the Mayor acting like a nutbag.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. This isn't the first time the media has caused an issue on his property, let alone the 2nd time he's had to call police.

Again, nobody is making a claim that anything here happened on Ford's property. Ford came out aggressively to confront someone on public property.
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Post by: Corn Flake on May 04, 2012, 10:15:13 AM
What amazes me is despite the fact this guy attracts and/or brings upon himself all kinds of noise, it somehow seems to wash off his back pretty easily.  It just seems like an average mayor or even mayoral candidate would have been booted a long time ago for the things Ford has gotten into.

Like, via a recall election? I'm not even sure what the mechanism for that would be.

Anyways, I don't know that he's that much more of an embarrassment then Mel Lastman was and he stuck around until the bitter end.

Like, via resignation.

Mel wasn't exactly an "average" mayor .. but his problem was more about saying stupid things than getting into all sorts of confrontations with the public, media, etc.. some physical or almost physical.

While mayors say and do all kinds of bizarre things in their role (of which Ford has more than his fair share there too), it has gotten out of hand personal with Ford with the after hours stuff, at his home, etc.  A lot he has brought on himself and the rest the media are doing a great job of obsessing over his every personal move.  The combination has caused these confrontations at his home.  This isn't the first one.   The Star seems to have made it their mission to poke the bear as much as possible because they know he is easy to set off.

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Post by: Manson on May 04, 2012, 10:15:31 AM
Ford is a bully, plain and simple.  That's why he reacts the way he does.  I can just imagine this jerk with his football jock buddies in high school.

With all the anti-bullying campaigns going on in schools these days it absolutely disgusts me that one of these guys has risen to where he has. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 10:17:38 AM
It's pretty stupid to aggressively confront a complete stranger snooping around outside your house.

The thing of it is, Dale isn't a complete stranger to the Mayor. He works the city hall beat.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 10:21:52 AM
While mayors say and do all kinds of bizarre things in their role (of which Ford has more than his fair share there too), it has gotten out of hand personal with Ford with the after hours stuff, at his home, etc. 

I don't think this qualifies as that. I don't think there's anything personal about a city hall reporter finding out that the mayor wants to buy a piece of public land and taking a look at that land.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 10:30:22 AM
It's pretty stupid to aggressively confront a complete stranger snooping around outside your house.

The thing of it is, Dale isn't a complete stranger to the Mayor. He works the city hall beat.

Did Ford know it was him though? If thats the case, then I don't see anything wrong here. It's no secret Ford has a short fuse, so nobody should really be surprised or shocked by this (non) story. I'd be mad if someone was taking pictures of my house too.

The real issue is that the Star has turned this into a personal vendetta against Ford. This isn't the kind of thing that's going to bring him down. The job he's done as the mayor speaks for itself. There are people fighting to keep their jobs and feed their families in this city. Nobody gives a rats behind about Ford's bad temper. At least nobody should anyway...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 10:33:21 AM
Did Ford know it was him though?

According to Ford, yes.

If thats the case, then I don't see anything wrong here. It's no secret Ford has a short fuse, so nobody should really be surprised or shocked by this (non) story. I'd be mad if someone was taking pictures of my house too.

Well, leaving aside the fact that I'm pretty sure it'd be legal of me to stand on the sidewalk and take pictures of your house Dale, by his account, wasn't taking pictures of Ford's house. He was taking pictures of a piece of public land adjacent to the Mayor's house.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on May 04, 2012, 10:56:33 AM
While mayors say and do all kinds of bizarre things in their role (of which Ford has more than his fair share there too), it has gotten out of hand personal with Ford with the after hours stuff, at his home, etc. 

I don't think this qualifies as that. I don't think there's anything personal about a city hall reporter finding out that the mayor wants to buy a piece of public land and taking a look at that land.

Ford clearly has some frayed nerve endings right now. The media have been all over the guy, especially the Star. Seeing a reporter or whoever he thought it was at the time poking around on or near his property obviously set him off. 

I can't believe I'm taking his side on this but I think it's fair to say he has had more media digging around his business, at a personal level, than any previous mayor or politician I can recall. 

I don't defend his actions for a second but I get why he would be pissed off.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 11:04:43 AM
Did Ford know it was him though?

According to Ford, yes.

If thats the case, then I don't see anything wrong here. It's no secret Ford has a short fuse, so nobody should really be surprised or shocked by this (non) story. I'd be mad if someone was taking pictures of my house too.

Well, leaving aside the fact that I'm pretty sure it'd be legal of me to stand on the sidewalk and take pictures of your house Dale, by his account, wasn't taking pictures of Ford's house. He was taking pictures of a piece of public land adjacent to the Mayor's house.

Well, if Ford knew it was him, then I'm not surprised at all by his reaction.

Did Ford know what he was taking pictures of, before he confronted him?

Finally, why is Ford legally buying a piece of land a news story worthy of special attention that a reporter has to go out at 8pm to take pictures of it?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 11:06:13 AM
Ford clearly has some frayed nerve endings right now. The media have been all over the guy, especially the Star. Seeing a reporter or whoever he thought it was at the time poking around on or near his property obviously set him off. 

I can't believe I'm taking his side on this but I think it's fair to say he has had more media digging around his business, at a personal level, than any previous mayor or politician I can recall. 

Like I said, I don't think a newspaper investigating any public official's attempt to purchase a piece of public land is outside the normal realm of investigative journalism or emblematic of a personal vendetta.

Clearly something set Ford off here but I'm not entirely sure it was a reasonable something or that he reacted the way a mature adult should. Definitely not the way someone who holds an important public office should.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 11:13:52 AM
Well, if Ford knew it was him, then I'm not surprised at all by his reaction.

Alright but it undercuts the idea, put forth by a lot of people defending Ford, that he was doing it out of concern for his or his family's safety. If I saw someone I knew near my house I wouldn't immediately think I was in Cape Fear.

Did Ford know what he was taking pictures of, before he confronted him?

Probably not. That's why the reasonable and mature response would have been "Hey Daniel, what are you doing?" as opposed to charging at him with a fist cocked.

Finally, why is Ford legally buying a piece of land a news story worthy of special attention that a reporter has to go out at 8pm to take pictures of it?

Well, for starters, it's fairly unusual for anyone, let alone the mayor, to buy public land if it's not actively for sale, hence the request(and Ford hasn't bought the land. He's just trying to). Secondly, it wasn't a story, it was investigation into whether or not it should be a story. Finally, it was 7:30 and still light out. As mentioned, if someone is working the city hall beat their investigation is going to have to be outside of normal working hours.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Corn Flake on May 04, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
Clearly something set Ford off here but I'm not entirely sure it was a reasonable something or that he reacted the way a mature adult should. Definitely not the way someone who holds an important public office should.

Absolutely. He behaved in this case and most other situations like a kid with anger problems.  He's way too sensitive for a guy who repeatedly steps in it and gets called on it.
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Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 11:34:28 AM
Well, if Ford knew it was him, then I'm not surprised at all by his reaction.

Alright but it undercuts the idea, put forth by a lot of people defending Ford, that he was doing it out of concern for his or his family's safety. If I saw someone I knew near my house I wouldn't immediately think I was in Cape Fear.

Did Ford know what he was taking pictures of, before he confronted him?

Probably not. That's why the reasonable and mature response would have been "Hey Daniel, what are you doing?" as opposed to charging at him with a fist cocked.

Finally, why is Ford legally buying a piece of land a news story worthy of special attention that a reporter has to go out at 8pm to take pictures of it?

Well, for starters, it's fairly unusual for anyone, let alone the mayor, to buy public land if it's not actively for sale, hence the request(and Ford hasn't bought the land. He's just trying to). Secondly, it wasn't a story, it was investigation into whether or not it should be a story. Finally, it was 7:30 and still light out. As mentioned, if someone is working the city hall beat their investigation is going to have to be outside of normal working hours.

Are you really surprised by how he reacted?

Also, if im not mistaken, the land is owned by TRCA, which is not public.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: bustaheims on May 04, 2012, 11:37:42 AM
Absolutely. He behaved in this case and most other situations like a kid with anger problems.  He's way too sensitive for a guy who repeatedly steps in it and gets called on it.

That's part of the reason there's the perception that there's more media digging around his business - his reactions to it are much more newsworthy than any other Toronto mayor is recent history.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
Are you really surprised by how he reacted?

Am I surprised that this particular man reacted in this particular way? No, not especially. The only thing I'm trying to say is that this incident is further evidence that we've got a buffoonish oaf of a mayor as opposed to the narrative that it's evidence of a vindictive or invasive media.

Also, if im not mistaken, the land is owned by TRCA, which is not public.

It was described in the Star as Public land but if it's owned by the TRCA that description isn't, as you say, completely accurate. That said, buying land from the TRCA would still be something unusual for a Mayor to do and would be worthy of investigation.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Spare Change on May 04, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
Are you really surprised by how he reacted?

Am I surprised that this particular man reacted in this particular way? No, not especially. The only thing I'm trying to say is that this incident is further evidence that we've got a buffoonish oaf of a mayor as opposed to the narrative that it's evidence of a vindictive or invasive media.

 The star has pretty aggressively pursued Rob Ford on every story, true or not. It started from false claims they made in 2010 and has just continued to spiral.  http://p.twimg.com/AsAjFKVCIAEYNoo.jpg  I hardly call that top notch journalism.
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Also, if im not mistaken, the land is owned by TRCA, which is not public.

It was described in the Star as Public land but if it's owned by the TRCA that description isn't, as you say, completely accurate. That said, buying land from the TRCA would still be something unusual for a Mayor to do and would be worthy of investigation.
Its a minor plot of land, so that he can increase his home security. I can understand trying to justifying this as a story, but seriously, this is how the Star approaches it?

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Derk on May 04, 2012, 12:56:32 PM
Frankly, neither side has a lot of credibility here. Ford flies off the handle really quickly, and the Star seems to enjoy "poking the bear" as was suggested above.

Given what has happened in the past, what happened was probably fairly predictable.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 01:12:10 PM
The star has pretty aggressively pursued Rob Ford on every story, true or not.

Good. What's the old line about the point of Journalism being to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable?

Its a minor plot of land, so that he can increase his home security. I can understand trying to justifying this as a story, but seriously, this is how the Star approaches it?

By sending someone out there to look at the land in broad daylight, while not trespassing on anyone's private property? Yes, that is how they approach investigative journalism and good for them.
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Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 01:40:04 PM
Why does the reporter need to see over Ford's fence to look at land that is not on Ford's property? Furthermore, who cares if he want to buy land? Are they going to stick an investigative journalist on him when he buys underwear? He has money, he wants to buy the land from a private owner. Who cares?

Lastly, everyone already knows he's a buffoonish oaf, so this is nothing new and once again, a non story. Ford losing his temper is as breaking a news story as Ford buying a cheeseburger.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 01:53:25 PM
Why does the reporter need to see over Ford's fence to look at land that is not on Ford's property?

The claim that Dale was standing on anything to look into Ford's backyard is one that Dale denies but, for the sake of argument, if Ford's position on buying the land is that purchasing the land would be in the interest of improving his home's security it's reasonable to, in a non invasive manner, see if that's true.

He has money, he wants to buy the land from a private owner. Who cares?

Calling the TRCA a private owner is just as misleading as saying they're public. They're a conservation authority established by and still regulated by provincial act. They're not in the habit of selling the land they own.
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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
I find it kind of funny that the reason for purchasing the land is for 'security' but won't really make his house any more 'secure' as far as this situation goes.

I'd like to see the videotape, maybe it could shed some light on the subject.
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Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
Why does the reporter need to see over Ford's fence to look at land that is not on Ford's property?

The claim that Dale was standing on anything to look into Ford's backyard is one that Dale denies but, for the sake of argument, if Ford's position on buying the land is that purchasing the land would be in the interest of improving his home's security it's reasonable to, in a non invasive manner, see if that's true.

He has money, he wants to buy the land from a private owner. Who cares?

Calling the TRCA a private owner is just as misleading as saying they're public. They're a conservation authority established by and still regulated by provincial act. They're not in the habit of selling the land they own.

But they are in the habit of taking money. Regardless, it's not as if the Province, or the Feds for that matter, have never sold property to a private entity. It's also not lie he's buying Albion Hills or something. It's a piece of land only made significant by the Star's tabloid journalism. Show me that he's buying with public money and it might be something worth investigating.

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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 05:30:47 PM
But they are in the habit of taking money, and he's offering them money.

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The TRCA’s decision would be precedent-setting: The TRCA hasn't sold park land to a private citizen in at least 20 years, according to Jim Dillane, the authority's director of finance and business services.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/ford-proposal-to-buy-park-land-takes-step-forward/article2422974/?service=mobile
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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
Also from that article...

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Councillor Glenn De Baeremaeker, the lone committee member to vote against studying the Fords’ request, warned that granting it would “open the floodgates” to every security-conscious homeowner whose property abuts TRCA land.

I can see why a journalist might be interested in that.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
But they are in the habit of taking money.Regardless, it's not as if the Province, or the Feds for that matter, have never sold property to a private entity. It's also not lie he's buying Albion Hills or something. It's a piece of land only made significant by the Star's tabloid journalism. Show me that he's buying with public money and it might be something worth investigating.

As Tig points out, that's not really true. The TRCA almost never sells land to a private citizen.

So if you're a journalist who hears that a conservation authority has been positioned to make an almost unheard of sale to a private citizen and that citizen is the friggin' Mayor you think it's "tabloid journalism" to send out a reporter just to look at the land? Nobody wrote a story under the headline "Mayor pulls strings to get cheap land". Dale just went out and looked at it. Not everything that someone investigates leads somewhere.
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Post by: TML fan on May 04, 2012, 08:41:34 PM
 They've sold land before, just not in a long time. TRCA can sell its land to whoever it wants, or not as the case may be.

At the end of the day, Ford buying the land means absolutely nothing to the citizens of Toronto. Half the population of the city probably doesn't even know what the TRCA is. I think the length of time between land sales is pretty irrelevant. It's not like it's never happened. If Rob Ford bought a Betamax, would that be news too?

The point is that this is not a newsworthy story, and if it WASN'T Rob Ford, they likely wouldn't have sent anyone to investigate because nobody cares. Why should we care that it's Ford?
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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
I think the Councillor clearly disagrees with you and if it wasn't for the altercation it might not have made the news cycle in such a fashion. I don't see anything untoward with a journalist taking interest in this, unusual land deals are subject to investigation all the time.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 04, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
They've sold land before, just not in a long time. TRCA can sell its land to whoever it wants, or not as the case may be.

Again, this is not true. The TRCA operates under a mandate from the Conservation Authorities Act. They are not a private organization that gets to make up their own rules as they choose.

At the end of the day, Ford buying the land means absolutely nothing to the citizens of Toronto. Half the population of the city probably doesn't even know what the TRCA is. I think the length of time between land sales is pretty irrelevant. It's not like it's never happened.

The point is that this is not a newsworthy story, and if it WASN'T Rob Ford, they likely wouldn't have sent anyone to investigate because nobody cares. Why should we care that it's Ford?

For starters, I disagree. Regardless of how informed the average citizen is about the TRCA is, I think that the idea of Conservational Authority selling public lands to private citizens is something that would be of public interest regardless of who that citizen is or the reasoning behind it. Contrary to what you seem to be saying, the TRCA aren't real estate developers and they don't have the mandate to just decide on a whim to sell land.

But that's not even the point. I don't think you're really getting what Tig and I are saying here. The merits of some fictitious story that the Star might have hypothetically printed had Dale found something newsworthy isn't really much of a subject of discussion. The issue is whether or not something extremely unusual, like the TRCA selling land to a private citizen who's also the Mayor, merits investigation. If, as you say, there was nothing to the story then there would be nothing to print.

But the implication that there's something improper in the extremely mild level of investigation into this matter(simply looking at the land in question) doesn't pass the smell test. Dale was well within his rights to be out there and looking into the matter.
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Post by: Tigger on May 04, 2012, 10:42:43 PM
If I'm being fair I'll say this, I don't like Rob Ford but I recently went through a reverse version of this process. I just finished selling a lot off my land that is, by definition, a fairly normal transaction but subject to potential investigation by other interested parties.

During the process I had at least 8 occurrences of people stopping, taking pictures and moving on that I'm aware of. I didn't like it, I'm a hermit by habit but I understood the necessity of making things public and dealing. I'm also not a mayor of anything but my own castle.

Never once did it occur to me to take matters into my own hands, I never called the police.

When you make a decision to enter into a situation like this you take on the issues that follow in a level headed adult way, or, risk some sort of failure as a result.

Ford, and again I admit bias here as I don't like him, may have felt threatened but that doesn't absolve him of his actions. People who have interest in your situation are generally allowed to pursue that interest without having to worry about bodily harm or other such nonsense.

For argument, if it was me, had I found a person that I was familiar with taking such interest in what I was doing on public land near my property I'd probably ask them in and see what they were about, well, if I had nothing to hide, exploit or fear... seems fair too in spite of how bad a host I can be.

What I find absolutely fascinating is that a guy who's had death threats seems to think that running outside and confronting people in a rage is an answer to anything, and he's the mayor of a pretty big town.
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Post by: TML fan on May 05, 2012, 02:16:34 AM
They've sold land before, just not in a long time. TRCA can sell its land to whoever it wants, or not as the case may be.

Again, this is not true. The TRCA operates under a mandate from the Conservation Authorities Act. They are not a private organization that gets to make up their own rules as they choose.

At the end of the day, Ford buying the land means absolutely nothing to the citizens of Toronto. Half the population of the city probably doesn't even know what the TRCA is. I think the length of time between land sales is pretty irrelevant. It's not like it's never happened.

The point is that this is not a newsworthy story, and if it WASN'T Rob Ford, they likely wouldn't have sent anyone to investigate because nobody cares. Why should we care that it's Ford?

For starters, I disagree. Regardless of how informed the average citizen is about the TRCA is, I think that the idea of Conservational Authority selling public lands to private citizens is something that would be of public interest regardless of who that citizen is or the reasoning behind it. Contrary to what you seem to be saying, the TRCA aren't real estate developers and they don't have the mandate to just decide on a whim to sell land.

But that's not even the point. I don't think you're really getting what Tig and I are saying here. The merits of some fictitious story that the Star might have hypothetically printed had Dale found something newsworthy isn't really much of a subject of discussion. The issue is whether or not something extremely unusual, like the TRCA selling land to a private citizen who's also the Mayor, merits investigation. If, as you say, there was nothing to the story then there would be nothing to print.

But the implication that there's something improper in the extremely mild level of investigation into this matter(simply looking at the land in question) doesn't pass the smell test. Dale was well within his rights to be out there and looking into the matter.

But what is there to investigate? I understand that you think people should care. I'm asking you WHY people should care, and WHY him being the Mayor makes it so much more worth investigating? I mean, if it came to light that he was using public funds or giving the TRCA some sort of benefit with the city, then maybe people should give a damn, but what Ford does in his personal time is his own business and doesn't reflect one bit on the job he does as the Mayor.

We have already established the fact that the TRCA has sold land to private citizens in the past, so we know that A) it IS possible and B) it is not unheard of. So why is this some big precedent setting event that you and Tigger and some city councillor think it is? What if he was trying to buy the land off the city? Or a neighbor? In the end does it REALLY matter who it's from? If so, why?

Lastly, if all they need is photos of the land, then they can send someone with a camera to the location during the day to take pictures when Ford isnt at home.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on May 05, 2012, 09:17:10 AM
Most of that has already been answered, it's very unusual and would merit investigation to discern the circumstances on the ground whether it was Ford or not. What's to investigate? The w5 of a land deal involving the TRCA.

During the 'day'? You mean daylight hours or 9 to 5? Personally I think 7:30 is fairly reasonable for a journalist to have a look given sunset is an hour away at this time of year. I mean, if it's ok for a photographer during 'working hours', what's the actual difference? Why does Ford's or anyone else's absence matter?

I don't think the journalist in question was just there for photos though, he was there to get a feel for what was going on, photos don't always tell you that.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on May 05, 2012, 11:27:34 AM
But what is there to investigate?

There is no way to know something like that unless you investigate. Good investigative journalism isn't sitting around an office until someone calls you up and says "Something shady is going on, someone just handed a city councillor a big bribe!".

Upon news that the TRCA was petitioned to make an extremely unconventional deal with a private citizen, the mayor, the Star began the process of investigation by means of having a reporter look at the land to see if there was anything suspicious. That's the starting point of an investigation. The fact that there's that basic level of investigation is not tantamount to saying that their investigation will turn up something untowards but unless you investigate you'd never know.

We have already established the fact that the TRCA has sold land to private citizens in the past, so we know that A) it IS possible and B) it is not unheard of. So why is this some big precedent setting event that you and Tigger and some city councillor think it is? What if he was trying to buy the land off the city? Or a neighbor? In the end does it REALLY matter who it's from? If so, why?

Most of those questions have already been answered. A conservation authority being petitioned to do something they haven't done for 20 years is newsworthy because of the whole purpose of conservation authorities. It would represent a policy shift. As the councillor points out, if approved, it would open the floodgates to other requests from other security minded individuals.

I'm pretty sure you can work out the difference between the public's interest in a sale of public land, land owned by a conservation authority and a land deal between two private citizens by yourself.

Lastly, if all they need is photos of the land, then they can send someone with a camera to the location during the day to take pictures when Ford isnt at home.

This kind of reveals that you're not overly familiar with the way a modern newsroom works. There aren't dozens of photographers sitting around looking for something to do. Most papers will have a few staff photographers and maybe a couple of freelancers. The paper will use those people to be actively gathering photos of pictures of stories that will find their way into tomorrow's paper. They won't have the time or money to send them out to snap pictures of something that might never get into the paper for investigative purposes.

But, as Tigger points out, it wasn't just a matter of photos. It was a matter of investigating the legitimacy of Ford's claim that he needed the land to improve his house's security. Part of that involves looking at the land and its relation to Ford's house.
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Post by: TML fan on May 05, 2012, 12:03:28 PM
It seems to me that Ford just wants the land, and it's more of an inconvenience that TRCA owns it. Selling it doesn't open any floodgates. The floodgates were opened 20 years ago when they first sold land to a private citizen. Councillor whatshisface can sit there and say that they don't sell land to citizens, but the fact is that they have, and can again under the right circumstances.

It also seems to me that the Star, with a known axe to grind against the Mayor, is the only newspaper that decided to "investigate" this so called newsworthy story....with a cellphone camera. He didn't even need a photographer. Just some guy with a cellphone. He could have done this when Ford wasn't home.

I understand where you are coming from, and you make good points, particularly about him needing the land for security reasons, but this reporter was completely unprofessional and his credibility is paper thin. With the Star's history with Ford, the only part of his story I'm buying is that Ford got pissed off.



Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 05, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
It seems to me that Ford just wants the land, and it's more of an inconvenience that TRCA owns it. Selling it doesn't open any floodgates. The floodgates were opened 20 years ago when they first sold land to a private citizen.

Do you know that 20 years ago was the first time that TRCA sold land to a private citizen? Because if not it could have been a practice that they stopped as evidenced by the fact that it hasn't happened for 20 years. Were the circumstances the same? Was it a sale to a developer of land that was deemed in the public's interest? Or was it, like this, a sale to a homeowner for the purposes of "increasing security".

The fact that the TRCA once sold land to a private citizen, many years ago(and I'll be honest all I've got to go on for that is that quote from the councillor, doesn't immediately set a precedent for all future sales.

I'm going to guess that you don't have an answer for those questions because, quite frankly, I've looked and haven't found much about the TRCA's history of selling land. But that's precisely why, when the possibility of TRCA doing something they haven't done in a generation, it behooves an investigative reporter to look into the matter and find these things out, whether or not it results in a story being written. 

It also seems to me that the Star, with a known axe to grind against the Mayor, is the only newspaper that decided to "investigate" this so called newsworthy story....with a cellphone camera. He didn't even need a photographer.

Again, photographers wouldn't be used in the purpose of investigation before they knew what the story was.

And you're leaping to conclusions. You have no idea if any other paper looked into this matter. They may not have printed anything yet but that doesn't mean an investigation didn't take place. All we know is that Dale is the only reporter our moron mayor decided to run at. This "so called story" is only being called a story by you because you're not drawing the line between a story(which is actually printed or reported) and an investigation. The only actual story this investigation resulted in, so far anyway, is the story about the confrontation.

Just some guy with a cellphone. He could have done this when Ford wasn't home.

As mentioned, that's not really realistic considering he already has a job as a city hall reporter. Anything outside of that would have to come outside of normal working hours.

But more to the point, why should it? He was standing on TRCA land, looking at TRCA land. He's under no obligation to do so according to Ford's schedule.

I understand where you are coming from, and you make good points, but this reporter was completely unprofessional and his credibility is paper thin.

This reporter has won national awards for his reporting and was conducting a routine preliminary investigation. The only person who acted unreasonably or unprofessionally is the Mayor. He doesn't get to decide who is on TRCA land or demand that they do it at his convenience.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on May 05, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
Fair enough.

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on May 05, 2012, 01:25:16 PM
It's absolutely true that the Toronto Star has a bit of a vendetta against Ford.  They write a lot of attacking articles, they intentionally use "bad" photos of the Mayor, and they pretty much disagree on every one of his decisions.  It started before he "banned" them from interviews but the justification for refusing to be interviewed by one of the two major Toronto papers was questionable by the Mayor in the first place.

I think what you have on the other side though is a Mayor who has been equally vindictive with his "enemies".  And I use enemies in quotations because it seems like anyone who doesn't agree to everything that he says, is deemed to be an enemy.  Guys who voted with him the majority of the time were ridiculed and threatened for not voting for Subways.  The Toronto Medical officer was threatened and had his professional abilities called into question for an 'anti-car' statement. 
And thestar was banned for writing anti-Ford pieces. 

I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that Ford recognized who was outside, knew he was a part of the Toronto Star and went on the agressive knowing that it was going to turn into a he-said-she-said argument.  Those kinds of arguments tend to not sway either side.  The people who like Ford/don't like the stance of the star are going to side with the Mayor, and those that don't like Ford are going to side with the paper.

I think there are some legitimate concerns that come out of these repeated encounters however.  When Mary Walsh did that stupid Xena Warrior Princess thing earlier in the year, Ford ran inside and called the police a million times.   But when a person is spying over his fence after 7PM he suddenly runs out to confront the person (unarmed and without calling the police?)  That seems highly suspicious to me when someone acts significantly different under somewhat similar circumstances. 

I don't like Rob Ford mostly for how he goes about his business, but I also don't really care for his policies so I freely admit my biases against him.  But I really don't care for the Toronto Star either.  I find them to be very much a shill piece paper that barely manages to keep its head above the Toronto level of quality. 

Both sides are very guilty of engaging is a childish peeing contest.  We should expect WAY more impartial journalistic integrity from the Star, but I find it downright scary that this kind of character is in charge of the kind of budget/responsibilities of the city of Toronto and beyond that, how it reflects on Ontario and Canada as a whole (you don't have to look too far back to find a good number of international people who think Toronto is the capital of Canada).
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 05, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that Ford recognized who was outside, knew he was a part of the Toronto Star and went on the agressive knowing that it was going to turn into a he-said-she-said argument.

Ford himself has said that he recognized Dale.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: L K on May 05, 2012, 04:50:32 PM
I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that Ford recognized who was outside, knew he was a part of the Toronto Star and went on the agressive knowing that it was going to turn into a he-said-she-said argument.

Ford himself has said that he recognized Dale.

I had seen that too.  I'm taking it the step further and saying that by knowing who it was, he acted inappropriately.  I feel like he would have acted differently if he knew who the individual was, but that the individual wasn't a member of the Toronto Star.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Tigger on May 05, 2012, 05:43:04 PM
A further note to this...

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If the executive committee votes then to sell the land to Ford, the public will have to be consulted. The issue will then also go to a meeting of the TRCA at large for a final vote.

Staff members said Friday that they can't ever recall the agency selling parkland to a private homeowner based on security concerns.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/05/04/rob-ford-trca-land659.html?cmp=rss%26cmp=AFC-I78V04166919

So the public will be consulted should the deal go ahead, fairly significant interest there.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Spare Change on May 06, 2012, 12:01:43 AM
I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that Ford recognized who was outside, knew he was a part of the Toronto Star and went on the agressive knowing that it was going to turn into a he-said-she-said argument.

Ford himself has said that he recognized Dale.

To be fair, he said he didn't know who it was until he approached, then when he got close he recognized him.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Wendel's Fist on May 06, 2012, 03:26:35 AM
I think this whole Ford issue could easily be resolved with lingerie football.

If it has to go to overtime, then so be it.

You really can't put a time limit on the truth.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on May 09, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
Found out that I passed all my courses I took this past winter at Red River College so I am now a level 3 power electrician apprentice :-D. I have also recently obtained journeyman status as a Station Operator tech!!

Another year or two and I will be a journeyman Power Electrician as well :-D
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Post by: Bullfrog on May 09, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
hey, congrats, that's great.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on May 10, 2012, 06:56:35 AM
Yes. Congrats to you, sir.!
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Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on May 11, 2012, 04:56:36 PM
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Post by: Potvin29 on May 14, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
Sometimes when I'm bored I like to read the comments section of the Globe & Mail to be thoroughly entertained.  Reading the comments now about their decision to go to pay subscriptions online.  Here's a summary:

-You lost me when you endorsed Harper.  Right wing propaganda rag.
-Like I'd pay for your left-wing rag with your left-wing writers.
-Nazi comparison
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Post by: Ronco on May 22, 2012, 11:01:06 PM
Hey!  How the hell is everyone?

Just had a major family reunion which went well.

It's the summer. Going to get my Guts pushed up into my mouth at CDA's Wonderland on the Sunday!
Wish me luck.

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Post by: Darryl on May 22, 2012, 11:05:37 PM
Hey!  How the hell is everyone?

Just had a major family reunion which went well.

It's the summer. Going to get my Guts pushed up into my mouth at CDA's Wonderland on the Sunday!
Wish me luck.

Good to hear from ya Ronco. Remember if you throw up at the top of the loop beware the bottom of the loop.
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Post by: Ronco on May 22, 2012, 11:13:18 PM
It's the G Forceeeee...............Baby Whoooo Hooooo!
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Post by: Rick Couchman on May 23, 2012, 09:02:11 AM
Google.com today.  Their Google Doodle is outstanding.  They are celebrating the birthdate of Robert Moog, the inventor of the Moog synthesizer.  You can even record with it...
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Post by: AlmosGirl on May 23, 2012, 09:47:52 AM
Hey Ronco, nice to hear from you.  Have fun at Wonderland, no roller coasters for me.  Don't care for heights!

We're just busy as usual with everything that comes with 3 kids and work.  But life is fairly good.
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Post by: Sarge on May 24, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
Seems every 5th tweet from 680 news for like the last two months is about a pedestrian being struck in the 416. Just what the hell is going on down there?
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Post by: Rick Couchman on May 24, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
Seems every 5th tweet from 680 news for like the last two months is about a pedestrian being struck in the 416. Just what the hell is going on down there?

It's a sport. 

Actually, in all honesty, several women in the Cambridge area of the 401 have purposely walked out in front of big trucks when standing at the side of the 401.  Their suicide acts will last in the hearts and minds of the truckers who hit them forever.  I've went through suicidal periods in the past year, but each time I've come close to the act I can't stop thinking how the act will affect others, especially my kids...
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Post by: Sarge on May 24, 2012, 04:10:40 PM
Jesus. I hadn't even considered that. I was just thinking bad drivers.  :-\ Anyway, I'm glad you seem to be in a better head space these days, Rick and yeah, your kids need you.

I'm curious though why so many incidents of late.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Rick Couchman on May 24, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
Seems every 5th tweet from 680 news for like the last two months is about a pedestrian being struck in the 416. Just what the hell is going on down there?

It's a sport. 

Actually, in all honesty, several women in the Cambridge area of the 401 have purposely walked out in front of big trucks when standing at the side of the 401.  Their suicide acts will last in the hearts and minds of the truckers who hit them forever.  I've went through suicidal periods in the past year, but each time I've come close to the act I can't stop thinking how the act will affect others, especially my kids...

Thanks Sarge.  Appreciated.  In the Cambridge ones, I can only assume copycat acts.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Peter D. on May 25, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
I have no use for the stock market because a big part of me believes it's one big scam, but I find this whole Facebook IPO intriguing.  Is it wrong of me to take some weird pleasure in seeing the stock price taking a hit and hope it drops like a rock?
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Post by: Sarge on May 31, 2012, 07:04:32 AM
Any bankers (or gypsys) out there?. It's mortgage renewal time. Rates are rather low right now thank God so I get lucky with the timing and with that, I'm certain I'll go with a fixed rather than a variable. My question is; 5 years @ 3.69 or 7 years @ 3.9?
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Post by: Bullfrog on May 31, 2012, 07:17:42 AM
I'd say shop around and see if you can get even better.
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Post by: leafsjunkie on May 31, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
Any bankers (or gypsys) out there?. It's mortgage renewal time. Rates are rather low right now thank God so I get lucky with the timing and with that, I'm certain I'll go with a fixed rather than a variable. My question is; 5 years @ 3.69 or 7 years @ 3.9?

Why pay all that interest now? Get a variable rate, you can then lock in if rates go up. I got my variable rate @ 2.25% instead of fixed @ 3.75%, that's a whole lot of interest savings and I can lock into a fixed anytime I want, if/when rates go up.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on May 31, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?
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Post by: Bates on May 31, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Sarge I am no expert but I would doubt with today's economic uncertainty you would see a rate increase of more tham 1% at any time in the forseeable future???  So even if you see an increase you should still have time to react and lock in before it goes too high.  The benefit of course is that your mortgage should always be higher in the present than in the future so a lower rate now should benefit you more than a rate increase will hurt in the future.
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Post by: Sarge on May 31, 2012, 10:43:05 AM
Makes sense.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on May 31, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
Thanks guys!

So I was in a car accident last August, ended up with a neck/shoulder injury, MPI (car insurance) only covered 24 physio appts, those are over now so I have to go back to my Dr and get looked at and determine what the next step is. This is almost a year later and I am still having issues with neck and shoulder pain :/ Hopefully something can be done and correct this soon.

I was in a car accident last January (2011) as well and had the same issue but after a few months of Physio, I was back to normal.
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Post by: leafsjunkie on May 31, 2012, 12:33:35 PM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?

You can negotiate rates, when I spoke with my mortgage specialist, I said that same thing when she said I can lock in anytime and I was like, yeah, then I get locked in at like 6% or something dumb, she said no, I should just watch the rates and if they go up she would give me the fixed rate before it goes up (this was a year ago, so I think I would get locked in @ 3.85 or something, even if they went to say, 4.5%, if I decided to lock in)

The interest savings is huge, I'm paying $430 bi-weekly for my mortgage, if it was fixed it was going to be something like $580 bi-weekly. That's a no brainer to save that much money. Plus you can always contribute more to your mortgage bi-weekly, so if you are worried about rates, get the variable and set up an option (I can do it via internet banking, not sure who you bank/mortgage with but I'm sure they have that option) where I can pay $100 - $430 more per bi-weekly payment without any penalties, that would go against the interest, paying off the interest faster.

Banks are the biggest rip offs, nickle and dime all of us for EVERYTHING, then record massive profits (like TD bank had over a billion in profit or something the first quarter of 2012, like WTF), so do what ever you can to keep your hard earned money in your pocket, not theirs.
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Post by: Sarge on May 31, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
You know what? Eff it. I'm just going to lock in for 1 year on a fixed closed @ 3.1%. I know what my payment for certain for the next year and I'll deal with it again a year from now.
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Post by: Zee on May 31, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?

I'm no expert either but wasn't there a study done which showed from like 1950 - present day variable rate mortgages beat out fixed like 90% of the time?  I'd echo other comments already made on here, with the constant economic uncertainty (not just in Canada but we react to the global market too), what are the chances of the Bank of Canada hiking rates significantly in a quick time period?  We got a nice variable rate (prime - 0.8 ) and we're laughing it up now.
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Post by: Corn Flake on May 31, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?

Rates won't be any higher in a year than they are today.  I would bet my house on that (I did... sort of.)  Stay variable for now.

There is no way the prime rate will end up back at 5+% any time in the foreseeable future. And certainly not something you wouldn't notice if it was creeping in that direction.  At best, we will start to see the prime rate inch up by .25% per quarter and I doubt that starts to happen in the next year with the economic issues going on and that inflation is under control in Canada.
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Post by: Corn Flake on May 31, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?

I'm no expert either but wasn't there a study done which showed from like 1950 - present day variable rate mortgages beat out fixed like 90% of the time?  I'd echo other comments already made on here, with the constant economic uncertainty (not just in Canada but we react to the global market too), what are the chances of the Bank of Canada hiking rates significantly in a quick time period?  We got a nice variable rate (prime - 0.8 ) and we're laughing it up now.

That is a fantastic rate, and yeah you are sitting pretty on that for at least a couple of years.  I had prime - 0.9 until last year when we moved and took on a bigger mortgage so now I'm at prime -0.2.

I have done four new mortgage deals in the past year for various investment properties and the best deal I have seen out there right now is on a 2-year fixed for 2.55%  That's what I would go with right now if I was refinancing my own home and not planning on going anywhere any time soon.  After those 2 years, the prime minus X% deals will start getting better again.

Sarge the BIG problem with those 5-7-10 year mortgages are if you ever want to break them, the penalties will be gigantic.  Interest rate differential calculations on fixed rate mortgages are killer, never mind the super long term ones.

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Post by: Zee on May 31, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
Where will the rates be in a year or two though?

Edit: Sorry, you're saying you can flip to a fixed when they go up?... and if so, what if they go back up to 5+% and you don't catch it in time?

I'm no expert either but wasn't there a study done which showed from like 1950 - present day variable rate mortgages beat out fixed like 90% of the time?  I'd echo other comments already made on here, with the constant economic uncertainty (not just in Canada but we react to the global market too), what are the chances of the Bank of Canada hiking rates significantly in a quick time period?  We got a nice variable rate (prime - 0.8 ) and we're laughing it up now.

That is a fantastic rate, and yeah you are sitting pretty on that for at least a couple of years.  I had prime - 0.9 until last year when we moved and took on a bigger mortgage so now I'm at prime -0.2.

I have done four new mortgage deals in the past year for various investment properties and the best deal I have seen out there right now is on a 2-year fixed for 2.55%  That's what I would go with right now if I was refinancing my own home and not planning on going anywhere any time soon.  After those 2 years, the prime minus X% deals will start getting better again.

Sarge the BIG problem with those 5-7-10 year mortgages are if you ever want to break them, the penalties will be gigantic.  Interest rate differential calculations on fixed rate mortgages are killer, never mind the super long term ones.

Yeah we're pretty happy.  If rates stay near what they are now, we'll pay off the house in the next 6 years.  :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on June 01, 2012, 02:52:36 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!
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Post by: Rick Couchman on June 01, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

Don't have any tips as I never tried smoking, but my hat's off to you for quitting - even if today is Day 1.  You can do it - we're cheering for you!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on June 01, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
I know it's not quite the same, but I used to chew tobacco. I had a tough time quitting but I've been off it for about a year now. I found that chewing gum and eating sunflower seeds whenever i had a craving helped me with fighting the oral fixation. I found that the nicotine was the easier craving to fight.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 02, 2012, 10:06:22 PM
Pretty crazy what happened at the Eaton centre eh?

How very American of you.

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Post by: Sarge on June 02, 2012, 10:14:57 PM
Sad.
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Post by: Manson on June 02, 2012, 10:22:45 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

That would mean you smoke a pack a day.  Why were you shocked, wouldn't you know the price by now?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on June 02, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

I quit on my birthday in '09 after smoking for nearly 20 years. I had tried a bunch of things previously with no success and one day I just said eff it... I don't want to do this anymore and I'm stronger than my addiction and quit cold turkey. I was shocked how easy it was to finally quit once I knew I was for certain that was it. - I only had a few bad days really.

Just be honest with yourself. If you really want to quit, you will and you'll be shocked how easy it is. If you don't, don't waste your time on drugs and other snake oils. You'll likely be back to it.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 02, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

That would mean you smoke a pack a day.  Why were you shocked, wouldn't you know the price by now?

Perhaps he pays with his card and didn't particularly care how much they cost?

I've been going to Starbucks every morning for the past six months and I could not tell you how much a coffee at Starbucks is.
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Post by: seahawk on June 03, 2012, 01:44:05 AM
I've been going to Starbucks every morning for the past six months and I could not tell you how much a coffee at Starbucks is.

Grande coffee $2.26 It's my regular order so I keep seeing that amount of my gift card statement.   ;D
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Post by: AlmosGirl on June 04, 2012, 12:38:28 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

No tips.  I quit cold turkey 8 yrs ago and haven't looked back.  Now mind you, I was a 3 cigarettes a day smoker (evenings only), so, it was probably easier to quit and my kids were bugging me too, so that made it easier as well.

My gf quit 3 mths ago and she had the laser treatment done.  She was about a pack a day smoker but she's been smoke free for 3 mths.  Also, she was diagnosed with cancer just before Christmas, so, it was on her "to do" list.
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Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2012, 01:08:44 PM
Luka "Rocco" Magnotta and Christopher Husbands in a fight to the death Thunder Dome style?
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Post by: Madferret on June 04, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
$17 for a pack of smokes?!
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Post by: Corn Flake on June 04, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

I quit on my birthday in '09 after smoking for nearly 20 years. I had tried a bunch of things previously with no success and one day I just said eff it... I don't want to do this anymore and I'm stronger than my addiction and quit cold turkey. I was shocked how easy it was to finally quit once I knew I was for certain that was it. - I only had a few bad days really.

Just be honest with yourself. If you really want to quit, you will and you'll be shocked how easy it is. If you don't, don't waste your time on drugs and other snake oils. You'll likely be back to it.

+1.

I quit 3 years ago and it was the same for me.. when you are ready to quit and you truly WANT to quit, it isn't that difficult.  I smoked a 1/2 pack a day for a decade and couldn't get within 10 feet of a coffee or a beer without instantly wanting a smoke.  Now, it doesn't bother me and I can be around smokers, etc etc etc.  All fine.

If you sit around thinking constantly about "giving up" something you wish you were still doing, you will fail.   You have to get to the place between your ears where finally breaking the habit makes you feel happy to be free of a terrible killer addiction.

$17.75.. must be in BC?
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Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
Yesterday I went and bought a pack of smokes, they were $17.75, I was shocked but paid anyways, then when I got to work I started thinking that is a lot of money and I refuse to pay that much for a pack, I just smoked my last one and am going to attempt to quit now, I have the nicorette quick mist spray which I have used on occasion and seemed to help out. I quit last year for a few weeks, hoping this is my last attempt to kick the habit! I just quickly figured out how much I would save a month if I were to quit at this current price for a pack, $540 a month :|

Tips are welcome!

I quit on my birthday in '09 after smoking for nearly 20 years. I had tried a bunch of things previously with no success and one day I just said eff it... I don't want to do this anymore and I'm stronger than my addiction and quit cold turkey. I was shocked how easy it was to finally quit once I knew I was for certain that was it. - I only had a few bad days really.

Just be honest with yourself. If you really want to quit, you will and you'll be shocked how easy it is. If you don't, don't waste your time on drugs and other snake oils. You'll likely be back to it.

+1.

I quit 3 years ago and it was the same for me.. when you are ready to quit and you truly WANT to quit, it isn't that difficult.  I smoked a 1/2 pack a day for a decade and couldn't get within 10 feet of a coffee or a beer without instantly wanting a smoke.  Now, it doesn't bother me and I can be around smokers, etc etc etc.  All fine.

If you sit around thinking constantly about "giving up" something you wish you were still doing, you will fail.   You have to get to the place between your ears where finally breaking the habit makes you feel happy to be free of a terrible killer addiction.

$17.75.. must be in BC?

Scary though that almost three years later, I still think about it from time to time. I could easily pick up a smoke right now. It's behind me but it left it's mark. Awful, awful things those things are.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 04, 2012, 02:11:15 PM

I didn't really smoke cigarettes so I don't know the specifics of smoking them but I was a smoker for years and I have to echo Sarge and CF. Ultimately the only thing that really worked for me was, to quote Norm MacDonald, the sheer tyranny of will. Once I got to the point where the thought of smoking was less "man, that'd hit the spot" and more "that's really not good for me" it wasn't too hard to quit.

Even now I occasionally smoke on nights where I get a good drink on but I'm able to keep it at that.
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Post by: Deebo on June 04, 2012, 02:13:12 PM

I didn't really smoke cigarettes so I don't know the specifics of smoking them but I was a smoker for years

Pipes? Cigars? something other than tobacco?
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 04, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
Pipes? Cigars? something other than tobacco?

Pipes.
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Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2012, 02:23:22 PM
Pipes? Cigars? something other than tobacco?

Pipes.

Still not really answering Deebo's last question there.  ;)
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 04, 2012, 02:25:37 PM
Still not really answering Deebo's last question there.  ;)

I was just talking about the tobacco. Quitting smoking pot was even easier. Two steps: move out of a dorm and be really lazy.
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Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
I haven't touched a joint in 9 months. No particular reason for that really. Could be laziness I suppose. Either way, I've never had an addiction to it.
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Post by: Corn Flake on June 04, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
Scary though that almost three years later, I still think about it from time to time. I could easily pick up a smoke right now. It's behind me but it left it's mark. Awful, awful things those things are.

Do you mean you get the thought in your head or the actual physical craving?

For me, its the former only.  I don't feel the physical pang at all but the thought crosses the mind all the time. Usually in circumstances where I used to always have a smoke going.  But it's just a flash of a thought... and then I just shrug it off and keep on going.  And if it lasts any more than a flash, I just remind myself how long it took to quit and going through all of that again would be insane. 

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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 04, 2012, 02:39:52 PM

Wrong thread.
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Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2012, 03:01:15 PM
Scary though that almost three years later, I still think about it from time to time. I could easily pick up a smoke right now. It's behind me but it left it's mark. Awful, awful things those things are.

Do you mean you get the thought in your head or the actual physical craving?

For me, its the former only.  I don't feel the physical pang at all but the thought crosses the mind all the time. Usually in circumstances where I used to always have a smoke going.  But it's just a flash of a thought... and then I just shrug it off and keep on going.  And if it lasts any more than a flash, I just remind myself how long it took to quit and going through all of that again would be insane.

I can't put my finger on it. Is my body craving that draw or is it my brain simply remembering what it felt like? Or both? Do recovering addicts of all drugs think about that stuff after almost 3 years away from it? I don't know, I think about stuff like this on long drives, etc. and like you, I remind myself how long it took one part of my brain to convince the other that smoking was for dummies.       
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Post by: Corn Flake on June 04, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
Scary though that almost three years later, I still think about it from time to time. I could easily pick up a smoke right now. It's behind me but it left it's mark. Awful, awful things those things are.

Do you mean you get the thought in your head or the actual physical craving?

For me, its the former only.  I don't feel the physical pang at all but the thought crosses the mind all the time. Usually in circumstances where I used to always have a smoke going.  But it's just a flash of a thought... and then I just shrug it off and keep on going.  And if it lasts any more than a flash, I just remind myself how long it took to quit and going through all of that again would be insane.

I can't put my finger on it. Is my body craving that draw or is it my brain simply remembering what it felt like? Or both? Do recovering addicts of all drugs think about that stuff after almost 3 years away from it? I don't know, I think about stuff like this on long drives, etc. and like you, I remind myself how long it took one part of my brain to convince the other that smoking was for dummies.     

I think with smoking and probably all other addictions, it's a part of life.  I know alcoholics talk about how it's a daily thing for them and it never really goes away.

It has to be in your brain. The chemical addiction was broken a long, long time ago. 30 days until 100% of the last tiny bit of nicotine is out of your body.
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Post by: Tigger on June 05, 2012, 12:14:21 AM
My daughters younger step sister ( 7 years old ) has been invited to represent Canada at an international martial arts tourney, pretty amazing little gal.
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Post by: Rick Couchman on June 05, 2012, 08:12:41 AM
My daughters younger step sister ( 7 years old ) has been invited to represent Canada at an international martial arts tourney, pretty amazing little gal.

That's VERY cool.  She'll never for get that moment.
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Post by: Sarge on June 05, 2012, 08:21:00 AM
In Canada or does she get to travel? Either way, yeah - very cool.
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Post by: Tigger on June 05, 2012, 07:02:10 PM
The tournament is in Costa Rica I think. Yeah, it's going to be something she never forgets. She practices Shaolin crane style kung fu, she's like a little dancer and ass kicker all at the same time.

We're pretty proud of her, this is only her second year so far, she's a total natural.
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Post by: Madferret on June 10, 2012, 07:59:39 AM
Anyone stand in line for 3 days to get a pair of the Air Yeezy 2's? Dudgee?
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Post by: Sarge on June 17, 2012, 09:09:36 AM
Double shift on Father's Day  >:( but to all you other Dads out there, have a good one!
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on June 17, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
Double shift on Father's Day  >:( but to all you other Dads out there, have a good one!

Cheers!
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Post by: Zee on June 17, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
My traditional Fathers Day cigar has been as disappointing as Italy's Euro so far. :(
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 19, 2012, 07:41:42 PM
Looking forward to Cabo, only 15 days away!
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Post by: Deebo on June 22, 2012, 10:02:08 PM
Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of his charges.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 22, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of his charges.

Good. Here's hoping he spends the rest of his life in jail.
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Post by: Deebo on June 22, 2012, 10:08:34 PM
Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of his charges.

Good. Here's hoping he spends the rest of his life in jail.

There were originally 51 charges, 3 were dropped and it appears he was accquitted of 3.

I heard the 51 charges carried a maximum sentence of 460 years, so we shouldn't have to worry about him getting out. He'll almost certainly die in jail. I'd imagine the years he has reamaining will be quite unpleasant.
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Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 23, 2012, 12:33:04 AM
Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of his charges.

Good. Here's hoping he spends the rest of his life in jail.

There were originally 51 charges, 3 were dropped and it appears he was accquitted of 3.

I heard the 51 charges carried a maximum sentence of 460 years, so we shouldn't have to worry about him getting out. He'll almost certainly die in jail. I'd imagine the years he has reamaining will be quite unpleasant.


Thanks goodness!  About time!
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Post by: Potvin29 on June 23, 2012, 04:21:47 AM
He won't be treated well in prison.
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Post by: Madferret on June 24, 2012, 09:55:28 AM
Heading camping for 5 days today - hope the weather cooperates. Yeehaw!
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Post by: Sucker Punch on June 24, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
People who go camping are crazy.

You work hard, every day of your life, to afford a house, electricity, and the option to get pizza delivered right to your doorstep.   Thousands of years of human development have allowed us the privilege of not having to go camping, and you're throwing it all away.

Why don't you go get infected with the bubonic plague or smallpox if you enjoy putting yourself through suffering that is no longer necessary in our society?
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Post by: Madferret on June 24, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
People who go camping are crazy.

You work hard, every day of your life, to afford a house, electricity, and the option to get pizza delivered right to your doorstep.   Thousands of years of human development have allowed us the privilege of not having to go camping, and you're throwing it all away.

Why don't you go get infected with the bubonic plague or smallpox if you enjoy putting yourself through suffering that is no longer necessary in our society?

Call me crazy but I still love camping.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on June 24, 2012, 11:26:47 AM
I like putting leeches on my balls to cure impotence and drilling holes in my skull to ease headaches.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 24, 2012, 11:32:21 AM
I like putting leeches on my balls to cure impotence and drilling holes in my skull to ease headaches.

I'm beginning to think someone lied to you about what camping is.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on June 24, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
I like putting leeches on my balls to cure impotence and drilling holes in my skull to ease headaches.

I'm beginning to think someone lied to you about what camping is.

The worst part is the sore bum you always wake up with.
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Post by: Heroic Shrimp on June 24, 2012, 11:51:12 AM
People who go camping are crazy.

You work hard, every day of your life, to afford a house, electricity, and the option to get pizza delivered right to your doorstep.   Thousands of years of human development have allowed us the privilege of not having to go camping, and you're throwing it all away.

Why don't you go get infected with the bubonic plague or smallpox if you enjoy putting yourself through suffering that is no longer necessary in our society?

You'll enjoy Jim Gaffigan on camping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdqIpYhM6PE
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Post by: Potvin29 on June 24, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
People who go camping are crazy.

You work hard, every day of your life, to afford a house, electricity, and the option to get pizza delivered right to your doorstep.   Thousands of years of human development have allowed us the privilege of not having to go camping, and you're throwing it all away.

Why don't you go get infected with the bubonic plague or smallpox if you enjoy putting yourself through suffering that is no longer necessary in our society?

Call me crazy but I still love camping.

I love it.  Can't wait to do some more backpacking hikes when I get home.  Some gorgeous hikes/camping spots near the Sault.

Going a bit stir-crazy with not having time to do it here.
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Post by: Sarge on June 24, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Hey, Cannonball Run II is on!
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Post by: Peter D. on June 25, 2012, 03:13:09 PM
Cottages.  I've been a kick lately where I eventually want to own one.

Is it worth it?  Or is renting the way to go?
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 25, 2012, 03:15:10 PM
Cottages.  I've been a kick lately where I eventually want to own one.

Is it worth it?  Or is renting the way to go?

I really enjoy mine but I inherited it so I can't speak to it financially.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on June 25, 2012, 03:30:03 PM
Depends how often you are going to use it Peter, you have to factor in that as well as maintaining it, the cost of maintenance can be high if you don't use it often, age of the cottage, etc.

If you're only going to use it once in a while, renting may be the way to go, if you're going to be out there quite often, than owning will be a better option.

Try figure out how many times a year you would be able to, and would use the cottage and then compare that with how much a year you would pay to rent a cottage that many times. Compare and see what is most cost effective.

Owning one would be nice, as you can just up and goto it when you want, but if renting would be cheaper, it would make more sense to rent.
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Post by: Sarge on June 25, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
I've been thinking of starting with the just the property and a simple trailer. Still out of reach for me at this point though but that's one of my dreams right now. Fortunately, I have lots of family with their own so I still get to enjoy that life from time to time.
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Post by: Peter D. on June 25, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
You pretty much nailed what I've heard and read regarding the cottage debate, Ryan.  As you and Nik allude to, it's the financial aspect of upkeep and the like that is a major deciding factor.

I've never been one of a cottage before, but hearing my good friends' and some family members' stories about cottages, it makes me envious and long for one.  Now with kids, it seems like a place where you can make some pretty good family memories.  Also, it'd be a nice escape where a couple weekends of the month you can just unwind away from it all, as well as a good vacation spot.

Renting a cottage would be easier and would satisfy the crave so to speak, but a part of me thinks that owning one would provide a longer lasting effect of enjoyment.
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Post by: Madferret on June 25, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
The weather is lousy, the mosquitos are in numbers, but I'm still having a blast. (Yet to wake-up with a sore @ss too)
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Post by: Stebro on June 26, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Sweet got a new job after almost a year of hard work to get it done. It's only temporary but at least it's for a year.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 26, 2012, 04:47:02 PM
Sweet got a new job after almost a year of hard work to get it done. It's only temporary but at least it's for a year.
Congrats mate!
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Post by: Bender on June 26, 2012, 08:21:13 PM
Just started taking Wing Tsun style Kung Fu classes. Definitely fun/interesting and I've always wanted to learn a self defense system. If anyone's curious as to what it looks like a movie example would be Ip Man (great film!).
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Post by: No.92 on June 26, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Just started taking Wing Tsun style Kung Fu classes. Definitely fun/interesting and I've always wanted to learn a self defense system. If anyone's curious as to what it looks like a movie example would be Ip Man (great film!).

I liked both those Ip Man movies.  Are the more high level guys really fast in the class?

A lot less impressive, but I started taking swimming classes.  :(
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Post by: Bullfrog on June 26, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
A lot less impressive, but I started taking swimming classes.  :(

good for you. It's never too late!
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 26, 2012, 10:09:03 PM
Just started taking Wing Tsun style Kung Fu classes. Definitely fun/interesting and I've always wanted to learn a self defense system. If anyone's curious as to what it looks like a movie example would be Ip Man (great film!).

Good for you sir, I hope you are having a lot of fun.  Martial arts are great(12 year veteran here) it's great for building self confidence and it really flows over into other parts of your life. I would caution against actually using Kung Fu in an actual self defence type situation though, look at it as more of just a sport if possible. In terms of actually learning to fight, kickboxing, muay thai and at least some grappling will help. Please note I don't practice any of these styles, so I'm not coming at your from a my style is better than yours position. Just passing on some hopefully useful information.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on June 26, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
Good for you sir, I hope you are having a lot of fun.  Martial arts are great(12 year veteran here) it's great for building self confidence and it really flows over into other parts of your life. I would caution against actually using Kung Fu in an actual self defence type situation though, look at it as more of just a sport if possible. In terms of actually learning to fight, kickboxing, muay thai and at least some grappling will help. Please note I don't practice any of these styles, so I'm not coming at your from a my style is better than yours position. Just passing on some hopefully useful information.

Aren't you stateside these days? Any legit American knows that the only effective martial art for self-defence is Mossberg-Fu.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 26, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Fortunately I'm far from a legit American.   

Being Canadian/British is much more fun.

I heard you're a master in Déjà-fu though. ;)

EDIT: I do visit the gun range every few months for fun though.
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Post by: Bender on June 26, 2012, 10:47:56 PM
Just started taking Wing Tsun style Kung Fu classes. Definitely fun/interesting and I've always wanted to learn a self defense system. If anyone's curious as to what it looks like a movie example would be Ip Man (great film!).

Good for you sir, I hope you are having a lot of fun.  Martial arts are great(12 year veteran here) it's great for building self confidence and it really flows over into other parts of your life. I would caution against actually using Kung Fu in an actual self defence type situation though, look at it as more of just a sport if possible. In terms of actually learning to fight, kickboxing, muay thai and at least some grappling will help. Please note I don't practice any of these styles, so I'm not coming at your from a my style is better than yours position. Just passing on some hopefully useful information.

I actually chose Wing Tsun after a long long search, and really came down to WT or Krav Maga. This style of Kung Fu's basis is mostly in self defense that can actually work. Its why I didn't choose something like Tae Kwon Do for example. Its also designed for a smaller opponent such as myself to take on a larger opponent by valuing speed and accuracy over raw strength. Its also used for FBI Hostage Rescue Team and GSG-9.

WT is not about crane stances or any of that. It's based on physics and basic principles to protect yourself - attacking and blocking simultaneously, economy of motion, simple misdirection (instead of outright blocking). I can ask my Sifu about using it in realistic situations and he can deconstruct precisely why we react a certain way against a parallel punch vs. a diagonal punch and show which method of blocking leaves you exposed and which one doesn't.

I understand where you're coming from, but in my eyes Muay Thai is the sexy martial art right now thanks to MMA and UFC. It's got great strength if used correctly but it's not very well suited to me, and in my own personal view, I don't view it as any more effective than WT in a self defense situation. I wouldn't be taking WT unless I felt very confident that it made sense as a realistic self-defense system (esp seeing as it beat out Krav Maga for me - one of the renowned street fighting methods).
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 26, 2012, 11:18:21 PM
Good luck to you Bender. :)

I've heard some less than pleasant things about Wing Chun Kung Fu, it's branches like wing Tsun and their practical application.

Not knowing a ton about Wing Tsun specifically though, I shall defer to you and your better understanding.

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Post by: Bender on June 26, 2012, 11:37:36 PM
Good luck to you Bender. :)

I've heard some less than pleasant things about Wing Chun Kung Fu, it's branches like wing Tsun and their practical application.

Not knowing a ton about Wing Tsun specifically though, I shall defer to you and your better understanding.

Yeah, but tbh that can be said about anything. You do have to commit to one of the styles and this is the one I chose based on my physical attributes and you obviously inherit all the pros and cons of the system as well. But I'm not marrying WT as the only useful system though - that's not really the point. Somewhere down the line I will probably pick up another MA for fun and the point is this: Keep what is useful, discard what is not - I see a lot of usefulness in WT and many other MAs.
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Post by: Bender on June 26, 2012, 11:48:00 PM
Just started taking Wing Tsun style Kung Fu classes. Definitely fun/interesting and I've always wanted to learn a self defense system. If anyone's curious as to what it looks like a movie example would be Ip Man (great film!).

I liked both those Ip Man movies.  Are the more high level guys really fast in the class?

A lot less impressive, but I started taking swimming classes.  :(

The time slot I go to is a drop-in so I don't really come into contact with too many other high level guys, but my Sifu's got lightning hands. If a fight were to occur between himself and another guy on the street, unless the opponent knew how to defend against WT, he would overwhelm another fighter with just relentless punching/blocking.

http://www.realisticselfdefense.com/new_site/simpledocument.asp?readfile=video.htm&title=Video

Check the first video: Sifu Asad Chi Sau. There's also a video somewhere near the bottom where Bruce Lee demonstrates.

Quite a bit of what they show in Ip Man seems pretty accurate, but I can't really say to what degree. There were times where I thought Donnie Yen dropped the fighting stance before engaging which seemed odd to me, but I haven't been taking it very long so I can't really comment :P If you search up Wing Chun Leung in Youtube there's a 40m video showing Bruce Lee's old master outlining the basis of the style so if you re-watch Ip Man you'll probably be able to recognize the actual techniques :) It's also fun to search up Bruce Lee Wing Chun - I think there's a video of Enter the Dragon where he performs a whole series of moves in under 2 seconds.
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Post by: Bullfrog on June 27, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
That guy is definitely skilled, though I've never understood the hooking up and waving their arms around at the beginning thing. Seems like an odd training method to me.

What's the difference between Wing Chun and Wing Tsun?

I briefly studied ChangQuan Wushu (Long Fist) for about 1.5 years, but I struggled with it. I couldn't master the "softness" part of it. After studying Tae Kwon Do for many years, I was too used to fast, powerful, hard movements. Everything in ChangQuan is circular, extended, fluid. TKD is more about being able to smash through things quickly and accurately.

Not surprisingly, I'm a master of Froggy-style.  ;D Which is to say, mostly TKD with bits of Aikido, Wushu, and wrestling thrown-in.
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Post by: TML fan on June 28, 2012, 04:37:16 PM
Has anyone had somebody from Ontario Consumers come to your house and ask to look at your water heater?
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Post by: Sarge on June 28, 2012, 04:41:19 PM
Has anyone had somebody from Ontario Consumers come to your house and ask to look at your water heater?

Yes. I don't know if they were legit or not but I didn't care. I politely told them to hit the road before they finished what they had to say... If its a matter of life or death, I figure someone will mail me something... Which perhaps, you know, they might have considered doing in the first place.   
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on June 28, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Has anyone had somebody from Ontario Consumers come to your house and ask to look at your water heater?

They wouldn't just show up.  Ask for PICTURE ID.  I'd tell them to hit the road regardless, and to send you a letter.
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Post by: TML fan on June 28, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
Has anyone had somebody from Ontario Consumers come to your house and ask to look at your water heater?

Yes. I don't know if they were legit or not but I didn't care. I politely told them to hit the road before they finished what they had to say... If its a matter of life or death, I figure someone will mail me something... Which perhaps, you know, they might have considered doing in the first place.   

Thanks. I did the same, but less politely after the kid got mouthy.
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Post by: Darryl on June 28, 2012, 11:23:11 PM
Sweet got a new job after almost a year of hard work to get it done. It's only temporary but at least it's for a year.

Congrats bud.
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Post by: Bender on June 29, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
That guy is definitely skilled, though I've never understood the hooking up and waving their arms around at the beginning thing. Seems like an odd training method to me.

What's the difference between Wing Chun and Wing Tsun?

I briefly studied ChangQuan Wushu (Long Fist) for about 1.5 years, but I struggled with it. I couldn't master the "softness" part of it. After studying Tae Kwon Do for many years, I was too used to fast, powerful, hard movements. Everything in ChangQuan is circular, extended, fluid. TKD is more about being able to smash through things quickly and accurately.

Not surprisingly, I'm a master of Froggy-style.  ;D Which is to say, mostly TKD with bits of Aikido, Wushu, and wrestling thrown-in.

In regards to sticking hands, I haven't got that far yet, but I think it's the ability to basically instinctually feel one's way through a fight rather than rely on your eyes, which are naturally slower at receiving and responding to information. He basically felt his way through the fight, not relying on his eyes but touch and instinct. I think that's the reason for the training. He stated that none of the demonstrations they perform are pre-thought, everything is off the cuff to show a real response from the Sifu and student.

I'm still very new to it all, though, so I'll let Wikipedia explain Sticking Hands theory :)

"Chi Sao (Chinese 黐手, Cantonese chi1 sau², Mandarin chǐshǒu) or "sticking hands". Term for the principle, and drills used for the development of automatic reflexes upon contact and the idea of "sticking" to the opponent. In Wing Chun this is practiced through two practitioners maintaining contact with each other's forearms while executing techniques, thereby training each other to sense changes in body mechanics, pressure, momentum and "feel". This increased sensitivity gained from this drill helps a practitioner attack and counter an opponent's movements precisely, quickly and with the appropriate technique.

Chi Sao additionally refers to methods of rolling hands drills (Luk Sao). Luk Sao participants push and "roll" their forearms against each other in a single circle while trying to remain relaxed. The aim is to feel forces, test resistances and find defensive gaps. Other branches do a version of this where each of the arms roll in small separate circles. Luk Sao is most notably taught within the Pan Nam branches where both the larger rolling drills and the method where each of the arms roll in small separate circles are taught."

Wing Tsun is an offshoot of Wing Chun that was developed by one of Ip Man students Leung Ting. It keeps the main principles but is more oriented to practical self-defense. They also teach in a more practical method, kind of like school. You graduate from level one only once the Sify believes you have mastered the moves and techniques of the level. Also AFAIK it focuses more on anti-grappling but also focuses on ground fighting as a last resort.

That's really cool, you're sort of MMA style now :) Is that why you're called bullfrog? I'd love to learn a few systems eventually and take whatever is good from them, and eventually have a personal understanding of self-defense and martial arts.
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Post by: Bullfrog on June 29, 2012, 06:59:47 PM
The best part of learning different styles is that you don't get the snobby "my martial art is better than yours" attitude.

I'm Bullfrog because I've always had some mighty fine wine.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on June 30, 2012, 10:04:52 PM
I got put in my place the other day like never before.

Started a new job, working with physically/mentally disabled people.   We had a meet and greet the other day, just to introduce the new people to all the clients/parents.   There's one girl named Ashley, not sure what her diagnosis is, but she's mid 20s, about 4 feet tall, cute as a button, and loves men.   Any time she sees a dude, she'll yell "BOY!" and run to give them a hug.

There are two new dudes starting, me and one other guy.   At one point, someone who'd been there for a while asked her which of the new boys was her favourite.   To my chagrin, she picked the other guy.    My feelings hurt a little, I teased her about it, telling her I'm much nicer, and that the other guy is a jerk.

She paused for a moment, while her eyes filled with hate, then she pointed at me and screamed "THERE'S NO ROOSTER IN YOUR PANTS, FRIG OFF!" (but with the coarsest language you can imagine)

At which point I started laughing my ass off while her parents scolded her for cursing.   I've been yelled at and insulted plenty of times before, but never with such harshness and conviction.   To hear those words come out of this adorable little girl's mouth was a trip and a half.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 03, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Less than 12 hours now till I'm on a plane to Cabo.

I'm really looking forward to a week of luxurious relaxation.
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Post by: Sarge on July 03, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
Enjoy!
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 03, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
Enjoy!
Thanks Sarge, there is free wi-fi at the resort so hopefully I'll get to check in here from time to time and see some deals that the Leafs made.
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Post by: Madferret on July 03, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Less than 12 hours now till I'm on a plane to Cabo.

I'm really looking forward to a week of luxurious relaxation.

Nice one - enjoy dude
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 04, 2012, 05:59:12 AM
Thanks Madferret!

Have a good one yourself and the same to all the American posters celebrating the fourth today.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 04, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
Recieved a phone call this morning about a job I applied for a while ago, they called to ask if I was serious about my application for the job. I am not fully qualified for it, but the supervisor seems like he is getting ready to offer it to me and just needs to go through the process before he does so. Its a 2 trade job and I have one of the trades completed and half way through the other trade. He is going to get back to me and let me know whats going to happen.

The station is closer to Winnipeg by 300 kms, I would have to move to Winnipeg and work a modified work schedule, 8 days on and 6 off, I would live in a staff house at the station.

This isn't my ideal work location, but baby steps, anything getting me out of Gillam and closer to Winnipeg works for me, I would only be 8 hours away from Winnipeg which would be epic. *fingers crossed*
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Post by: Sarge on July 04, 2012, 11:59:32 AM
Good luck!
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Post by: Sarge on July 05, 2012, 04:17:54 PM
Need to start looking for a second job.  :( I work shift work full time but I need something I can kind of do on the side at my own pace that won't interfere with my regular gig. 8-12 hrs a week would probably do. - Any suggestions?   
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 05, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Something you could do from home maybe?

My wife gets a lot of job offers from her former school to assess future applicants either by phone or read entrance essays.

Perhaps your alma mater has something similar?

Failing that Craigslist has some online stuff usually.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 05, 2012, 05:09:06 PM
Need to start looking for a second job.  :( I work shift work full time but I need something I can kind of do on the side at my own pace that won't interfere with my regular gig. 8-12 hrs a week would probably do. - Any suggestions?

bagging groceries and/or collecting carts from the grocery store parking lot? Most stores need 'service clerks' :)
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Post by: Sarge on July 05, 2012, 05:12:01 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about maybe something from home... LHF, would I be able to pick my own hours at a grocery store? I don't have a regular 5 x 2 schedule  - Thanks for the tips.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 05, 2012, 05:15:46 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about maybe something from home... LHF, would I be able to pick my own hours at a grocery store? I don't have a regular 5 x 2 schedule  - Thanks for the tips.

Gigalo?
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 05, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
Webcam model, abusing yourself on cam for tips.  ;D
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Post by: Sarge on July 05, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
 ;D
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Post by: No.92 on July 05, 2012, 05:32:02 PM
Just curious as to how often posters on here meet?  I mean, I've seen threads on meet ups before, but I wonder if this is the norm?  I'm not looking to meet up with fellow posters as I live in California but was just curious.  However, I would be interested in some pickup games when I go home to visit (London & Toronto).  Do you guys do any of those sort of things?
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Post by: AvroArrow on July 05, 2012, 05:36:39 PM
Hey Sarge,

Think about something you buy a lot, and see about getting some part time work there...then, hopefully, you can get a discount. ;)
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Post by: Sarge on July 05, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
Groceries? Endless amount of friggin' groceries.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 05, 2012, 05:50:20 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about maybe something from home... LHF, would I be able to pick my own hours at a grocery store? I don't have a regular 5 x 2 schedule  - Thanks for the tips.

that's hard to say. We have a couple guys who are only available certain days/nights. Depends on the store and what their needs are. Our store, for example, has lots of students to do the evenings and the Saturdays and Sundays. Our current problem is that we only have 2 or 2 guys who can work during the day during the week. We have one retired gent who was originally hired to do those fill in shifts during the week..... trouble is, he's so damned good, we've made him a supervisor now :) so we're back to square one now and missing that one guy who can fill in the 'during the weekday' thing. Not every store has this problem though. My best advice, if this is the sort of route you wanna go, is to go into the store and find out, if they need anyone, if they can work around your shifts. (we call that 'the shift availability form' here)
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Post by: Sarge on July 05, 2012, 05:51:14 PM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Darryl on July 09, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
Anyone else has an issue with Google Chrome not having sound when watching Youtube videos?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 09, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Anyone else has an issue with Google Chrome not having sound when watching Youtube videos?

Which OS are you using?
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Post by: Darryl on July 09, 2012, 11:16:41 PM
Anyone else has an issue with Google Chrome not having sound when watching Youtube videos?

Which OS are you using?
Vista.  Issue isn't there in IE or Firefox.
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 10, 2012, 12:11:03 AM
Anyone else has an issue with Google Chrome not having sound when watching Youtube videos?

Which OS are you using?
Vista.  Issue isn't there in IE or Firefox.

I was having an issue with Chrome and youtube or any flash for that matter on Ubuntu.

Did you try updating flash or java?

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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 10, 2012, 01:05:42 AM
Anyone else has an issue with Google Chrome not having sound when watching Youtube videos?

Which OS are you using?
Vista.  Issue isn't there in IE or Firefox.

Had the same issue after updating flash, found the previous version and it fixed itself.
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Post by: Derk on July 10, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
Just curious as to how often posters on here meet?  I mean, I've seen threads on meet ups before, but I wonder if this is the norm?  I'm not looking to meet up with fellow posters as I live in California but was just curious.  However, I would be interested in some pickup games when I go home to visit (London & Toronto).  Do you guys do any of those sort of things?

Met a small group of posters at a bar in Waterloo once to watch a Leafs game, but that was it, and a long time ago when I was still a student (probably 10 years ago now).
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Post by: Darryl on July 10, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
Thanks guys tried that but still nothing. Apparently from what I've read flash is built right into chrome now. Guess I use IE for youtube until an update.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 10, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
Thanks guys tried that but still nothing. Apparently from what I've read flash is built right into chrome now. Guess I use IE for youtube until an update.
Try an older version of chrome perhaps?
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Post by: Darryl on July 12, 2012, 02:40:03 AM
Worth a shot. Thanks
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 12, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: No.92 on July 12, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nice congrats!
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 12, 2012, 05:06:16 PM
Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D

congrats to you I suppose :-) Though I'll miss the Gillam weather/polar bear stories :P
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Post by: Sarge on July 12, 2012, 05:52:07 PM
Congrats, man.
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Post by: The Red Polar Bear on July 12, 2012, 07:07:09 PM
Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D

THAT'S IT, BACK TO WINNIPEG!
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 13, 2012, 01:58:19 AM
Thanks everyone! :D

Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D

congrats to you I suppose :-) Though I'll miss the Gillam weather/polar bear stories :P

I will be able to visit the zoo and the new polar bear exhibit often now, I haven't been there once yet, it's been too hot out when I have been in Winnipeg for vacation this year to be able to goto the zoo :(

I will be working up north still, 300 kms North-West of Gillam, at the newest generating station in the province, only 1 of the 3 units are online right now, working at this station is 8 days on, 6 off, which is why I will be able to live in Winnipeg, so the weather stories will still be frequent :P


Recieved a call today about the job I applied for and was offered the position. Looks like I am moving to Winnipeg  ;D ;D ;D ;D

THAT'S IT, BACK TO WINNIPEG!

I laughed at this one and had to explain it to the gf, she has never watched the Simpsons before :|
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Post by: Rick Couchman on July 13, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
TEST
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Post by: Sarge on July 17, 2012, 03:42:04 PM
My new doctor is 10 years younger than I am and she's an "eleven." - Awkward!  8) :-[ :-\
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Post by: Rick Couchman on July 17, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
My new doctor is 10 years younger than I am and she's an "eleven." - Awkward!  8) :-[ :-\

Wait until the testicle grab and cough checkup.  I got $10 bucks on you getting wood!
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Post by: Sarge on July 17, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I'm actually very terrified of that... Also due for the 'ole prostate.  :-\
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Post by: Nik the Trik on July 18, 2012, 12:31:24 PM

I was hanging out with some people recently and I ran across a guy, perfectly fit and healthy adult male, who just seemed to have absolutely no physical perception of how to throw a baseball. Like, his arm got all bunched up and he sort of pushed it like a shot put. Amid the crap he was getting it came out that he'd just never learned how.

How is that even possible? I mean, I get that not everybody plays little league but to not even know the basic mechanics of how to throw a ball? Who grows up like that? Is soccer to blame?

Anyways, it fascinated me.
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Post by: No.92 on July 18, 2012, 01:23:16 PM

I was hanging out with some people recently and I ran across a guy, perfectly fit and healthy adult male, who just seemed to have absolutely no physical perception of how to throw a baseball. Like, his arm got all bunched up and he sort of pushed it like a shot put. Amid the crap he was getting it came out that he'd just never learned how.

How is that even possible? I mean, I get that not everybody plays little league but to not even know the basic mechanics of how to throw a ball? Who grows up like that? Is soccer to blame?

Anyways, it fascinated me.

Depends on the nationality.  I would have never played or even liked hockey if my friends didn't force me to play it one summer day back when I was a kid.  I was very resistant to it.  I only had eyes for baseball then.  And being a foreigner probably doesn't help with no athletic background from the culture.  So, I could see that happening, but growing up in Canada, it would seem to be a bit out of the ordinary I suppose.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on July 18, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
Depends on the nationality.

Does it though? Yeah, not every country plays baseball but most every country has hand grenades.
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Post by: No.92 on July 18, 2012, 05:47:53 PM
Depends on the nationality.

Does it though? Yeah, not every country plays baseball but most every country has hand grenades.

Right, because when I was a little kid and before I came to Canada, we would lob hand grenades for fun.  :P 

Even if they had access to hand grenades, have you seen how people throw those hand grenades in the movies?  They are more like hook shots then a baseball throw.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 18, 2012, 05:53:46 PM
I have a terrible throw, wildly inaccurate and weak.

I can kick a soccer ball over 100 yards pretty easily though.
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Post by: bustaheims on July 18, 2012, 06:10:08 PM
Depends on the nationality.

Does it though? Yeah, not every country plays baseball but most every country has hand grenades.

Or, you know, rocks.
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Post by: Bullfrog on July 19, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
Depends on the nationality.

Does it though? Yeah, not every country plays baseball but most every country has hand grenades.

Or, you know, rocks.

and little brothers.

and balls of sand.

and apples. juicy red apples.

and muffins.

All throwable.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 19, 2012, 10:45:19 AM
Nobody's mentioned coconuts yet...
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Post by: Stebro on July 19, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P
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Post by: Damian on July 19, 2012, 02:31:25 PM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

spew us a tune!  ;)
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Post by: Green Leaf on July 19, 2012, 03:29:44 PM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

spew us a tune!  ;)

Thats what semin said
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Post by: No.92 on July 19, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

Very cool.  I'd be interested to see what you come up with.  Share a youtube vid or whatever medium when you are done.

My wife and I, while not really good or anything, started taking vocal lessons just for the heck of it at the beginning of this year.  We love karaoke so that's one of the reasons why we did it.  No aspirations for going on American Idol or anything, but just to improve on our ability for singing between us and in front of friends.  So far we've seen a marked improvement in our vocal range and volume. Hopefully we continue to get better as there is a lot of room for improvement still.

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Post by: seahawk on July 19, 2012, 08:47:48 PM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

Eurovision?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on July 20, 2012, 02:30:29 AM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

spew us a tune!  ;)
Not interested in making a fool out of myself :P
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Post by: Stebro on July 20, 2012, 02:32:20 AM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

Very cool.  I'd be interested to see what you come up with.  Share a youtube vid or whatever medium when you are done.

My wife and I, while not really good or anything, started taking vocal lessons just for the heck of it at the beginning of this year.  We love karaoke so that's one of the reasons why we did it.  No aspirations for going on American Idol or anything, but just to improve on our ability for singing between us and in front of friends.  So far we've seen a marked improvement in our vocal range and volume. Hopefully we continue to get better as there is a lot of room for improvement still.
I will only be participating in the lyrics category as I can't sing or play any instrument any good. My problem with singing and why I don't want to do it is because I sound too nasal.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Stebro on July 20, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
i'm currently preparing for an international songwriting competition, fun fun fun :P

Eurovision?
I've been asked to help out some other people with that before, but I always say no. Eurovision is below my dignity :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 21, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
Moved into a new place yesterday, it is so exhausting moving everything, changing all your utilities etc.

UGH
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 22, 2012, 12:27:04 AM
Blah! Really stressed out lately, I have less than four weeks to find a place to buy, pack up my house, move 1100kms to my new house I have yet to find, so I can start my new job August 16th for 8 days, then start college for 10 weeks.

This would be a lot easier if I didn't have a cat, I could just pack up and move everything to,storage until I found a place.
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on July 22, 2012, 10:17:51 AM
Anyone know how seriously authorities take fire bans? I'm up in the South Bruce Peninsula area and there's been one in effect since early July and it doesn't look like it'll be ending anytime soon.
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Post by: riff raff on July 22, 2012, 12:32:07 PM
Anyone know how seriously authorities take fire bans? I'm up in the South Bruce Peninsula area and there's been one in effect since early July and it doesn't look like it'll be ending anytime soon.

There's usually a reason for them...like a high forest fire risk.
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Post by: moon111 on July 22, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Blah! Really stressed out lately, I have less than four weeks to find a place to buy, pack up my house, move 1100kms to my new house I have yet to find, so I can start my new job August 16th for 8 days, then start college for 10 weeks.

This would be a lot easier if I didn't have a cat, I could just pack up and move everything to,storage until I found a place.
I'd put the cat in storage.
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Post by: No.92 on July 23, 2012, 01:27:35 PM
Moved into a new place yesterday, it is so exhausting moving everything, changing all your utilities etc.

UGH

Just read that there was a shooting in Japantown.  Was it close to you?
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 23, 2012, 07:44:25 PM
Hadn't heard anything about it, moved to the Willow Glen area on Friday.

Oh and it was two blocks away from my old place.
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Post by: No.92 on July 23, 2012, 08:07:18 PM
Hadn't heard anything about it, moved to the Willow Glen area on Friday.

Oh and it was two blocks away from my old place.

Ah ok.  Closer or farther from work?
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 24, 2012, 04:56:57 AM
Around the same really, just in a different direction.
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Post by: Damian on July 25, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
The blatant disregard for the use of signals on a 400 series hwy... from the middle lane no  less... always brakes first? wtf people?
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Post by: Tigger on July 28, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
No jail time for disgraced ex-Mountie Monty Robinson (http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/no-jail-time-for-disgraced-ex-mountie-monty-robinson#scpti2)

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Disgraced former Mountie Benjamin (Monty) Robinson has been given a 12-month conditional sentence for obstruction of justice relating to a fatal collision with a motorcycle in Delta, B.C., in 2008.

The sentence means Robinson, 42, will not serve any time in jail. He will have to spend one month under house arrest and the rest of the time he will be under the supervision of a probation officer and subject to a curfew at night.

Justice Janice Dillon also ordered Robinson to write an apology to the family of Orion Hutchinson, who was killed in the crash, and pay a $1,000 fine to Victim Services.

At the sentencing hearing, Robinson never apologized or expressed remorse for leaving Hutchinson dead or dying on the road while he went home to drink.

But Dillon also noted that when she handed down the sentence she had to consider the fact Robinson was a first time offender, an alcoholic and an aboriginal man.

Mother upset by sentence

Outside the court, Hutchinson's mother Judith dismissed the ordered apology letter as "less than nothing" and denounced the sentence as no more than the sort of punishment a child might get for bad behaviour.

"That sentence just felt like he was just being grounded," said Hutchinson. "It doesn't feel like a sentence to me."

One month house arrest and 11 months with a curfew for 'obstruction of justice' in a drinking and driving related death? This for the man that ordered Robert Dziekanski be repeatedly tased in a BC airport, which ended in his death as well.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on July 28, 2012, 09:17:42 AM
No, you don't understand, Tigger.   Robinson was an alcoholic and an aboriginal man.    Its not his fault he killed someone.
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Post by: Tigger on July 28, 2012, 10:43:51 AM
No, you don't understand, Tigger.

Apparently not.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on July 28, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
No, you don't understand, Tigger.   Robinson was an alcoholic and an aboriginal man.    Its not his fault he killed someone.

I can't pretend that I've followed that case all that closely but you can't expect a guy to get punished for "killing someone" if what he gets convicted of is obstruction of justice.

This is a bit from the above article:

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An investigation by the B.C. Coroners Service concluded Hutchinson, who died at the scene, was also drinking alcohol before the crash and that the actions of both men contributed to the crash.

So there's a pretty good reason he wasn't tried for manslaughter or vehicular homicide. He was guilty of obstruction of justice, no need for quotation marks, and that's not usually something that carries the responsibilities and penalties of murder.
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Post by: Potvin29 on July 28, 2012, 11:41:12 AM
Did you read the reasons for the sentence?

The Crown itself asked for either 3-9 months jail time, or a conditional sentence of 12-18 months.  The Criminal Code of Canada stipulates that all available sanctions other than imprisonment should be considered for offenders if it is reasonable, and specific attention in this regard is to be had for aboriginal offenders.  The section of the Code that talks about this is designed to try and encourage judges to take a restorative approach to sentencing of aboriginal offenders, owing to their proportional over-representation in Canadian prisons.  Judges must consider the aboriginal person's unique/systemic/background factors that may have played a part in the offence.

It's important to recognize that this was not a trial for killing someone - this was a trial for obstruction of justice.  He was found to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (likely from the taser incident) and to be an alcoholic.  Continuing his treatment for this is another mitigating factor against imprisonment, as well as the fact he was a 1st time offender and at a low risk of recidivism.

Lastly, a conditional sentence like this is not like he just walks away.  Apart from the public shame he will continue to endure, it restricts his life severely.  There are a whole laundry list of restrictions on his life for the sentence, from a period of 24-hour house arrest, to curfew, to restricted movement, etc.

While the optics might at first blush appear bad, it is important to look at a sentence like this in the context of the Canadian criminal law system, in the context of precedent, and especially in this case, in the context of this being a trial for obstruction of justice not murder or manslaughter.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on July 28, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
It was the statement that the judge made about taking into consideration his ethnicity and alcohol abuse when determining a sentence that bugged me more than anything else.
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Post by: Potvin29 on July 28, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
It was the statement that the judge made about taking into consideration his ethnicity and alcohol abuse when determining a sentence that bugged me more than anything else.

Why?  She's required to do so by the Criminal Code, and having read a bit about the history and current status of aboriginals and aboriginal crime in Canada, it seems like a fairly reasonable consideration in sentencing.
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Post by: Sucker Punch on July 28, 2012, 12:03:40 PM
It was the statement that the judge made about taking into consideration his ethnicity and alcohol abuse when determining a sentence that bugged me more than anything else.

Why?  She's required to do so by the Criminal Code, and having read a bit about the history and current status of aboriginals and aboriginal crime in Canada, it seems like a fairly reasonable consideration in sentencing.

I understand that she has to do it, but I don't like it, and I don't understand why.

Could you enlighten me?   I don't know why the history/current status of his ethnicity, and his alcohol abuse should temper a criminal sentence.   

I can't speak to specifics in this case, but recently here in St. John's, a drunk aboriginal man randomly stabbed a young girl in the chest while she was walking to work.   His lawyer made similar statements about how the judge must consider his ethnicity and problems with alcohol.   What does the history of his people have to do with that?

I also don't know how much effect this consideration has.   If he was a sober white dude, would he get an extra week or an extra year?
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Post by: Potvin29 on July 28, 2012, 12:22:34 PM
I don't know how thorough of an explanation I can give because I'm not really qualified.  But from what I have read, the Criminal Code was amended in the 90s with section 718(2)(e) that was designed to afford more of a kind of 'restorative justice' to aboriginal offenders in order to better reflect historical aboriginal justice.  As I mentioned above, it is also there to help combat the over-representation of aboriginals in prisons.

Basically, when sentencing judges have to factor in the unique background and cultural factors that aboriginals face in Canada and which impact them.  The judge will then determine on the facts of the case/person if factors such as these are present, how much weight to give to them, and whether they should be mitigating factors in the sentence.

The court recently clarified this:

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"To be clear, courts must take judicial notice of such matters as the history of colonialism, displacement and residential schools and how that history continues to translate into lower educational attainment, lower incomes, higher unemployment, higher rates of substance abuse and suicide and, of course, higher levels of incarceration for Aboriginal Peoples," Justice Louis LeBel wrote for the majority.

"Failing to take these circumstances into account would violate the fundamental principle of sentencing."

...

Those Criminal Code provisions are not a "race-based discount on sentencing," LeBel wrote.

They are a "remedial provision designed to ameliorate the serious problem of overrepresentation of Aboriginal People in Canadian prisons and to encourage sentencing judges to have recourse to a restorative approach to sentencing."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2012/03/23/north-supreme-court-aboriginal.html

In terms of him being an alcoholic, well that factors into his decision-making process.  It doesn't absolve him of the crime, but it factors into the sentence that his decision-making processes were affected.

It's impossible for me to say what he would get if he were a 'sober, white dude.'  I imagine it would be a stiffer sentence.  If he were sober, then there would be no mitigating factor of having his decision-making affected.  The same sentencing principles still apply to everyone, aboriginals included, but the court now must also recognise that aboriginals in Canada face a decidedly different and more complicated past and present than other Canadians.  Having just done a report for school on the history of residential schools in Canada, and the fallout from that, I can certainly attest to this being true.  Aboriginals face many issues, both on and off-reserve, that studies have linked to past abuse - higher rates of suicide, alcohol and drug abuse, etc., are very real issues for them.

You asked what the history of aboriginals has to do with someone committing a crime today.  The past abuses and problems faced by aboriginals are certainly reflected in the present time.  Things that happened to previous generations will certainly filter through to the present generations.  It's not to say that all aboriginals face the same issues or have the same response to them, but I think the court is quite right to consider its potential impact upon an individual.

The whole point of the considerations for aboriginals is not to automatically reduce their sentences, but to try and work with the unique conditions of aboriginals sensitively, rather than continue to pack prisons with them.  This means that, in some cases, sentences other than prison time will be more appropriate to attempt to rehabilitate the individual.
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Post by: L K on July 28, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
I think it's pretty damn asinine to call driving drunk a mitigating factor.  If anything, it is an instigating factor.

The suicide/alcohol/drug abuse questions are certainly valid, but to hold it up on a racial/ethnic basis and not a circumstantial basis, well I just find that to be very difficult.  I might be incredibly biased from some of the stories my Dad used to come home with about court proceedings and some of the situations he was faced in with guns/knives directed at him during threats only to watch the individual get off under the Gladue court system (well it's predecessor to be exact). 

I think life history has to account for some things, but basing it entirely on a racial/ethnic background is kind of silly.  The Aboriginals weren't the only race that were mistreated, and while a lot needs to be done still to atone for these misdeeds, I really have a hard time seeing how this is going to solve it.

Especially when for the rest of the nation the criminal code was just made to be a whole lot more strict.
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Post by: Frank E on July 28, 2012, 05:08:36 PM
Wow. 

 They are a "remedial provision designed to ameliorate the serious problem of overrepresentation of Aboriginal People in Canadian prisons and to encourage sentencing judges to have recourse to a restorative approach to sentencing."

Those Criminal Code provisions are not a "race-based discount on sentencing," LeBel wrote.

Umm...Yes it is.  It's exactly that.  If being an aboriginal is a pre-requisite, then it's at least partially race based.

It is bananas to suggest that lesser sentences for aboriginal criminals accomplishes anything restorative on its own.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on July 28, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
It is bananas to suggest that lesser sentences for aboriginal criminals accomplishes anything restorative on its own.

Which is probably why no one has suggested that it does.
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Post by: Frank E on July 28, 2012, 05:28:07 PM
It's not really a useless subject, but is anyone able to correct the "Resign" to a "Re-Sign" on the title of the Kulemin article on the main page?

Only because it bugs me.
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Post by: Potvin29 on July 28, 2012, 09:15:55 PM
Wow. 

 They are a "remedial provision designed to ameliorate the serious problem of overrepresentation of Aboriginal People in Canadian prisons and to encourage sentencing judges to have recourse to a restorative approach to sentencing."

Those Criminal Code provisions are not a "race-based discount on sentencing," LeBel wrote.

Umm...Yes it is.  It's exactly that.  If being an aboriginal is a pre-requisite, then it's at least partially race based.

It is bananas to suggest that lesser sentences for aboriginal criminals accomplishes anything restorative on its own.

As I understand it, that comment is a reflection that it is not a "race-based discount" in the sense that if you are of that race you are automatically discounted on your sentence.  As I tried to explain above, sentences are determined on the facts of each case, whether you're white or aboriginal or any other race.

In addition to this, if it is appropriate in the circumstances of that case, and if the background factors/systemic factors/unique factors of the situation of the aboriginal offender are such that there is a reasonable alternative to imprisonment, then the courts should endeavour to attempt to do this.

Who says lesser sentences accomplishes anything restorative on its own?  Google and read the reasons for sentencing given by the judge in this case, and read the conditions of the sentence.  There is mandated counselling, etc.  Restorative measures aimed to restore the person as a functioning member of society/their aboriginal tribe. 

There have been enough studies done that show that more imprisonment is counter-productive to decreasing recidivism and decreasing prison numbers.  If it is possible and reasonable in the circumstances, avoiding prison time and mandating conditions and therapy is most certainly restorative.

It is a viewpoint that aboriginals make up a disproportionate number in the prison system, and instead of continuing to blindly throw $$ away at simply locking them up, it is for the benefit of everyone to attempt to restore them as positive members of society, and hopefully go some way towards reducing the future numbers of aboriginal offenders.

EDIT: Actually since I keep referring to them, here are the reasons for judgment: http://www.scribd.com/doc/101253301/Reasons-for-Sentence-Benjamin-Montgomery-Robinson
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on July 28, 2012, 09:22:17 PM
I think it's pretty damn asinine to call driving drunk a mitigating factor.  If anything, it is an instigating factor.

Nobody called driving drunk a mitigating factor.  In fact, it is irrelevant to his conviction of obstructing justice.  He didn't obstruct justice until after.

The fact he was an alcoholic and seeking treatment for alcoholism, which was prevalent in his family history, was a mitigating factor in his sentence for obstruction of justice.  The judge specifically said that "the continuation of his treatment goals is important for his rehabilitation personally and societally."  Case precedents have shown that conditional sentences are appropriate when involving rehabilitation for alcoholism.

The suicide/alcohol/drug abuse questions are certainly valid, but to hold it up on a racial/ethnic basis and not a circumstantial basis, well I just find that to be very difficult.  I might be incredibly biased from some of the stories my Dad used to come home with about court proceedings and some of the situations he was faced in with guns/knives directed at him during threats only to watch the individual get off under the Gladue court system (well it's predecessor to be exact). 

I think life history has to account for some things, but basing it entirely on a racial/ethnic background is kind of silly.  The Aboriginals weren't the only race that were mistreated, and while a lot needs to be done still to atone for these misdeeds, I really have a hard time seeing how this is going to solve it.

Especially when for the rest of the nation the criminal code was just made to be a whole lot more strict.

Here's the full text of a quote I posted above (but didn't see the full thing at 2 AM last night):

“To be clear, courts must take judicial notice of such matters as the history of colonialism, displacement, and residential schools and how that history continues to translate into lower educational attainment, lower incomes, higher unemployment, higher rates of substance abuse and suicide, and of course higher levels of incarceration for Aboriginal peoples. These matters, on their own, do not necessarily justify a different sentence for Aboriginal offenders. Rather, they provide the necessary context for understanding and evaluating the case-specific information presented by counsel.

...

To the extent that the application of the Gladue principles lead to different sanctions for aboriginal offenders, those sanctions will be justified based on their unique circumstances — circumstances which are rationally related to the sentencing process.”


If you have a specific group within Canada that has the history of "colonialism, displacement, and residential schools...lower educational attainment, lower incomes, higher unemployment, higher rates of substance abuse and suicide, and ... higher levels of incarceration" I don't see how it is unreasonable for a judge to take these factors into account in sentencing the individual to imprisonment or something else.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these are factors unique to aboriginals.  This doesn't mean there aren't people of other races within Canada who have had an awful life, an awful background, or an awful shot compared to the majority. 

A judge is still going to take the background of an offender into account.  The provision in the Criminal Code says that a judge should consider all reasonable alternatives to imprisonment for all offenders, not just aboriginal offenders.  The addition to the provision is that they do this with "particular attention" to aboriginals.

It is an acknowledgement of the discrimination aboriginals have faced in Canada that impacts upon their over-representation in the justice system.  Health Canada itself said in a 2004 report that aboriginal "communities are disproportionately affected by many social, economic and behavioural factors such as high rates of poverty, substance abuse, sexually transmitted infections and limited access to or use of health care services.”

They are disproportionately affected.  That means their situation is unique to other social and racial groups within Canada.  They have faced decades of discrimination and forced removal from their homes at the hands of, for lack of a better way to put it, white people.  It's really too deep of a subject to go too in-depth into here (although you can google plenty of articles/books/studies on the lasting impact and legacy of residential schools on future generations of aboriginals).

After an extensive history of discrimination and subjugation, I certainly have no problem with attempting to import some measure of traditional aboriginal "healing" restorative justice into sentencing principles for aboriginal offenders.  It's not perfect, but it's an extremely sensitive and complicated area, and to be blunt about it, their experiences are not something I can project my mind to imagine.  Even after spending the majority of my adolescence attending a school that was 50/50 aboriginal/non-aboriginal, and seeing first hand the gap that exists.
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Post by: Frank E on July 29, 2012, 12:36:02 PM

As I understand it, that comment is a reflection that it is not a "race-based discount" in the sense that if you are of that race you are automatically discounted on your sentence.  As I tried to explain above, sentences are determined on the facts of each case, whether you're white or aboriginal or any other race.

That's not how I read it.  It is specifically speaking to the challenges of aboriginals, and their numbers in prisons, and then suggesting different sentences because of this. 

From the sentencing report (thank you for that link):

"Imprisonment is to be considered a last resort, especially when protective custody could be expected and Robinson is an aboriginal offender."

After some thought, I don't have a problem with a kind of restorative justice that takes my history into account when deciding my sentence.  I just don't think it should have anything to do with race.  That the courts mandate treatments and counselling/mentoring during or after my prison sentence based on my particular needs and tendencies is probably appropriate. 

In addition to this, if it is appropriate in the circumstances of that case, and if the background factors/systemic factors/unique factors of the situation of the aboriginal offender are such that there is a reasonable alternative to imprisonment, then the courts should endeavour to attempt to do this.

I don't agree with this based on my comments above.  I'm arguing that you really shouldn't take being an aboriginal into account at all.

Who says lesser sentences accomplishes anything restorative on its own?  Google and read the reasons for sentencing given by the judge in this case, and read the conditions of the sentence.  There is mandated counselling, etc.  Restorative measures aimed to restore the person as a functioning member of society/their aboriginal tribe.

Fair enough.  I do think that the sentence was pretty light, but that's really beside the point.

There have been enough studies done that show that more imprisonment is counter-productive to decreasing recidivism and decreasing prison numbers.  If it is possible and reasonable in the circumstances, avoiding prison time and mandating conditions and therapy is most certainly restorative.

That may be the case in certain circumstances, but doesn't that need to be balanced with the desires of the victims and society?

To be honest, I'm not really looking at arguing how much prison vs. how much counselling is appropriate in particular circumstances.

It is a viewpoint that aboriginals make up a disproportionate number in the prison system, and instead of continuing to blindly throw $$ away at simply locking them up, it is for the benefit of everyone to attempt to restore them as positive members of society, and hopefully go some way towards reducing the future numbers of aboriginal offenders.

I would prefer that we administer justice that balances the victims' rights, punishments, deterrents, and restorative measures.

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on July 29, 2012, 04:31:11 PM
Finally got to Wonderland early enough to consider waiting for Leviathan and well, it certainly didn't suck * picking bugs out of my teeth *
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Post by: Ronco on July 29, 2012, 11:32:05 PM
I decided not to go on Leviathan after entering the park.
The screams were to much. You park the car look up, and it's sheer panic.

I passed on that one.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on July 29, 2012, 11:47:19 PM

That's not how I read it.  It is specifically speaking to the challenges of aboriginals, and their numbers in prisons, and then suggesting different sentences because of this. 

From the sentencing report (thank you for that link):

"Imprisonment is to be considered a last resort, especially when protective custody could be expected and Robinson is an aboriginal offender."

That may be the case in certain circumstances, but doesn't that need to be balanced with the desires of the victims and society?

...

I would prefer that we administer justice that balances the victims' rights, punishments, deterrents, and restorative measures.


It is balanced.  That is the whole purpose of the sentencing hearing and sentencing principles.  From the Criminal Code:

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718. The fundamental purpose of sentencing is to contribute, along with crime prevention initiatives, to respect for the law and the maintenance of a just, peaceful and safe society by imposing just sanctions that have one or more of the following objectives:

    (a) to denounce unlawful conduct;

    (b) to deter the offender and other persons from committing offences;

    (c) to separate offenders from society, where necessary;

    (d) to assist in rehabilitating offenders;

    (e) to provide reparations for harm done to victims or to the community; and

    (f) to promote a sense of responsibility in offenders, and acknowledgment of the harm done to victims and to the community.

These sentencing principles are there to ensure the over-arching goal of a fit and proper sentence for the individual.  Sentences have always been individualized.  Just because a court is required to take into account the background and history of aboriginal offender's does not equal ignoring the victim or deterrence.  These will ALL be brought up in the sentencing hearing.  The sentence will be individualized based on a multitude of criteria, aboriginal heritage being only one aspect of that.

As I've alluded to previously, from s718.2:

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(d) an offender should not be deprived of liberty, if less restrictive sanctions may be appropriate in the circumstances; and

(e) all available sanctions other than imprisonment that are reasonable in the circumstances should be considered for all offenders, with particular attention to the circumstances of aboriginal offenders.

These apply to ALL offenders, aboriginal or not.  If there are appropriate alternative sentences for white offenders than jail time, they will get it.  In the sentencing hearing, the court will hear any relevant background information on the white offender to mitigate their sentence. 

The court is simply required to now ensure that, in cases of aboriginal offenders, they consider the unique history of aboriginals in this country and the unique impacts upon aboriginal society that this history has wrought.

This isn't "you're this race, you get a discount! you get a discount!" as if it were some Oprah-themed judicial talk show.  This isn't arbitrarily choosing a race to bestow some advantage upon.  If anything, it is a recognition of  failed past and an attempt for a better future for everyone.  This inevitably impacts upon all society if the socio-economic conditions facing aboriginals in this country aren't ameliorated. 

The Manitoba Court of Appeal stated in R v Vermette in 2001:

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The section does not mandate better treatment for aboriginal offenders than non-aboriginal offenders. It is simply a recognition that the sentence must be individualized and that there are serious social problems with respect to aboriginals that require more creative and innovative solutions. This is not reverse discrimination. It is an acknowledgement that to achieve real equity, sometimes different people must be treated differently.

If you want to simply look at it as "race = discount" then I think that is completely missing the point.  The way you are seeing it to me feels like you are viewing the fact they are aboriginal as (1) resulting in a lesser sentence for being that race; and (2) that anything less than imprisonment is a lesser sentence, and therefore less than adequate in terms of justice.

In the 2012 Supreme Court of Canada case of R v Ipeelee, the court stated:

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The methodology set out by this Court in Gladue is designed to focus on those unique circumstances of an Aboriginal offender which could reasonably and justifiably impact on the sentence imposed. Gladue directs sentencing judges to consider: (1) the unique systemic and background factors which may have played a part in bringing the particular Aboriginal offender before the courts; and (2) the types of sentencing procedures and sanctions which may be appropriate in the circumstances for the offender because of his or her particular Aboriginal heritage or connection. Both sets of circumstances bear on the ultimate question of what is a fit and proper sentence.

The court went on to describe how Canadian criminal law is based upon the foundation that criminal liability only flows from voluntary conduct.  From Ipeelee:

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Many Aboriginal offenders find themselves in situations of social and economic deprivation with a lack of opportunities and limited options for positive development. While this rarely — if ever — attains a level where one could properly say that their actions were not voluntary and therefore not deserving of criminal sanction, the reality is that their constrained circumstances may diminish their moral culpability. As Greckol J. of the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench stated, at para. 60 of R. v. Skani, 2002 ABQB 1097, 331 A.R. 50, after describing the background factors that lead to Mr. Skani coming before the court, “[f]ew mortals could withstand such a childhood and youth without becoming seriously troubled.” Failing to take these circumstances into account would violate the fundamental principle of sentencing — that the sentence must be proportionate to the gravity of the offence and the degree of responsibility of the offender. The existence of such circumstances may also indicate that a sanction that takes account of the underlying causes of the criminal conduct may be more appropriate than one only aimed at punishment per se.



As Cory and Iacobucci JJ. state in Gladue, at para. 69:
In cases where such factors have played a significant role, it is incumbent upon the sentencing judge to consider these factors in evaluating whether imprisonment would actually serve to deter, or to denounce crime in a sense that would be meaningful to the community of which the offender is a member. In many instances, more restorative sentencing principles will gain primary relevance precisely because the prevention of crime as well as individual and social healing cannot occur through other means.

I think we need to get away from viewing alternative sentencing methods (which exist for all offenders anyways) as working to lessen their guilt or punishment in some way.  It is simply a reflection of the justice system evolving to treat offenders in a way that benefits society as a whole and attempts to reduce recidivism.

And one final quote from Ipeelee:

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Section 718.2(e) does not create a race-based discount on sentencing. The provision does not ask courts to remedy the overrepresentation of Aboriginal people in prisons by artificially reducing incarceration rates. Rather, sentencing judges are required to pay particular attention to the circumstances of Aboriginal offenders in order to endeavour to achieve a truly fit and proper sentence in any particular case. This has, and continues to be, the fundamental duty of a sentencing judge. Gladue is entirely consistent with the requirement that sentencing judges engage in an individualized assessment of all of the relevant factors and circumstances, including the status and life experiences, of the person standing before them. Gladue affirms this requirement and recognizes that, up to this point, Canadian courts have failed to take into account the unique circumstances of Aboriginal offenders that bear on the sentencing process. Section 718.2(e) is intended to remedy this failure by directing judges to craft sentences in a manner that is meaningful to Aboriginal peoples. Neglecting this duty would not be faithful to the core requirement of the sentencing process.

This is as much as I can really contribute on the matter.  I won't be taking my course on Canadian criminal law until next term, and to go any further in an analysis of the law would entail entirely too much time (exams in a week and a half).

Hopefully it's at least provided some deeper understanding of the law and the justificiation behind it.

R v Ipeelee decision: http://scc.lexum.org/en/2012/2012scc13/2012scc13.html
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Post by: Sarge on August 08, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
So, In-N-Out Burgers really that good? - Never had one.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 08, 2012, 01:13:51 PM
So, In-N-Out Burgers really that good? - Never had one.
It's great, I think I prefer Five Guys though.

The Neapolitan shakes from In-N-Out are great though, gives you a total tongue erection.
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Post by: Sarge on August 08, 2012, 01:15:32 PM
Hmmm, need to find me one of those...
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Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on August 08, 2012, 02:02:10 PM
Hmmm, need to find me one of those...

An erection?  They make a pill for that now.
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Post by: Sarge on August 08, 2012, 02:03:20 PM
 :)
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Post by: Frank E on August 10, 2012, 04:06:58 PM
Going into the city (Toronto) tomorrow night...anyone got any suggestions for a restaurant near Jarvis and Bloor?
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Post by: Rick Couchman on August 10, 2012, 04:33:41 PM
Going into the city (Toronto) tomorrow night...anyone got any suggestions for a restaurant near Jarvis and Bloor?

The Keg Mansion is close by, and is always a favourite.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on August 10, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
Going into the city (Toronto) tomorrow night...anyone got any suggestions for a restaurant near Jarvis and Bloor?

I guess it depends on what you mean by near and what you're looking for but you'd be a 5-10 minute drive away from the Danforth where I'd recommend Avli or Pantheon if you're a fan of greek food(although that comes from a non-greek so I can't speak to their authenticity).
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Post by: Frank E on August 10, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
Going into the city (Toronto) tomorrow night...anyone got any suggestions for a restaurant near Jarvis and Bloor?

The Keg Mansion is close by, and is always a favourite.

Going into the city (Toronto) tomorrow night...anyone got any suggestions for a restaurant near Jarvis and Bloor?

I guess it depends on what you mean by near and what you're looking for but you'd be a 5-10 minute drive away from the Danforth where I'd recommend Avli or Pantheon if you're a fan of greek food(although that comes from a non-greek so I can't speak to their authenticity).

Thanks boys. 

How about cool lounges with music?
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Post by: Nik the Trik on August 10, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
Thanks boys. 

How about cool lounges with music?

None I'm familiar with in the neighbourhood unfortunately.

Also, you should probably disregard my dinner recommendation. The Taste of the Danforth street fair/festival will be going on this weekend so it'll be packed and not driveable.
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Post by: Rick Couchman on August 10, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
Thanks boys. 

How about cool lounges with music?

Don't know the names, but there's a couple on Bloor between the Rogers building and Yonge, both on the south side of Bloor...
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Post by: Frank E on August 10, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.
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Post by: skippy on August 10, 2012, 06:36:31 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.

I'm sure you'll find many places that offer fancy girl drinks and seating for one.
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Post by: Rick Couchman on August 10, 2012, 06:55:18 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.

I'm sure you'll find many places that offer fancy girl drinks and seating for one.

Or, if you go south a few blocks, you might find Skippy in the Church and Wellsely area...
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Post by: Sarge on August 10, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
Finally! The answer to the meaning of his handle.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Frank E on August 10, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.

I'm sure you'll find many places that offer fancy girl drinks and seating for one.

That's the best you got?
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Post by: skippy on August 10, 2012, 07:49:44 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.

I'm sure you'll find many places that offer fancy girl drinks and seating for one.

That's the best you got?

I thought the seating for one was fairly good. I could tell some disgusting stories about your mom if you prefer?
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Post by: skippy on August 10, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
Thanks again gentlemen.

I'm sure you'll find many places that offer fancy girl drinks and seating for one.

Or, if you go south a few blocks, you might find Skippy in the Church and Wellsely area...

I thought we agreed to not reveal our secret?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 10, 2012, 09:45:59 PM
:-| I wish you guys would stop that. It wasn't funny the first time and it wasn't funny the five millionth time either.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on August 11, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
Huge boys weekend coming up. I'ts a group for the most part that are big scotch drinkers. I know some scotch drinkers thumb their noses at bourbon but to tell you the truth, I actually prefer it. Usually, the finer scotch is just wasted on me. Now, I'm far from a boubon connoisseur but I do recognize there's a huge difference between Wild Turkey and Maker's Mark (which I almost always buy.) Having said that, are there any bourbon drinkers out there that can recommend a nice bottle that I can enjoy amongst these snooty scotch drinkers? - I don't have an unlimited budget either.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 11, 2012, 01:19:27 PM
What's your budget?

Knob Creek is pretty good and will usually cost between $25-$30 for a 0.75 litre and it's nine years old small batch.

Basically if you can find Bourbon that's been aged in a single barrel it's going to be good, might be a little more costly than the above, which is kinda the level above Makers Mark and the like.

EDIT: The Elijah Craig and Weller's are also pretty good, around the same price for the same sized bottle and both are 12 year olds I think.
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Post by: Sarge on August 11, 2012, 01:33:23 PM
My wife would kill me if she found out but I don't object to spending 75,80 bucks. Obviously, if there's little value in doing that, the cheaper the better.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on August 11, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Are you going to be in Canada or the States? Because the selection in Canada doesn't really allow for a ton of variety unless you go to one of the giant LCBO's that has the special Whiskey Shop in it. I agree with Wig that Knob Creek is one of the better commercially available bourbons but I'm not sure if the LCBO stocks it.
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Post by: Sarge on August 11, 2012, 01:37:45 PM
Canada... and the LCBO website shows 2 bottles of the Knob on hand at my local.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on August 11, 2012, 01:42:26 PM
Canada... and the LCBO website shows 2 bottles of the Knob on hand at my local.

Well, that's a good one then. I also like the Four Roses single barrel but I don't think either one will steer you wrong.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 11, 2012, 01:44:40 PM
My wife would kill me if she found out but I don't object to spending 75,80 bucks. Obviously, if there's little value in doing that, the cheaper the better.

If you wanna spend that then I'd go for Blanton's, single barrel, smooth and still a little warmth there, drink it neat without ice.

EDIT: It will probably cost around $50.
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Post by: Sarge on August 11, 2012, 01:47:43 PM
Thanks guys.
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 11, 2012, 02:12:16 PM
I've tried a number of different bourbons, and my favourite is the 10yo Eagle Rare, currently available through vintages at the LCBO
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Post by: Sarge on August 14, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
I've tried a number of different bourbons, and my favourite is the 10yo Eagle Rare, currently available through vintages at the LCBO

Thanks for the recommendation.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 14, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
Mike Brown's mullethawk and beard combo is so bad it's awesome.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 16, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Pic?
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 16, 2012, 11:35:12 AM
Pic?
(http://i.imgur.com/RdCNr.jpg)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 16, 2012, 11:57:29 AM
He kinda reminds me of that UFC fighter, I don't know his name as I've only seen him in commercials years ago, and never watch UFC. Makes Brown look tougher haha
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Post by: seahawk on August 16, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
He kinda reminds me of that UFC fighter, I don't know his name as I've only seen him in commercials years ago, and never watch UFC. Makes Brown look tougher haha

Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: TML fan on August 18, 2012, 05:54:57 PM
I don't know if any of you watch Star Trek, but it always bothered me that EVERYONE in Starfleet seems to be an officer, except for O'Brien.
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Post by: bustaheims on August 18, 2012, 06:08:43 PM
I don't know if any of you watch Star Trek, but it always bothered me that EVERYONE in Starfleet seems to be an officer, except for O'Brien.

You mean Senior Chief Petty Officer Miles O'Brien (according to Wikipedia)?
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Post by: Bender on August 18, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
Pic?
(http://i.imgur.com/RdCNr.jpg)

Looking more hick like by the day!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on August 18, 2012, 06:40:52 PM
I don't know if any of you watch Star Trek, but it always bothered me that EVERYONE in Starfleet seems to be an officer, except for O'Brien.

Wasn't that the thrust of the show though? Like, they only focused on the Officers and it was the non-coms in the red shirts who got killed off all the time?
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Post by: TML fan on August 18, 2012, 11:46:28 PM
I don't know if any of you watch Star Trek, but it always bothered me that EVERYONE in Starfleet seems to be an officer, except for O'Brien.

Wasn't that the thrust of the show though? Like, they only focused on the Officers and it was the non-coms in the red shirts who got killed off all the time?

Yeah, in the Original Series that pretty much covers it. I was talking more about the Next Generation. Even the red (gold) shirts were ensigns or lieutenants.

EDIT: After looking at some numbers, it appears that a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier with a crew complement of around 3200 has close to 600 officers (including aircrew and flag) so I guess it's pretty much in line with modern day standards. Never mind then!  :)
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 21, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
I am now, as of yesterday evening, a resident of Winnipeg and no longer living up north in the middle of no where, seemed like this day would never come :-D
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 25, 2012, 03:26:28 PM
RIP Neil Armstrong...
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Post by: Sarge on August 25, 2012, 05:03:21 PM
Sad day.
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Post by: Sarge on August 25, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pink-floyds-gilmour-recalls-jamming-to-the-moon-landing-20090721
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Post by: Stebro on August 27, 2012, 01:16:12 PM
Had to take a conflict at work after only a few weeks with my "supervisor". I told her that I don't think that we'd able to work together long term, and that I think that she has a lot of opinions about meaningless details. Tomorrow I'll have a meeting with my boss, hmm ???
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Post by: Rick Couchman on August 27, 2012, 01:30:17 PM
Had to take a conflict at work after only a few weeks with my "supervisor". I told her that I don't think that we'd able to work together long term, and that I think that she has a lot of opinions about meaningless details. Tomorrow I'll have a meeting with my boss, hmm ???

Stand tall, my friend, and stick to your convictions!
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Post by: Stebro on August 27, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
Had to take a conflict at work after only a few weeks with my "supervisor". I told her that I don't think that we'd able to work together long term, and that I think that she has a lot of opinions about meaningless details. Tomorrow I'll have a meeting with my boss, hmm ???

Stand tall, my friend, and stick to your convictions!
I will, it was just a risky move, first job in like a year, and I start out like that. But I don't think that I am to blame, and I'm not gonna be a slave and sell myself out completely just because I need the money.
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Post by: Stebro on August 27, 2012, 01:39:48 PM
Had to take a conflict at work after only a few weeks with my "supervisor". I told her that I don't think that we'd able to work together long term, and that I think that she has a lot of opinions about meaningless details. Tomorrow I'll have a meeting with my boss, hmm ???

Do you belong to a union?
No, I always have temporary jobs, and it doesn't feel like a good investment to pay a union, when they can't help me to stay there, and they can't help me with the salary either.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 27, 2012, 02:17:24 PM
Threaten their families or bring a gun, that usually helps.

Perhaps airing your grievances more diplomatically would have helped?
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Post by: Stebro on August 27, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
Threaten their families or bring a gun, that usually helps.

Perhaps airing your grievances more diplomatically would have helped?
That was my diplomatic side ;D no, but I'm a calm type, I don't yell, but I can be very honest, and I thought it was well-deserved.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 28, 2012, 05:15:53 PM
I saw an idea on another forum that might be cool to try here, just thought I'd guage interest here before starting a thread.

The thread would be called the anonymous confessions thread.

Here's how it works. I want your dirtiest, most perverse, most shameful confessions(within reason on a family site). I want stuff that you haven't told ANYONE, things that would make your poor sweet grandmother regret every cookie she made your disgusting self. Or just something that you feel guilty or weird about that you'd like to get off of your chest.

You could send it to me, via an email I'll make up for this purpose (or PM it to me if you don't care if I know who it came from) and I will post it in the thread, completely anonymously.

If you don't want me to have your email address, set up a disposable gmail or hotmail or whatever to send me your story. No one will know who sent what, but we'll all get to laugh/puke/whatever else, to the strange confessions of the TMLFans poster.

Good idea, bad idea. what say you?
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Post by: Rick Couchman on August 28, 2012, 06:46:35 PM
I saw an idea on another forum that might be cool to try here, just thought I'd guage interest here before starting a thread.

The thread would be called the anonymous confessions thread.

Here's how it works. I want your dirtiest, most perverse, most shameful confessions(within reason on a family site). I want stuff that you haven't told ANYONE, things that would make your poor sweet grandmother regret every cookie she made your disgusting self. Or just something that you feel guilty or weird about that you'd like to get off of your chest.

You could send it to me, via an email I'll make up for this purpose (or PM it to me if you don't care if I know who it came from) and I will post it in the thread, completely anonymously.

If you don't want me to have your email address, set up a disposable gmail or hotmail or whatever to send me your story. No one will know who sent what, but we'll all get to laugh/puke/whatever else, to the strange confessions of the TMLFans poster.

Good idea, bad idea. what say you?

You know what - it's not such a bad idea ;)
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Post by: Tigger on August 29, 2012, 10:22:10 AM
Samsung Pays Apple $1 Billion Sending 30 Trucks Full of 5 Cents Coins (http://en.paperblog.com/samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cents-coins-294795/)

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This morning more than 30 trucks filled with 5-cent coins arrived at Apple’s headquarters in California. Initially,  the security company that protects the facility said the trucks were in the wrong place, but minutes later, Tim Cook (Apple CEO) received a call from Samsung CEO explaining that  they will pay $1 billion dollars for the fine recently ruled against the South Korean company in this way.

 ;D
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Post by: Sarge on August 29, 2012, 10:49:56 AM
Holy cow, that's funny.
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on August 29, 2012, 11:26:17 AM
The story is apparently a hoax, but who knows Samsung could think it's a good idea.
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Post by: Andy on August 29, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
The story is apparently a hoax, but who knows Samsung could think it's a good idea.

Well it was someone else's idea so Samsung definitely could be interested in ripping it off ;)
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Post by: Tigger on August 29, 2012, 12:22:53 PM
The story is apparently a hoax, but who knows Samsung could think it's a good idea.

It occurred to me that it might be a hoax but I couldn't verify it and I thought it was amusing regardless.
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Post by: Nik the Trik on August 29, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
The story is apparently a hoax, but who knows Samsung could think it's a good idea.

I think the fact that the link itself lists the story as satire should probably be clue #1.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on August 29, 2012, 02:58:14 PM
The story is apparently a hoax, but who knows Samsung could think it's a good idea.

Well it was someone else's idea so Samsung definitely could be interested in ripping it off ;)

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  *applause*
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 04, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
I had a car accident last august (2011), and after a year or physiotherapy not helping, they did a MRI and found an enlarged disc in my neck. It isn't serious enough to do surgery as it isn't putting any pressure on my spinal cord or nerves, but it is still causing me neck and shoulder issues. There is nothing else that can be done my doctor told me at my appt this afternoon. Its basically a chronic condition that I have to live with the rest of my life, unless it starts causing pressure on my spinal cord/nerves in my neck :/

Is this something my auto insurance will pay compensation for or am I SOL?
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 04, 2012, 07:20:42 PM
I had a car accident last august (2011), and after a year or physiotherapy not helping, they did a MRI and found an enlarged disc in my neck. It isn't serious enough to do surgery as it isn't putting any pressure on my spinal cord or nerves, but it is still causing me neck and shoulder issues. There is nothing else that can be done my doctor told me at my appt this afternoon. Its basically a chronic condition that I have to live with the rest of my life, unless it starts causing pressure on my spinal cord/nerves in my neck :/

Is this something my auto insurance will pay compensation for or am I SOL?

Who was at fault in the accident? If the other driver was at fault, you could go after them for compensation.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 04, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Hmmm no one was at fault except me I guess? I hit a deer last year. :/
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 04, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Hmmm no one was at fault except me I guess? I hit a deer last year. :/

sue Bambi! or Bambi's estate, I guess.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Dappleganger on September 05, 2012, 01:36:56 PM
I got ID'd buying a lottery ticket the other day. I'm 31.  :-\
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 05, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Nice, if I shave I get ID'd at the liquor store and I'm almost 30, I like it haha
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Post by: Corn Flake on September 05, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
I got ID'd buying a lottery ticket the other day. I'm 31.  :-\

Take it as a compliment.  I still get it at 35 from time to time.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 03:04:51 PM
I sell cigarettes and lottery tickets (On the rare occasion I have a shift out in the Smoke shop area of the store, that is) and we're *supposed* to ID anyone who looks under 25. The reason for that is, the store gets fined $5000.00, and so too does the individual who actually sells to someone underage, along with losing their job.
I'm sorry, but I'm not risking that kind of money nor my continued employment just because someone's offended at being ID'd. In fact, if you say it right or with the right tone of voice, most people take it as a compliment that they look younger than they are. I ID'd a lady who turned out to be 35 one day. She looked not a day over 22-ish. She whipped out that ID so quickly and said I absolutely made her day thinking she was that young.
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Post by: Manson on September 05, 2012, 03:05:13 PM
I had a car accident last august (2011), and after a year or physiotherapy not helping, they did a MRI and found an enlarged disc in my neck. It isn't serious enough to do surgery as it isn't putting any pressure on my spinal cord or nerves, but it is still causing me neck and shoulder issues. There is nothing else that can be done my doctor told me at my appt this afternoon. Its basically a chronic condition that I have to live with the rest of my life, unless it starts causing pressure on my spinal cord/nerves in my neck :/

Is this something my auto insurance will pay compensation for or am I SOL?

Don't you already have an injury claim open with your insurance company to pay for your physio?  It's with MPI right?  Any treatment you need is covered under your own policy.  I don't know what the time limit on it though, in Ontario it's 10 years of treatment.

If it's pain and suffering you're talking about because of the chronic condition, you'd have to sue any negligent party, so if it's a single vehicle accident hitting a deer there's no probably no one to sue.
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 05, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
Thanks Mission.

Yea just myself involved in the accident and an injury claim is open, but they will only pay for 24 physio appts, which I used up quite a while ago. They will do chiropractic(24 appts) and athletic therapy(40 appts) as well, guess that's the route to go.
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Post by: Manson on September 05, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
Thanks Mission.

Yea just myself involved in the accident and an injury claim is open, but they will only pay for 24 physio appts, which I used up quite a while ago. They will do chiropractic(24 appts) and athletic therapy(40 appts) as well, guess that's the route to go.

Ask them about settlement for any remaining benefits.  It's often in their best interest too to just pay out a lump sum to you in exchange for you releasing them from any further claim.  Truthfully, most people just pocket the cash but it's your call how you use it.

The problem is even your doctor is saying you won't get any better from further treatment so they might not be interested in settlement.  Your leverage is that you potentially require surgery and require a lot more treatment.

I don't know the benefits in Manitoba so it's tough to say but I would enquire about settlement of remaining benefits and let me know their response.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 05, 2012, 07:52:23 PM
I sell cigarettes and lottery tickets (On the rare occasion I have a shift out in the Smoke shop area of the store, that is) and we're *supposed* to ID anyone who looks under 25. The reason for that is, the store gets fined $5000.00, and so too does the individual who actually sells to someone underage, along with losing their job.
I'm sorry, but I'm not risking that kind of money nor my continued employment just because someone's offended at being ID'd. In fact, if you say it right or with the right tone of voice, most people take it as a compliment that they look younger than they are. I ID'd a lady who turned out to be 35 one day. She looked not a day over 22-ish. She whipped out that ID so quickly and said I absolutely made her day thinking she was that young.

Its the same thing at the LCBO. Our policy is check 25, so anyone who appears 25 or younger gets ID's. I actually take it a step farther and ID anyone who appears 30 or younger. Yes, there are occasions when people get angry with me, especially if they have left their ID at home/in the car because they dont expect to be IDd, but id rather be yelled at and called names than be fined and lose my job because someone "swears theyre 19".
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 05, 2012, 08:16:30 PM
I sell cigarettes and lottery tickets (On the rare occasion I have a shift out in the Smoke shop area of the store, that is) and we're *supposed* to ID anyone who looks under 25. The reason for that is, the store gets fined $5000.00, and so too does the individual who actually sells to someone underage, along with losing their job.
I'm sorry, but I'm not risking that kind of money nor my continued employment just because someone's offended at being ID'd. In fact, if you say it right or with the right tone of voice, most people take it as a compliment that they look younger than they are. I ID'd a lady who turned out to be 35 one day. She looked not a day over 22-ish. She whipped out that ID so quickly and said I absolutely made her day thinking she was that young.

Its the same thing at the LCBO. Our policy is check 25, so anyone who appears 25 or younger gets ID's. I actually take it a step farther and ID anyone who appears 30 or younger. Yes, there are occasions when people get angry with me, especially if they have left their ID at home/in the car because they dont expect to be IDd, but id rather be yelled at and called names than be fined and lose my job because someone "swears theyre 19".

I guess this is a question for both of you but has there ever been discussion of a policy to just ID everyone? I know that for people 40 or older it probably would be seen as a waste of time but I will say that as someone in my position the frustration only comes up because I have no idea if it'll happen and how safe I'll be to pop in without ID. If I knew flat out I'd be carded I'd be fine with it.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 08:26:28 PM
funny you bring that up, Nik, because some of my coworkers do that. ID everyone, that is, except for the obvious (old people, and I'm talking hearing aids, canes and hardly any hair). We have a core of staff (the four women that do most of the day time shifts) that hardly ID anyone anymore, only because they know all our regular customers. But most of the rest of us ID just about everyone because it levels the playing field for everyone. Nobody can yell discrimination if *everyone* gets ID'd.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 08:29:59 PM

I guess this is a question for both of you but has there ever been discussion of a policy to just ID everyone? I know that for people 40 or older it probably would be seen as a waste of time but I will say that as someone in my position the frustration only comes up because I have no idea if it'll happen and how safe I'll be to pop in without ID. If I knew flat out I'd be carded I'd be fine with it.

well, given that the vast majority of my customers pay by debit, they're already armed with some ID when they come in. Who runs around with just their debit card on them? If you're popping in with your card, bring your driver's license with you too :D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 05, 2012, 08:39:02 PM

I guess this is a question for both of you but has there ever been discussion of a policy to just ID everyone? I know that for people 40 or older it probably would be seen as a waste of time but I will say that as someone in my position the frustration only comes up because I have no idea if it'll happen and how safe I'll be to pop in without ID. If I knew flat out I'd be carded I'd be fine with it.

well, given that the vast majority of my customers pay by debit, they're already armed with some ID when they come in. Who runs around with just their debit card on them? If you're popping in with your card, bring your driver's license with you too :D

Well, just in my case I live/went to school/work in downtown Toronto so I've actually never had a driver's license. ID in my case tends to be my passport which is something I don't want to carry around unless I need to.

On a side note, I've never understood why a healthcard didnt work in those cases.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 08:47:20 PM

On a side note, I've never understood why a healthcard didnt work in those cases.

It's a confidentiality thing. I don't know how it is at other retailers, but we're required to enter the date of birth on the cash register when we card someone. I enter it as digits (ie 02151970 for Feb 15, 1970). That lets our report know the DoB of the customer that was ID'd but nothing else. Some places will swipe your Driver's License or whatever in their registers. That would scare me, I don't know if they're accessing information other than the DoB when the card is swiped like that. Just how much info is on that mag stripe?
The government of Ontario does not allow the recording of the health card number for any other purpose but to access health care. It's the same reason banks are allowed to see that you have a picture ID that is a health card, but they are not allowed to record that number and use it as your proof of identity. At our store, we will use the health card for proof of age (provided that the cardholder resembles the picture definitively) because we do not enter the actual card number, we enter just the date of birth.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 05, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
What really bugs me is if your license is expired and they won't accept it, even if it's fairly recent and you're waiting on the new one in the mail.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
What really bugs me is if your license is expired and they won't accept it, even if it's fairly recent and you're waiting on the new one in the mail.
omg. Because if it's expired, it's no longer valid WIGWAL. We don't make the rules we just follow them.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 05, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
It's a confidentiality thing. I don't know how it is at other retailers, but we're required to enter the date of birth on the cash register when we card someone. I enter it as digits (ie 02151970 for Feb 15, 1970). That lets our report know the DoB of the customer that was ID'd but nothing else. Some places will swipe your Driver's License or whatever in their registers. That would scare me, I don't know if they're accessing information other than the DoB when the card is swiped like that. Just how much info is on that mag stripe?
The government of Ontario does not allow the recording of the health card number for any other purpose but to access health care. It's the same reason banks are allowed to see that you have a picture ID that is a health card, but they are not allowed to record that number and use it as your proof of identity. At our store, we will use the health card for proof of age (provided that the cardholder resembles the picture definitively) because we do not enter the actual card number, we enter just the date of birth.

That makes some degree of sense but in other cases it just baffles me. Like,  bars won't accept it and they're just looking at the DOB. But even crazier, that's come up for me lately, is that the provincial government won't accept it as ID when you're in the process of renewing your health card. They issued it. It's their card.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 05, 2012, 08:58:48 PM

That makes some degree of sense but in other cases it just baffles me. Like,  bars won't accept it and they're just looking at the DOB. But even crazier, that's come up for me lately, is that the provincial government won't accept it as ID when you're in the process of renewing your health card. They issued it. It's their card.

yeah, the government is a idiot. That really is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 05, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
What really bugs me is if your license is expired and they won't accept it, even if it's fairly recent and you're waiting on the new one in the mail.

Once it expires it is no longer valid. If you have renewed it, and are waiting for your new ID in the mail, you will have the sticker on your license, and the paper copy of the renewal which adds two months to the expiry date - ample time to receive your new ID in the mail.

As for health cards, im not sure about other retailers, but at the LCBO we are not allowed to ASK for a health card, but if the customer offers it up we CAN take it - but its the cashiers discretion. Its not something we are required to accept however. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Dappleganger on September 05, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
I sell cigarettes and lottery tickets (On the rare occasion I have a shift out in the Smoke shop area of the store, that is) and we're *supposed* to ID anyone who looks under 25. The reason for that is, the store gets fined $5000.00, and so too does the individual who actually sells to someone underage, along with losing their job.
I'm sorry, but I'm not risking that kind of money nor my continued employment just because someone's offended at being ID'd. In fact, if you say it right or with the right tone of voice, most people take it as a compliment that they look younger than they are. I ID'd a lady who turned out to be 35 one day. She looked not a day over 22-ish. She whipped out that ID so quickly and said I absolutely made her day thinking she was that young.

I got a chuckle out of it. I told the cashier that I was gonna tell all the 17 year old girls I'm only twenty.  :D
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 05, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
What really bugs me is if your license is expired and they won't accept it, even if it's fairly recent and you're waiting on the new one in the mail.
omg. Because if it's expired, it's no longer valid WIGWAL. We don't make the rules we just follow them.

Did I say you made the rules? And as for Jho's comment about the sticker, not the case here, you can renew online and need to wait for the new license.

Basically all that needs to be seen is the D.O.B, I mean provided its expired somewhat recently, it's pretty obvious it's that person as it has a somewhat recent picture.

I understand needing the I.D. to still to be current if the person is applying for something and their identity needs to be verified, but as means of an age check it is silly.

That is not commentary on any random store clerk, obviously they have no say on how the system works, it's more just a commentary on the system as a whole.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 05, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
What really bugs me is if your license is expired and they won't accept it, even if it's fairly recent and you're waiting on the new one in the mail.
omg. Because if it's expired, it's no longer valid WIGWAL. We don't make the rules we just follow them.

Did I say you made the rules? And as for Jho's comment about the sticker, not the case here, you can renew online and need to wait for the new license.

Basically all that needs to be seen is the D.O.B, I mean provided its expired somewhat recently, it's pretty obvious it's that person as it has a somewhat recent picture.

I understand needing the I.D. to still to be current if the person is applying for something and their identity needs to be verified, but as means of an age check it is silly.

That is not commentary on any random store clerk, obviously they have no say on how the system works, it's more just a commentary on the system as a whole.

I think one of the biggest reasons for it being so strict is because of the common practice of brothers/sisters passing on ID to younger siblings/underage friends. Especially in the case of a brother/sister, the picture will look similar enough, and slight differences could be played off because the picture was taken a few years ago. Next thing you know, alcohol is in the hands of a minor, and what happens from there could be anyones guess. What people dont always realize, is that if that child drinks, and something happens, then its proven that they were served underage, the person who served them is held accountable. Like jail time, charges, hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines etc.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 05, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
I understand your point especially if people are trying to use I.D. that is years expired, but I think there should be a 3-6 month amnesty on the expiry and it still being a valid proof of age.

If under the system I suggested, you sold alcohol to someone who provided to you what appeared to be proof of age and they purposely trick you into believing that they where that person in the I.D. and are of age, then your liability should be waived.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 05, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
What an interesting debate..

Your drivers license expires every 5 years but your D.O.B. stays the same....

I think if I ever get rejected with an expired drivers license, I shall laugh out loud and curse the day yet again we elected that POS to power in Ontario.

I have been to certain cities in the USA where they have signs on the bar/club windows that flat out state "If you are under 45, without ID, don't bother coming in and ordering alcohol."

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 05, 2012, 10:58:11 PM
I think if I ever get rejected with an expired drivers license, I shall laugh out loud and curse the day yet again we elected that POS to power in Ontario.

What? In what way does that have anything to do with the Premier? It's not like you could use expired ID before him.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 05, 2012, 11:23:46 PM
I think if I ever get rejected with an expired drivers license, I shall laugh out loud and curse the day yet again we elected that POS to power in Ontario.

What? In what way does that have anything to do with the Premier? It's not like you could use expired ID before him.

I think the original point that WIGWAL was making, was that regardless if the ID is expired, it still shows your DOB on the card, so why should someone be rejected for buying booze/cigarettes, etc for it? Oh yeah, because of the truly fantastic rules in place run by the Premier. So excuse me if I have a major problem with him. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 05, 2012, 11:29:24 PM

I think one of the biggest reasons for it being so strict is because of the common practice of brothers/sisters passing on ID to younger siblings/underage friends. Especially in the case of a brother/sister, the picture will look similar enough, and slight differences could be played off because the picture was taken a few years ago. Next thing you know, alcohol is in the hands of a minor, and what happens from there could be anyones guess. What people dont always realize, is that if that child drinks, and something happens, then its proven that they were served underage, the person who served them is held accountable. Like jail time, charges, hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines etc.

The point of the ID is more to save your hide as a cashier. If you really believe it is there for what you typed above, how does that stop all those 21 year olds who run and grab a case of beer or a bottle,with a valid ID, for their 18 year old buddies? It doesn't and you know that already. And you rightfully won't care as you have done your job correctly.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 05, 2012, 11:44:07 PM
I think the original point that WIGWAL was making, was that regardless if the ID is expired, it still shows your DOB on the card, so why should someone be rejected for buying booze/cigarettes, etc for it? Oh yeah, because of the truly fantastic rules in place run by the Premier. So excuse me if I have a major problem with him.

Well, A) WIGWAL doesn't live in Ontario and B) What rules did the Premier put in place that you think changed this policy for Ontario?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 06, 2012, 12:04:40 AM

Well, A) WIGWAL doesn't live in Ontario and B) What rules did the Premier put in place that you think changed this policy for Ontario?

Until recently, WIGWAL did live in Ontario,(within the last 3 years at least) but I have no idea what that has to do with the price of pigs feet on the open market? B) I didn't say Mcguinty put it into place, but he is the guy who runs the nanny state in place. Are you yet again arguing just for the sake of arguing Nik? I mean, haven't you said before you had lived in Australia for a spell? Does that mean your argument is moot now because you haven't lived here until recently, so maybe you haven't seen the mismanagement caused by our POS premier et al?

The mans been in power for 9 years come October, and in that same time, the Leafs only made the playoff that first year he was in office..C'mon!!  >:(

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 06, 2012, 12:28:44 AM
Until recently, WIGWAL did live in Ontario,(within the last 3 years at least) but I have no idea what that has to do with the price of pigs feet on the open market?

Well, assuming he's talking about where he lives now it at the very least shows that not allowing the use of an expired license as ID has nothing to do with Ontario and would likely be policy regardless of who was Premier. Think about what you're saying. If McGuinty didn't adopt this as policy then it's policy that existed under the conservatives. If it's policy that existed under the Conservatives then why would it cause you to curse the day McGuinty was elected? Did the Conservatives plan to change the policy?

Are you yet again arguing just for the sake of arguing Nik?

Until this post I wasn't arguing anything. I was asking you questions because I genuinely have no idea how anyone could present this as a political issue.

I mean, haven't you said before you had lived in Australia for a spell? Does that mean your argument is moot now because you haven't lived here until recently, so maybe you haven't seen the mismanagement caused by our POS premier et al?

Well, leaving aside that I only lived in Australia for one year three years ago and spent the rest of my life in Ontario, I wasn't saying anyone's argument was moot because of where they lived. I was asking how Dalton McGuinty would be responsible for a policy that you yourself say he didn't put into place.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 06, 2012, 12:42:14 AM


Well, assuming he's talking about where he lives now it at the very least shows that not allowing the use of an expired license as ID has nothing to do with Ontario and would likely be policy regardless of who was Premier. Think about what you're saying. If McGuinty didn't adopt this as policy then it's policy that existed under the conservatives. If it's policy that existed under the Conservatives then why would it cause you to curse the day McGuinty was elected? Did the Conservatives plan to change the policy?
You're right Nik. So, that would mean LHF, J-Ho or myself shouldn't have commented since we do not reside in the great state of California.  How do you know it was the Cons who brought it in and not the NDP or the Liberals or Cons before Harris? I think I explained clearly why I cursed his election. You have chose to skip over whatever you want. Not sure if that's deliberate or not, or just convenient.

Are you yet again arguing just for the sake of arguing Nik?
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Until this post I wasn't arguing anything. I was asking you questions because I genuinely have no idea how anyone could present this as a political issue.

Is it a political issue or just my opinion on what a poor job that the man has done in his time in power?

I mean, haven't you said before you had lived in Australia for a spell? Does that mean your argument is moot now because you haven't lived here until recently, so maybe you haven't seen the mismanagement caused by our POS premier et al?
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Well, leaving aside that I only lived in Australia for one year three years ago and spent the rest of my life in Ontario, I wasn't saying anyone's argument was moot because of where they lived. I was asking how Dalton McGuinty would be responsible for a policy that you yourself say he didn't put into place.

Again, it's about who is in power now,running the rules which I clearly do not agree with, not who put it into place in the first place.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 06, 2012, 12:53:48 AM
You're right Nik. So, that would mean LHF, J-Ho or myself shouldn't have commented since we do not reside in the great state of California.

I didn't say that. You'll notice that it's just your comment I asked questions about.

How do you know it was the Cons who brought it in and not the NDP or the Liberals or Cons before Harris?

I didn't make any claims as to who instituted the policy. I asked why anyone should be found at fault for a policy they didn't institute or why you thought this policy would be different under any other premier when, as you astutely point out, it probably passed through all three parties intact.

I think I explained clearly why I cursed his election.

It's clear you don't like him but I still don't have any idea what that has to do with expired drivers licenses.

Is it a political issue or just my opinion on what a poor job that the man has done in his time in power?

The issue I have isn't that you don't like McGuinty. I've never voted for him or his party. It's the idea of citing as one of your issues with him and his government something that, as far as I know, is true everywhere. I don't know of a single place in the world where expired pieces of ID can still be used as ID. My passport, which is issued federally, can't be used to identify myself if it's expired. Do you think that's a similar example of Harper's mismanagement?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 06, 2012, 05:32:43 AM
Sigh.

I'm sorry WIGWAL, if I came off as snarky or whatever, that wasn't the intention. I was going for incredulous, but I forgot you don't live in Ontario.

Truly?!! You can ONLY renew the thing online where you live? Holy crap what about people who don't have computers! That's *almost* as bad as here. wow (that's incredulous, too)

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on September 06, 2012, 08:09:23 AM
I think if I ever get rejected with an expired drivers license, I shall laugh out loud and curse the day yet again we elected that POS to power in Ontario.

What? In what way does that have anything to do with the Premier? It's not like you could use expired ID before him.

I think the original point that WIGWAL was making, was that regardless if the ID is expired, it still shows your DOB on the card, so why should someone be rejected for buying booze/cigarettes, etc for it? Oh yeah, because of the truly fantastic rules in place run by the Premier. So excuse me if I have a major problem with him.

It's fine to have a major problem with the premier. It just makes no sense that this particular topic is the reason or contributes to the reason you dislike him.

With regards to the expired ID. People have addressed it earlier in this thread. It can easily be shared with younger siblings or friends who look alike. And while the ID was valid at a time and does show your birthdate, it needs to be current so that they can compare it to how you look to confirm that it's actually YOUR ID. It's not a question of its validity, its a question of its ownership.

And your statement that once a cashier's done his/her job they don't care what happens, I doubt that applies to everyone. Some people are actually concerned with minors have unfettered access to alcohol. It's sort of the reason that we have age of majority laws.

And seriously, pulling out the "you're just arguing for the sake of arguing" comment is just weak. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 06, 2012, 08:25:28 AM
It's fine to have a major problem with the premier. It just makes no sense that this particular topic is the reason or contributes to the reason you dislike him.
So? I won't be losing sleep knowing you don't think it makes any sense to dislike the premier.
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With regards to the expired ID. People have addressed it earlier in this thread. It can easily be shared with younger siblings or friends who look alike. And while the ID was valid at a time and does show your birthdate, it needs to be current so that they can compare it to how you look to confirm that it's actually YOUR ID. It's not a question of its validity, its a question of its ownership.
Great! Again, I was trying to give answers to Nik and J-Ho, but apparently you think you can speak for all cashiers.
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And your statement that once a cashier's done his/her job they don't care what happens, I doubt that applies to everyone. Some people are actually concerned with minors have unfettered access to alcohol. It's sort of the reason that we have age of majority laws.
See above.

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And seriously, pulling out the "you're just arguing for the sake of arguing" comment is just weak. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them.

Wow, you really are missing the point to a message board eh? Generally if you don't like what you are reading, you can answer with an intelligent well thought out rebuttal or you know, ignore it altogether. I see you can't help yourself in getting personal. I'll do and say what I please under the rules of this site, without giving a rats butt what you think. 
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: BMan on September 06, 2012, 08:33:17 AM
I've never voted for him or his party. It's the idea of citing as one of your issues with him and his government something that, as far as I know, is true everywhere. I don't know of a single place in the world where expired pieces of ID can still be used as ID. My passport, which is issued federally, can't be used to identify myself if it's expired. Do you think that's a similar example of Harper's mismanagement?

No, overall it makes no sense, no matter who is in power federally or provincially, but, rules are made to be changed when new governments come into power. That's why they get elected, not to be lied to. And I know they are all full of beans, so don't think I am naive to believe it's just McGuinty. 

I am interested to learn how you could possibly know how every jurisdiction in the world has the same rules in place for expired IDs though.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on September 06, 2012, 10:00:42 AM
I am interested to learn how you could possibly know how every jurisdiction in the world has the same rules in place for expired IDs though.

Well, that's why I said "as far as I know" and limited it to my scope of knowledge. If there's a place in the world where it is valid I'd love to find out where.

Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 06, 2012, 10:34:36 AM
Sigh.

I'm sorry WIGWAL, if I came off as snarky or whatever, that wasn't the intention. I was going for incredulous, but I forgot you don't live in Ontario.

Truly?!! You can ONLY renew the thing online where you live? Holy crap what about people who don't have computers! That's *almost* as bad as here. wow (that's incredulous, too)

No need for apologies, we're all friends here.

As for the renewal, it's either online or go to the DMV during business hours, when most people have work or try Saturday when you are guaranteed at least a few hour wait outside in the California sun.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on September 06, 2012, 01:17:38 PM
It's fine to have a major problem with the premier. It just makes no sense that this particular topic is the reason or contributes to the reason you dislike him.
So? I won't be losing sleep knowing you don't think it makes any sense to dislike the premier.
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With regards to the expired ID. People have addressed it earlier in this thread. It can easily be shared with younger siblings or friends who look alike. And while the ID was valid at a time and does show your birthdate, it needs to be current so that they can compare it to how you look to confirm that it's actually YOUR ID. It's not a question of its validity, its a question of its ownership.
Great! Again, I was trying to give answers to Nik and J-Ho, but apparently you think you can speak for all cashiers.
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And your statement that once a cashier's done his/her job they don't care what happens, I doubt that applies to everyone. Some people are actually concerned with minors have unfettered access to alcohol. It's sort of the reason that we have age of majority laws.
See above.

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And seriously, pulling out the "you're just arguing for the sake of arguing" comment is just weak. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them.

Wow, you really are missing the point to a message board eh? Generally if you don't like what you are reading, you can answer with an intelligent well thought out rebuttal or you know, ignore it altogether. I see you can't help yourself in getting personal. I'll do and say what I please under the rules of this site, without giving a rats butt what you think.

Unlike you, I will make the choice to continue to respond in a civil way. I'm not sure I fully understand the reasoning behind you becoming upset or aggressive.

I wasn't suggesting your dislike of the premier is sensible or nonsensical, but rather that disliking him over this particular issue doesn't make sense. This is because the premier has had zero influence on this issue.

Secondly, I did not in any way suggesting I was speaking on behalf of all cashiers. In fact, if you reread the portion of my response that you quoted, you'll see it says: "I doubt that applies to everyone" and "some people." It doesn't say "I doubt that applies to anyone" and "all people" as you seem to be implying.

I find it ironic that you're chastising me for apparently not either providing "an intelligent well thought out rebuttal" or for staying out of the conversation, yet it doesn't really appear as though yours was particularly well thought out.

And honestly, that's not really important to me. On a discussion board, particularly one that I frequent for leisure and enjoyment, I prefer a relaxed, casual conversation to scholarly debates.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bender on September 06, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
Just wanted to say thank you for the +5 Karma. I don't know why but I appreciate it :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 06, 2012, 03:30:10 PM
you're welcome.

And I'm sad. I see I've lost a couple karma :-(

I'm gonna go pat my dog now........
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 08, 2012, 02:15:40 AM
Saw the Zac Brown Band tonight...the best concert I've ever seen!
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 08, 2012, 09:24:25 AM
Saw the Zac Brown Band tonight...the best concert I've ever seen!

Nice, they have some pretty good music, glad to hear they put on a great concert!
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Post by: Damian on September 09, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Saw the Zac Brown Band tonight...the best concert I've ever seen!

Ever?
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Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 09, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Saw the Zac Brown Band tonight...the best concert I've ever seen!

Ever?

Ever! They are SO talented its ridiculous.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 10, 2012, 01:14:53 PM
So one of my best friends just named his newborn son after me.

Surprisingly, it feels like one of the biggest honors I've ever been given, got a little misty when he told me.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 10, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
awwwww congrats! Imagine that, a child named WIGWAL  ;D
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Post by: Darryl on September 10, 2012, 02:12:20 PM
So one of my best friends just named his newborn son after me.

Surprisingly, it feels like one of the biggest honors I've ever been given, got a little misty when he told me.

That's a nice story. Though Stinky is a weird name for a kid.
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Post by: Sarge on September 10, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
That's cool man. Is that 'cause he kind of looks like you?  :o
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 10, 2012, 03:01:08 PM
Bunch of jokers up in here.

Smite! lol

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Post by: bustaheims on September 10, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
That's cool man. Is that 'cause he kind of looks like you?  :o

I was thinking the other way around - it's to make WIGWAL less angry when his next kid looks just like his buddy.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 10, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
That's cool man. Is that 'cause he kind of looks like you?  :o

I was thinking the other way around - it's to make WIGWAL less angry when his next kid looks just like his buddy.

Dude, if he can knock my wife up from 7000 miles away I am simply going to applaud.
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Post by: Potvin29 on September 19, 2012, 10:07:45 PM
Don't know where this would be most appropriate, but anyways:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/564382_349194215168266_1366373602_n.jpg)
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Post by: Sarge on September 20, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
24 hrs. complete into having to work 48 hrs. in a 64 hr span. Fading, but I think I can.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 20, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Yikes, I've been awake for over a day and still have four hours of work left.

I feel your pain sir, you're hardcore.
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Post by: Sarge on September 20, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
Have you been awake by choice? If so, you're the hardcore one. Me? I owe someone the shifts so I'm just murdering them all at once.  :-\

I really should be trying to power nap when I can.
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 20, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Have you been awake by choice? If so, you're the hardcore one. Me? I owe someone the shifts so I'm just murdering them all at once.  :-\

I really should be trying to power nap when I can.
Yes and no, it started out as optional and then the insomnia kicked in and a I had to power through.
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Post by: Sarge on September 20, 2012, 02:47:31 PM
Well, good luck with your 4 hrs... I've got 7 left today, I'll get a few hrs. sleep tonight (I hope) and then need to do 16 more... Then I sleep like the dead tomorrow night... If the kids will let me.  :-\
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Post by: Sarge on September 22, 2012, 11:45:42 AM
I did it!... Somehow managed to not sleep well last night though. Today's is going to be a wasted day. Don't plan on doing more than a load of laundry and having a hot shower. 
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 22, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Well done sir, I've just about recovered too, staying up later than I should last night playing with my new Iphone was not the best move though. ;D
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Post by: Sarge on September 23, 2012, 09:41:03 AM
Left my ipod in my pants and washed them. - It still works.   :)
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Post by: Bullfrog on September 23, 2012, 11:24:05 AM
Which is why I won't complain it's sealed so tightly that I can't get to the battery. :)
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on September 24, 2012, 12:39:36 PM
Yeah I've done that before, submerging in a big bag of rice sucked all the moisture right out of it and it worked like a charm.
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Post by: Peter D. on September 24, 2012, 09:31:39 PM
Watching the Leafs vs. Red Wings series from '93 made me think:

- I'm starting to really miss hockey;
- Seeing MLG brings back a lot of memories, including childhood ones;
- I've never seen an arena's lighting translate as well on TV as that of MLG;
- Potvin still is my favorite Leaf goalie of all time; and
- Playoff hockey and the excitement you bring -- oh how we miss you!
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Post by: Stebro on September 28, 2012, 11:41:08 AM
Weird thing happend to me today. This girl walks up to me and asks for money, and I say no, and she looks in a weird way at me, then she grabbed me between my legs, so I hit her on the arm, and she walked away.  ???
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Post by: Damian on September 28, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
This time tomorrow, Guinness in Galway... Slainte
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Post by: OldTimeHockey on September 28, 2012, 04:25:53 PM
Weird thing happend to me today. This girl walks up to me and asks for money, and I say no, and she looks in a weird way at me, then she grabbed me between my legs, so I hit her on the arm, and she walked away.  ???

A street walker lacking confidence?

"Will you give me money to touch you between your legs?"

"No"

Grabs Crotch

"How bout now?"
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Post by: Sarge on October 07, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST01bZJPuE0[/youtube]
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Post by: Sarge on October 10, 2012, 11:15:41 AM
TMZ ‏@TMZ
Alex Karras Dies -- 'Blazing Saddles' Star Dead at 77 http://tmz.me/VPu2Ge

R.I.P. 'Mongo.'
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Post by: mc on October 12, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Couldn't figure out where to ask this lol

Which game is this on Android?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VdsMwGWvhO4#t=357s
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 12, 2012, 06:57:06 PM
Temple Run
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Post by: Bender on October 12, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
Temple Run

Overrated.
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Post by: mc on October 12, 2012, 07:26:21 PM
Temple Run

Thanks a bunch
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Post by: bustaheims on October 12, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
Temple Run

Overrated.

I don't know. It's kinda fun. Not the best game, sure, but, still worth the price (being that it's free).
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Post by: Bender on October 13, 2012, 02:44:20 AM
Temple Run

Overrated.

I don't know. It's kinda fun. Not the best game, sure, but, still worth the price (being that it's free).

It's alright for a free game, but it's just talked about a lot.
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Post by: Joe S. on October 13, 2012, 05:09:28 PM
Weird thing happend to me today. This girl walks up to me and asks for money, and I say no, and she looks in a weird way at me, then she grabbed me between my legs, so I hit her on the arm, and she walked away.  ???

Funny... That's exactly how I met my wife.
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Post by: Sarge on October 14, 2012, 10:04:41 AM
Just learning of the Amanda Todd story. Just heartbreaking. May she rest in peace.
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 14, 2012, 12:51:23 PM
Very sad indeed.  :(
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Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2012, 01:15:21 PM
Why am I so fascinated with watching some dude dive from 120k feet?
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Post by: Damian on October 14, 2012, 06:33:16 PM
Weird thing happend to me today. This girl walks up to me and asks for money, and I say no, and she looks in a weird way at me, then she grabbed me between my legs, so I hit her on the arm, and she walked away.  ???

Funny... That's exactly how I met my wife.

Funnier still? Thats how I met her as well.... ;) jk.... you did tee that one up you must admit
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Post by: Joe S. on October 14, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
Why am I so fascinated with watching some dude dive from 120k feet?

I'm I alone in thinking this dive was bs? I only saw one video of him free falling and it was this horrible shot from far away... No pov camera? I find that hard to believe...

I dunno I could be wrong but this just didn't seem real to me. Even that lego guy had a camera.
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Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
I'm I alone in thinking this dive was bs? I only saw one video of him free falling and it was this horrible shot from far away... No pov camera? I find that hard to believe...

I dunno I could be wrong but this just didn't seem real to me. Even that lego guy had a camera.

It does seem a little weird that they made a point of making sure he activated his on suit cameras as part of the checklist, but didn't broadcast anything from them.
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Post by: Joe S. on October 14, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
I'm I alone in thinking this dive was bs? I only saw one video of him free falling and it was this horrible shot from far away... No pov camera? I find that hard to believe...

I dunno I could be wrong but this just didn't seem real to me. Even that lego guy had a camera.

It does seem a little weird that they made a point of making sure he activated his on suit cameras as part of the checklist, but didn't broadcast anything from them.

I just don't believe this actually happened... I'm no physicist but something isn't adding up here...

Were there any media there? Or just the 'redbull' mission control?

680 news was reporting on it this morning, and they were only playing audio clips that were on the youtube feed...
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Post by: bustaheims on October 15, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
Here's some of the POV footage from the jump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNmyZ3eT_8
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Post by: Sarge on October 15, 2012, 06:52:01 PM
Nothing like a failed suicide attempt sponsored by an energy drink. 
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Post by: Sarge on October 15, 2012, 06:57:06 PM
Also, how sad is it that Red Bull has a bigger space program than Canada?
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Post by: bustaheims on October 15, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
Also, how sad is it that Red Bull has a bigger space program than Canada?

Pfft. I'd like to see Red Bull build a Canadarm.
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Post by: Sarge on October 15, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Also, how sad is it that Red Bull has a bigger space program than Canada?

Pfft. I'd like to see Red Bull build a Canadarm.

What's to become of that anyway? 
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Post by: bustaheims on October 15, 2012, 07:31:03 PM
What's to become of that anyway?

The original is retired. A newer one is on the International Space Station.
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Post by: Sarge on October 15, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
What's to become of that anyway?

The original is retired. A newer one is on the International Space Station.

Ah, currently being used by Russian cosmonauts to "crush" the earth no doubt.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwlAvsPvPfg[/youtube] 
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Post by: OldTimeHockey on October 15, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
Weird thing happend to me today. This girl walks up to me and asks for money, and I say no, and she looks in a weird way at me, then she grabbed me between my legs, so I hit her on the arm, and she walked away.  ???

Funny... That's exactly how I met my wife.

That's worth a standing ovation!
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Post by: Joe S. on October 15, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
Here's some of the POV footage from the jump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNmyZ3eT_8

Thanks. It would be cool to see the whole jump if that footage exists
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Post by: bustaheims on October 15, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
Thanks. It would be cool to see the whole jump if that footage exists

I imagine it does, but, Red Bull is obviously waiting for the right money making/PR opportunity to release it.
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Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 15, 2012, 10:56:27 PM
I was fascinated by the jump
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Post by: Bender on October 17, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere, but this is just ridiculously funny. I love republicans.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/article/1272648---binders-full-of-women-mitt-romney-s-debate-comment-goes-viral
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Post by: Damian on October 17, 2012, 05:34:10 PM
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere, but this is just ridiculously funny. I love republicans.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/article/1272648---binders-full-of-women-mitt-romney-s-debate-comment-goes-viral

Yeh, this whole thing is riduculous, yet this dude still has credibility... go figure
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Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 21, 2012, 10:19:59 AM
I went to hang a clock last night and when putting the dry wall anchor into the wall, it just made a hole, I used a screw driver and not a drill, would this be the reason for the hole and the anchor coming loose right away?
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Post by: Bullfrog on October 21, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
What type of anchor did you use? If it's a typical plastic anchor that plugs into the hole, you made the hole too big. It should tell you on the package what size drill bit to use for the anchor.

Also, did you use the screw that came with the anchor?
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Post by: Sarge on October 26, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Bears rule!

I'm so cheap.
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 26, 2012, 01:58:42 PM
Bears rule!

I'm so cheap.
that should be a small B bears, Sarge......don't want anyone to think I'm a fan of the Chicago NFL franchise.
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Post by: Sarge on October 26, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
I didn't say The Bears. I was (maybe not so obviously) simply referring to the cuddliest, most special, awesomest (almost human really) mammals on this planet.

I feel like I should be on a corner swinging a purse.   
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Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 26, 2012, 02:06:36 PM
I didn't say The Bears. I was (maybe not so obviously) simply referring to the cuddliest, most special, awesomest (almost human really) mammals on this planet.

I feel like I should be on a corner swinging a purse.
Yay!

and LOL! it's not a PURSE, it's a satchel.

Applause awarded.
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Post by: Sarge on November 02, 2012, 07:45:23 PM
Odd question... and sorry to sound like "Sheldon" here but the social convention when going to someones home for dinner is to bring wine as most people enjoy it (as do I.) Something I haven't done before is bring a spirit that I really enjoy (with the hope that others also might) instead. 

Too risky? 
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Post by: bustaheims on November 02, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Odd question... and sorry to sound like "Sheldon" here but the social convention when going to someones home for dinner is to bring wine as most people enjoy it (as do I.) Something I haven't done before is bring a spirit that I really enjoy (with the hope that others also might) instead. 

Too risky?

Part of the reason wine is the convention is that it's often used at the meal, but, I mean, depending on how well you know the hosts . . .
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Post by: Sarge on November 02, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
I was thinking of something that would go nicely with most desserts but again, I'm not sure if that would be viewed as somewhat (for want of better word) imposing?

I don't know the hosts that well (wife's boss, his wife, and other guests.) 
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Post by: bustaheims on November 03, 2012, 02:26:58 AM
I was thinking of something that would go nicely with most desserts but again, I'm not sure if that would be viewed as somewhat (for want of better word) imposing?

I don't know the hosts that well (wife's boss, his wife, and other guests.)

My suggestion would be to stick to something more conventional then.
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Post by: Derk on November 03, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
I was thinking of something that would go nicely with most desserts but again, I'm not sure if that would be viewed as somewhat (for want of better word) imposing?

I don't know the hosts that well (wife's boss, his wife, and other guests.)

My suggestion would be to stick to something more conventional then.

I would agree with this. You can always bring the other drink along as well and bring it up in conversation before bringing it out. Of course, this depends entirely on whether you have both bottles that you'd like to share - not everyone wants to go out and buy a couple bottles for a dinner party. :)
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Post by: Sarge on November 03, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Vino it is!
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Post by: Bender on November 03, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
Am I the only person on earth that likes both Vermouth and Black Licorice? (not together of course).
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Post by: TheMightyOdin on November 18, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
Hostess has filed for bankruptcy and are laying off over 18,000 employees.

No more twinkies or wonder bread or cup cakes in the future... At least not of the Hostess variety.

Even thou they are not part of my diet today they were a part of my youth and it will be Kind of strange to see them disappear.
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Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
Twinkies were supposed to survive... Everything.
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Post by: L K on November 18, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
Hostess has filed for bankruptcy and are laying off over 18,000 employees.

No more twinkies or wonder bread or cup cakes in the future... At least not of the Hostess variety.

Even thou they are not part of my diet today they were a part of my youth and it will be Kind of strange to see them disappear.

Here's what is going to happen.  The company goes through bankruptcy, they sell off a good chunk of the company to friends, get decent payouts, some of the executives will stay on with the new brand and they will continue to sell Twinkies.

It's a union busting maneuver partially.
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Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2012, 08:25:12 PM
Yeah, Twinkie lovers relax.  :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/11/18/hostess-bankruptcy-twinkies_n_2156051.html
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Post by: L K on November 18, 2012, 08:29:07 PM
It should be made pretty clear that Hostess is a Texas based company.  Of all the US states, Texas is pretty much the leader in having minimum wage employees.  They seem to like to make absolutely no money down there...or at least tolerate it.
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Post by: Potvin29 on November 18, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
It's a union busting maneuver partially.

And, if this story is true, not like they took the Union members' self-paid pension money to pay their debts or anything....

Quote
In July of 2011 we received a letter from the company. It said that the $3+ per hour that we as a Union contribute to the pension was going to be 'borrowed' by the company until they could be profitable again. Then they would pay it all back. The Union was notified of this the same time and method as the individual members. No contact from the company to the Union on a national level.

This money will never be paid back. The company filed for bankruptcy and the judge ruled that the $3+ per hour was a debt the company couldn't repay. The Union continued to work despite this theft of our self-funded pension contributions for over a year. I consider this money stolen. No other word in the English language describes what they have done to this money.

After securing our hourly cash from the bankruptcy judge they set out on getting approval to force a new contract on us. They had already refused to negotiate outside of court. They received approval from the judge to impose the contract then turned it over to the Union for a vote. You read that right, they got it approved by the judge before ever showing to the Union.

What was this last/best/final offer? You'd never know by watching the main stream media tell the story. So here you go...
1) 8% hourly pay cut in year 1 with additional cuts totaling 27% over 5 years. Currently, I make $16.12 an hour at TOP rate of pay in the bakery. I would drop to $11.26 in 5 years.
2) They get to keep our $3+ an hour forever.
3) Doubling of weekly insurance premium.
4) Lowering of overall quality of insurance plan.
5) TOTAL withdrawal from ALL pensions. If you don't have it now then you never will.

Remember how I said I made $48,000 in 2005 and $34,000 last year? I would make $25,000 in 5 years if I took their offer.
It will be hard to replace the job I had, but it will be easy to replace the job they were trying to give me.
That $3+ per hour they steal totaled $50 million last year that they never paid us. They sold $2.5 BILLION in product last year. If they can't make this profitable without stealing my money then good riddance.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/18/1162786/-Inside-the-Hostess-Bankery
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Post by: Nik the Trik on November 19, 2012, 09:44:09 AM
Here's what is going to happen.  The company goes through bankruptcy, they sell off a good chunk of the company to friends, get decent payouts, some of the executives will stay on with the new brand and they will continue to sell Twinkies.

It's a union busting maneuver partially.

Good ol' union bullying.
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Post by: RedLeaf on November 19, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
Am I the only person on earth that likes both Vermouth and Black Licorice? (not together of course).

No. Big blk licorice fan. The saltier the better. I buy the y&s cigar boxes at costco all the time.

Vermouth? Will have to give it another try. You like Drambuie?
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Post by: Bender on November 19, 2012, 12:17:47 PM
Am I the only person on earth that likes both Vermouth and Black Licorice? (not together of course).

No. Big blk licorice fan. The saltier the better. I buy the y&s cigar boxes at costco all the time.

Vermouth? Will have to give it another try. You like Drambuie?

I tried triple salted blk licorice on Queen St. last year. Salty as all hell, but weirdly delicious.

I drink Stock Vermouth, pretty good. Ernest Hemingway's effect on me haha. But it's also good to take the edge off of straight Whiskey. Manhattan's are pretty nice!
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on November 19, 2012, 12:27:03 PM
I'm all about Old Fashioneds right now. Traditional bourbon ones are great but made with a premium dark rum, they're outstanding.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: RedLeaf on November 20, 2012, 09:00:27 PM
What will he charge to use it?

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2012/11/20/20372266.html
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Justin on November 20, 2012, 10:16:14 PM
What will he charge to use it?

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2012/11/20/20372266.html
Love this story. Imagine him showing it to his friends.

"TIE DOMI AND MATS SUNDIN SAT ON THIS TOILET I TELL YOU! BORSCHEVSKY TOO!"
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 01, 2012, 11:29:12 AM
No hockey makes tmlfans.ca go something something...
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Ronco on December 04, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
TV Okay. You wanna watch TV, my wife changes the living room so much that i have had the TV on every wall in the room.
I am up to putting wheels on the thing so she an move it from wall to wall.




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Post by: Stebro on December 16, 2012, 10:47:45 AM
Does anyone know if there's like a text-version of a dictaphone? Where you can just type in text? I know that there are electronical notebooks, but im not sure if they have keyboards on the screen or not. I don't want to waste money on a tablet-pc just for the sake of being able to type. My cell has limitations when it comes to comments. I need this for songwriting. I need like a small thing I can bring along, and just type on. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on December 17, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
This isn't "useless" at all but perhaps this is the best thread... This is a project we were/are involved with... May I ask for all of you to view and pass along via whatever social media you can? It'll cost you nothing.

Robert Little ‏@arrrlittle
Pls share. The more views, the more $ to Sick Kids! Brain Power Studio: Frosty the Snowman for Sick Kids: http://youtu.be/TKqo0sarpAM  via @youtube

... many thanks.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on December 18, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
I weep for humanity when I read YouTube or Facebook comments.
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Post by: Damian on December 19, 2012, 12:00:35 AM
I weep for humanity when I read YouTube or Facebook comments.

No kidding right? I thought it was just me.... it happens on almost any page when the author states an opinion or idea.... some people are just stupid... thats all I got...
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Post by: TheMightyOdin on December 19, 2012, 10:59:50 PM
I weep for humanity when I read YouTube or Facebook comments.

No kidding right? I thought it was just me.... it happens on almost any page when the author states an opinion or idea.... some people are just stupid... thats all I got...


Xbox live is way more disturbing.
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on December 20, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
Second and final request... Thanks folks.

Robert Little ‏@arrrlittle
Pls share. The more views, the more $ to Sick Kids! Brain Power Studio: Frosty the Snowman for Sick Kids: http://youtu.be/TKqo0sarpAM  via @youtube
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 20, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
that's beautiful Sarge!

shared and watched and shared :)
Title: Re: Useless Thread
Post by: Sarge on December 21, 2012, 07:27:57 AM
Thanks, LHF... Greatly appreciated and a Merry Christmas to 'ya.
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Post by: Stebro on December 21, 2012, 10:37:22 AM
looking for more members to the league I'm in...

Link (http://hhhockey.net)

Come on and join :)
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Post by: Nik the Trik on December 21, 2012, 12:58:01 PM

Nuts to you, Christmas shopping.
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Post by: Justin on December 23, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
(http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/festivus2.jpg)
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Post by: Sarge on December 24, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
To everyone here and your families, have a wonderful whatever you celebrate, and if you've already celebrated, well, no reason to stop! Be safe.

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Post by: Sarge on December 24, 2012, 11:34:39 AM
Mods: Ooops I suppose the above needs a boost to the Merry Christmas thread.  :-\
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Post by: Stebro on December 28, 2012, 11:38:16 AM
anyone playing guild wars 2?
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Post by: Bender on December 28, 2012, 12:33:28 PM