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Title: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 20, 2018, 08:35:40 AM

Oh my god why haha. Get the highest possible return you can get for Karlsson and worry about Ryan later.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 20, 2018, 08:43:50 AM
Oh my god why haha. Get the highest possible return you can get for Karlsson and worry about Ryan later.

Well, the easy answer there is that they think clearing Ryan's cap number is a big part of "the highest possible return". But even beyond that I wonder how much Karlsson will realistically cost if the team that trades for him then has to decide whether or not to pay him 11 or 12 million per season. He's a good player, and worth a lot, but there is sort of a catch 22 where any young player that would be considered a good return for him and is affordable may be a more attractive option.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 20, 2018, 08:49:46 AM
Well, the easy answer there is that they think clearing Ryan's cap number is a big part of "the highest possible return". But even beyond that I wonder how much Karlsson will realistically cost if the team that trades for him then has to decide whether or not to pay him 11 or 12 million per season. He's a good player, and worth a lot, but there is sort of a catch 22 where any young player that would be considered a good return for him and is affordable may be a more attractive option.

For me, I think Karlsson's true value comes as a semi-rental. You trade for him right now and you've got two playoff runs with a generational player at almost half what his AAV should be.

Tampa's name has been the one thrown around the most. How much would they pay to get two shots at the Cup with Stamkos-Kucherov-Hedman-Karlsson-Vasilevskiy?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 20, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
Tampa's name has been the one thrown around the most. How much would they pay to get two shots at the Cup with Stamkos-Kucherov-Hedman-Karlsson-Vasilevskiy?

I don't know but in a way that's sort of my point. I assume Sergachev would be part of the ask, the main part, and then beyond that...Point? A couple firsts? A prospect like Foote? What's the return for Ottawa that makes you say "wow, what a good return" while not doing serious damage to Tampa's depth for those cup runs?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 20, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
Oh my god why haha. Get the highest possible return you can get for Karlsson and worry about Ryan later.

Attaching Ryan to any potential Karlsson deal makes it pretty clear they don't have a ton of interest in moving Karlsson.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 20, 2018, 09:22:07 AM
I don't know but in a way that's sort of my point. I assume Sergachev would be part of the ask, the main part, and then beyond that...Point? A couple firsts? A prospect like Foote? What's the return for Ottawa that makes you say "wow, what a good return" while not doing serious damage to Tampa's depth for those cup runs?

I imagine an offer would be built around one of Sergachev or Point, and then picks and prospects thrown in after that. It'll be a big haul but after that one main part the trade will look like quantity over quality. For the very reasons that you've suggested. I can't imagine sens fans will be happy with what they get back. There's only going to be a handful of teams that will either a) feel comfortable acquiring him as a rental or b) have the salary cap structure to be able to offer him a mega deal once his current one expires.

It's sort of a similar situation we were in with Kessel, but their Ryan ask would be like if we demanded whoever acquired Kessel took Horton on as well.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 20, 2018, 09:36:16 AM
It's sort of a similar situation we were in with Kessel, but their Ryan ask would be like if we demanded whoever acquired Kessel took Horton on as well.

Well, yeah, except if Kessel had been in high demand and the Leafs had a lot of teams to play off each other. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm just saying that in your hypothetical package those "picks and prospects" may not be as valuable to Ottawa as shedding Ryan's contract. Obviously getting someone to agree to that would be a tall order but you can't blame Ottawa for trying to shoot the moon.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 20, 2018, 09:48:13 AM
Well, yeah, except if Kessel had been in high demand and the Leafs had a lot of teams to play off each other. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm just saying that in your hypothetical package those "picks and prospects" may not be as valuable to Ottawa as shedding Ryan's contract. Obviously getting someone to agree to that would be a tall order but you can't blame Ottawa for trying to shoot the moon.

Valuable in what sense though? Shedding Ryan's contract isn't going to help their hockey team in any way. They aren't going to be anywhere close to the cap in the next few seasons if they're trading Karlsson and Hoffman and god knows what else. They'll be rebuilding. They may as well keep him around for another couple of seasons while that happens and then try shedding the contract when there's less term on it.

Trying to package Karlsson and Ryan just screams like a penny-pinching move by Melynk. They'll be giving up potential picks and prospects just so he doesn't have to pay Ryan's cheques.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 20, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
Trying to package Karlsson and Ryan just screams like a penny-pinching move by Melynk. They'll be giving up potential picks and prospects just so he doesn't have to pay Ryan's cheques.

To me, that perfectly encapsulates what Melnyk would do and why.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 20, 2018, 10:10:58 AM
Valuable in what sense though? Shedding Ryan's contract isn't going to help their hockey team in any way.

Well, I know this doesn't really track much with Leafs fans but teams with internal caps have a situation where every dollar they spend on guys who aren't helping the team is a dollar they can't spend on someone who would, no matter what the league cap is. If you shed Ryan's contract then they'd have 7 million bucks to use. Also, they could then use that money in the short term to take one year bad contracts and add picks/prospects that way. Considering the picks/prospects from Tampa are likely to not be great/low round picks and they'll probably be drowning in picks/prospects anyway, freeing up some money that they can actually spend would be another avenue to building the team back up.

Trying to package Karlsson and Ryan just screams like a penny-pinching move by Melynk. They'll be giving up potential picks and prospects just so he doesn't have to pay Ryan's cheques.

Well, yeah.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 21, 2018, 05:01:42 PM
This is sensational stuff.


When's the Oiler one?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Frank E on February 21, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
This is sensational stuff.


When's the Oiler one?

I don't think that article is any good at all.  It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 21, 2018, 06:33:39 PM
This is sensational stuff.


When's the Oiler one?

I don't think that article is any good at all.  It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.

You could also look into how much access Yost has to the sens organization and draw what conclusions you'd like to from that. Most of the statements in that post are pretty verifiable.

This also happened.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 21, 2018, 08:01:31 PM
I don't think that article is any good at all.  It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.

I'm curious which part of it you have a problem with. I'd say first that Yost isn't claiming that he has some sort of inside source feeding him all this information. It's clear it's just the thoughts of a fan/follower (I mean there's a reason he posted it on his tumblr and not on TSN where he writes). But I think it's a paints a pretty accurate picture of what's been going on with Karlsson and the sens in the past year or two.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 21, 2018, 08:24:42 PM
I'm curious which part of it you have a problem with. I'd say first that Yost isn't claiming that he has some sort of inside source feeding him all this information. It's clear it's just the thoughts of a fan/follower (I mean there's a reason he posted it on his tumblr and not on TSN where he writes). But I think it's a paints a pretty accurate picture of what's been going on with Karlsson and the sens in the past year or two.

Yeah, that arguments he makes are very plausible - and, given his connections, I tend to believe him (especially since he's not trying to blow sunshine up people's asses). I think he's probably right - if Melnyk still owns the sens moving forward, Karlsson is playing somewhere else next season.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 21, 2018, 08:29:51 PM
Yeah, that arguments he makes are very plausible - and, given his connections, I tend to believe him (especially since he's not trying to blow sunshine up people's asses). I think he's probably right - if Melnyk still owns the sens moving forward, Karlsson is playing somewhere else next season.

One thing the article didn't mention was the Olympics issue. Melynk was one of the most vocal owners in terms of not wanting to let players go and Karlsson was probably one of the most vocal players for it. Now, Melynk himself wouldn't have changed the NHL's decision there in any way, but that was when I first started to think that there might be a rift beginning there. Especially since Melynk weirdly made that comment about saying he's maybe let Karlsson go if he was Canadian.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 21, 2018, 08:32:28 PM
I'm very comfortable in saying that if Karlsson leaves Ottawa it's like at least 90% because of Melnyk.

edit: Sorry, I meant to say when.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 21, 2018, 08:34:30 PM
Karlsson is no doubt a smart fellow and he can see that his owner is a borderline nutcase, kind of a downmarket Ballard.  That can't be helping.

The problem for buyers is that there's no way to know if his dropoff this year is due to a no-heal heel or just the general sensishness of the sens.

EDIT: Dammit Carlton quit pre-channeling me.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 21, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
Karlsson is no doubt a smart fellow and he can see that his owner is a borderline nutcase, kind of a downmarket Ballard.  That can't be helping.

Borderline?

The problem for buyers is that there's no way to know if his dropoff this year is due to a no-heal heel or just the general sensishness of the sens.

Honestly, I think the idea that he's dropped off is getting over-stated. Sure, his numbers aren't where we've come to expect them to be, but they're still very very good - he's putting up a 63 point pace on a tire fire of a team, and after missing training camp and the beginning of the season. Factor in that it's quite likely he's very unhappy about his current situation, and, well, I'm confident saying he's still the same Erik Karlsson who's carried his team offensively the previous 4 seasons. While his heel may not be quite 100%, it's not having the impact people are attributing to it - and we'll see that when he's playing somewhere else in October.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 21, 2018, 08:57:20 PM
Karlsson is no doubt a smart fellow and he can see that his owner is a borderline nutcase, kind of a downmarket Ballard.  That can't be helping.

Borderline?

The problem for buyers is that there's no way to know if his dropoff this year is due to a no-heal heel or just the general sensishness of the sens.

Honestly, I think the idea that he's dropped off is getting over-stated. Sure, his numbers aren't where we've come to expect them to be, but they're still very very good - he's putting up a 63 point pace on a tire fire of a team, and after missing training camp and the beginning of the season. Factor in that it's quite likely he's very unhappy about his current situation, and, well, I'm confident saying he's still the same Erik Karlsson who's carried his team offensively the previous 4 seasons. While his heel may not be quite 100%, it's not having the impact people are attributing to it - and we'll see that when he's playing somewhere else in October.

I'm inoculating myself against possible libel actions here.

Well, the thing about any team that trades for him now is that they get 2 playoffs runs on his bargain deal, so there's plenty of time for them to have a look and see whether there truly is a dropoff or not.  The problem is that there seem to be very few clubs who are on the cusp and who have the assets to swing it.  Aside from TB, who's out there?  NSH doesn't need him, WSH probably doesn't have the assets, and ... ?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 21, 2018, 09:00:52 PM
Well, the thing about any team that trades for him now is that they get 2 playoffs runs on his bargain deal, so there's plenty of time for them to have a look and see whether there truly is a dropoff or not.  The problem is that there seem to be very few clubs who are on the cusp and who have the assets to swing it.  Aside from TB, who's out there?  NSH doesn't need him, WSH probably doesn't have the assets, and ... ?

I think that's that larger issue, really. There's not that many teams that have the assets and the ability to take advantage of both those seasons (and who Ottawa is willing to deal with - I mean, the Leafs probably have the pieces to get it done, but there's no way Ottawa makes that deal. Imagine he leads the Leafs to a Cup? That would be a nightmare for the Senators' management.) Add in the anchor they're trying to attach to him named Bobby Ryan, and the list of teams willing and able to make the deal might just be zero.

I think the only other team possibly seriously in the mix at the deadline might be Dallas.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Zee on February 21, 2018, 09:08:08 PM
It's fairly crazy that the Sens were a goal away from the Stanley Cup final last season and this season they're looking to trade their franchise defenseman. Where's madferret when you want to point and laugh?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 21, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Vegas is another team that I've seen mentioned with him. That'd be an interesting fit.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 21, 2018, 09:10:45 PM
Vegas is another team that I've seen mentioned with him. That'd be an interesting fit.

Yeah, he'd be a fit there, but I'm not convinced even they believe they'll be able to repeat their success next season. I expect them to stay away from big deals for now.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 21, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
Bobby Mac echoes the Karlsson thoughts for the most part.

https://www.tsn.ca/sens-considering-karlsson-trade-options-1.1006645
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 21, 2018, 11:47:35 PM
That Vegas idea would put a maraschino cherry of crazy on top of their crazy season.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Coco-puffs on February 22, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
Vegas is another team that I've seen mentioned with him. That'd be an interesting fit.

Yeah, he'd be a fit there, but I'm not convinced even they believe they'll be able to repeat their success next season. I expect them to stay away from big deals for now.

Plus I don't think they really have the organizational assets to get a deal done.  It would completely empty their cupboard which is already thin to begin with.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 23, 2018, 01:39:49 PM

Imagine being the third team in this scenario. Seriously, what would it take for a team to take on the Bobby Ryan deal? It couldn't be that much less than what the Sens get for Karlsson himself.

I mean, at best, it would have to involve getting rid of your own terrible contract but even then.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on February 23, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Imagine being the third team in this scenario. Seriously, what would it take for a team to take on the Bobby Ryan deal? It couldn't be that much less than what the Sens get for Karlsson himself.

I mean, at best, it would have to involve getting rid of your own terrible contract but even then.

Yeah. Even if you hope you can help rejuvenate his career, you're still going to ask for quite a bit just to take on that contract for another 4 seasons.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 02:04:49 PM
This trade is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 02:17:21 PM

Somewhat interesting that Yost and Custance got this scoop a minute apart:


Always fun to think of who's leaking this information out there.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 02:25:30 PM

I forgot that happened. Dorion met with the players in the locker room and started ripping them, and then the player started ripping him right back. What a dope.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 02:33:55 PM
Lots of Karlsson talk so far and probably through the weekend if speculation keeps up so I split this off.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 23, 2018, 02:38:41 PM

I can't help but take a little bit of schaedenfreude out of "Teams should win because they have smart front offices, not because they're rich" Sens fans facing up to the reality that, for the first time in about 20 years, their front office might be full of dopes.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 03:45:49 PM

So basically how many 1st rounders will Tampa be giving up here. Three? Four?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 23, 2018, 03:47:30 PM

I forgot that happened. Dorion met with the players in the locker room and started ripping them, and then the player started ripping him right back. What a dope.

Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 23, 2018, 03:48:34 PM
Is Tampa/Ottawa trying to daisy chain out Ryan's contract with 2-3 salary retentions?
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 03:49:41 PM

Holy hell that'd be amazing.

I'm obviously not an old-school person in the slightest, but a GM should absolutely never walk into the locker-room.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2018, 03:51:15 PM
Is Tampa/Ottawa trying to daisy chain out Ryan's contract with 2-3 salary retentions?

Ottawa giving up picks to 2-3 different teams to help them not having to pay Ryan would be the best thing ever.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 23, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
This adventure story needs pictures.

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Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Dappleganger on February 25, 2018, 01:18:40 PM
Up until yesterday I didn't think a Karlsson trade was going to happen at the deadline. Now, it's a possibility. Leafs should be in on him, he's exactly what this team lacks, a number 1 defenseman.

What would you give up for Karlsson? I'll start.

Liljegren + Brown + 2018 1st + 2019 2nd for Erik.

They can have Leivo too if they want.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 25, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
That might get you close, but you'd still need to figure out a way to assassinate Eugene Melnyk in the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 25, 2018, 01:24:40 PM

Easy. High stakes game of connect 4 between the Presidents of Rogers and Bell. Winner gets to buy losers stake in Leafs, loser has to then buy the Sens and trade Karlsson to the Leafs.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 26, 2018, 08:06:12 AM

Amazing haha.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 26, 2018, 08:56:10 AM
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 26, 2018, 08:59:06 AM

I've seen other suggest that this might legitimately be scaring off teams, especially those who are hoping to acquire him and re-sign him to a mega-deal. But for a team like Tampa who is more interested in the next two playoffs runs it would be less of an issue.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 26, 2018, 09:47:17 AM
I'll preface this with I know it's almost 100% certain that the Sens would never move him here, but for talking's sake, what kind of package do you think the Leafs would need to put together?

1st 2018, 2nd 2018, 2nd 2019, Dermott, Rasanen, Brooks, Rosen, Leivo (Gives Ottawa a top 4 dman and middle six forward now and some young depth pieces with some potential growth left, as well as three picks in the top 60.)

Probably not enough marquee names there aside from the 1st and Dermott, maybe add another 1st?

What are your suggestions?

Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 26, 2018, 09:53:34 AM
I'll preface this with I know it's almost 100% certain that the Sens would never move him here, but for talking's sake, what kind of package do you think the Leafs would need to put together?

I said this elsewhere but I genuinely think the Leafs would have to put together a package that included 2 of Nylander, Marner and Liljegren.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 26, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
I'll preface this with I know it's almost 100% certain that the Sens would never move him here, but for talking's sake, what kind of package do you think the Leafs would need to put together?

I said this elsewhere but I genuinely think the Leafs would have to put together a package that included 2 of Nylander, Marner and Liljegren.

You might be right, I'd slap Pierre Dorion in the mouth if he ever suggested something like that though.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 26, 2018, 09:58:37 AM
I said this elsewhere but I genuinely think the Leafs would have to put together a package that included 2 of Nylander, Marner and Liljegren.

Is this because of the Melynk-won't-trade-to-Toronto angle, or do you think that's roughly what Ottawa can expect in a trade? Because I'd be pretty surprised if they get a Nylander/Marner-level player back from wherever he ends up.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 26, 2018, 10:02:46 AM
I said this elsewhere but I genuinely think the Leafs would have to put together a package that included 2 of Nylander, Marner and Liljegren.

Is this because of the Melynk-won't-trade-to-Toronto angle, or do you think that's roughly what Ottawa can expect in a trade? Because I'd be pretty surprised if they get a Nylander/Marner-level player back from wherever he ends up.

More the former but I think it's more that if Karlsson does get moved he's going to get moved for assets(picks and prospects/young players) that are better than what the Leafs have that aren't those three guys. I'd be very surprised if Karlsson got dealt for a package where the primary pieces were a 1st(or even 2 firsts) that figured to be in the 20's and a prospect like Liljegren.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 26, 2018, 11:59:00 AM

If Karlsson doesn't jokingly skate off the ice during practice 3 or 4 times I'm going to be so disappointed.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 26, 2018, 03:07:37 PM

Hah.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on February 26, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
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Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 02, 2018, 10:31:34 PM

Karlsson's last home game of the season. I'm sure that means nothing.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Bullfrog on April 02, 2018, 10:45:20 PM
Just helping clean up. Classiest hockey player I ever knew.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 03, 2018, 12:00:58 PM

TLDR: The sens gave out $10 McDonald's gift cards to some fans yesterday as part of their Fan Appreciation Night but they forgot to activate them so they're just pieces of plastic.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on April 03, 2018, 12:28:31 PM
TLDR: The sens gave out $10 McDonald's gift cards to some fans yesterday as part of their Fan Appreciation Night but they "forgot" to activate them so they're just pieces of plastic.

(https://postmediaottawacitizen2.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/eugene-melnyk-was-all-smiles-after-his-bid-was-chosen-as-the.jpeg)

Wait, does that mean the team already spent money to buy the cards...
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Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: herman on April 03, 2018, 01:21:25 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/the-significance-of-karlsson-picking-up-that-puck-1.1045466

What scorcery is this?
Quote
If you’re into numerology you’ll certainly appreciate the connections between the Ottawa Senators and the number 65.

The Senators are currently sitting with 65 points in the Atlantic Division.

Their goal differential just happens to be -65.

When the players looked up at the scoreboard at the end of Monday night’s final home game at Canadian Tire Centre against the Winnipeg Jets, it only stood to reason that they would see a 6-5 final.

And in perhaps the strangest coincidence of all, Monday’s game marked exactly 65 weeks – to the day – until Erik Karlsson hits free agency on July 1, 2019.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: cabber24 on April 03, 2018, 03:23:22 PM
Not on team plane that's heading out on a 3 game road trip.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: bustaheims on April 03, 2018, 04:59:41 PM
Not on team plane that's heading out on a 3 game road trip.

With three pretty meaningless games left and everything that's gone on in his life recently, I imagine he opted to spend a little more time with his wife. Can't say I blame him.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: Coco-puffs on April 04, 2018, 11:35:25 AM
Not on team plane that's heading out on a 3 game road trip.

With three pretty meaningless games left and everything that's gone on in his life recently, I imagine he opted to spend a little more time with his wife. Can't say I blame him.

I'm sure the Sens management doesn't feel like they need to force the issue either.  Why not dress D-men to evaluate for next year instead and help out your tank by not having one of the best d-men in the lineup.
Title: Re: The adventures of Erik Karlsson
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 12, 2018, 10:51:44 AM

Lol.