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Title: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:45:55 AM
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4-15-3, 11 points | 14-7-0, 28 points

Projected Lines

Perlini-Stepan-Rieder
Keller-Richardson-Fischer
Domi-Dvorak-Rinaldo
Martinook-Cousins-Duclair

OEL-Connauton
Goligoski-Demers
Hanley-Schenn

Raanta
             
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Komarov
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Brown

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Borgman-Carrick

Andersen

Scratches

Mario Kempe
Michael Leighton
      
Josh Leivo
Nikita Soshnikov
Roman Polak

Game Notes

ARI
•Antti Raanta (3-5-2, 3.12 GAA, .907 Sv%) will likely start for the Coyotes
•Arizona is bad.
•Dylan Strome might not be though. The 20-year old is currently torching the AHL with 18 points in 12 games

TOR
•Andersen (12-6-0, 2.87 GAA, .914 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
•Despite winning in Montreal with some new-look lines Babcock said after the game that he would likely revert back to how he started the game. That means on MMM line
•A few Leafs are running hot right now: Kadri has 7 points in his last 6 games, Marner has 6 points in his last 5 games, Rielly has 6 points in his last 6 games, and JVR has 5 points in his last 4 games


Injuries

•Niklas Hjalmarsson - Upper Body - Questionable Monday
•Jakob Chychrun - Knee - Injured Reserve
      
•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:28:27 AM
Thanks, Carlton, for your hard work in putting these together!

- London Knights reunion! Max Domi and Christian Dvorak will likely line up against Marner's line. The camera will pan to Tie Domi, who will certainly be in attendance, on a regular basis.

- Also a mini-reunion for Matthews and Clayton Keller (https://theathletic.com/159526/2017/11/20/pronman-comparing-clayton-keller-to-auston-matthews-and-jack-eichel-its-clear-arizonas-rookie-was-always-elite/), buds from the USNTDP and big fans of each other.

- Another homecoming (of sorts) for Luke Schenn, who, to his credit (and probably is parents' for gifting him with a right-handed shot), is still in the league and playing against the team that drafted him. Look for JvR to turnstile him once again. Watch out though, as Schenn does have 1 G and 1 A in 11 games against us, but is currently riding a 17 game point-less streak and would probably love to break the slump against the team that gave up on him.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on November 20, 2017, 09:30:16 AM
Lines went into the meat grinder mid game against Montreal:

Martin-Matthews-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
Hyman-Marleau-Brown
JVR-Bozak-Moore

Would love to see more Marner-Matthews. It almost makes to much sense putting our best passer with our best shooter. We have the depth to do it considering Marner's been a 4th liner at times this year.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on November 20, 2017, 09:34:05 AM
I will be there tonight! PHX has won two in a row against OTT and MTL so maybe we shouldn't take them so lightly... or maybe OTT and MTL just really suck too.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:47:16 AM
Martin-Matthews-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
Hyman-Marleau-Brown
JVR-Bozak-Moore

Would love to see more Marner-Matthews. It almost makes to much sense putting our best passer with our best shooter. We have the depth to do it considering Marner's been a 4th liner at times this year.

Like Carlton said during the Montreal GDT, these lines do give a good balance of scoring and shutdown lines with scoring potential on all 4. Gives Babcock strong-side faceoff options on all 4 lines too.

I've been saying since early last season that Marner should play with the left-handed centres where possible, and he showed some early magic with Matthews off a great scrum and bump from Martin. It helps him put his body between the defense and the puck and opens up more reception options for him to exploit.

Long-term though, I don't think it'll be Matthews - Marner unless we're chasing a goal and Nylander isn't working for some reason. Matthews and Marner both have the ability to elevate the play around them, and that's way more valuable in creating ridiculous scoring threats up and down the lineup.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: nutman on November 20, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
I agree. good post.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 11:11:17 AM
Predictably, Clayton Kellar news is lighting up:

https://theathletic.com/160755/2017/11/20/lebrun-what-do-the-gms-who-passed-on-clayton-keller-think-today/

Quote
At No. 4, the Oilers took Puljujarvi, which again at the time seemed like a no-brainer. Which is not to say the Oilers didn’t know a talent like Keller was there.

“For us, he (Keller) was in our discussions, but we had a lot of centres, so made a winger a priority,” Oilers GM Peter Chiarelli said Friday. “I mean, his talent was indisputable, it was a little position-based for us.”

Bless this man.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 11:35:27 AM
The camera will pan to Tie Domi,

I never knew until recently that his real name is Tahir.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on November 20, 2017, 11:56:03 AM
I'm taking my 8 year old son to his first Leafs game tonight as a birthday present.  I'm also buying him a Matthews jersey which he doesn't know yet.  :)

It's been a while since I've been downtown TO and I live further away now towards London.  Anyways coming down the QEW to the Gardiner, anyone know the best place to get off and park?

GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on November 20, 2017, 12:14:00 PM
Two teams on the hottest streaks of their respective seasons!  Which team will continue to roll with wins and which one's streak will end tonight?  Let's hope the boys in blue make it 7!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Kaberle15 on November 20, 2017, 12:25:22 PM
Can they do 7?

Go Leafs Go!!!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: anton girdeaux on November 20, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
Can they do 7?

Go Leafs Go!!!

I’d say that seven is doable. Need to hit the floor running and not take them lightly. Matthews is likely to be pumped up for this one.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 01:04:02 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: anton girdeaux on November 20, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .

I reckon we win. And win well.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on November 20, 2017, 01:08:53 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/157/itsatrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on November 20, 2017, 05:38:51 PM
I hate teams that play the trap
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on November 20, 2017, 05:45:45 PM
I hate teams that play the trap
That's ok, I'm pretty sure Arizona won't play it well.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Frank E on November 20, 2017, 06:00:30 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .

I had that feeling about the habs game...
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on November 20, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
These are two points that would be nice to have in the bank.

Hopefully the Leafs will keep up the strong play of late.

GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 07:11:00 PM
Let's keep the win streak going Leafs!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 07:13:10 PM
Not looking good early.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:20:26 PM
Heavy shift thanks to the 4th line. Martin with a couple of nice passes.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 07:21:35 PM
Heavy shift thanks to the 4th line. Martin with a couple of nice passes.

If they'd kept it in there I think they could've at least drawn a penalty.  AZ was gepooplich.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 07:25:29 PM
So much for the SO streak.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
Crap!  1-0 Matthew's Dream Team!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on November 20, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
We stink dudes.


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Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:26:34 PM
Arizona did a good job moving the puck on that PP.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 07:27:56 PM
SOG 10-1 in favor of the visitors.  Now that they've taken the first 10 minutes of the game off, perhaps the Leafs will think about actually playing.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: disco on November 20, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
That must've been exhausting for Freddy. He's a big guy, up and down constantly on that PK. Yotes directed like ten shots on net in a minute.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:33:25 PM
JvR with good defense. Weird night.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on November 20, 2017, 07:34:17 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/157/itsatrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
Wow good defense by Bozak too.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:38:43 PM
Nylander is such a beautiful skater.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
“KDAP” - Carlton
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on November 20, 2017, 08:02:06 PM
Not a great first period. Lots of give aways and lost puck battles.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 08:04:26 PM
Bing bang BOOOM
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:05:22 PM
This PP is on fiyah... should get it checked out.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on November 20, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
JVR!

PP money
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 08:05:45 PM
JvR scores! 1-1 tie.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
“KDAP” - Carlton

Got here late, thanks.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
Remember when those types of plays by Marner were missing sticks by a few inches and we were all worried about his start to the season?
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:10:24 PM

Pretty much unstoppable if you let them get set up because all they do is bump it into the middle and generate a crap ton of rebounds and shots.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:13:58 PM

Yoink
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:20:29 PM
That Keller story is cute.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
That Keller story is cute.

It helps that he and Chayka probably went to high school together.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:24:51 PM
Anyone surprised that Greg Millen is bad at lip reading?
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on November 20, 2017, 08:25:21 PM
Hainsey took a penalty. Babcock can't use Hainsey on the penalty kill. Heads will explode.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:25:53 PM
Hainsey took a penalty. Babcock can't use Hainsey on the penalty kill. Heads will explode.

What if we score a shortie...
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:26:05 PM
Hainsey took a penalty. Babcock can't use Hainsey on the penalty kill. Heads will explode.

He's just gonna wave the ref off and kill the penalty himself.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:26:43 PM
That Keller story is cute.

It helps that he and Chayka probably went to high school together.

Weren’t they reading buddies?
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
Anyone surprised that Greg Millen is bad at lip reading?

I'm surprised that he hasn't accidentally walked into traffic by now.



Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 08:29:45 PM
F*ck You Freddie is a joy to watch.

Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:35:15 PM
Nylander’s passes getting wasted all night. Should just shoot. 
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
Coyote Dung! Coyotes score.  2-1 Coyotes!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 08:39:19 PM
The Yotes have a lot of good young talent, they're much better than their record suggests.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
That’s a solid poop.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 08:41:47 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/157/itsatrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
The Yotes have a lot of good young talent, they're much better than their record suggests.

I thought they'd be much better than this. I'm surprised they didn't chase a couple of Winnik/Parenteau types (or just literally those two) this off season to shore up their bottom-6.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 08:46:35 PM
The Yotes have a lot of good young talent, they're much better than their record suggests.

I thought they'd be much better than this. I'm surprised they didn't chase a couple of Winnik/Parenteau types (or just literally those two) this off season to shore up their bottom-6.

Agreed, having Rinaldo take a regular shift is pretty surprising on a Chayka team.

The Leafs have been dominant at 5v5 from what I've seen, they should still win tonight if they can kill this penalty to start the third.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: L K on November 20, 2017, 08:48:35 PM
Why are the Leafs taking more penalties than drawing on a consistent basis.  They are fast and don't play very physical.  It seems odd.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
Lol Brown
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:03:21 PM
What a weird non-call on the most obvious trip ever.

Matthews is not 100% yet. That cross-ice backhand just had no zip.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
This is a placeholder for the gif of Matthews leading a breakout 1v4 looking like he’s playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:09:32 PM
Every game it seems like they say something like, and the Leafs haven't beaten [FILL IN BLANK] at home [at all] since [FILL IN YEAR].  Apparently we haven't won a game since 1997.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:13:55 PM
The Yotes have a lot of good young talent, they're much better than their record suggests.

I thought they'd be much better than this. I'm surprised they didn't chase a couple of Winnik/Parenteau types (or just literally those two) this off season to shore up their bottom-6.

Agreed, having Rinaldo take a regular shift is pretty surprising on a Chayka team.

It's still early, but I also feel like Tocchet might not have been the best choice for head coach.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
Matthews is not 100% yet. That cross-ice backhand just had no zip.

Definitely does not look as strong on the puck as usual.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:21:58 PM
Matthews is not 100% yet. That cross-ice backhand just had no zip.

Definitely does not look as strong on the puck as usual.

He’s taken several hard hits tonight as well
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
Leafs really struggle when their game plan can't be executed almost perfectly. Still need to learn how to do a better job of finding other ways to win.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:23:21 PM
Komarov’s been dropped to the Martin-Moore line.

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Marleau - Kadri - Nylander
JvR - Bozak - Brown
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
The whole team looks disjointed.  Pretty predictable, I guess.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on November 20, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
Boring game? Not able to view it.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:24:44 PM
Leafs really struggle when their game plan can't be executed almost perfectly. Still need to learn how to do a better job of finding other ways to win.

See under

Andersen, Goalie
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on November 20, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Leafs really struggle when their game plan can't be executed almost perfectly. Still need to learn how to do a better job of finding other ways to win.

No excuse. Giving up points at home against the Coyotes is inexcusable. Team has a long way to go. Record is deceiving.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on November 20, 2017, 09:27:52 PM
We rule man!


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Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:27:55 PM
He is AWESOME.  That is all.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
I dunno Matthews looks good to me guys.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on November 20, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
Oh no it's being reviewed...
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:29:08 PM
Yeah his forehand is fine.

That’s a solid celly too.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on November 20, 2017, 09:29:11 PM
Matthews scores!  2-2 Tie!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
Ranta had plenty of time to recover.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
Ranta had plenty of time to recover.

Yup. Raanta had forever to get set on that one.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:30:24 PM
Hmm that might come back.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:30:53 PM
Ranta had plenty of time to recover.

Yup. Raanta had forever to get set on that one.

So did Quick that one time (at least some of us felt that way).
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on November 20, 2017, 09:30:59 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:31:06 PM
Ranta had plenty of time to recover.

Bullcrap.

Yup. Raanta had forever to get set on that one.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
Ranta had plenty of time to recover.

Yup. Raanta had forever to get set on that one.

So did Quick that one time (at least some of us felt that way).

True. They clearly give the goalies a lot of time to react to whatever happened.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:32:14 PM
Fischer pushes Hyman and his stick into Raanta. So okay?
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
Figured. If I'm a goalie and I get touched like that I'd just stay down. They'll call it back every time.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:35:11 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
Matthews hits the post, but damn the patience and confidence for Gardiner to deke and feed him the puck is insane.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on November 20, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:36:06 PM
Well, that's disappointing.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:36:23 PM
Puck bounced off a stick 2 or 3 times there with the Leafs pressuring.
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Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:36:43 PM
Figured. If I'm a goalie and I get touched like that I'd just stay down. They'll call it back every time.

Yup. Just stay unbalanced for a few extra steps, and it's no goal.
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Post by: Significantly Insignificant on November 20, 2017, 09:36:52 PM
Not their night tonight.
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:36:57 PM
Yeah that sucks.
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Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:36:59 PM
There should have been a penalty on taking down Andersen.  That's garbage.
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Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:38:32 PM
Great push. I think it’d be nice to see that urgency earlier and consistently throughout the game.
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Thanks Hyman!
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:39:02 PM
There should have been a penalty on taking down Andersen.  That's garbage.

Nah that was a Jonathan Quick impression.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
What a strange game, Leafs were the better team tonight and dropped it.

They've been second best and winning games lately.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:40:31 PM
There should have been a penalty on taking down Andersen.  That's garbage.

Nah that was a Jonathan Quick impression.

Are you saying that our goalie is not playing fairly?   :o
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Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:43:30 PM
There should have been a penalty on taking down Andersen.  That's garbage.

Nah that was a Jonathan Quick impression.

Are you saying that our goalie is not playing fairly?   :o

Yeah he was clearly trying to draw a call on a nothing contact.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on November 20, 2017, 09:44:18 PM
So was that interference on Andersen? I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 20, 2017, 09:45:20 PM
There should have been a penalty on taking down Andersen.  That's garbage.

Nah that was a Jonathan Quick impression.

Are you saying that our goalie is not playing fairly?   :o

Yeah he was clearly trying to draw a call on a nothing contact.

Hmmm that's debatable.  Anyhow, they still should have called it after that crapola reversal.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: freer on November 20, 2017, 09:50:27 PM
You can't continuously be out shot and expect to win. Although that was a pretty soft goalie interference call sine he was pushed into the goalie.

It sucks that the leafs can't beat the garbage teams.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 09:52:31 PM
Apart from the bottom pair, all but two players were positive possession players tonight.

Borgman and Carrick got buried.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 09:57:05 PM
What a strange game, Leafs were the better team tonight and dropped it.

I dunno. It didn't really feel like the Leafs were the better team. I know they were up big in terms of possession, but it didn't feel like they dominated or had a ton of high danger chances or anything. In terms of quality of play, it felt pretty even - with the Leafs not really being able to execute for most of the night. Definitely felt like the Yotes did a better job of executing their game plan.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: herman on November 20, 2017, 09:59:20 PM
Colour me surprised!

Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
Apart from the bottom pair, all but two players were positive possession players tonight.

Borgman and Carrick got buried.

Borgman at 16.7%. The Leafs have just three shot attempts and zero actual shots at 5-on-5 with him on the ice.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Nik the Trik on November 20, 2017, 10:10:27 PM

It's probably key to keep in mind that the Coyotes are a young team and probably not as bad as their record indicates. The Leafs should be better than them on any given night but you can't expect to dominate anybody in this league.

I also agree with busta. The possession numbers didn't strike me as indicative of much tonight.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 20, 2017, 10:13:02 PM
What a strange game, Leafs were the better team tonight and dropped it.

I dunno. It didn't really feel like the Leafs were the better team. I know they were up big in terms of possession, but it didn't feel like they dominated or had a ton of high danger chances or anything. In terms of quality of play, it felt pretty even - with the Leafs not really being able to execute for most of the night. Definitely felt like the Yotes did a better job of executing their game plan.

I think it was pretty sloppy, but even with more advanced metrics than possession, the Leafs dominated 5v5.

The Yotes PP and a few great stops by Raanta was the story.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on November 20, 2017, 10:13:08 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/157/itsatrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on November 20, 2017, 10:19:59 PM
Apart from the bottom pair, all but two players were positive possession players tonight.

Borgman and Carrick got buried.

Borgman at 16.7%. The Leafs have just three shot attempts and zero actual shots at 5-on-5 with him on the ice.
Borgman struggled all game. Kept giving the puck away.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 20, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
Borgman struggled all game. Kept giving the puck away.

He's still exempt from waivers, I think it's time to give him some Marlies time and try Marincin or Rosen or Marincin or Dermott or Marincin in that spot for a bit.
Title: Re: Coyotes @ Leafs - Nov. 20th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on November 21, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
I think it was pretty sloppy, but even with more advanced metrics than possession, the Leafs dominated 5v5.

The Yotes PP and a few great stops by Raanta was the story.

Maybe I'm getting hung up on semantics here, but it certainly didn't feel like the Leafs dominated in any way. They may have had the puck more - possibly even significantly more - but it didn't feel like they really did much with it, or controlled the play to the point where I'd consider it to be a dominant performance.
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Post by: cabber24 on November 21, 2017, 03:21:37 PM
This has all the makings of a trap game - team on a winning streak, destroyed last opponent on the scoreboard, last place team in the league . . .


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/157/itsatrap.jpg)
Sure was a trap! Always super greatful to get to a game but.... yawn...blah... trap... giveaways... Matthews hit hard a couple times... reversed goal... post... brutal.