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Title: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 22, 2017, 04:58:20 PM
Leafs PR
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2017, 04:59:04 PM
Well, this was inevitable.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 22, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
Last night aside, I thought Carrick has been very good on the bottom pair and Marincin has been excellent in the AHL, seems like a backward step a little bit.

Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2017, 05:07:03 PM
This move means somebody needs to go down. Either Borgman or Rosen likely. Or maybe Babs finally gives Moore the 4C spot permanently and Fehr finds a new home. But my money's on Rosen.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
I brought this up before, but with Babcock basically only playing Zaitsev and Hainsey on the PK some type of move here was inevitable. I was hoping it'd be bringing Marincin back up, but here we are. I'd expect Polak to sub in for Carrick pretty quickly to fill that hole on the PK.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 22, 2017, 05:09:49 PM
This move means somebody needs to go down. Either Borgman or Rosen likely. Or maybe Babs finally gives Moore the 4C spot permanently and Fehr finds a new home. But my money's on Rosen.

Probably correct.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 22, 2017, 05:12:44 PM
Is there a chance they can slide Carrick onto the second pair with Reilly and keep Polak and Hainsey as a bottom pair PK eating duo?

Give Borgman and Rosen the run of the AHL and keep Marincin as a 7th?
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 22, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
I take this as another sign that they want to try to go deep right away.  Last night's gong show just earned Roman a cool mil.  (And those two horrible giveaways by Borg may be his ticket to Ricoh.)  As long as Polak's bottom pairing it isn't a bad move.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 22, 2017, 05:22:47 PM
Last night aside, I thought Carrick has been very good on the bottom pair and Marincin has been excellent in the AHL, seems like a backward step a little bit.

I agree.  Yeah, not a vote of confidence in either, is it? 
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: L K on October 22, 2017, 07:07:06 PM
I don't really care for this.  I get it based on Babcock's PK strategy of only using Zaitsev and Hainsey but I wasn't a huge Polak fan before his injury.  Adding a slow defenseman who is only likely to be slower really doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Bender on October 22, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
I don't really care for this.  I get it based on Babcock's PK strategy of only using Zaitsev and Hainsey but I wasn't a huge Polak fan before his injury.  Adding a slow defenseman who is only likely to be slower really doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Yeah I mean hasnt the injury hampered his already limited mobility?
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: pnjunction on October 22, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
Wow hopefully this is to sit in the press box mostly so Rosen can go down to get more minutes/games in AHL and Borgman can get into all the games?
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: riff raff on October 22, 2017, 10:39:51 PM
I don't really care for this.  I get it based on Babcock's PK strategy of only using Zaitsev and Hainsey but I wasn't a huge Polak fan before his injury.  Adding a slow defenseman who is only likely to be slower really doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Yeah I mean hasnt the injury hampered his already limited mobility?

Injuries like that rarely increase your mobility.....
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: KadriFan on October 23, 2017, 06:22:47 AM
I like it.  Team needs someone to clear the front of the net.  Far too much traffic for our goalies to see past
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zee on October 23, 2017, 07:10:45 AM
I like it.  Team needs someone to clear the front of the net.  Far too much traffic for our goalies to see past
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Dappleganger on October 23, 2017, 07:28:56 AM
I like it.  Team needs someone to clear the front of the net.  Far too much traffic for our goalies to see past

Is it possible to see GAA and save percentage rates 5v5 for when Polak is on the ice and without?

Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: herman on October 23, 2017, 08:16:25 AM
I have been thinking that our team needs more experience learning how to:
- play without the puck
- break out of our own zone
- have forwards cover for defensemen
- play shorthanded

We are going to get a lot more reps of all of that with Polak on the ice.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: AvroArrow on October 23, 2017, 08:36:44 AM
This move means somebody needs to go down. Either Borgman or Rosen likely. Or maybe Babs finally gives Moore the 4C spot permanently and Fehr finds a new home. But my money's on Rosen.

Isn't Polak a RD?  Wouldn't this more likely spell the end for Carrick?
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 23, 2017, 08:45:01 AM
Isn't Polak a RD?  Wouldn't this more likely spell the end for Carrick?

I would imagine it would bump Carrick out of the line-up (or at least they'll rotate), but my money would be on Rosen getting bumped off the roster and onto the Marlies.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: AvroArrow on October 23, 2017, 08:48:04 AM
Isn't Polak a RD?  Wouldn't this more likely spell the end for Carrick?

I would imagine it would bump Carrick out of the line-up (or at least they'll rotate), but my money would be on Rosen getting bumped off the roster and onto the Marlies.

Ah, right, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: herman on October 23, 2017, 09:35:27 AM
I brought this up before, but with Babcock basically only playing Zaitsev and Hainsey on the PK some type of move here was inevitable. I was hoping it'd be bringing Marincin back up, but here we are. I'd expect Polak to sub in for Carrick pretty quickly to fill that hole on the PK.

The Leafs currently have a top 10 PK in terms of CA/60 (7th), GA/60 (6th), xGA/60 (6th) riding Hainsey and Zaitsev, but it definitely isn't sustainable with only two guys on the backend.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Frank E on October 23, 2017, 09:46:21 AM
Re-arranging deck chairs here.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 23, 2017, 10:03:33 AM
Rosen to the Marlies.

Polak probably the 7th for a bit at least.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 23, 2017, 10:23:44 AM
Interesting conspiracy theory: did Babcock only play 2 defencemen on the PK to essentially force management into re-signing Polak?
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: cabber24 on October 23, 2017, 10:29:44 AM
It's disappointing how little has changed between this year and last on the blue line. Hainsey for Hunwick? Virtually the same group who as whole are still not very good.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 23, 2017, 10:30:19 AM
Interesting conspiracy theory: did Babcock only play 2 defencemen on the PK to essentially force management into re-signing Polak?

Mmmmm nah.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Guilt Trip on October 23, 2017, 04:39:13 PM
It's disappointing how little has changed between this year and last on the blue line. Hainsey for Hunwick? Virtually the same group who as whole are still not very good.
It's not getting good overnight without a major trade. It's going to take time and clearly Liljegren, Rosen and Borgman need time to develop. Who knows what their ceiling will be.
And just because they signed Polak, doesn't mean he automatically bumps someone out. He may well be the 7th guy and play against the tougher teams. Time will tell on how Babcock will use him.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 23, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
Liljegren a 1st and a 2nd for Doughty. ;)
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zee on October 23, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
It's disappointing how little has changed between this year and last on the blue line. Hainsey for Hunwick? Virtually the same group who as whole are still not very good.
I think Hainsey has been better than Hunwick was at least early in last season.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: herman on October 24, 2017, 11:53:25 AM

I was really hoping someone captured this.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zee on October 24, 2017, 02:37:21 PM

I was really hoping someone captured this.

Does anyone have that moment where Ray Ferraro was criticizing Polak for getting away with a penalty and Polak was right beside Ferraro listening and shaking his head?  That was one of the funniest things I ever saw on a hockey broadcast.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 24, 2017, 02:46:09 PM
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zee on October 24, 2017, 02:51:29 PM

LOL that's the one.  I remember Ferraro talking about it on Overdrive the next day how he was scared with Polak beside him watching.
Title: Re: Polak signs 1x1.1
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 24, 2017, 03:40:11 PM
Is it OK that I love Roman Polak?