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Title: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 30, 2017, 12:09:19 PM
New faces, new hopes, a new G.M., new (tweaked) unis, etc.  The Toronto Raptors, along with the rest of the league, are well into training camp, and will play their first pre-season game this Sunday (Oct.1st).


Here is a list of many things Raptor:

The team roster
http://www.nba.com/raptors/roster/ (http://www.nba.com/raptors/roster/)

The 2017-2018 Schedule (including pre-season games):
http://www.nba.com/raptors/schedule (http://www.nba.com/raptors/schedule)

Raptors start the regular season Oct. 10th at home versus the Chicago Bulls.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 30, 2017, 12:36:42 PM
I must admit I like the red shoes better...

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 30, 2017, 02:25:52 PM
The red uniform:

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 02, 2017, 07:02:24 AM
A better view of the red uniform...

(https://imageshack.com/i/po3gI4mdj)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 19, 2017, 02:45:21 AM
Raptors official roster/schedule.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Toronto_Raptors/28/Rosters/Opening_Day

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Toronto-Raptors/28/Schedule

Opening night at the ACC {first game of season) is tonight vs Chicago Bulls.

GO RAPTORS GO!
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 19, 2017, 03:16:17 AM
Expect greater (better) offence in terms of ball movement, and in three-point shooting, as well as giving the younger players more playing time.  The Raptors have been improving on the tips & tricks of their three-point shooting throughout pre-season and it will be seen if it translates on the court once the season gets underway.

Look for DeMar DeRozan to play with a chip on his shoulder, so to speak, in attempting to disprove the notion that he is not among the elite forwards in the game.  Ask SI about it, but that's DeMar's caveat going into the new season. 

What of Kyle Lowry.  Can he stay injury-free all through the regular season and playoffs?

The Raptors possess two power forwards in C.J. Miles and Sergei Ibaka, a raw rookie in O.G. Anunoby, whose upside is defence and whose question mark is offence, and  several other young faces already in the Raptors system in Poetl, Wright, and Siakam, none which have yet to experience heavy minutes in a game.

Then there's Valenciuna, VanFleet, Powell, Nogueira, and Caboclo, the latter a true mystery on the court.

Replete with bench strength, new faces, seasoned returnees, a (hopefully) improved approach to their game, the Toronto Raptors have their work cut out for them.  It's a matter of putting that rock in the rack and being consistent on all aspects to their game that will untlimately stand the test of time and wins.

GO RAPTORS GO!


Source:   NBA.com, Sportsnet, TSN
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 21, 2017, 07:11:20 PM
Bulls 100   Raptors 117

So...the Raptors promised changes, a new attitude, new offence, a more exciting game, blah, blah, blah.  Did they deliver?  You bet they did!

In Thursday's home opener, the Raptors demolished the Chicago Bulls at the ACC by a score of 117-100.  It was a game that saw veterans such as C.J. Miles make six three-point shots; Jonas Valenciunas with 23 points and a double-double; the young lads such as Deion Wright, Jakob Poelti, Fred VanVleet & draftee rookie OG Anunoby all contributed to a 20-2 run in the first quarter led by Miles.

The Raptors bench strength was solid and the team played a fast-paced offence, taking advantage of many a scoring opportunity.  Besides Valenciunas, Powell had 15 points,Lowry had 12 and DeRozan 11.

But the talk of the night was definitely with veteran Miles & Toronto's bench depth, their second unit, which provided the early jump start and set the tempo.

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"I was really impressed with the young group," said coach Dwane Casey. "They came in and didn't look like they were a deer in the headlights. They expanded the lead and didn't lose it, and really impressed."

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'As a unit we need every single person on this roster to be ready," Miles said. "And for us to be able to go in there as a whole five and have success, for those guys, that's big for them, early in the year and early in their careers to be able to gain confidence.

"That's the biggest thing with the league. Everybody's got talent, everybody's got skill, that's why they get here. It's about opportunity and confidence. Them having the opportunity, now it's about being confident and playing hard."

Exactly.  Consistency, too.  It remains to be seen how the Raptors will fare over the course of the season.  It is worth noting that the Raptors were playing against a depleted Bulls lineup.  Still, not meaning to take anything away from their team effort in this game, one would have to say, so far, so very, very good.  Keep it up, guys!

Game story:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-chicago-bulls-recap-1.4363052 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-chicago-bulls-recap-1.4363052)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 22, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Sixers 94   Raptors 128

The score alone should tell the tale of which team was the dominant force in last night's Toronto win.  No doubt the Raptors ran all over the 'Sixers, who by the way, we're playing their third game in four nights and a rather fatigued Philadelphia squad indeed.  Still, in pro sports, there is no excuse for lack of effort, only in this case it wasn't for lack of effort, it was merely that the Toronto Raptors possess a potent balanced offence.  Tough to stop when they're rolling get on all cylinders.

DeMar DeRozan who was practically invisible in the Raptors season home-opening win versus the Bulls Thursday night, came to life and popped in 30 points.  Forward Sergei Ibaka contributed five three pointers, while Lowry had 17 & Poelti had 14.

If it isn't the bench depth in the form of the younger Raptors and C.J. Miles that gets Toronto on the scoreboard (as happened in Thursday's opening win), then it's DeMar that opponents need to look out for, with other vets like Ibaka thrown in.  Perhaps these two games are a testament to the Raptors diverse offence. 

The Raptors now embark on a six-game road trip, an interesting challenge that begins Monday in San Antonio without Jonas Valenciunas.  Big JV sprained his ankle in Saturday's game.  He will be evaluated on the extent of the injury.  Valenciunas had a solid start to the season and was a factor in the team's consistency both offensively & defensively.

Valenciunas replacement was Lucas Nogoeira who, surprisingly, led the Raptors on a 10-2 spree teaming up with Lowry and providing some highlight reels to boot.

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"Hes going to have an MRI on his foot, Casey said. He turned it, Saric went under his foot, stepped on his foot and turned it. I told him after that possession he had one of his best defensive possessions of all year (against Saric). Hopefully its not serious.

Game story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2017/10/21/raptors-demar-derozan-shakes-off-all-that-is-ailing-him-in-win-over-sixers.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2017/10/21/raptors-demar-derozan-shakes-off-all-that-is-ailing-him-in-win-over-sixers.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 24, 2017, 04:41:44 AM
Raptors 97  Spurs 101

Call this one the one that got away, sort of.  The San Antonio Spurs rallied with barely three minutes left in the fourth quarter to widen their lead over the Toronto Raptors to solidity the win.

It was the Raptors' season-opening road game and their first loss (2-1).  The Raptors, without the services of Jonas Valenciunas due to a sprained ankle, were badly outrebounded.  In fact, San Antonio LaMarcus Aldridge fouled Ibaka for the sixth time, after the two engaged themselves in a minor altercation.  Aldridge used this as adrenaline to advance the Spurs on the scoreboard in those three minutes.

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"Just an overall good win against a really well-coached, disciplined team that has a lot of expectations," San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said. "Its good for our confidence since were trying to put some things together."

Talk about revenge, talk about what you will, but the fact remains that San Antonio was the more aggressive team on the court.   

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"We played great defence, but weve got to realize with that dont let it go to waste by giving up offensive rebounds to the team," DeRozan said. "Thats something we definitely can teak from (this game).

Raptors were led by DeRozan with 28 points, and Ibaka with 13.

Toronto's next game is against the Golden State Warriors on Wednesday.

Game story:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-fall-short-fourth-spurs-suffer-first-loss-season/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-fall-short-fourth-spurs-suffer-first-loss-season/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 26, 2017, 02:56:56 AM
Raptors 112  Warriors 117

For most of the game, the lead kept changing, until the later stages when the Raptors went on a scoring spree and upped their lead with a scant few minutes remaining in regulation.

Enter Durant, Curry & co.  With a couple of three-shot points, the Warriors woke up in time to win it over Toronto.

With Valenciunas & Noguiera out with injuries, the Raptors received offensive support from an interesting mix.  Paskal Siakam with 20 points, Jokob Poelti with a double double, DeRozan with 24 pts., along with contributions from Ibaka, Wright and rookie OG Anunoby.

In spite of the effort, once again, the Raptors seemed plagued with a lack of three-point shooting, a case in point, the opposite of Golden State who make the three point shot their fort.

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Man, it could be a one-point game, you walk in the kitchen get something to drink, come back, they can be up 14 that quick, was the way DeMar DeRozan described the defending NBA champion Warriors ability to break games open with little notice. Thats the type of team it is, thats why theyre the champions for a reason. You have to be aware of that.

Thats why you can never get discouraged, if they go on a run youve got to keep fighting, thats always been our mindset every time we got down, we never looked at it like it was over. As long as we fought back in it, give ourselves a chance.

That is why a team needs mental toughness when playing teams like Golden State, to keep up the pressure.  The Raptors went ball for ball and throw for throw but ultimately it was the last minute Warriors comeback that did them in.  The Warriors went on a 9-0 offensive.  Game over.

Game story:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-cant-quite-escape-inevitable-hurricane-warriors (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-cant-quite-escape-inevitable-hurricane-warriors)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 30, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
Raptors 101  Lakers 92

in a albeit reversal of their loss against the Golden State Warriors in their previous game, this time it was Toronto''s turn to make a game statement.

Powered by DeRozan & Lowry, the Raptors took control and did not miss any opportunities in putting the game away,  and out of reach for the Lakers Friday night.  With six minutes left in regulation, and with the score tied, the Raptors scored the pivotal nine points on a 9-0 run.

DeRozan with 24 points including the three he made in those last few minutes and Lowry with the double double led the way.  Consistant and persistent team effort.

Story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/doug_smiths_sports_blog/2017/10/28/raptors-got-to-their-closers-down-the-stretch-to-win.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/doug_smiths_sports_blog/2017/10/28/raptors-got-to-their-closers-down-the-stretch-to-win.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Andy on October 31, 2017, 01:07:16 PM
Good win for the Raps last night against a tough Portland team in Portland. Missing Serge and Jonas too.

That's quite the road swing they've been on- Spurs, Warriors, Blazers.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on November 01, 2017, 02:21:07 AM
Good win for the Raps last night against a tough Portland team in Portland. Missing Serge and Jonas too.

That's quite the road swing they've been on- Spurs, Warriors, Blazers.


Yeah, thought they played very well last night and against the Lakers Friday night.

What I liked about the win over Portland was the continuing effort from some of their younger players, namely Nogueira & Anunoby.  Arms flailing and providing good defence & offence (Nogueira had 17 points on the night).  Also, Lowry and DeRozan in spurring the way, particularly Lowry with his 19 points rebounding & triple double. 
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on November 10, 2017, 05:20:17 AM
The Toronto Raptors defeated the New Orleans Pelicans 118-112 Thursday, in a thrilling up-to-the-minute game at the ACC.

The Pelicans, among the offensive leaders, poured the pressure but the Raptors, using some smart defensive strategy, kept pace with New Orleans' power forwards Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins.  Toronto utilized a combination of bench rotation,  and offensive depth to counter the Pelicans at every turn.

Led by DeRozan's 33 points, Toronto's young guns -- Poelti, Wright, Anunoby & Siakam -- kept an exciting tempo in going toe-to-toe with New Orleans rushes.  Anunoby also putting in some sound defence, along with Valenciunas and then Ibaka, as well as Nogueira, all who contributed in their own way, and one can begin to see why this game went high-tempo in all areas. 

Raptors now embark on a road trip beginning Sunday afternoon in Boston, against the red-hot Celtics who have won ten games in-a-row.  Toronto's road trip consists of three games in four nights.  Not going to be easy but the Raptors are pretty confident they'll manage well, particularly with the way coach Casey is strategizing his squad against the opposition, this game (vs New Orleans) a case in point.

Story:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-effectively-limit-pelicans-imposing-bigs-thrilling-win/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-effectively-limit-pelicans-imposing-bigs-thrilling-win/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on November 14, 2017, 09:03:33 AM
The Toronto Raptors Sunday night had the opportunity of ending the Boston Celtics' 11-game winning streak.  With just a few seconds remaining on the clock and a foul on the part of the Celtics, (in which the Raptors regained possession), DeMar DeRozan had the perfect chance to put the game away....but...wait...oh, DeMar, how could you not??!!

Just a lousy two points and Boston's win streak would have been over.  Yep.  But no, instead the final score was set at 95-94 in favour of the Celtics.  Aargh!!!

Truth is that the Raptors failed to do what was required.  Always DeMar, or DeMar this and that at the final moments, certainly they should have created some other go-to options.  Sergei Ibaka did not scoop the rebound even with the clock winding down. 

This loss was symptomatic of what 's been plaguing the Raptors lately, particularly with improper or under usage of some players who should have been out there in the stretch drive, and simply a lack of options rather than handing the ball to DeRozan who is no LeBron James.  The team becomes too predictable as the opposition awaits for just those moments they know will be coming and ready themselves for it.

DeRozan is 2 for 16 in the closing moments of a game the Raptors are trailing.  With that kind of inaccuracy at the basket, isn't any wonder that games that should have been won, were lost?

Coach Casey's  player changes didn't help.  Where were Siakam, Poelti, and Miles for the stretch run especially in the second quarter and near the half of the last.  Against a team like the Celtics, who by the way were missing Kyrie Irving to a facial fracture, a team needs to parlay as many offensive options it can piece together.  Boston did.  Toronto didn't.

Oh well, lesson learned.

Story:
https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2017/11/13/raptors-lose-heartbreaker-kyrie-less-celtics/ (https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2017/11/13/raptors-lose-heartbreaker-kyrie-less-celtics/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on November 15, 2017, 07:03:00 AM
A very different Toronto Raptors team last night.  Certainly playing with more fluidity offensively,  unlike their loss to the Celtics Sunday, Toronto beat the Houston Rockets 129-113 in Houston last night.

Led by OG Anunoby's career high 16 points,  and C.J. Miles' six three pointers as well as DeRozan's 27 pts., the Raptors did it right this time with better roster changes and more aggressive ball control.  The fact that they scored a team record of 45 pts., in just the second quarter alone, and 75 pts., in the first, comes to show the determination and consistency, two things that continue to plague this Raptors team at times.  Not in this road win.  Not this time.  Mistakes made in their previous game weren't allowed here.

It no doubt made a difference in the outcome.

Story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2017/11/14/raptors-overpower-rockets-with-record-second-quarter.html
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on November 16, 2017, 09:03:11 PM
What do you get when your team has a young,  inexpensive bench unit and who's job it is to go head-to-head against the oppositions best?  An impressive array of speed, both offensively & defensively.

Such was the case in the Raptors 125- 116 victory in New Orleans against the Pelicans Wednesday night.
Against the Rockets in their previous road win, it was O.G. Anunoby's time to shine.  Against New Orleans, and making life a little miserable for the Pelicans' Anthony Davis & DeMarcus Cousins, was Pascal Siakam & co.

The Raptors bench unit was anything but slow in contributing to their team's first half.  This paved the way for the duo of DeRozan and Lowry (throw in C.J. Miles), and away the Raptors continued being opportunitic with their passing game and the three-point shooting. 

DeRozan led for Toronto with 27 points, followed b6 Lowry with 22, Valenciunas with 21, and Miles with 17.

Though the reserves made several turnovers and at one point it looked as though the Raptors were on their way to yet anothet one of those 'inconsistent' losses, make no mistake for Miles three-point shooting gave the Raptors plenty of reasons to smile when it comes to what one can call clutch leadership, and steer the good young Raptor ship in the right direction.

Poelti, Siakam did what they had to do and when you have a veteran in-between, it can only help. 

Scary moment for Deion Wright, seen leaving the game clutching his arm/shoulder,, in obvious pain.

Story:
http://www.cbc.ca/m/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-new-orleans-pelicans-1.4404295 (http://www.cbc.ca/m/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-new-orleans-pelicans-1.4404295)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on December 02, 2017, 09:37:56 AM
The Raptors' quarter-mark report cards are in.  In summation:

The good:
A- O.G. Anunoby   A-  Paskal Siakam  A- C.J.Miles
(Anunoby's fort is defense and the three-point shot); Siakam's an excellent floor runner, passer and all-round talent); Miles is the veteran three-point specialist)

The fair
B+  DeRozan   B+  VanVleet   B  Lowry   B  Poeltl   B Wright   B- Nogueira 
(DeMar's playmaking has improved from last season.  Still very much Raptors' go-to-guy but inconsistent especially defensively & on point shots);  (Call Fred VanVleet the 'little' guy that can, did, and does. Started off slow but as he's played more due to taking Wright's spot, is now considered among to three guards in the league); 
(Lowry doing all the little things -- rebounding three-point shots, defence, etc., -- that is expected of the Raptor's guard.  As always, an important cog in the machinery);  (Poeltl is fleet of feet and a work in progress.  Shows promise.); 
(Wright's shoulder was a repeat nagging injury that has the Raptors concerned, otherwise, he is third in deflections among players in his position in the league); 
(Nogueira fluctuates wildly but still a useful backup centre)

The so-so
C+   Powell   C-  Valenciunas   C-  Ibaka
(Powells forte is as a reserve not as a starter.  Not consistent in pressure situations.  Fares better on three-point shooting): 
(Big JV -- a disappointment in that he never seems to break out to be better or perhaps more versatile);   (Ibaka's best when positioned as centre.  Adequate at best)


B+  Coach Dwayne Casey   
Casey's Raptors -- third in offence in league and ninth in defence.  Has managed to engage and motivate young bench squad and get plenty out of others, such as Lowry even with his playing minutes down.  Some may question the coach's decision-making but he certainly knows how to place the pieces of the Raptor puzzle together.

B+  President Masai Ujiri
Ujiri's knack for drafting, trading,  and  signing of players -- such as Miles-- has been praised.  Not so much the Ibaka & Valenciunas contracts, as these player's validity to the team has been left open to question.


For in-depth details see:
https://theathletic.com/169026/2017/11/29/raptors-quarter-mark-report-card-og-anunoby-pascal-siakam-and-c-j-miles-earn-the-top-marks/ (https://theathletic.com/169026/2017/11/29/raptors-quarter-mark-report-card-og-anunoby-pascal-siakam-and-c-j-miles-earn-the-top-marks/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on December 16, 2017, 02:45:26 AM
Kyle Lowry with his 11th career triple double, and DeMar DeRozan's 31 points led the Raptors to a 120-87 stamping of the visiting Brooklyn Nets last night after ACC.

Other contributors for Toronto were Ibaka with 18 pts., Valenciunas with 14, and Powell & Poeltl with 11 each.

The Raptors are currently 19-8 and having won their eighth out of nine games in this stretch, and own the league's besthome record thus far at 10-1.  They stand third in the Eastern Conference three GB the first place first Boston Celtics.

This game against the Nets featured the return of former Toronto Raptor DeMarre Carrol.  Though Carroll didn't suit up for Brooklyn, he was impressed with the new look Raptors:

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"They're moving the ball, they're sharing it, they're playing great basketball," Carroll said. "My hat goes off to them. It's an exciting style of basketball they're playing, and they look like they're the top of the East and the top of the league right now."


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/brooklyn-nets-toronto-raptors-1.4451973
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 02, 2018, 06:42:34 PM
The Raptors' DeMar DeRozan is certainly "proving 'em", as was the case in Toronto's 131-127 OT win over the Milwaukee Bucks at the ACC Monday.

DeRozan with 52 points on the night, double-teamed and all, led the Raptors in an "open" style rather than their in usual "pick and roll" offensive game. The open style allows for more ball-sharing & more of it's players involved in the overall scoring process.  Which is exactly what enabled Toronto to cut down on the Bucks' defensive trap system.

DeRozan's 52 pts., set a Raptor franchise record, surpassing ex-Raptors Vince Carter (51) & Terrence Ross (51).

Besides DeMar, Raptors got contributions from Lowry with 31 pt., and VanVleet whose three-pointer & clutch throwing were instrumental in the OT.

For the story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/01/01/derozan-smashes-raptors-scoring-record-in-ot-win-over-bucks.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/01/01/derozan-smashes-raptors-scoring-record-in-ot-win-over-bucks.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 09, 2018, 12:25:22 AM
The Raptors won their fifth game in-a-row, 114-113 in OT against the Brooklyn Nets, but it came at a price:

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 09, 2018, 12:27:52 AM
Most current update on Lowry:

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 12, 2018, 05:28:24 PM
With Kyle Lowry out of thw lineup -- bruised tailbone & back spasms -- and Serge Ibaka (suspension) - - the Toronto Raptors wasted no time Thursday night at the ACC in demolishing King James and the Cleveland Cavs 133-99.

The Raptors bench unit, among the best in the league, took charge (as well as the attention off of the double-teamed DeRozan), plus a total team offensive (& defensive) contribution that propelled Toronto over the Cavaliers.

Fred VanVleet, who took Lowry's spot at point guard, had 22 points, a career high, including six out of eight three-pointers.  Jakob Poeltl & Valenciunas both had double-doubles.  C.J. Miles as well as Norm Powell saw plenty of court time in contributing all-round.

It's worth noting that this Raptors team has been off to their best start in franchise history.  The win over over the Cavs was the exclamation mark that encapsulates the new look Raptors & their success on the court. 

Way to go, Raptors! 

More:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/4-raptors-difference-makers-cavaliers/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/4-raptors-difference-makers-cavaliers/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 25, 2018, 06:19:52 AM
The Raptors' DeMar DeRozan named as starter for the NBA All-Star Game, while teammate Kyle Lowry is named as a reserve (both players for the Eastern Conference team).

The 2018 NBA All-Star Game is scheduled for Sunday February 18th in L.A.


Source:  Global Sports
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on January 27, 2018, 03:04:47 AM
The Raptors are a "terrible" clutch team.  Clutch time is defined as in what ensues in the last five minutes of a game, or in overtime when a team is within a five-point scoring margin.

Well. our Toronto Raptors don't seem to make the grade.

Here's a chart showcasing such:

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2018, 11:05:53 AM
Lowry 2-14 FG and 0-6 from the 3-point line last night. These are the types of lines that have killed them in the playoffs the last three years.  They can talk all they want about moving the ball more this season and how much they've changed but the bottom line is they won't go anywhere in the post season if Lowry takes over and keeps shooting with such reckless abandon.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on January 27, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
Lowry 2-14 FG and 0-6 from the 3-point line last night. These are the types of lines that have killed them in the playoffs the last three years.  They can talk all they want about moving the ball more this season and how much they've changed but the bottom line is they won't go anywhere in the post season if Lowry takes over and keeps shooting with such reckless abandon.

Pointing out one game where this happens ignores what has happened the rest of the season with this team.  It's kind of silly.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2018, 12:36:07 PM
Lowry 2-14 FG and 0-6 from the 3-point line last night. These are the types of lines that have killed them in the playoffs the last three years.  They can talk all they want about moving the ball more this season and how much they've changed but the bottom line is they won't go anywhere in the post season if Lowry takes over and keeps shooting with such reckless abandon.

Pointing out one game where this happens ignores what has happened the rest of the season with this team.  It's kind of silly.

Yea, I get that it sounds like I'm overreacting to one game; it's just been an overlying problem that I'm worried about, I don't really care that they lost a meaningless game to a bad Jazz team. Lowry is such a bad shooter in big games and has a tendency to take too many attempts; I'm just hopeful that he cuts that down in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on February 08, 2018, 12:02:02 AM
The Raptors beat the Eastern Conference leading Boston Celtics Tuesday night at the ACC by a score of 111-91.

The Raptors bench unit, led by Siakam, Miles, Wright, and VanVleet, scored 59 points against Boston.

The Raptors are 1.0 GBL Celtics for first in the East.

Game recap:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-boston-celtics-recap-1.4523519
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Highlander on February 09, 2018, 07:48:28 PM
There is talk about Vince coming back. I will relate a story on why I went off the NBA to some degree after hearing it and then more evidence of why I continue to be off the game.
The only reason I believe the story is my brother saw it with his own eyes when he was a Marshall at the course.  During Carter's time with the Raptors he was asked as part of publicity to go to Devils Pulpit Golf course and glad hand people at an event.  Public relations so to speak.  Carter goes into a big pout when he finds he is not there to golf but to shake hands. During his hissy fit a 15 year kid goes over and asks for his autograph and Vince tells the kid to "F  Off".   Sorry but the people who pay for his castle in Orlando are paying customers that deserve his humble respect.   
So I started to sign off on NBA even though I still watched it.  To date I have not watched a Raptors game this year. 
What has really capped it for me is the amount of community work the PGA does. Players and the PGA donate millions and millions a year to needy charity's mostly affecting kids.   Look at he amount of community service the Leafs do for everyone and not just because Lou demands it.
The NBA I am sure does its part to some small degree, but really the money these guys make could make a huge difference to so many kids.  If anyone has any research to the contrary I am all ears....heck it may even make me watch the NBA again. 
Sorry but I have as much affection for Vince as a Lice
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 09, 2018, 10:31:03 PM

Here's a link to the NBA's community involvement website:

http://cares.nba.com (http://cares.nba.com)

And here's a story about LeBron James pledging 40 million dollars for kids to go to college for free

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13437404/lebron-james-university-akron-fund-4-year-scholarships-promise-students (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13437404/lebron-james-university-akron-fund-4-year-scholarships-promise-students)

I could not find any information as to whether or not a hockey player or golfer had ever been rude to a child.



Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Highlander on February 11, 2018, 12:32:45 PM
Thanks for the info Nik.  Its appreciated
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 02, 2018, 03:59:14 AM
The Raptors defeated the Orlando Magic 117-104 Thursday night at the ACC.

Leading the way for Toronto was DeMar DeRozan with 21 points, followed by Kyle Lowry with 17 and a double-double.  But it was bench strength that really got the job done and enabled Toronto to come out with a win.  Jakob Poeltl and Pascal Siakam were instrumental in being troublesome for the opposition to handle.  Together, the two combined for 27 points, four blocks, steals, plus 14 rebounds.

The game featured the return of former Raptor Bismack Biyombo, now a member of the Magic.

In winning, the Raptors (43-17) maintained their lead atop the Eastern Conference, half a game up of second place Boston Celtics.

Story:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/takeaways-raptors-vs-magic-win-not-win/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/takeaways-raptors-vs-magic-win-not-win/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on March 07, 2018, 11:02:23 PM

Yo, Auston Matthews I'mma let you finish but DeMar DeRozan is the best athlete in the city right now.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on March 09, 2018, 09:52:51 PM
Raptors beat the Rockets 108-105 ending the Rockets 17 game win streak.  48-17 record now.  What a team.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on March 11, 2018, 10:00:58 AM

Yo, Auston Matthews I'mma let you finish but DeMar DeRozan is the best athlete in the city right now.

Love this post.  Very clever.

That fade away jumper by DeRozan with the scored tied in the 4th the other night against Houston was beautiful.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on March 11, 2018, 04:02:08 PM

Another win, this time relying heavily on the bench as no starter cracked 30 minutes, to go to 8 straight and 49-17. Three games up on Boston for the #1 seed.

Raps now have the best point differential in the entire league at +8.8.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on March 11, 2018, 06:31:46 PM

Another win, this time relying heavily on the bench as no starter cracked 30 minutes, to go to 8 straight and 49-17. Three games up on Boston for the #1 seed.

Raps now have the best point differential in the entire league at +8.8.

3rd/4th in the league in ORTg.   
3rd/4th in the league in DRTg.

The Raptors are the only team that is in the top 5 in both categories.  This isn't just a good team, it's a dominant team.  They still need to perform in the postseason but if they can match their regular season pace in the postseason they have a legitimate shot at getting to the Finals.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 13, 2018, 03:38:50 AM
Congratulations DeMar DeRozan, on being chosen the Eastern Conference Player of the Week (March 5th to 11th)  -- for the fifth time this season -- and tied with the Western Conference Rockets' James Harden for that honour so far this year.

Way to go Raptors!


Source:  CP24 Sports
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on March 13, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22738462/zach-lowe-demar-derozan-kyle-lowry-toronto-raptors-nba
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 13, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22738462/zach-lowe-demar-derozan-kyle-lowry-toronto-raptors-nba

As a not-too-close follower, it's pretty remarkable to see what the Raptors have done this season. Especially since it's largely been through strategic/philosophical changes instead of adding superstars.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on March 13, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22738462/zach-lowe-demar-derozan-kyle-lowry-toronto-raptors-nba

As a not-too-close follower, it's pretty remarkable to see what the Raptors have done this season. Especially since it's largely been through strategic/philosophical changes instead of adding superstars.

I was a slightly closer follower maybe two seasons ago and I didn't really like our playstyle. DeMar would usually foist a contested mid-range jumper at the end of the shot clock and they'd basically live or die by that.

It sounds like they made the right style changes based on the math and some grassroots buy-in. I'm impressed. They've even carved out a new niche for Valanciunas as a post-up or long-shot threat. I love that they now hate shooting from the middle.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on March 13, 2018, 06:19:25 PM

Yeah. I'm a little concerned about their playoff potential, with a deep and varied bench the Raps are sort of built more for regular season success, but the East has never been more open.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on March 14, 2018, 11:27:31 AM
I've been seeing some stellar LeBron James gifs lately.

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on March 16, 2018, 02:04:35 AM
Another win to move to 51-17.  The Raptors started the season 11-7.  They now have a 5 game lead on the Celtics for 2nd and are on a 10 game win streak.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 16, 2018, 09:50:14 AM
Another win to move to 51-17.  The Raptors started the season 11-7.  They now have a 5 game lead on the Celtics for 2nd and are on a 10 game win streak.

I remember they started with a pretty tough schedule (I think all their games out West happened in the 1st third of the season)... but man, 40-10 since is incredible.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on March 16, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
Big comeback victory in OT to win their 11th in a row.  13 games left and still up 5 games.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on March 18, 2018, 03:34:02 PM
Welcome to your playoff future Toronto Raptors.  Marc Davis ejects 3 Raptors as he controls the end of the game for the NBA officials in their victory over the Raptors.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Bill_Berg on March 18, 2018, 04:00:48 PM
Reminds me of that Washington series three years ago.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 06, 2018, 05:31:20 AM
It wasn't too long ago that this same Raptors team stood itself 5.5 games above the second place Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference.  It felt like they were on top of the world at one point, what with one of the best bench units in the league, good defence, very good offence racking up the scoreboard points game after game, etc.  The Raptors were a team to fear no doubt racking up win after win.

Suddenly Toronto's team started unraveling.  The height of it culminated with the Raptors most recent loss to the Cavaliers in Cleveland, or better put, to LeBron James.  Seems as though this team still can't figure out how to beat James, not even with a lead.  (Make that two losses to James' Cavs both after blown leads).

Last night, the Raptors made good on their promise to do better and they did resulting in a 99-78 home win over Boston.  A reminder that the Celtics were and will be without the services of guard Kyrie Irving, out for the season & playoffs.

Don't despair Raptor fans.  Toronto is now 3 games up in first in the Eastern Conference (after having seen their lead shrink to a mere 1.5 games).  They are second in the league when it comes to point differentials which says a lot about team scoring and depth.

At the very least, the Raptors have woken up just in time from their slumber and prevent themselves from truly freefalling.

Game recap:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/04/04/raptors-still-have-to-tell-us-who-they-are.html
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 07, 2018, 11:30:43 AM
Raptors defeat the Indiana Pacers st the ACC  92-76 and clinch first place in the Eastern Conference.  A number of milestones  were set among them,  their 57th win and a record (the most ever for this franchise);  the 33rd home court win also the most ever;  and of course,  the Conference placing, first time ever in franchise history.

There's three games remaining in the season -- two at home & one away.  The Raptors may very well have the opportunity to up their wins column to 60.  Not that they need to but would be nice plus to get in playoff mode.

Good work!

GO RAPTORS!

Game recap:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/04/06/raptors-lock-up-first-in-east-with-record-win-over-pacers.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/04/06/raptors-lock-up-first-in-east-with-record-win-over-pacers.html)

With
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 14, 2018, 06:10:13 PM
Playoff time!

Washington Wizards play the Toronto Raptors tonight at the ACC in Game 1 of this Eastern Conference First Round.

The Raptors finished first atop the Eastern Conference with a 59-23 w/l record.
They ranked third in offensive production and fifth in defense proficiency -- one of the top five teams in the league with success in both of those categories.
They also sport one of the best bench units at 41.4 PPG, among the league's highest scoring.

As for the Wizards, they split the four games they played against Toronto this year, and their 42.7% three-point shot average was their second highest against opponents this season.

Comparing the Wizards to the Raptors is ridiculous, but given the Raptors past playoff performances, nothing should be taken for granted here.  Consistency and efficiency will continue to be the key for Toronto.

Raptors' VanVleet is out of the lineup with a shoulder confusion.


GO RAPTORS!


Sources:  basketballreference, NBA.com, Starsports
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Dappleganger on April 14, 2018, 07:32:49 PM
Close game against the Wiz...
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 15, 2018, 05:42:53 PM
Good fourth-quarter explosion by the Raptors, leaky roof & all.  Excellent passing and a pair of three pointers did the job.  Wright, Miles, Anunoby, Ibaka, and of course, Lowry & DeRozan who took on the role of assisters rather than scorers.  Good work on their part in facilitating the plays.

114-106 final score. The 'curse' of losing opening playoff round games is definitely broken.  Way to go, Raptors!

Game recap:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-washington-wizards-game-1-1.4620182

Game 2 goes Tuesday here.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 15, 2018, 05:55:34 PM
The bench unit: They've been doing it all year, and demonstrated this none more aptly in yesterday's fourth-quarter offensive outburst: (minus the injured VanVleet)

The strong play of the bench has allowed Casey to keep his starters fresh and manage their workloads. At times, DeRozan and Lowry aren't even needed in the fourth quarter, simply because the second unit has put the game away.

But Raptor fans have also become accustomed to seeing a combination of both units on the floor in crunch time a testament to the amount of confidence the coaching staff has in the bench.

Casey says that DeRozan and Lowry always used to feel like they needed to make the clutch plays, whereas now they have faith in other guys to step up.


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-bench-mob-nba-hit-list-1.4609897 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-bench-mob-nba-hit-list-1.4609897)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 18, 2018, 03:39:00 AM
Whoa!

You can say that again.  More like Wow!

The Toronto Raptors upended the Washington Wizards 130-119 in Game 2 of this Eastern Conference First Round playoffs.  That gives Toronto a 2-0 lead in the series.

To top it all off, the Raptors set a playoff franchise record of 44 points in the first quarter. Some could say the game was over right there.  The Raptors made short work of the Wizards game plan, if Washington even had one that is, as Toronto got contributions from nearly every player on that court and on that bench.

DeMar DeRozan's 37 points, Lowry's 12 assists, Valenciunas' 19 points & 14 rebounds, Wright's 11 points, Anunoby's defence, the list goes on.

All in all, a consistent and persistent effort from the Toronto Raptors that the Wizards had no chance of matching.  That's simply because when on winning mode, the Raptors are among the best at it.  Period.

Game 3 goes Friday in Washington.

GO RAPTORS!


https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-impressive-building-lead-fighting-adversity-game-2/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-impressive-building-lead-fighting-adversity-game-2/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 21, 2018, 06:11:58 PM
Deja vu?  Ghost of playoffs past?

Let's hope not.  The Raptors' 122-103 loss to the Wizards in Game 3 last night brought back trepidation among Toronto basketball followers. 

As if the turnovers (19) weren't bad enough, members of the bench unit were deplorably worse. Poeltl, Siakam, Miles, Wright, et al.  They provided little to no support for DeRozan & Lowry on court, and a true lack of competitiveness out there in a game they should have won.

Far from grasping their 2 games to 0 hold on the Wizards, it is now 2 games to 1, with Gqme 4 on Sunday here at the Capital One Arena.  A serious shoring up of play is required for the Raptors if they want to make this series easier on themselves.  It's up to them, not the Wizards.

Fred.VanVleet continues to remain absent from playing due to shoulder injury.

Game recap:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-old-habits-resurface-ugly-game-3-loss-wizards/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-old-habits-resurface-ugly-game-3-loss-wizards/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on April 29, 2018, 04:03:03 PM

Well, third time's the charm I hope.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 29, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
The Raptors defeated the Wizards 102-92 in Washington Friday night to take the Quarter-final 4 games to 2, thanks to a fourth quarter surge by the Raptors bench unit.  They will now face LeBron James & his Cleveland Cavs in the Semi-final.  Cleveland won their Quarter-final 4 games to 3 over the Indiana Pacers.

Toronto won both games 5 & 6 (in Toronto and then in Washington, respectively) to take it all. 

The big question now becomes, can the Raptors beat James & co.?  With their bench in full force, the Raptors should give the Cavs a run for the court, figure out a way around James, stay offensively sharp, and make life generally miserable for #23's team.

Can they do it?  We'll wait and see.  Game 1 begins Tuesday May 2 @8pm at the ACC here in Toronto.

GO RAPTORS!


Source:   ESPN.com,  Sportsnet
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 01, 2018, 11:30:57 PM

I'm really looking forward to Highlander's next "Man we should really thank Tim Leiweike more for putting together such great teams" nonsense.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 01, 2018, 11:34:39 PM

Has a coach ever been fired mid-series before? Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 02, 2018, 12:21:36 AM
I know Casey is flawed, but surely that 4th quarter is largely on the players?

The inability to make any shots in the fourth was criminal.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 02, 2018, 03:23:10 AM
Well, they"ll have another shot at it for Game 2 Thursday night.  Raptors better win one at home at least before heading out for Games 3 & 4 at the Quicken Loans Arena.

The Cavs definitely stole this one, and it wasn't supposed to end this way.  It's a case of the Raptors not doing what they had to do to get it done rather then the Cavs getting lucky:

Quote
I think, considering the circumstances, we definitely stole one, said Cavaliers head coach Ty Lue. I dont think we played our best game and I think they know that as well.

Game story:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-game-1-loss-cavs-raises-questions-fosters-doubts/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-game-1-loss-cavs-raises-questions-fosters-doubts/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: TimKerr on May 02, 2018, 09:07:46 AM

Has a coach ever been fired mid-series before? Asking for a friend.

How about mid game????
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 02, 2018, 05:56:23 PM
I know Casey is flawed, but surely that 4th quarter is largely on the players?

I think there's enough blame to go around and you can't fire the players.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Joe S. on May 03, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
It strikes me that the raptors may be the senators of the NBA.

Keep in mind I know next to nothing about the basketball.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2018, 08:34:54 PM
By all accounts this is their best chance to get to the finals and they're crapping the bed again. Guess it's time to blow it up?  They aren't done yet but they show no signs of this going past 4 games after this effort in a must win tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 06, 2018, 02:52:58 AM
We can kiss the Raptors goodbye.  Hear that Mr. Marchand?  Oh wait, this isn't hockey, it's basketball...

..make that LeBron James basketball. Big #23 beat the Raptors in the last few seconds remaining in regulation with the final score, a heartbreaking 105-103 in favour of the Cavs Saturday night.

The Raptors did everything right throwing whatever they could at the Cavs but the kitchen sink.  They contained LeBron or think they did, but, alas, the best player in the game will always find a flaw and run with it, which is exactly what Monsieur James did.

Over.  Finit.  Cavs now lead 3 games to 0. It will take a miracle and a half for Toronto to prevent elimination so soon, so fast.  Better still, it will take a perfect game on all fronts to even eke out a win, otherwise consider it kaput.

Game story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2018/05/05/raptors-drop-game-3-to-cavaliers-at-the-buzzer.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2018/05/05/raptors-drop-game-3-to-cavaliers-at-the-buzzer.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 06, 2018, 03:12:43 AM
What's really wrong with the Toronto Raptors.  Hint:  It starts with the "D...

The Raptors defence was better than its been for most of the series on Saturday night. And DeRozan showed flashes of defensive prowess. Matched a couple of times against James, DeRozan more than once played some active, physical, heady defence. But showing those flashes actually made his overall defensive performance even more of a disappointment. Those flashing only confirmed that DeRozan clearly has the all the tools to do the job. Its something else thats lacking. Call it desire, interest, passion. Defence has never been DeRozans thing. And its killing his team.

The Raptors, who ranked fifth in the league in defensive rating during the regular season, came into Saturdays Game 3 ranked 13th of 16 playoff teams in the same stat. Its a recurring pattern. Five straight years the Raptors have been in the playoffs. And five straight years their defence has regressed in the post-season. Thursdays thud of a Game 2 loss, wherein the Cavaliers shot 60 per cent from the field and committed a mere three turnovers, was a particularly egregious case in point.

More here:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2018/05/05/raptors-shaky-defence-the-real-issue-here.html (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2018/05/05/raptors-shaky-defence-the-real-issue-here.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: L K on May 07, 2018, 10:33:40 PM
Ugh..........time for big changes.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 07, 2018, 11:32:58 PM
Ugh..........time for big changes.
Yup they've been together for 5 years now and still can't get it down. Swept in back to back series. Horrible effort tonight to. Time for a major change.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: cabber24 on May 08, 2018, 03:04:14 PM
I regret watching the 4th quarter of Game 1 vs Clevand the only basketball I watched this year.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 09, 2018, 08:05:29 AM

I can't believe somebody actually thought that this kind of humour would work anywhere but in Canada.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 09, 2018, 08:11:44 AM
One of the reasons for but not the only one...

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 09, 2018, 08:18:04 AM
Initiating change needs to start somewhere...

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 11, 2018, 11:26:29 AM
Casey fired.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Zee on May 11, 2018, 11:29:01 AM
MLSE couldn't have waited 1 more day to just let the city focus on Dubas?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 11, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
MLSE couldn't have waited 1 more day to just let the city focus on Dubas?

There's literally nothing the Raptors could do that would overshadow the Leafs hiring a new GM. If anything they might have done this today to bury the Casey story.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Zee on May 11, 2018, 11:43:16 AM
MLSE couldn't have waited 1 more day to just let the city focus on Dubas?

There's literally nothing the Raptors could do that would overshadow the Leafs hiring a new GM. If anything they might have done this today to bury the Casey story.
That's a good point , I could care less about the NBA but I didn't want my Overdrive listening experience tonight clouded with any Raptors talk.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on May 11, 2018, 11:53:33 AM
MLSE couldn't have waited 1 more day to just let the city focus on Dubas?

There's literally nothing the Raptors could do that would overshadow the Leafs hiring a new GM. If anything they might have done this today to bury the Casey story.
That's a good point , I could care less about the NBA but I didn't want my Overdrive listening experience tonight clouded with any Raptors talk.

It's headlined by hockey dudes, so I think we're safe. Might get a call in from Sam Mitchell during the slow hour.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: cabber24 on May 11, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Casey fired.
I use to throw the odd pumpkin around as kid on halloween. The raptors lost me when Antonio Davis started talking about the metric system.

Seriously does anyone else remember this, totally ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Zee on May 11, 2018, 12:15:57 PM
Hey I don't follow the Raptors at all, but I know Ujiri is the president and they have some other dude that's actually the GM. Everything that ever happens though it seems like Ujiri is making all the moves (based on all the interviews and press coverage). So what the hell does the GM actually do if Ujiri is the guy who's responsible for all the player acquisitions and coaching decision?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 11, 2018, 12:21:58 PM

I wonder how many times someone's won coach of the year and been fired in the same year. In any sport.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Frank E on May 11, 2018, 12:51:28 PM
Word is that Casey had refused to take a family vacation very near to where Kyle Lowry spends his summers.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Bates on May 11, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
I don't know that answer but Overdrive had a guy on yesterday that it happened to. I assume very rare??

I wonder how many times someone's won coach of the year and been fired in the same year. In any sport.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: pmrules on May 11, 2018, 12:54:53 PM
I don't know that answer but Overdrive had a guy on yesterday that it happened to. I assume very rare??

I wonder how many times someone's won coach of the year and been fired in the same year. In any sport.

George Karl...
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Coco-puffs on May 11, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
I don't know that answer but Overdrive had a guy on yesterday that it happened to. I assume very rare??

I wonder how many times someone's won coach of the year and been fired in the same year. In any sport.

George Karl...

In Hockey, I believe Ted Nolan won Coach of the Year with the Sabres and got canned back in the 90's.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on May 14, 2018, 12:05:12 PM

This speaks to me.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 14, 2018, 12:22:10 PM

This speaks to me.


Aesthetic ("and scientifically accurate") but unappealing. 

I prefer the dino version.  Otherwise, that particular Raptors logo needs to be redone differently, in it's entirety.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 14, 2018, 12:35:12 PM

I still never understood why the Dinosaur was wearing sneakers.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on May 14, 2018, 12:56:40 PM
Velociraptors (and that family line) had feathers! T-rexes too!

Jurassic Park popularized the 'raptor' look; Michael Crichton/Stephen Spielberg were aware of the research and fossil record on feathers at that time but opted for the classic lizard skin look because it would be more cool/scary. They also chose velociraptor instead of the more cumbersome to pronounce and less-cool-sounding Deinonychus that the book raptor was based off of.

The Toronto NBA team, if I recall correctly, came down to the Raptors or the T-rexes largely because of that film's popularity at the time.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 14, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
The Toronto NBA team, if I recall correctly, came down to the Raptors or the T-rexes largely because of that film's popularity at the time.

I think T-Rexes was in the running at one point but the actual runner-up was "Towers" as far as I can recall.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on May 14, 2018, 05:47:09 PM
The Toronto NBA team, if I recall correctly, came down to the Raptors or the T-rexes largely because of that film's popularity at the time.

I think T-Rexes was in the running at one point but the actual runner-up was "Towers" as far as I can recall.

You're right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Raptors)!

Beavers was also an option, so I'm kind of wondering if these were the Boaty McBoatfaces of their era.
http://www.nba.com/raptors/history/raptors_history.html

The citation doesn't seem to reference Towers for some reason.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 14, 2018, 05:53:17 PM

The other bit of useless trivia I know about that expansion and team names is I think the Grizzlies were going to be called the Mounties but it turned out the RCMP had sold their merchandizing rights to Disney and Disney wouldn't allow it.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 28, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
From an older article:
Mike D"Antoni, coach of the NBA's Houston Rockets, called Casey's firing "laughable":

(P.S.  It's only an opinion)

Quote
"I'm not criticizing anyone, everybody has their reasons for making decisions, D'Antoni said. It's just the nature of the business, but it's kind of laughable."


http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/houston-rockets-mike-dantoni-toronto-raptors-firing-dwane-casey-coach-of-year-nba-playoffs/9xsoj8f95w8s1fzy23e8d6lmd
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 28, 2018, 02:24:02 AM
Speaking of the Raptors, make that rumours...

Looks like the rumour mill is churning to the idea of trading Lowry, DeRozan (includes Valenciunas & Ibaka):

Masai Ujiri fired Dwane Casey and is not expected to limit his shakeup to only one move. Of course theres a better chance DeRozan does return, but Toronto will explore all options, per multiple league sources.

DeRozan, Lowry and Jonas Valanciunas will likely garner the most interest on the market, though Ujiri could look to cut salary in the form of top disappointment Serge Ibaka or Norman Powell, who is about to see his salary take a leap as his extension kicks in.


https://ca.yahoo.com/sports/news/nba-trade-rumors-raptors-exploring-225541532.html (https://ca.yahoo.com/sports/news/nba-trade-rumors-raptors-exploring-225541532.html)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 28, 2018, 02:34:06 AM
Congratulations to DeMar DeRozan on being named to the All-NBA second team.

DeMar DeRozan received a big honour on Thursday afternoon, being named to the All-NBA second team.

Only Vince Carter (2001) and Chris Bosh (2007) had previously earned second-team recognition while members of the Raptors. DeRozan (2017) and Kyle Lowry (2016) previously were named to the third team. DeRozan and Carter (third-team, 2000) are now the only Raptors to make multiple All-NBA squads.


http://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-derozan-named-to-all-nba-second-team-but-will-he-be-back (http://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-derozan-named-to-all-nba-second-team-but-will-he-be-back)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 29, 2018, 11:46:25 PM
So it looks like Bryan Colangelo created a bunch of fake twitter accounts that he then used to defend his job performance(and choice of shirts), criticize other execs(including Ujiri) and dish dirt on players.

Have to admit, that's another notch in the NBA's column for entertainment value.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on May 30, 2018, 07:24:37 AM
So it looks like Bryan Colangelo created a bunch of fake twitter accounts that he then used to defend his job performance(and choice of shirts), criticize other execs(including Ujiri) and dish dirt on players.

Have to admit, that's another notch in the NBA's column for entertainment value.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

I am entertained. It is next level pettiness.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 30, 2018, 08:52:16 AM
Oh, it all makes sense now. @stevesimmons is Mark Hunter's burner account.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Zee on May 30, 2018, 10:36:31 AM
Oh, it all makes sense now. @stevesimmons is Mark Hunter's burner account.

I wouldn't be surprised if Simmons had "burner" accounts of his own, except for the fact he's probably not techie at all and wouldn't even know how to set one up.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 30, 2018, 10:42:25 AM
Oh, it all makes sense now. @stevesimmons is Mark Hunter's burner account.

I wouldn't be surprised if Simmons had "burner" accounts of his own, except for the fact he's probably not techie at all and wouldn't even know how to set one up.

Nah, someone like Simmons is just fine saying the dumb things he says on his regular account.

But I don't doubt for a second that a good number of NHL GMs probably have burner accounts, they're likely only using them to observe and not to trash their own players though.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 01, 2018, 04:19:27 AM
The Lebron James sweepstakes begin:  The quest for Lebron & the Raptors...

Much speculation has been made about the fact that Lebron James will become a free agent come July 1st of this year.  As of right now, James' Cavaliers will be battling Curry's Warriors in the NBA Final.

Will they or won't they?  The Raptors, that is.  Such as in luring James north of the border.A far-fetched improbable undertaking?  Not quite.  The Raptors need to shed salary (Ibaka, Powell, etc.) in order to even consider such a signing in the first place.

Besides all of that, would LeBron choose to play here?

Read all about the how and the why:
https://raptorsrapture.com/2018/05/31/the-official-pitch-for-lebron-james-to-join-the-toronto-raptors/ (https://raptorsrapture.com/2018/05/31/the-official-pitch-for-lebron-james-to-join-the-toronto-raptors/)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on June 07, 2018, 12:37:00 PM

For as long as man has walked upon this earth, he has blamed a woman for his own mistakes.  ::)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on June 07, 2018, 12:42:59 PM

Although, to be fair, the story is a lot funnier if it was his wife.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: CarltonTheBear on June 07, 2018, 12:58:02 PM
For as long as man has walked upon this earth, he has blamed a woman for his own mistakes.  ::)

I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

What I do think is a little crappy is Bryan taking over that bus, reversing it over her, and then driving forward again:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfGl-dFW4AAUQ70.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: OldTimeHockey on June 07, 2018, 03:33:56 PM

Although, to be fair, the story is a lot funnier if it was his wife.

Amen!
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: cabber24 on June 07, 2018, 04:03:57 PM
For as long as man has walked upon this earth, he has blamed a woman for his own mistakes.  ::)

I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

What I do think is a little crappy is Bryan taking over that bus, reversing it over her, and then driving forward again:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfGl-dFW4AAUQ70.jpg)
Yeah, I'm with you Carlton on this one. Nothing else matters in the grand scheme of things then what happens at home with your family. This press release is awful and cringe worthy. I can't imagine the thought process behind this, family first. Take one for the team. Not a big fan of this guy.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: herman on June 07, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

The evidence was those accounts listed what appeared to be her phone number as the recovery number. And obviously these 'interviews' with lawyers.

Of course, after Colangelo was directly asked about 2 of the 5 accounts, the unmentioned 3 went dark immediately.

So either

a) Barbara was running the accounts and was tipped off by whoever first fielded the call from the Sixer's staff (i.e. they knew of its existence)

b) Barbara was running the accounts, and after going through a couple, Bryan noticed they revealed information that he had shared with her in confidence/frustration and raised the concern to her immediately

c) Bryan was running the accounts through Barbara all along and in an effort to salvage his job and reputation, used his patsy.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 07, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

The evidence was those accounts listed what appeared to be her phone number as the recovery number. And obviously these 'interviews' with lawyers.

Of course, after Colangelo was directly asked about 2 of the 5 accounts, the unmentioned 3 went dark immediately.

So either

a) Barbara was running the accounts and was tipped off by whoever first fielded the call from the Sixer's staff (i.e. they knew of its existence)

b) Barbara was running the accounts, and after going through a couple, Bryan noticed they revealed information that he had shared with her in confidence/frustration and raised the concern to her immediately

c) Bryan was running the accounts through Barbara all along and in an effort to salvage his job and reputation, used his patsy.


No doubt the final answer.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Deebo on June 08, 2018, 12:15:00 PM
I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

The evidence was those accounts listed what appeared to be her phone number as the recovery number. And obviously these 'interviews' with lawyers.

Of course, after Colangelo was directly asked about 2 of the 5 accounts, the unmentioned 3 went dark immediately.

So either

a) Barbara was running the accounts and was tipped off by whoever first fielded the call from the Sixer's staff (i.e. they knew of its existence)

b) Barbara was running the accounts, and after going through a couple, Bryan noticed they revealed information that he had shared with her in confidence/frustration and raised the concern to her immediately

c) Bryan was running the accounts through Barbara all along and in an effort to salvage his job and reputation, used his patsy.

If it was c), and an interview was part of the evidence, wouldn't that suggest that Barbara was okay with being being the patsy?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Deebo on June 08, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
I'm ok with her getting thrown under a bus a little. There is legit evidence that suggests it was her and not Bryan, isn't there?

The evidence was those accounts listed what appeared to be her phone number as the recovery number. And obviously these 'interviews' with lawyers.

Of course, after Colangelo was directly asked about 2 of the 5 accounts, the unmentioned 3 went dark immediately.

So either

a) Barbara was running the accounts and was tipped off by whoever first fielded the call from the Sixer's staff (i.e. they knew of its existence)

b) Barbara was running the accounts, and after going through a couple, Bryan noticed they revealed information that he had shared with her in confidence/frustration and raised the concern to her immediately

c) Bryan was running the accounts through Barbara all along and in an effort to salvage his job and reputation, used his patsy.


No doubt the final answer.

Why "no doubt"?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Nik the Trik on June 08, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
If it was c), and an interview was part of the evidence, wouldn't that suggest that Barbara was okay with being being the patsy?

And, to that point, if your spouse did something that might seriously jeopardize their future career but you could take the hit at no real personal cost isn't it a pretty natural instinct to want to do that?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: Deebo on June 12, 2018, 11:27:36 AM
Woj reporting the Raptors have decided on Nick Nurse as the new head coach.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
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Title: Re: 2017-2018 Toronto Raptors Thread: "O.G...Change Is In the Air!"
Post by: hockeyfan1 on August 08, 2018, 02:58:41 AM
Raptors recently signed C Greg Monroe, formerly of the Boston Celtics, to a one year $2.2M contract.  Monroe, while a nine-year veteran, will provide the Raptors with good rebounding & passing and also gives the Raptors more flexibility at the centre position.

Story:
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-free-agent-center-greg-monroe-agrees-1-year-2-2m-deal-raptors-192815227.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-free-agent-center-greg-monroe-agrees-1-year-2-2m-deal-raptors-192815227.html)