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Title: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
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10-15-1, 21 points | 11-10-5, 27 points

Projected Lines

Duchene-Mitchell-Rantanen
Bourque-MacKinnon-Comeau
Landeskog-Soderberg-Grigorenko
Martinsen-Colborne-Iginla

Zadorov-Barrie
Beauchemin-Goloubef
Tyutin-Wiercioch

Varlamov
             
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Martin-Smith-Soshnikov

Rielly-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Carrick
Hunwick-Polak

Bibeau

Scratches

Eric Gelinas
Cody McLeod
      
Frank Corrado
Martin Marincin
Josh Leivo

Game Notes

COL
•Varlamov (5-12-0, 3.34 GAA, .897 Sv%) likely starts, he had a .625 Sv% in 32:48 minutes of action last night
•The Avs are of course coming off an embarrassing 10-1 loss last night against Montreal
•I'm not sure if there will be line shuffling after their last game, but their current lines are something else. John '1C' Mitchell cleared waivers about a month ago
•Remember when Colorado traded ROR because they had too many centres?
•Colorado is currently last in the league

TOR
•Bibeau is poised to make his first career NHL start
•Babcock confirmed that Carrick will replace Marincin, who left last nights game early
•He also confirmed that Nylander will play with Matthews
•Leivo will remain out

Injuries

•Erik Johnson - Leg - Injured Reserve
      
•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - Out indefinitely
•Stephane Robidas - Old - Out indefinitely
•Marincin - Undisclosed - Out Sunday

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: TBLeafer on December 11, 2016, 01:25:10 PM
Hey look, Corrado has company. :)
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Nik the Trik on December 11, 2016, 01:28:14 PM

Admittedly I'm not watching Avs games so I can't speak to defensive responsibilities but Duchene is a good faceoff guy and has been taking them this year. So the extent to which he's a winger is, at least, somewhat blurred.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 01:36:27 PM

Admittedly I'm not watching Avs games so I can't speak to defensive responsibilities but Duchene is a good faceoff guy and has been taking them this year. So the extent to which he's a winger is, at least, somewhat blurred.

The kind of errors that didn't happen when herman was in charge.

Thanks for the hard work.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Nik the Trik on December 11, 2016, 01:44:37 PM
The kind of errors that didn't happen when herman was in charge.

Thanks for the hard work.

I'm not saying CtB is wrong exactly. The Avs may be shuffling Duchene between the wing and center or he may be taking some draws and then playing the wing(he's taking about 9 draws a game, whereas someone like Bozak is taking 16 per).

I'm just saying that the Avs do have two pretty good C's in Mackinnon/Duchene. They very well might not be using them in that way though. 
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
I'm just saying that the Avs do have two pretty good C's in Mackinnon/Duchene. They very well might not be using them in that way though. 

Yeah, that was more-so my point. Duchene certainly hasn't been fully converted to a winger but I've seen line-ups from Colorado all season long and he's often been listed as the winger. I've found that very strange.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Dappleganger on December 11, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
FWIW Duchene was on the wing last game.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: disco on December 11, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
Hopefully tonight will be the start of locking down that back-up position for the Biebs. One solid performance and he's almost there.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: freer on December 11, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
We have not been very good on the second half of back to back.

COL, had there asses handed to them last night. I think it is going to be high scoring game. I hope that the Leafs can win

Go leafs Go
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 03:12:04 PM
The kind of errors that didn't happen when herman was in charge.

Thanks for the hard work.

I'm not saying CtB is wrong exactly. The Avs may be shuffling Duchene between the wing and center or he may be taking some draws and then playing the wing(he's taking about 9 draws a game, whereas someone like Bozak is taking 16 per).

I'm just saying that the Avs do have two pretty good C's in Mackinnon/Duchene. They very well might not be using them in that way though.

Just to be clear, I was just joking.   The first comment, not the appreciation comment, that was sincere.

I agree with your point on Duchene.  I think he's underutilized playing on the wing.  It's also strange to see John Mitchell as your "#1" center.  Particularly with his rocking 1 point (1 goal) in 21 games this year.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: puckinthehead on December 11, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
These two lines are killer good.

JVR-Bozak-Marner
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander

Hope Bibeau has a good first game, give the team a reason to play for him. We need a good back-up.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Kaberle15 on December 11, 2016, 04:22:56 PM
Avs should be fire up after that 10-1 Loss.

Hopping for a Bibeau win. Go Kids Go!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 04:33:50 PM
So do we all have Bibeau Fever then?

(Sorry. Someone had to say it)
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 05:06:32 PM
FWIW Duchene was on the wing last game.


Haha in your face LK!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 05:27:52 PM
FWIW Duchene was on the wing last game.


Haha in your face LK!

What, are we operating on facts now?  Duchene may have played on the wing last night, but I feel that he didn't.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on December 11, 2016, 06:42:52 PM
Go Bibeau, lets hope you are the back up and step up man we have been looking for.

Win this one for Larry, an old friend and Notre Dame guy who died last night. Used to play with Joe the Throw.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 06:43:10 PM
Noted first line pivot John Mitchell.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Gerald The Duck on December 11, 2016, 06:59:48 PM
It really sucks that Iginla's 1500th game was probably one of if not the worst loss he's ever been a part of.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 07:03:00 PM
For all the stream hounds, the game is free on NHL.com.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:09:45 PM
I miss the days when the anthem wasn't a pop show.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 07:13:38 PM
Woah, woah, woah, woah...

...Marner's on the 4th line?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Woah, woah, woah, woah...

...Marner's on the 4th line?

Babcock!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
I miss the days when the anthem wasn't a pop show.

Have to say, as a non USA/Canadian, I've never really got the anthem thing. I can understand it at international events (world cups, Olympics, world championships etc). Like you don't get a national anthem before Manchester United v Chelsea in the soccer or even Ulster v Toulouse in the European Club rugby championships.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 07:19:24 PM
I miss the days when the anthem wasn't a pop show.

Have to say, as a non USA/Canadian, I've never really got the anthem thing. I can understand it at international events (world cups, Olympics, world championships etc). Like you don't get a national anthem before Manchester United v Chelsea in the soccer or even Ulster v Toulouse in the European Club rugby championships.

As a Scotsman, I completely agree. It's an odd NA tradition.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:21:26 PM
Leafs have looked really good aside from the powerplay.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Dappleganger on December 11, 2016, 07:23:23 PM
I have to say it, Bibeau's helmet is amazing.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on December 11, 2016, 07:24:10 PM
Woah, woah, woah, woah...

...Marner's on the 4th line?

That spot on the 4th line seems to be the "you're struggling, and I'm not sure where else to put you in the lineup right now" spot.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:25:09 PM
Woah, woah, woah, woah...

...Marner's on the 4th line?

That spot on the 4th line seems to be the "you're struggling, and I'm not sure where else to put you in the lineup right now" spot.

It seems unconventional but maybe play the Nylander/Marner's with Kadri or Matthews instead of Martin?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on December 11, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
It seems unconventional but maybe play the Nylander/Marner's with Kadri or Matthews instead of Martin?  Just a thought.

Pfft. That makes too much sense to make sense.

EDIT: I sort of understood it when Nylander first ended up there - he was working through a minor injury, so, using him a little less could be justified. This time? At best, you can say it's the result of a short turnaround. Otherwise, there's no real justification for dropping him on that line.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
The Matthews line has been absolutely buzzing tonight
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 11, 2016, 07:33:57 PM
Woah, woah, woah, woah...

...Marner's on the 4th line?

That spot on the 4th line seems to be the "you're struggling, and I'm not sure where else to put you in the lineup right now" spot.

Some of you will probably disagree but it's deserving. Haven't been impressed with Marner's game lately either. You can't take nights off and ya there are times he shows the occasional flash and everyone praises him but for the most part he has been pretty quiet lately. From what I've seen this year I couldn't be more happier with the rookies but I agree with Bacock if you wanna be an elite player you have to bring it most shifts. Marner's size is an issue and I see it on most nights. Personally I think he needs to skate with the puck more. Far too often he'll dump it in or throw it out of his own end when he could carry the puck. Nylander slumped a bit and he was demoted to the 4th line but personally I think he was our best player for the first 15 games. Matthews although he slumped was noticeable and is most nights. Babcock should do this with all his players even the vets.You wanna take some nights off either sit in the press box or go to the 4th line.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:43:21 PM
Why is Greg Millen our colour commentator when he jokes about Kadri diving on a blatant penalty?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: lamajama on December 11, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
I hope this isn't one of those "Leafs outplay by a wide margin and lose anyway" games....
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 07:48:45 PM
They just released an episode of The Leaf that focuses on Bozak as a veteran leader.

Quite the veteran penalty that has ruined a great period.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
Shots are 21-8 and there were a number of good scoring chances....
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Why is Greg Millen our colour commentator when he jokes about Kadri diving on a blatant penalty?

Because something, something the Laffs are the only team that isn't allowed even slightly homer'ish local announcers.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: BrownRolo on December 11, 2016, 07:54:17 PM
Mike Johnson gets fired and somehow Millen still has a job. I don't get it.

I wish Miller and Ferraro did every Leafs game. They are the best.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Bibeau might have stopped that had Hunwick not taken one of his legs away.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 08:11:05 PM
Bibeau might have stopped that had Hunwick not taken one of his legs away.

Not every goal against requires a player to be singled out and dumped on. This is a trend I've started seeing in the gdts of  late, and it's getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
The Leafs aren't going to score tonight by the looks of things
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
There's Polak's nightly icing
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
Bibeau might have stopped that had Hunwick not taken one of his legs away.

Not every goal against requires a player to be singled out and dumped on. This is a trend I've started seeing in the gdts of  late, and it's getting out of hand.

Would you like to see the replay?

I didn't say Hunwick should be shot, but he did clearly take Bibeau out on that goal.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 08:18:40 PM
Figures that the Leafs face good goaltending after they lay a massive egg in front of Montreal.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 08:20:33 PM
Haha remember when Todd McLellan didn't explain the qualification rules to his team?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 08:20:52 PM
Bibeau might have stopped that had Hunwick not taken one of his legs away.

Not every goal against requires a player to be singled out and dumped on. This is a trend I've started seeing in the gdts of  late, and it's getting out of hand.

Would you like to see the replay?

I didn't say Hunwick should be shot, but he did clearly take Bibeau out on that goal.

I don't need to see the replay. I have no doubt that Hunwick was doing whatever he could in the scramble in the crease, and hey, shit happens. The fact of the matter is that duchene made a beautiful seeing eye play to set up the goal, and if you're desperate to find a scapegoat every time, you'll find it - but unless it was a glaring error, I don't see why it's necessary to hang a leaf with it.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 08:24:11 PM
I don't read it as hanging anyone or picking a scapegoat. It's a simply statement of fact - If Hunwick hadn't taken Bibeau's leg he may have been able to spin round and get across to make the save.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on December 11, 2016, 08:34:31 PM
Meh
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 08:45:25 PM
Man I've tried 8 or 9 different streams tonite and they are all crummy.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 08:47:13 PM
Man I've tried 8 or 9 different streams tonite and they are all crummy.

I'll PM you a good one.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Gerald The Duck on December 11, 2016, 08:47:43 PM
Man I've tried 8 or 9 different streams tonite and they are all crummy.

For all the stream hounds, the game is free on NHL.com.

 8) Although I'm watching on TV so I can't confirm
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 09:16:24 PM
Man I've tried 8 or 9 different streams tonite and they are all crummy.

I'll PM you a good one.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
I'm genuinely not sure why MacKinnon isn't like a top-10 player in the world right now.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 09:20:03 PM
Wow.  That was impressive, Mackinnon.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 11, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Ouch...goal and a 4-minute PP.  Nice job Komarov

This team has trouble scoring at times.  Time to put Nylander, Marner and Matthews all on the 4th line.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 09:22:56 PM
Doesn't the goal burn two minutes off the penalty?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on December 11, 2016, 09:26:16 PM
Doesn't the goal burn two minutes off the penalty?

They were already on a powerplay.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on December 11, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
Doesn't the goal burn two minutes off the penalty?

Nope. Just burns the rest of the PP they were already on.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on December 11, 2016, 09:27:15 PM
So, tonight's game is sort of the flip side of last night's? Cool.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:27:24 PM
Doesn't the goal burn two minutes off the penalty?

Yeah, I don't get how that worked. (edit: as others have said, we were on a PP of course already)

Also, time for my regularly scheduled "extra 2 minutes for drawing blood is completely asinine" comment.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: lamajama on December 11, 2016, 09:29:57 PM
So what is the general consensus on Bibeau?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 09:30:02 PM
Thanks for the clarification lads, sorry for scapegoating the referee McGarnagle. ;)
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on December 11, 2016, 09:30:23 PM
Doesn't the goal burn two minutes off the penalty?

Yeah, I don't get how that worked. (edit: as others have said, we were on a PP of course already)

Also, time for my regularly scheduled "extra 2 minutes for drawing blood is completely asinine" comment.

I think the puck over the glass penalty is worse.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:32:01 PM
So what is the general consensus on Bibeau?

He's looked ok. Can't really fault on either goal.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
I think the puck over the glass penalty is worse.

I'd disagree only because I do think that throwing the puck over the glass should be penalized in some way, but it should be treated like icings not given 2 minutes.

Drawing blood is a completely random occurrence.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:33:38 PM
Thanks for the clarification lads, sorry for scapegoating the referee McGarnagle. ;)

Lol, sorry if I came across too strong. You're a solid GDT'er.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
Wait, why was the play blown? The Leafs had possession that entire time.

edit: oh, the net was off. Nevermind.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:36:42 PM
It'll be hard not to give the MOTM to varlamov.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on December 11, 2016, 09:37:15 PM
I think the puck over the glass penalty is worse.

I'd disagree only because I do think that throwing the puck over the glass should be penalized in some way, but it should be treated like icings not given 2 minutes.

Drawing blood is a completely random occurrence.

Ya that would make sense. But too often guys do it by accident and the punishment for that is the same as the punishment for checking a guy from behind.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
JAKE!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:37:59 PM
It'll be hard not to give the MOTM to varlamov.

Gardiner just secured it for me. He was having a great game prior to that too.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 09:38:06 PM
We deserved that.  Now get the second boys!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
It'll be hard not to give the MOTM to varlamov.

Gardiner just secured it for me. He was having a great game prior to that too.

Intent was to jinx varlamov. It worked.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 09:40:35 PM
Oh Mitch .... shoot it!!!!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 11, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
Ugh, brutal finish to a frustrating game.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:41:18 PM
Ah, we deserved better. Oh well. They played well, hot goalie.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 11, 2016, 09:43:39 PM
Ugh, brutal finish to a frustrating game.

Yeah, but that 3- or 4-minute sequence there at the end was pretty exciting.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 11, 2016, 09:47:08 PM
You know when you suck it seems like you run into some hot goalies a lot, but the reality is your team has little finish.

Recently they've run into Miller, Johnson, Dubnyk, Ward and Varlamov who have all been scorching and they've ruined some pretty good outings by this talented Leafs team.

I still think they're better than the standings reflect for now.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on December 11, 2016, 09:50:37 PM
You know when you suck it seems like you run into some hot goalies a lot, but the reality is your team has little finish.

Recently they've run into Miller, Johnson, Dubnyk, Ward and Varlamov who have all been scorching and they've ruined some pretty good outings by this talented Leafs team.

I still think they're better than the standings reflect for now.

I agree and once this team matures some the goals will start to go in. In the mean time you have to admit this is a fun team to watch.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: McGarnagle on December 11, 2016, 09:51:41 PM
I think the best way they can add offense at this point is upgrades on the back end. Gardiner is separating himself as the best offensive D man on the team; and probably the best overall - and ideally, he's a #3.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Tigger on December 11, 2016, 09:53:06 PM
Martin with 7:28 toi, yeah.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on December 11, 2016, 09:58:39 PM
I still think they're better than the standings reflect for now.

I'm not so sure. They're more talented, sure, but in terms of the quality of their performances, most of the underlying numbers point to a team that has neither been particularly lucky or unlucky overall. Their record is probably right around where it should be.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: wnc096 on December 12, 2016, 01:06:54 AM
I think the best way they can add offense at this point is upgrades on the back end. Gardiner is separating himself as the best offensive D man on the team; and probably the best overall - and ideally, he's a #3.

Agreed.  At the moment their d is made up of 3 #3's and 3 #7's.  For a rush team... other than gardiner no one can make a stretch pass
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on December 12, 2016, 03:18:55 AM
Solid debut for Bibeau.  Good for him.  Keep on improving.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on December 12, 2016, 04:26:39 AM
Coach Babcock talks Bibeau:

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3459179/2004531
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: TBLeafer on December 12, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
There were a ton of high danger scoring chances the Leafs had.

Varlamov made up for his Saturday stinker.

Oh well, back to an 82 point pace for the time being.
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: nutman on December 12, 2016, 12:59:00 PM
I was able to only go on sunday before noon and there was no GDT but what I was going to say is I was not going to watch the game , as col got it handed to them the night before, and for the most part teams most often do a bounce back from games like that. I would have bet the farm on a leaf loss. But just the same 52 shots, WOW!!!
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Crake on December 12, 2016, 03:08:49 PM
I think the best way they can add offense at this point is upgrades on the back end. Gardiner is separating himself as the best offensive D man on the team; and probably the best overall - and ideally, he's a #3.

Agreed.  At the moment their d is made up of 3 #3's and 3 #7's.  For a rush team... other than gardiner no one can make a stretch pass
So in your opinion neither Carrick or Marincin are top 6 dmen and both should regularly be in the press box?
Title: Re: Avs @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: wnc096 on December 12, 2016, 11:40:48 PM
I think the best way they can add offense at this point is upgrades on the back end. Gardiner is separating himself as the best offensive D man on the team; and probably the best overall - and ideally, he's a #3.

Agreed.  At the moment their d is made up of 3 #3's and 3 #7's.  For a rush team... other than gardiner no one can make a stretch pass
So in your opinion neither Carrick or Marincin are top 6 dmen and both should regularly be in the press box?

Frankly yes...in the last year and a half both their former teams gave up on them.  I mean Marincin couldn't crack the Oilers D!!! and was given away, and Carrick was a throw in to get toronto to take Laich.

If the Leafs had better options neither would be getting a sniff,  in my opinion both are fill in guys for injuries on a good team