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Title: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on July 11, 2017, 08:55:56 PM
Just wondering what you guys are doing to get your Leafs fix this summer. To remind myself of this cool group of young guys I've watched again in no particular order:

- Matthews 4-goal debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2v2MCGsRw
- Final five minutes of Playoff Clincher against Pittsburgh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDnKQ0aOOE&t=518s
- Kappy goal in Playoff Game 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHXDCLEJUg
- Bozak goal in Playoff Game 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt0FYE6pukw
- Matthews Centennial Classic O/T Winner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97rhhBxDjcs&t=53s
- All 40 Matthews goals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1iL70b9vyM
- Dangle LFR from Auston's debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIpbZca0pV4
- Home-opener Number Retirement Ceremony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WTu46FUtlE
- Auston Matthews draft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZzi8NXStDs&t=4s
- Centennial Classic Full Overtime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRfd-fnGO4
- Auston Matthews Highlights: "It's My Time".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7tLm7AwIk
- Mitch Marner Highlights: "Playin' on a Prayer".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M61hsK5zNBg
- Mitch Marner Breakaway Goal vs Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va-xcsH5VHs
- William Nylander Hat-trick vs Boston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va-xcsH5VHs
- Nazem Kadri O/T Winner vs Edmonton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnwkP-M7o04
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: hockeyfan1 on July 11, 2017, 11:08:43 PM
I can hardly wait for opening night!  :D
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: princedpw on July 12, 2017, 02:40:52 AM
Just wondering what you guys are doing to get your Leafs fix this summer. To remind myself of this cool group of young guys I've watched again in no particular order:

- Matthews 4-goal debut
- Final five minutes of Playoff Clincher against Pittsburgh.
- Auston Matthews draft.
- Kappy goal in Playoff Game 2.
- Bozak goal in Playoff Game 3.
- All 40 Matthews goals.
- Brown goal against Pittsburgh.
- Matthews Centennial Classic O/T winner.
- Home-opener Number Retirement Ceremony.

This is pretty good:

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/07/10/reliving-first-88-games-auston-matthews-highlights-commentary-analysis/
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Zee on July 12, 2017, 08:42:41 AM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Bullfrog on July 12, 2017, 10:48:14 AM
I spend the off-season the same as I do the regular season: I hit the refresh button on this site every five minutes to see if there's any news.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: princedpw on July 12, 2017, 10:49:21 AM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.

I'm worried this is going to be a problem for me...expectations too high. After all, the leafs only just barely made the playoffs. And that is in a year in which they had ridiculous injury luck. We can hope all the rookies get a notch better but player development trajectories are not always so smooth.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 12, 2017, 10:55:25 AM
I spend the off-season the same as I do the regular season: I hit the refresh button on this site every five minutes to see if there's any news.


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Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Bullfrog on July 12, 2017, 11:06:20 AM
 ;D Nice.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 12, 2017, 12:32:07 PM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.

I'm worried this is going to be a problem for me...expectations too high. After all, the leafs only just barely made the playoffs. And that is in a year in which they had ridiculous injury luck. We can hope all the rookies get a notch better but player development trajectories are not always so smooth.

This is right on the mark, even if it risks buzzkill.  I hope people won't freak out if they regress this year, which is entirely possible.  Esp. on the injury front; we almost certainly won't be as lucky.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on July 12, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.

I'm worried this is going to be a problem for me...expectations too high. After all, the leafs only just barely made the playoffs. And that is in a year in which they had ridiculous injury luck. We can hope all the rookies get a notch better but player development trajectories are not always so smooth.

This is right on the mark, even if it risks buzzkill.  I hope people won't freak out if they regress this year, which is entirely possible.  Esp. on the injury front; we almost certainly won't be as lucky.

I noticed better team defense in the second half, culminating with several 2-1 games against Washington. With so many rookies and a new goalie/system they were very slow out of the gate remember. Sophamore regression/injuries are possible, but also maturity as a young unit growing together and the 19/20-year-olds are getting stronger, not weaker. Miss playoffs/Win Stanley Cup. I don't see either as out of the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Bender on July 12, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.

I'm worried this is going to be a problem for me...expectations too high. After all, the leafs only just barely made the playoffs. And that is in a year in which they had ridiculous injury luck. We can hope all the rookies get a notch better but player development trajectories are not always so smooth.

This is right on the mark, even if it risks buzzkill.  I hope people won't freak out if they regress this year, which is entirely possible.  Esp. on the injury front; we almost certainly won't be as lucky.

I noticed better team defense in the second half, culminating with several 2-1 games against Washington. With so many rookies and a new goalie/system they were very slow out of the gate remember. Sophamore regression/injuries are possible, but also maturity as a young unit growing together and the 19/20-year-olds are getting stronger, not weaker. Miss playoffs/Win Stanley Cup. I don't see either as out of the realm of possibility.
I honestly see missing the playoffs as more unlikely than winning the Cup right now.

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Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Dappleganger on July 12, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
I thought I couldn't be more excited than I was before the start of last season, after seeing what these kids can do, I am so pumped to get the new season going.  Expectations are sky high for me.

I'm worried this is going to be a problem for me...expectations too high. After all, the leafs only just barely made the playoffs. And that is in a year in which they had ridiculous injury luck. We can hope all the rookies get a notch better but player development trajectories are not always so smooth.

This is right on the mark, even if it risks buzzkill.  I hope people won't freak out if they regress this year, which is entirely possible.  Esp. on the injury front; we almost certainly won't be as lucky.

I noticed better team defense in the second half, culminating with several 2-1 games against Washington. With so many rookies and a new goalie/system they were very slow out of the gate remember. Sophamore regression/injuries are possible, but also maturity as a young unit growing together and the 19/20-year-olds are getting stronger, not weaker. Miss playoffs/Win Stanley Cup. I don't see either as out of the realm of possibility.
I honestly see missing the playoffs as more unlikely than winning the Cup right now.

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Eastern Conference finals here we come!

Pretty much where I'm at.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: RedLeaf on July 16, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
Or you can watch the past season game by game...

http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=4105.0
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on July 17, 2017, 03:12:55 AM
Or you can watch the past season game by game...

http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=4105.0

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Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: sickbeast on July 18, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
I spend the off-season the same as I do the regular season: I hit the refresh button on this site every five minutes to see if there's any news.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/47ZAyPTFuJ5-6lW-1IAihRflEQTWN0PO50GDAF9ukzk.jpg?w=494&s=de1b4b244280980fd9c4da8930dd31ae)
Eh are you gonna make some game day threads for the 2017-18 season?  Those were great back in the day.  True classics.  ;D
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on July 18, 2017, 05:45:41 PM
I spend the off-season the same as I do the regular season: I hit the refresh button on this site every five minutes to see if there's any news.

Eh are you gonna make some game day threads for the 2017-18 season?  Those were great back in the day.  True classics.  ;D


Those were the days.  Until Mr. Fancy Pants Carlton The Bear stole my thunder.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on July 18, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: riff raff on July 19, 2017, 09:02:47 PM

Any idea who the other two guys are?

They look like they could be hockey players.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: CarltonTheBear on July 20, 2017, 08:17:18 AM
Any idea who the other two guys are?

They look like they could be hockey players.

Hanifin (born in Boston) and Pastrnak (of course plays for Boston).
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: herman on July 20, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
Any idea who the other two guys are?

They look like they could be hockey players.

Hanifin (born in Boston) and Pastrnak (of course plays for Boston).

Before the trade rumours spin out of control, they're there together in Boston for their equipment sponsor Bauer's promotional event.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: herman on July 20, 2017, 09:48:46 AM
(https://instagram.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/20067205_817645921728848_1631594733572718592_n.jpg) (https://instagram.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/20067205_817645921728848_1631594733572718592_n.jpg)

The aforementioned Bauer camp event featuring Nylander, Patrick Kane, and Patrik Laine, and the new Adidas jerseys on gear.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on July 23, 2017, 11:18:30 AM
As the Blue Jays continue to tank...
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on August 02, 2017, 12:41:07 PM
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It'll totally take the edge off of summer coming to a close :)
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on August 04, 2017, 05:49:06 PM
Babs and Lou and Kyle and Mark.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Bender on August 05, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
If I had to watch a shit load of hockey and evaluate players I think I'd be happy to work non-stop.

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Post by: disco on August 09, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 09, 2017, 05:07:33 PM
Marner be having himself a "Chell" summer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-maple-leafs-mitch-marner-puts-agility-show/
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: herman on August 09, 2017, 06:44:36 PM
Marner be having himself a "Chell" summer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-maple-leafs-mitch-marner-puts-agility-show/

Let's highlight the showstopper:
www.twitter.com/pdwhoa/status/895389063963975686
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: CarltonTheBear on August 10, 2017, 08:17:15 AM
Marner needs to do that in-game with Matthews feeding him the pass. Hyman can be the jumping board.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: hockeyfan1 on August 11, 2017, 01:08:10 AM
Marner be having himself a "Chell" summer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-maple-leafs-mitch-marner-puts-agility-show/

Let's highlight the showstopper:
www.twitter.com/pdwhoa/status/895389063963975686


That is insane alright!
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on August 16, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
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Post by: disco on August 16, 2017, 05:26:32 PM
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Post by: disco on August 19, 2017, 01:40:14 PM
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Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on August 19, 2017, 11:44:40 PM
woahhh-OHH! LIVVVin' onna PRAYer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcJV-NhNcQ
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: hockeyfan1 on August 21, 2017, 02:33:12 AM
Those masked (fighting & stick-swinging) madmen...

Thought I'd put this here because it does contain some Maple Leaf footage (Potvin vs Hextall; Cujo; McDonald vs Smith).  The further back in years one goes, the crazier it all was.

https://youtu.be/lP4ekB0jx5w (https://youtu.be/lP4ekB0jx5w)
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Highlander on August 21, 2017, 03:24:32 PM
As I know it is the dead zone right now thought I would share his one with you. Went to Home Hardware in Thornbury on Sunday, and there in the entrance way was a lovely Muskoka  Chair, nicely constructed and painted Blue. On the seat back was the Maple Leaf Logo, a thing of beauty it was. Looked at the price.  $374.00  For a freeking Muskoka chair?

Even the beautiful Jimmy Buffet Chairs at Cabelo's are around 250.00.  I must be getting old.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: disco on August 22, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
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Post by: disco on August 28, 2017, 11:01:05 AM
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Post by: disco on August 29, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
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Post by: Bullfrog on August 29, 2017, 12:10:03 PM
Oooo. Nice and shiny!
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: nutman on August 29, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
Well that looks like crap. Why are they selling the ice? Adds do not belong on our ice.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Nik the Trik on August 29, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
Well that looks like crap. Why are they selling the ice? Adds do not belong on our ice.

When's the last time you actually looked at the ACC ice?

(http://hockeepuck.goldenim.com/images/me/michigan/leaf15.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: nutman on August 29, 2017, 12:51:50 PM
Well that looks like crap. Why are they selling the ice? Adds do not belong on our ice.

When's the last time you actually looked at the ACC ice?

(http://hockeepuck.goldenim.com/images/me/michigan/leaf15.jpg)


I know there has  been adds. I just hate it, and always hope it wont get worse.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on August 29, 2017, 02:32:22 PM
That's funny, I've gotten so adept at shutting out ads that I didn't even notice there were any these last few years.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: CarltonTheBear on August 29, 2017, 02:45:40 PM
That's funny, I've gotten so adept at shutting out ads that I didn't even notice there were any these last few years.

Seriously. If somebody actually asked me before today if there were ads on the ice at the ACC last season I would have just guessed yes or no. Absolutely zero impact.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Nik the Trik on August 29, 2017, 02:50:36 PM

Speaking of...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/air-canada-centre-changing-name-scotiabank-arena-next-summer/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/air-canada-centre-changing-name-scotiabank-arena-next-summer/)
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: cabber24 on August 29, 2017, 02:51:11 PM
Scotiabank Arena? Meh... I will probably still call it the ACC like I call the "Rogers Centre", Skydome.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Bender on August 29, 2017, 02:52:01 PM
I think it's actually quite tasteful. Have you seen SHL ice??

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Post by: herman on August 29, 2017, 03:06:26 PM
That's funny, I've gotten so adept at shutting out ads that I didn't even notice there were any these last few years.

Seriously. If somebody actually asked me before today if there were ads on the ice at the ACC last season I would have just guessed yes or no. Absolutely zero impact.

Feels really weird to watch games at rinks with naked white boards though.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Arn on August 29, 2017, 07:16:12 PM
You should try watching a game at my home teams arena


Ugh.
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Post by: disco on August 29, 2017, 07:38:43 PM
Invalid Tweet IDWe know #43 is looking forward to camp...
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Post by: hockeyfan1 on August 29, 2017, 09:07:55 PM
Scotiabank Arena? Meh... I will probably still call it the ACC like I call the "Rogers Centre", Skydome.


Bland name.  Should be "Scotiabank Centre" not "Arena".  Sounds better. Still bland in my book.  Corporate named arenas have never sounded good, save for a few.

The ACC, Air Canada Centre, Skydome -- classy sounding.  Rogers Centre not so much either.

Only Madison Square Garden is still staying classy.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on August 30, 2017, 09:47:47 AM
Because we are waiting for preseason.

If the Leafs don't lose Berard to that eye injury, do they win a cup?  Berard was exactly the type of d-man they needed during those years.  A #1 guy that could play at both ends of the ice.  With Sundin at center, and Berard on D, and either Joseph or Belfour in net,  that's a pretty strong core.  Then you surround it with the players that they had and that's a strong team.  I guess the answer to the question depends on how close you think the Leafs were during those years, and whether or not you think they were that one elite d-man away from getting over the hump.   
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Coco-puffs on August 30, 2017, 09:52:33 AM
Scotiabank Arena? Meh... I will probably still call it the ACC like I call the "Rogers Centre", Skydome.


Bland name.  Should be "Scotiabank Centre" not "Arena".  Sounds better. Still bland in my book.  Corporate named arenas have never sounded good, save for a few.

The ACC, Air Canada Centre, Skydome -- classy sounding.  Rogers Centre not so much either.

Only Madison Square Garden is still staying classy.  Sigh.

Scotiabank Centre already exists in Halifax.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Nik the Trik on August 30, 2017, 09:56:44 AM
I think Berard was a pretty good player and if we had possession numbers back then maybe he'd look even better but he was never really a #1 defenseman in any meaningful sense. Could he have been absent the eye injury...maybe? But I think you're remembering him as better on both sides than he really was.

So, no, I don't think he would have been the difference vs. teams like the '02 Red Wings or any of those Devils teams.
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on August 30, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
I think Berard was a pretty good player and if we had possession numbers back then maybe he'd look even better but he was never really a #1 defenseman in any meaningful sense. Could he have been absent the eye injury...maybe? But I think you're remembering him as better on both sides than he really was.

So, no, I don't think he would have been the difference vs. teams like the '02 Red Wings or any of those Devils teams.

Yeah, I thought he had played more than he had in the year that he got injured, but he was averaging 19:34 in ice time, which was actually 5th on the team behind Yushkevich, Kaberle, Karpovtsev, and Markov.  Maybe the bigger hit to the D was Yushkevich.

Hard to say what the Leafs would have done had Berard not been injured, with respect to acquiring Bryan McCabe, but if they had been able to go with a defense group of Yushkevich, McCabe, Kaberle, Markov, and Berard, that is a really strong group in my opinion.  In 2002, the group they ran with was McCabe, Kaberle, Yushkevich (year he gets the blood clot diagnosis), Lumme, Berg, Cross.  In that year Anders Ericksson, Karel Pilar, and Wade Belak also see time on defence.  I'd take the 5 that were listed above over that lot.

In 2003 it's Kaberle, Svehla, McCabe, Lumme, Berg, with smatterings of Belak, Ric Jackman, and Pilar.  Glen Wesley was acquired at the deadline.  Maybe it's rose coloured glasses filter thing, but I still think I take  Yushkevich, McCabe, Kaberle, Markov, and Berard over that group. 

In 2004 it's McCabe, Kaberle, Ken Klee, Berg, Bryan Marchement,  as the main contributors.  Pilar, Jackman and Belak also saw time.  The playoffs were a little different this year as they had acquired Leetch and Housley for the run, so they could actually trot out McCabe, Kaberle, Klee, Berg, Marchement, Leetch and Housley.  Still though, I kinda like that other 5. 

Anywas, I guess losing Berard wasn't that big of a hit.  Maybe it was all the churn.  The trading of Markov, and the loss of Yushkevich also wasn't great.  My feeling about those years is that the team had a group of forwards that could compete, and they had the goalies to get it done, but they defence just wasn't up to snuff. 
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: Nik the Trik on August 30, 2017, 10:44:42 AM
Anywas, I guess losing Berard wasn't that big of a hit.  Maybe it was all the churn.  The trading of Markov, and the loss of Yushkevich also wasn't great.  My feeling about those years is that the team had a group of forwards that could compete, and they had the goalies to get it done, but they defence just wasn't up to snuff.

No, I think that's fair. I think the team needed two things to really take the step forward in those years. One being a legit #1 type Norris-y defenseman, the other being an All-Star level #2 C behind Sundin. With both of those I think they're real contenders.

Over at Yahoo they're doing off-season "What If?" scenarios for all of the teams and the one they did for the Leafs is not making the Kurvers trade and whether or not having Scott Niedermayer would have been the difference between a Cup and no Cup. Even then though I'm pretty skeptical.
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Post by: Significantly Insignificant on August 30, 2017, 11:00:15 AM
No, I think that's fair. I think the team needed two things to really take the step forward in those years. One being a legit #1 type Norris-y defenseman, the other being an All-Star level #2 C behind Sundin. With both of those I think they're real contenders.

I remember in one of your posts talking about the Leafs almost acquiring Lecavalier back in the Sundin hay days.  That would have been interesting.  One of the pieces that was a part of that was Kaberle, so it's hard to say what they overall impact is there.  I think the deal sets them up better long term over the next decade from that point, but they would still have the problem on defence, and they would need a way to get over that.  Still with Sundin as #1, and Lecavalier as #2, you could probably go a defence by committee route and possibly get to cup final.   

Over at Yahoo they're doing off-season "What If?" scenarios for all of the teams and the one they did for the Leafs is not making the Kurvers trade and whether or not having Scott Niedermayer would have been the difference between a Cup and no Cup. Even then though I'm pretty skeptical.

I agree that Niedermayer wasn't the difference between them winning a cup and not winning a cup back then.  The Gilmour teams had a really good defence.  There were cases being made by people that it was the best group of 6 in the league.  Their goalie was top flight.  To me the problem with those Gilmour teams was that they just didn't have enough scoring depth past Gilmour, Andreychuk and Clark.

Now if you add Neidermayer to the Sundin teams.  Maybe, but yeah, they still might not have enough to compete for the cup.  However, it does weaken the Devils, so that road block potentially gets removed.  Hard to say to what the impact would have been. 
Title: Re: Is it Preseason yet...
Post by: nutman on August 30, 2017, 01:37:57 PM
Scotiabank Arena? Meh... I will probably still call it the ACC like I call the "Rogers Centre", Skydome.



Me as well....
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Post by: disco on August 30, 2017, 05:59:38 PM
Invalid Tweet IDLess than three weeks lads...
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Post by: disco on September 08, 2017, 07:20:25 PM
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Post by: Frank E on September 08, 2017, 07:25:45 PM
Liljegren burned on that goal.
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Post by: disco on September 13, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
Clips with Joe Bowen. So freakin' excited.
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Post by: nutman on September 13, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
Joe Bowen..... The best.. He makes the game ten times better to watch.
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Post by: disco on September 16, 2017, 04:19:37 PM
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