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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Today at 08:10:32 AM »
To be clear, outside of the fact that I think they need to add some players down the middle, I don't dislike the pick.

I think this too, and Iím warming up to the pick more and more. He does seem to play exactly the way I want our defense to play.

I donít think any of the centres in this crop (at least rated to go in the first round) were particularly exciting though.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Today at 08:05:12 AM »
I think to Nikís disappointment here, Dubas (and scouts) have said they believe Sandin is an impact player with a huge runway for growth with his already mature defensive instincts and offensive support game.

Thereís obviously a lot of shiny new toy honeymooning over our latest pick, but a lot of positive feedback on Sandin came ahead of the draft, with prognosticators thinking he would be ranked a bit artificially low due to a rough ending to the SSM playoff run, and the supposed red flag of bouncing from team to team in Sweden. A relatively large portion of the 31 Thoughts pre-draft podcast was devoted to him.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/6/23/17495302/toronto-maple-leafs-rasmus-sandin-2018-nhl-draft-first-round-kyle-dubas-sault-ste-marie-greyhounds

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Today at 07:56:02 AM »
Burtch is selling (some of) Leafs Twitter on Sandin.


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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:40:26 PM »
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/06/23/rasmus-sandin-drafted-29th-overall-by-the-toronto-maple-leafs/

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The Leafs GM tipped his hand on this pick last week on the air with Jamies Duthie on TSN, saying of Craig Buttonís projected pick of Sandin for the Leafs, ďHe plays defense the way I like it to be played Ė very, very good with the puck, skates very well. In the playoffs for the Soo, he took his game physically to another level and showed a great level of competitiveness in addition to his skillset. If Craig were the GM of the Leafs and he made that pick, itíd be a good pick.Ē

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/06/08/canucksarmys-2018-nhl-draft-profiles-30-rasmus-sandin/


Better than Tim Gleason, wooooo!!!

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:22:15 PM »

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:16:37 PM »
Good report on Sandin here: https://www.milehighhockey.com/2018/5/7/17324330/2018-nhl-draft-prospect-profile-rasmus-sandin-scouting-report

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Smart is the first thing youíll hear when talking about Sandin. Any disadvantage caused by his lack of size or speed, is overcome because of how well he thinks the game. He has great gap control in his own end and is really good at funneling attackers away from dangerous spots on the ice. His defensive zone position is some of the best youíll see in the CHL and he anticipates plays well to cut down passing and shooting lanes.

Sandin has excellent puck retrieval and is very smooth with his transition from defense to the breakout. Heís calm with the puck and wonít rush to make a quick pass just to get the puck out of his zone - he makes the right pass. He stretches the ice extremely well and is able to lead his teammates through the neutral zone with an accurate outlet pass. When he does skate the puck out of his own end, he will often slow down the pace, waiting for the breakout to develop around him.

From an offensive perspective, Sandin doesnít have a big slap shot from the point. He will use a strong and low wrister or snapshot, erring on the side of accuracy over power. He knows when to creep in from the blue line, giving his teammates an extra option inside the faceoff circle. His great vision and strong passing skills allow Sandin to quarterback the powerplay when needed.

He finished third among draft eligible OHL defenders with 45 points in 51 games and trailed only Evan Bouchard with 0.24 goals per game. During even strength play, Sandin had more points per game than elite offensive defenseman Ryan Merkely and finished tied with Merkley for 5v5 best goal production among defenders.

If he can follow Dermott's path and improve his skating this could really be a home run of a pick.

 8) granted Sandin had much better teammates than Merkley.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:13:10 PM »
Hands up if you heard of Joseph Veleno before the 15th pick today...

I don't know what this would say about someone. I didn't know much about him but that's only because I wasn't really looking into prospects lately expected to go 10-15 or so.

I think it says they have a life, at the very least. I glossed over him much like you did.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:08:26 PM »
Hands up if you heard of Joseph Veleno before the 15th pick today...

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:59:55 PM »
https://theathletic.com/401472/2018/06/22/pronman-pick-by-pick-breakdown-of-the-nhl-draft-first-round/

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29. Toronto Maple Leafs: Rasmus Sandin
(pick acquired from Blues)

D, Sault Ste. Marie-OHL

March 7, 2000 | 5-foot-11 | 184 pounds

Sandinís best trait is his hockey sense. Heís a very smart puck-moving defenseman. He can see the ice at a high level on outlets but also up on the attack, hitting tight seams and creating chances with his passes, which occasionally rise to the level of remarkable. His skating is decent, but he lacks an explosive gear, especially for a smaller defender. Despite average speed and just fine hands, he is still quite elusive with the puck and is able to spin off pressure fine. Sandin is small, but heís a tough competitor and heís solid defensively despite his size, with fine gap control, and wins his fair share of battles.

Pronmanís take: Sandin kept growing on me as the season went along and was very good for a top CHL team in the Greyhounds. Iím not super sold on the speed/skills, but I know some scouts who are. His hockey sense is high-end, as is his work ethic. Heís a leader and a very solid two-way defenseman. He becomes one of the Leafs top prospects but is behind Timothy Liljegren in terms of defensemen.

30. Detroit Red Wings: Joseph Veleno
Center, Drummondville-QMJHL

Jan. 13, 2000 | 6-foot-1 | 193 pounds

Veleno is an excellent skater and he gets up to top speed quite easily with a powerful stride. Veleno works hard and plays a powerful style on the puck without taking many bad penalties. I donít think heís a dynamic playmaker, but heís certainly above-average with the puck and can flash a tier higher. I like his puck skills, heís a very smart player and he can consistently make above-average plays. While his shot/finishing ability is a bit worrying, Veleno has the speed, skills, smarts and physicality to be a very good playmaker and zone entry artist as an NHLer, combined with being a reliable two-way center.

Pronmanís take: Veleno fell because scouts in the industry donít believe in his skill level. I donít think he has high-end skill, but I believe he has offense to him and can make plays. For me, this was very good value for the Wings. Heís in the same category of prospect as Michael Rasmussen, who they picked in the top 10 last year.



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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:54:49 PM »
Of course Washington picks a Russian player  ;)

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:46:58 PM »
Looks like theyíll keep him in the Soo.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:44:20 PM »
I think Sandin is a loan to the OHL too, so we might be able to AHL right away (other than his strength issues).

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:42:17 PM »

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:40:35 PM »
Always fly check before getting on stage.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2018 Draft Thread
« on: Yesterday at 10:37:14 PM »
Heeeey Veleno/Sandin/Berggren/Thomas

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