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Offline CarltonTheBear

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This is an interesting match-up. It's the top-2 centres in hockey right now versus the best top-4 defence in hockey. But it's also arguably the worst defence among all playoff teams vs. the worst centre depth among playoff teams (due to injuries in both cases).

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Monday, May 29, 8 p.m. ET: Predators at Penguins | NBC, CBC, Sportsnet
Wednesday, May 31, 8 p.m.: Predators at Penguins | NBCSN, CBC, Sportsnet
Saturday, June 3, 8 p.m.: Penguins at Predators | NBCSN, CBC, Sportsnet
Monday, June 5, 8 p.m.: Penguins at Predators | NBC, CBC, Sportsnet
*Thursday, June 8, 8 p.m.: Predators at Penguins | NBC, CBC, Sportsnet
*Sunday, June 11, 8 p.m.: Penguins at Predators | NBC, CBC, Sportsnet
*Wednesday, June 14, 8 p.m.: Predators at Penguins | NBC, CBC, Sportsnet

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2017, 10:29:40 AM »

So is there even really a "Old guy without a cup" to root for? I mean, Fisher I guess? Because I sure would like him to finally catch a break in life.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2017, 10:30:50 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing Nashville win this thing, although I don't really care about the outcome.  The only reason I say Nashville is to hear all those people in Montreal ripping the PK - Weber trade all over again.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2017, 10:37:52 AM »

So is there even really a "Old guy without a cup" to root for? I mean, Fisher I guess? Because I sure would like him to finally catch a break in life.

Ron Hainsey? Mark Streit's an older candidate if he actually gets into games.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2017, 10:39:01 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing Nashville win this thing, although I don't really care about the outcome.  The only reason I say Nashville is to hear all those people in Montreal ripping the PK - Weber trade all over again.

Yeah I'd love to see PK win it. But Phil being a 2-time Stanley Cup Champion and Evgeni "not a top-100 player" Malkin matching Toews in rings would be nice too. Especially if Malkin gets his 2nd Conn Smythe.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 10:43:02 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing Nashville win this thing, although I don't really care about the outcome.  The only reason I say Nashville is to hear all those people in Montreal ripping the PK - Weber trade all over again.

Yeah I'd love to see PK win it. But Phil being a 2-time Stanley Cup Champion and Evgeni "not a top-100 player" Malkin matching Toews in rings would be nice too. Especially if Malkin gets his 2nd Conn Smythe.

That's an interesting one. Obviously Sid/Malkin are the CS frontrunners for the Pens but the Preds? Rinne, I suppose, and maybe Forsberg? They've sort of done it really collectively.

edit: Also, I thought Kane's inclusion on the top 100 list was more questionable vs. Malkin but there you go. Either way, what a bogus list.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 10:50:34 AM »
That's an interesting one. Obviously Sid/Malkin are the CS frontrunners for the Pens but the Preds? Rinne, I suppose, and maybe Forsberg? They've sort of done it really collectively.

Rinne's currently 12-4 with a .941 Sv% and 1.70 GAA. Like you said their defence collectively deserves a ton of credit for that but if those numbers hold at all he's definitely their candidate.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 11:32:30 AM »
That's an interesting one. Obviously Sid/Malkin are the CS frontrunners for the Pens but the Preds? Rinne, I suppose, and maybe Forsberg? They've sort of done it really collectively.

Rinne's currently 12-4 with a .941 Sv% and 1.70 GAA. Like you said their defence collectively deserves a ton of credit for that but if those numbers hold at all he's definitely their candidate.

Yeah, I guess my thing with Rinne(and I will flat-out state I haven't seen all, most or even a significant chunk of their games) is that he's never really had one of those eyepopping numbers games. He's faced 25 or fewer saves 4 times, 30 or fewer 7 and made 35 saves once. This might be a situation where SV% in a small sample is a little misleading.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 11:47:26 AM »
A side of this matchup that I don't think has sufficiently been appreciated is that it's a epic battle between Long Narrow(ish) States.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2017, 11:56:55 AM »
A side of this matchup that I don't think has sufficiently been appreciated is that it's a epic battle between Long Narrow(ish) States.

That prompted me to look up when's the last time the Cup was contested between two cities as close together as these two and although the answer was a little disappointing 10 Nik points to whoever can tell me the closest two cities playing for the Cup can be in the modern NHL.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2017, 12:00:59 PM »
That prompted me to look up when's the last time the Cup was contested between two cities as close together as these two and although the answer was a little disappointing 10 Nik points to whoever can tell me the closest two cities playing for the Cup can be in the modern NHL.

Chicago vs. Philly would be my guess.

Detroit when they were in the West would be another team likely to be half of that. Detroit vs. Carolina or New Jersey.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2017, 12:04:39 PM »
That prompted me to look up when's the last time the Cup was contested between two cities as close together as these two and although the answer was a little disappointing 10 Nik points to whoever can tell me the closest two cities playing for the Cup can be in the modern NHL.

Chicago vs. Philly would be my guess.

Nah. Philly's at the Eastern end of Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh's much closer. Not Pittsburgh/Chicago though.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2017, 12:06:30 PM »
Nah. Philly's at the Eastern end of Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh's much closer. Not Pittsburgh/Chicago though.

I was going to say Pittsburgh/Chicago too but didn't think they had played each other. Checking further that happened in the 90s.

Detroit vs. whoever is closer between New Jersey and Carolina then (I think Jersey would be closer)?
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 12:07:59 PM »
Yeah, I guess my thing with Rinne(and I will flat-out state I haven't seen all, most or even a significant chunk of their games) is that he's never really had one of those eyepopping numbers games. He's faced 25 or fewer saves 4 times, 30 or fewer 7 and made 35 saves once. This might be a situation where SV% in a small sample is a little misleading.

Congratulations, you've officially put more thought into the Conn Smythe trophy winner than most voters likely do.

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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2017, 12:11:32 PM »
That prompted me to look up when's the last time the Cup was contested between two cities as close together as these two and although the answer was a little disappointing 10 Nik points to whoever can tell me the closest two cities playing for the Cup can be in the modern NHL.

Chicago vs Detroit is the closest possibility with the current alignment. Pittsburgh vs Detroit woudl be the closest in recent history.
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Re: Stanley Cup Final: Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Nashville Predators
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