Author Topic: Eric Staal in play?  (Read 6515 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Global Moderator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 18828
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2014, 08:15:09 PM »

I think right now the big question mark would be the extent to which Carolina would want to trade Staal. Spezza, as has been pointed out, wanted to be traded. That played a role in what he was dealt for.

But that's not to say that Staal's value would be higher. If Carolina really wanted to shake things up and were fairly confident that they would lose Staal as a free agent in a couple of years and really wanted to rebuild then there wouldn't be much of a difference between him and Spezza in that regard.

If, however, Carolina thought they could re-sign Staal and really would only trade him if they got an offer they couldn't refuse...well, that's where I go back to a hockey deal not really making sense.

You have to wonder if Staal just says no to a trade too. I mean, he got his little brother to pretty much force a trade out of an Eastern Conference Stanley Cup contender so they could play on the same team, then Jordan signed a 10-year deal with Carolina so they could theoretically play together for the rest of their careers. Then Eric just up and leaves?

Online Bullfrog

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4110
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2014, 08:29:39 PM »
I think that's a good point CtB. They're very close. All three NHL brothers have their houses next to each other!

Offline Nik the Trik

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 21838
  • Some Guy On a Message Board
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2014, 08:59:05 PM »
How much of the trade value is the market? Maybe no other teams were interested in Spezza, or they were offering less than Dallas.

Well, we know that other teams were interested as it was pretty widely reported that he turned down a trade to Nashville. Likewise it was reported that St. Louis and Anaheim were interested before they moved towards Kesler and Stastny. Really, it doesn't make sense for a player of Spezza's calibre to not have interest.

But as for no other team offering more...well, yeah. That's what set his price. That none of the other teams Spezza was open to be traded to would offer more is the central issue.

One year later, a similar player may go for more, or less, simply because there are two teams that want the player enough to get into a bidding war, and happen to be willing to spend more assets.

Maybe, but the whole Spezza/Staal comparison grew out of saying that Carolina wouldn't really be in a position to ask for more than what Ottawa got based on the two player's respective values. That doesn't preclude a bidding war, true, but if someone is willing to pay significantly above market for Staal...let them.
Give a man the reputation of an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon
-Mark Twain

Offline Nik the Trik

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 21838
  • Some Guy On a Message Board
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2014, 09:01:59 PM »
You have to wonder if Staal just says no to a trade too. I mean, he got his little brother to pretty much force a trade out of an Eastern Conference Stanley Cup contender so they could play on the same team, then Jordan signed a 10-year deal with Carolina so they could theoretically play together for the rest of their careers. Then Eric just up and leaves?

Well, yeah, but that's why I think how the Canes feel about Staal going forward is the key factor here. Jim Rutherford might have been gung ho about going forward with Eric and that might have been leveraged into trading for Jordan but if the new GM makes it clear to Staal that they'd rather move on without him and he shouldn't expect a big extension offer next year? Strikes me as unlikely that Staal would stick around to milk 120 or so games out of playing with his brother in that situation.
Give a man the reputation of an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon
-Mark Twain

Offline azzurri63

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 1997
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2014, 11:18:31 AM »

Offline Highlander

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4289
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2014, 11:11:33 AM »
I think this trade rumour has staaled.
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children"
                                           Navaho Proverb

TMLfans.ca

Re: Eric Staal in play?
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2014, 11:11:33 AM »