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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2017, 09:49:59 PM »
We didn't deserve to win, sure, but we should have been able to get that game to overtime. Hunlack on the ice for both Flyers goals tonight.
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Maybe if the veterans of the team like Matthews, Marner, Zaitsev, Hyman and Brown did something we wouldn't be relying on rookies like Hunwick to not play the puck like a hand grenade.

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #76 on: January 27, 2017, 01:19:41 AM »
We didn't deserve to win, sure, but we should have been able to get that game to overtime. Hunlack on the ice for both Flyers goals tonight.

I really hope they bench Polak when Mo gets back.

Marty has been solid with Zaitsev who looks more adventurous in the attack with Marincin.

people complain about Polak/hunwick all the time....but Toronto has the #1 penalty kill in the league.  Who are the 2 tops penalty killers on d?  Polak....and hunwick
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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2017, 08:48:01 AM »
We didn't deserve to win, sure, but we should have been able to get that game to overtime. Hunlack on the ice for both Flyers goals tonight.

I really hope they bench Polak when Mo gets back.

Marty has been solid with Zaitsev who looks more adventurous in the attack with Marincin.

people complain about Polak/hunwick all the time....but Toronto has the #1 penalty kill in the league.  Who are the 2 tops penalty killers on d?  Polak....and hunwick

They play more minutes during the game at even strength than they do shorthanded.   What good does having a great shorthanded record do for you when the same 2 guys are on the ice for even strength goals against time and again?

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2017, 08:49:56 AM »
They play more minutes during the game at even strength than they do shorthanded.   What good does having a great shorthanded record do for you when the same 2 guys are on the ice for even strength goals against time and again?

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2017, 08:58:37 AM »
They play more minutes during the game at even strength than they do shorthanded.   What good does having a great shorthanded record do for you when the same 2 guys are on the ice for even strength goals against time and again?

You have warmed the cockles of my heart, Zee.

Let's go to the charts.   Higher on each line is better.  Note Jake Gardiner is far superior to both Hunwick and Polak.

These rankings / stats only consider even strength time:





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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2017, 09:00:45 AM »
I love that Polak basically doesn't even quite rank as a bottom pairing defenceman on the right half of the chart.
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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2017, 09:11:37 AM »
I missed the Calgary and Detroit games for the most part so I was surprised to see that Gardiner's minutes went back to his pre-Reilly injury times lately. He averaged 26 minutes in the first 3 games Rielly missed but only 20 minutes in the next 3. Last nights game saw Zaitsev play 4 more minute than Jake.

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2017, 09:14:31 AM »
They play more minutes during the game at even strength than they do shorthanded.   What good does having a great shorthanded record do for you when the same 2 guys are on the ice for even strength goals against time and again?

You have warmed the cockles of my heart, Zee.

Let's go to the charts.   Higher on each line is better.  Note Jake Gardiner is far superior to both Hunwick and Polak.

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2017, 10:41:54 AM »
We didn't deserve to win, sure, but we should have been able to get that game to overtime. Hunlack on the ice for both Flyers goals tonight.

I really hope they bench Polak when Mo gets back.

Marty has been solid with Zaitsev who looks more adventurous in the attack with Marincin.

people complain about Polak/hunwick all the time....but Toronto has the #1 penalty kill in the league.  Who are the 2 tops penalty killers on d?  Polak....and hunwick

People complain of their ability to play the game when not playing a relatively stationary 4on5 game.  Their mobility sucks.  Their ability to advance the puck mirrors my own play style.  Their ability to suppress shots is Terribad.



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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2017, 11:01:18 AM »
I only got to see the third period, which was bad. Worse is the commentary I heard when after turning to the game:

Millen (I think it was Millen): "Kadri's been very good this year, but what will really make him a great checking centre is if he can be better on faceoffs. He's only 30% on draws tonight. If he's not going to win them, he should at least try to tie them."

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2017, 11:05:27 AM »
We didn't deserve to win, sure, but we should have been able to get that game to overtime. Hunlack on the ice for both Flyers goals tonight.

I really hope they bench Polak when Mo gets back.

Marty has been solid with Zaitsev who looks more adventurous in the attack with Marincin.

people complain about Polak/hunwick all the time....but Toronto has the #1 penalty kill in the league.  Who are the 2 tops penalty killers on d?  Polak....and hunwick

People complain of their ability to play the game when not playing a relatively stationary 4on5 game.  Their mobility sucks.  Their ability to advance the puck mirrors my own play style.  Their ability to suppress shots is Terribad.

The funny thing is, Babcock probably knows this, and trots them out with Matthews line more often than not.  I guess he figures Matthews will pump them up since he drives offense, but man, those two guys sure don't help Auston out when generating any sort of scoring chances.  They need to be jettisoned off to Robidas Island.

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2017, 11:23:10 AM »
Y'all know where I stand on Hunlak.

However, I'm more okay now with keeping them here until the deadline (Hunlak package deal!). A lot of that has to do with something Jack Han said on the PPP Podcast earlier this week. When you make a tea, you drop in the tea bag or leaves, let it steep, and then throw out the tea bag/leaves. It's sort of the same thing with setting up a long-term hockey program. Hunwick and Polak provide something beyond their occasional/regular ineptitude on the ice that cannot be measured (and therefore cannot be evaluated from afar).

Rielly/Zaitsev have been getting the 'tough' match up minutes, but Hunlak eat up the rest of the garbage minutes to let Carrick grow. Hunlak are stapled to Matthews' line because he can handle it (it's like weight training, dragging those two around). They play an inherently simple game, and for all Matthews does with the puck that drops our jaws, he actually plays a very simple macro-game too. All he needs from the backend are pinball bumpers and space makers. And Matthews' line already bust their humps to backcheck anyway, so the damage is usually mitigated.

When the talent below develops and bubbles up through the lineup, it'll get way more fun. Right now, it's still building up the basics. I wish Corrado and Marincin were the bottom pairing, but I can see what Babcock is trying to do here.

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Re: Leafs @ Flyers - Jan. 26th, 7:00pm - SNO, Fan 590
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2017, 11:23:10 AM »